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Posted: 3/1/2023 12:13:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I would disagree that I’ve derailed this thread since my return. Don’t you have a Rebel to shit on? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: It is the off-season. Two or three pages of you two bickering back and forth should be able to get us to the draft. Please. There’s plenty of time for him to bait other people into dumb debates. Funny how in the past half decade the only 3+ month long period we've had in-season in which the NFL thread had no shit shows or thread-derailing heated arguments was during the months you were banned. Just a coincidence, I'm sure.  That’s a bizarrely specific stat. Almost like you keep records about us to call up at a moment’s notice. Nah that’s definitely not the case. You get banned for 3 (or whatever) months and there wasn't so much as a heated argument in the NFL thread (during the season no less). Then you return from your ban and the thread derailing shit shows magically start back. It wasn't subtle. I would disagree that I’ve derailed this thread since my return. Don’t you have a Rebel to shit on? Yup. Its clearly all just one big coincidence that the only time the NFL thread was free from thread derailing shitshows in-season was the 3 months you were banned and it started back when you returned. It definitely had nothing to do with you. 
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Posted: 3/1/2023 12:15:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Derrick Henry peaked in the 2020 season. He's dropped from 5.4 YPC to 4.4 YPC. I don't have a RYOE chart handy, but for most of the season, he wasn't exactly awesome by that metric, either. He just had 350 carries because that's how the Titans do things. I wouldn't expect Henry to maintain even his current level of performance for much longer. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I'm not sure "still only 28" applies to RBs. Derrick Henry enters the chat Derrick Henry peaked in the 2020 season. He's dropped from 5.4 YPC to 4.4 YPC. I don't have a RYOE chart handy, but for most of the season, he wasn't exactly awesome by that metric, either. He just had 350 carries because that's how the Titans do things. I wouldn't expect Henry to maintain even his current level of performance for much longer. In the past two seasons has there been a RB more overrated and overhyped than Henry? Hell, even with Zeke dropping off a cliff and Henry getting 87 carries a game Henry is only averaging 1.5 more yards per game than Zeke. |
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Posted: 3/1/2023 3:08:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In the past two seasons has there been a RB more overrated and overhyped than Henry? Hell, even with Zeke dropping off a cliff and Henry getting 87 carries a game Henry is only averaging 1.5 more yards per game than Zeke. I don't know if Henry's been overrated or overhyped. I know he was hurt half of 2021 and still had almost 1000 yards with ten tds. last season Henry had 1500 yards with 13 tds, almost 400 yards receiving, too. imho that's really good for a rb. zeke had just under 900 yards with 12 tds and just under 100 receiving. I know zeke split a lot of time with pollard, too. |
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Posted: 3/1/2023 9:43:45 AM EDT
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Posted: 3/1/2023 11:20:49 AM EDT
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 Pick #1 is worth $41M. Pick #5 is worth $34M. Oops. |
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Posted: 3/1/2023 11:36:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FqJK_o6WcAAr9e-?format=jpg&name=medium Pick #1 is worth $41M. Pick #5 is worth $34M. Oops. Agents should probably lock them up in 10x6 cells when they’re not under direct supervision. |
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Posted: 3/1/2023 11:49:09 AM EDT
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FqJK_o6WcAAr9e-?format=jpg&name=medium Pick #1 is worth $41M. Pick #5 is worth $34M. Oops. Carter made it worse for himself by lying about the incident right after it happened. He said he wasn't there initially but was implicated by some of the others involved and finally fessed up. Doubt he will suffer from it much though. |
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Posted: 3/1/2023 12:08:13 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/1/2023 12:30:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FqJK_o6WcAAr9e-?format=jpg&name=medium Pick #1 is worth $41M. Pick #5 is worth $34M. Oops. Well he's screwed. If I'm a team owner I'm looking at alternatives to him. Kind of hard to waste a pick on a guy that may very well be going to prison and getting sued for everything. |
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Posted: 3/1/2023 12:50:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well he's screwed. If I'm a team owner I'm looking at alternatives to him. Kind of hard to waste a pick on a guy that may very well be going to prison and getting sued for everything. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FqJK_o6WcAAr9e-?format=jpg&name=medium Pick #1 is worth $41M. Pick #5 is worth $34M. Oops. Well he's screwed. If I'm a team owner I'm looking at alternatives to him. Kind of hard to waste a pick on a guy that may very well be going to prison and getting sued for everything.
Doesn't look like he's going to pay much of a price for this one. But, if I'm a GM, I have to wonder if this guy is on the Henry Ruggs path. |
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Posted: 3/1/2023 1:08:40 PM EDT
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If you're an undersized QB, maybe don't show up to the combine with a TE at your side. 
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Posted: 3/1/2023 1:30:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
If you're an undersized QB, maybe don't show up to the combine with a TE at your side. He needs some elevator shoes, or stilts. |
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Posted: 3/1/2023 2:18:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FqJK_o6WcAAr9e-?format=jpg&name=medium Pick #1 is worth $41M. Pick #5 is worth $34M. Oops. Oops is right...who the fuck thinks they can beat a Trackhawk with an Expedition 
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Posted: 3/1/2023 2:25:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He needs some elevator shoes, or stilts. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted:
If you're an undersized QB, maybe don't show up to the combine with a TE at your side. He needs some elevator shoes, or stilts. If the 49'ers really are looking at all options...   Attached File |
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Posted: 3/1/2023 2:56:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well he's screwed. If I'm a team owner I'm looking at alternatives to him. Kind of hard to waste a pick on a guy that may very well be going to prison and getting sued for everything. You mean sorta like Cleveland did? Except a rookie contract is no where near what Watson is getting. You can bet some team will pick him up especially if he drops a round or two. |
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Posted: 3/1/2023 3:52:00 PM EDT
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how much $ did Carter earn for his NIL?
trackhawk is a 100k+ vehicle. |
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Posted: 3/1/2023 4:07:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: how much $ did Carter earn for his NIL? trackhawk is a 100k+ vehicle. I think the decedents were in the trackhawk and Carter was in the 2021 expedition. Must be making some decent coin regardless. |
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Posted: 3/1/2023 4:15:21 PM EDT
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From the NFLPA team "report cards" which were based on 1,300 players being surveyed on multiple topics:
Arizona Cardinals owner Michael Bidwill ranks last among players as far as team confidence in ownership to invest in the team. The Cardinals have the worst ranked weight room in the NFL (which some players consider a safety hazard), an outdated training room and locker room, and a team policy where meals are deducted from player's paychecks should the players want food from the team facility.  They are the ONLY team in the NFL that charges their own players for food. |
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Posted: 3/1/2023 4:26:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: From the NFLPA team "report cards" which were based on 1,300 players being surveyed on multiple topics: Arizona Cardinals owner Michael Bidwill ranks last among players as far as team confidence in ownership to invest in the team. The Cardinals have the worst ranked weight room in the NFL (which some players consider a safety hazard), an outdated training room and locker room, and a team policy where meals are deducted from player's paychecks should the players want food from the team facility. They are the ONLY team in the NFL that charges their own players for food. I've been reading through these. There's a lot to take in. There's weird stuff like that, there are obvious trends like older facilities being a complaint, and then there are odd things like some teams make players have roommates when traveling while others don't. Another complaint is that teams that charter normal commercial planes don't have enough first class seats. A shocker is that the Chiefs somehow have the worst rank for training staff despite being one of the most consistently healthy teams. Teams are out there blowing up ACLs left and right and puncturing lungs, but they have better grades than the Chiefs. 
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Posted: 3/1/2023 4:26:25 PM EDT
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when does the official switch over to NFL 2023 thread happen? Most all NFL talk is for the 2023 season now.
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Posted: 3/1/2023 4:26:44 PM EDT
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Here is a link to the NFLPA full report cards for every team.
https://nflpa.com/nfl-player-team-report-cards The Minnesota Vikings are the only team to have an A rank in every category. |
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Posted: 3/1/2023 4:27:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: when does the official switch over to NFL 2023 thread happen? Most all NFL talk is for the 2023 season now. |
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Posted: 3/1/2023 4:28:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: when does the official switch over to NFL 2023 thread happen? Most all NFL talk is for the 2023 season now. We usually do it on the first day of the new season. I think that's March 15th this year. |
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Posted: 3/1/2023 4:29:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Typically we start a new thread on the first day of the new league year. That is March 15th this year. gotcha thanks |
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Posted: 3/1/2023 4:31:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I've been reading through these. There's a lot to take in. You would think you would want your 225 million dollar roster to be maximizing their nutrition and weight goals. The best way to do that is just to fucking feed them yourself. Don't trust that 21 year old millionaire to handle his diet on his own. Don't want that Eddie Lacy problem. What a cheapskate fucking problem to have in the NFL. Especially considering fucking revenue sharing. Edit: Overall Cardinals rankings: Treatment of Families: F, tied for last place Food Service/Nutrution: F-, tied for last place Weight Room: F-, last place Strength Coaches: A, tied for 17th Training Room: F-, tied for last place Training Staff: B+, tied for 22nd Locker Room: F, 31st place Team Travel: B+, tied for 12th The only thing they did OKAY in (12th to 22nd) is staff and travel. Everything else was last, or next to last. |
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Posted: 3/1/2023 4:35:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The idea that the Cardinals charge their players for food is just hard for me to even fathom. You would think you would want your 225 million dollar roster to be maximizing their nutrition and weight goals. The best way to do that is just to fucking feed them yourself. Don't trust that 21 year old millionaire to handle his diet on his own. Don't want that Eddie Lacy problem. What a cheapskate fucking problem to have in the NFL. Especially considering fucking revenue sharing. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I've been reading through these. There's a lot to take in. You would think you would want your 225 million dollar roster to be maximizing their nutrition and weight goals. The best way to do that is just to fucking feed them yourself. Don't trust that 21 year old millionaire to handle his diet on his own. Don't want that Eddie Lacy problem. What a cheapskate fucking problem to have in the NFL. Especially considering fucking revenue sharing. And then there's this:  |
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Posted: 3/1/2023 4:49:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: when does the official switch over to NFL 2023 thread happen? Most all NFL talk is for the 2023 season now. Welcome lurker! Please feel free to join in.  
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Posted: 3/1/2023 4:52:42 PM EDT
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Team report cards. For those to lazy to follow the links, just click the spoiler under your team.
Top 3 teams: Vikings, Dolphins, Raiders Last place team: Washington Arizona Cardinals: Click To View Spoiler Atlanta Falcons: Click To View Spoiler Baltimore Ravens: Click To View Spoiler Buffalo Bills: Click To View Spoiler Carolina Panthers: Click To View Spoiler Chicago Bears: Click To View Spoiler Cincinnati Bengals: Click To View Spoiler Cleveland Browns: Click To View Spoiler Dallas Cowboys: Click To View Spoiler Denver Broncos: Click To View Spoiler Detroit Lions: Click To View Spoiler Green Bay Packers: Click To View Spoiler Houston Texans: Click To View Spoiler Indianapolis Colts: Click To View Spoiler Jacksonville Jaguars: Click To View Spoiler Kansas City Chiefs: Click To View Spoiler Las Vegas Raiders: Click To View Spoiler Los Angeles Chargers: Click To View Spoiler Los Angeles Rams: Click To View Spoiler Miami Dolphins: Click To View Spoiler Minnesota Vikings: Click To View Spoiler New England Patriots: Click To View Spoiler New Orleans Saints: Click To View Spoiler New York Giants: Click To View Spoiler New York Jets: Click To View Spoiler Philadelphia Eagles: Click To View Spoiler Pittsburgh Steelers: Click To View Spoiler San Francisco 49ers: Click To View Spoiler Seattle Seahawks: Click To View Spoiler Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Click To View Spoiler Tennessee Titans: Click To View Spoiler Washington Commanders: Click To View Spoiler |
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Posted: 3/1/2023 5:06:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Doesn't look like he's going to pay much of a price for this one. But, if I'm a GM, I have to wonder if this guy is on the Henry Ruggs path. He got a reckless driving ticket in the fall, so he obviously doesn't learn from his mistakes. I thought that GA law was a felony if someone dies as a result of racing. |
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Posted: 3/1/2023 7:00:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You mean sorta like Cleveland did? Except a rookie contract is no where near what Watson is getting. You can bet some team will pick him up especially if he drops a round or two. A round or two? He won’t drop out of the top 10. |
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Posted: 3/1/2023 7:13:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Team report cards. For those to lazy to follow the links, just click the spoiler under your team. Top 3 teams: Vikings, Dolphins, Raiders Last place team: Washington Miami Dolphins: Click To View Spoiler |
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Posted: 3/1/2023 7:34:35 PM EDT
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A judge has ruled in Michael Irvin's favor in a request for expedited evidence in his $100M lawsuit against Marriott and one of their female employees.
Marriott must now provide Irvin with any and all video recordings, witness statements and written reports related to the pre-Super Bowl incident. The exact nature of her accusation still isn't clear as neither her or Marriott have released a statement regarding what she claims happened. The Phoenix police said they still have not received any criminal complaint. Marriott may redact the female employee's name, but all evidence must be submitted by 5pm on March 7th. |
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Posted: 3/1/2023 8:13:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I would disagree that I’ve derailed this thread since my return. Don’t you have a Rebel to shit on? Actually, he/ we doesn’t. 
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Posted: 3/1/2023 8:32:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The idea that the Cardinals charge their players for food is just hard for me to even fathom. You would think you would want your 225 million dollar roster to be maximizing their nutrition and weight goals. The best way to do that is just to fucking feed them yourself. Don't trust that 21 year old millionaire to handle his diet on his own. Don't want that Eddie Lacy problem. What a cheapskate fucking problem to have in the NFL. Especially considering fucking revenue sharing. Edit: Overall Cardinals rankings: Treatment of Families: F, tied for last place Food Service/Nutrution: F-, tied for last place Weight Room: F-, last place Strength Coaches: A, tied for 17th Training Room: F-, tied for last place Training Staff: B+, tied for 22nd Locker Room: F, 31st place Team Travel: B+, tied for 12th The only thing they did OKAY in (12th to 22nd) is staff and travel. Everything else was last, or next to last. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I've been reading through these. There's a lot to take in. You would think you would want your 225 million dollar roster to be maximizing their nutrition and weight goals. The best way to do that is just to fucking feed them yourself. Don't trust that 21 year old millionaire to handle his diet on his own. Don't want that Eddie Lacy problem. What a cheapskate fucking problem to have in the NFL. Especially considering fucking revenue sharing. Edit: Overall Cardinals rankings: Treatment of Families: F, tied for last place Food Service/Nutrution: F-, tied for last place Weight Room: F-, last place Strength Coaches: A, tied for 17th Training Room: F-, tied for last place Training Staff: B+, tied for 22nd Locker Room: F, 31st place Team Travel: B+, tied for 12th The only thing they did OKAY in (12th to 22nd) is staff and travel. Everything else was last, or next to last. I am not surprised at the cardinals, I don’t remember the player but he said when he signed a contract with them they overnighted the contract to him to sign, and they deducted the cost of that, around $10.00, from his check. |
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Posted: 3/1/2023 8:36:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A judge has ruled in Michael Irvin's favor in a request for expedited evidence in his $100M lawsuit against Marriott and one of their female employees. Marriott must now provide Irvin with any and all video recordings, witness statements and written reports related to the pre-Super Bowl incident. The exact nature of her accusation still isn't clear as neither her or Marriott have released a statement regarding what she claims happened. The Phoenix police said they still have not received any criminal complaint. Marriott may redact the female employee's name, but all evidence must be submitted by 5pm on March 7th. I hope Michael Irvin didn't do anything wrong. If he did, he did, and needs to be held accountable. I am going out on a limb and say he will be shown to only have had a conversation with his accuser. It is Vegas, there are cameras everywhere. ETA;IF this woman is lying about this, she should pay the price. |
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Posted: 3/1/2023 8:52:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If the 49'ers really are looking at all options... https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/490117/7e1ac96eed763d2e9be22a31f0abfc71_jpg-2729874.JPG The fact that it's San Francisco should not be lost on anyone here.
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Posted: 3/1/2023 9:03:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't know if Henry's been overrated or overhyped. I know he was hurt half of 2021 and still had almost 1000 yards with ten tds. last season Henry had 1500 yards with 13 tds, almost 400 yards receiving, too. imho that's really good for a rb. zeke had just under 900 yards with 12 tds and just under 100 receiving. I know zeke split a lot of time with pollard, too. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: In the past two seasons has there been a RB more overrated and overhyped than Henry? Hell, even with Zeke dropping off a cliff and Henry getting 87 carries a game Henry is only averaging 1.5 more yards per game than Zeke. I don't know if Henry's been overrated or overhyped. I know he was hurt half of 2021 and still had almost 1000 yards with ten tds. last season Henry had 1500 yards with 13 tds, almost 400 yards receiving, too. imho that's really good for a rb. zeke had just under 900 yards with 12 tds and just under 100 receiving. I know zeke split a lot of time with pollard, too. Yards per carry.
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Posted: 3/1/2023 9:14:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryThe facilities there can't be that bad, they were state of the art exactly 20 years ago when the taxpayers built their stadium, $100 Million over budget at that. Mike Brown is notoriously cheap. Unless he upgraded recently, his daily driver is a Chevy Lumina. And a brand new stadium didn't cost him one cent. |
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Posted: 3/1/2023 9:22:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The idea that the Cardinals charge their players for food is just hard for me to even fathom. You would think you would want your 225 million dollar roster to be maximizing their nutrition and weight goals. The best way to do that is just to fucking feed them yourself. Don't trust that 21 year old millionaire to handle his diet on his own. Don't want that Eddie Lacy problem. What a cheapskate fucking problem to have in the NFL. Especially considering fucking revenue sharing. Edit: Overall Cardinals rankings: Treatment of Families: F, tied for last place Food Service/Nutrution: F-, tied for last place Weight Room: F-, last place Strength Coaches: A, tied for 17th Training Room: F-, tied for last place Training Staff: B+, tied for 22nd Locker Room: F, 31st place Team Travel: B+, tied for 12th The only thing they did OKAY in (12th to 22nd) is staff and travel. Everything else was last, or next to last. Controlling their diets to be exceptional, I can see, just not on the house. The owners that are being targeted are probably thinking, I'm giving you millions of dollars, setting you and your family up for generations, but you want me to feed you for free?   Attached FileReading these report cards, some of the complaints are tier 1 diva-level bitching. Harden the hell up. |
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Posted: 3/1/2023 9:31:45 PM EDT
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It must be good to be bad.
 The Kansas City Chiefs are ranked 29th overall in our team guide. In general, the results show that the facility feels outdated and players would like to see upgrades across the board. Only 56% of respondents believe that club owner Clark Hunt is willing to invest the money to upgrade the facility, ranking him 27th in this category. Players' responses showed that treatment of players also falls well below other clubs across the NFL. For example, the Chiefs are one of 6 teams that still make certain players have roommates, and less than 50% of players feel they have enough room to be comfortable on flights. Feedback on the training room was also notable; player respondents called for a more welcoming environment, and several players had negative opinions about head trainer Rick Burkholder, feeling that he does not treat players fairly and consistently, or with personal care. |
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Posted: 3/2/2023 12:39:44 PM EDT
[#41]
LMFAO
[url=https://apple.news/AIFNTCw8KRcWWAsa3LgN7SQ]https://apple.news/AIFNTCw8KRcWWAsa3LgN7SQ The Washington Commanders have faced controversies over their name, their workplace culture and ownership. Now they have been tagged as the worst team in the NFL to play for—and that’s according to the players themselves. Washington’s football team, which owner Dan Snyder is exploring selling, ranked last in a new survey conducted by the NFL Players Association that rated teams in eight categories, including the treatment of players’ families, nutrition, the training staff and team travel. In three categories, the Commanders received an F- grade. |
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Posted: 3/2/2023 12:57:11 PM EDT
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The Dimopoulus Law Firm ran a commercial with Raiders defensive end Maxx Crosby in a generic black and silver uniform that had no NFL/Raiders logos/trademarks.
The NFL sent them a cease-and-desist letter anyways vowing to sue if the law firm did not pull the commercial. The law firm responding by filing a lawsuit against the NFL first. Free publicity for the law firm at the hand of the NFL. Better than any commercial. |
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Posted: 3/2/2023 1:15:08 PM EDT
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Bucs unloading a number of players early on this off-season. |
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Posted: 3/2/2023 1:55:25 PM EDT
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There has been a lot of discussion about them wanting to move up in the draft for a quarterback. Lot of people seem to think Seattle at #5 is the spot. The Panthers have extra draft capital to spend from the CMC trade. We'll see. |
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Posted: 3/2/2023 2:12:34 PM EDT
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Willie McGinest has been charged with two felonies for his restaurant attack. One count of assault with a deadly weapon (the booze bottle strike), and one count of assault by means of force likely to cause great bodily injury (striking the victim while he was held down in the head).
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Posted: 3/2/2023 2:36:41 PM EDT
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Question of the day:
Everything else team-wise being equal, which quarterback would you choose to lead your team....Dan Marino or Aaron Rodgers? I'm picking Marino all day and twice on Sundays. Better leader, better pure passer, did more with less, and even though he was immobile, he rarely got sacked. |
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Posted: 3/2/2023 2:39:03 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/2/2023 2:41:45 PM EDT
[#48]
This morning Alvin Kamara plead not guilty to his misdemeanor and felony charges for the Las Vegas Pro-Bowl assault. His trial has been initially scheduled for July 31st. If it isn't delayed, then any league discipline should come down before week 1 of the 2023 season.
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Posted: 3/2/2023 2:55:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This morning Alvin Kamara plead not guilty to his misdemeanor and felony charges for the Las Vegas Pro-Bowl assault. His trial has been initially scheduled for July 31st. If it isn't delayed, then any league discipline should come down before week 1 of the 2023 season. Not guilty? The motherfucker got caught on video doing it and then later he got caught on audio bragging about it.  |
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Posted: 3/2/2023 3:05:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Question of the day: Everything else team-wise being equal, which quarterback would you choose to lead your team....Dan Marino or Aaron Rodgers? I'm picking Marino all day and twice on Sundays. Better leader, better pure passer, did more with less, and even though he was immobile, he rarely got sacked. Often wonder how many championships the Steelers would have won if they had drafted him. 
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