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Link Posted: 3/2/2023 3:08:52 PM EDT
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Not guilty?  The motherfucker got caught on video doing it and then later he got caught on audio bragging about it.
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This morning Alvin Kamara plead not guilty to his misdemeanor and felony charges for the Las Vegas Pro-Bowl assault. His trial has been initially scheduled for July 31st. If it isn't delayed, then any league discipline should come down before week 1 of the 2023 season.

Not guilty?  The motherfucker got caught on video doing it and then later he got caught on audio bragging about it.


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This morning Alvin Kamara plead not guilty to his misdemeanor and felony charges for the Las Vegas Pro-Bowl assault. His trial has been initially scheduled for July 31st. If it isn't delayed, then any league discipline should come down before week 1 of the 2023 season.

Not guilty?  The motherfucker got caught on video doing it and then later he got caught on audio bragging about it.


Link Posted: 3/2/2023 3:56:55 PM EDT
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Marino all day long.


Often wonder how many championships the Steelers would have won if they had drafted him.
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Everything else team-wise being equal, which quarterback would you choose to lead your team....Dan Marino or Aaron Rodgers?

I'm picking Marino all day and twice on Sundays. Better leader, better pure passer, did more with less, and even though he was immobile, he rarely got sacked.
Marino all day long.


Often wonder how many championships the Steelers would have won if they had drafted him.


1983 draft.

The Chiefs took Todd Blackledge at #7 over Jim Kelly (#14), Tony Eason (#15), Ken O'Brien (#24), and Dan Marino (#27).

Blackledge was easily the worst QB of that group. I'm glad I'm not old enough to have lived through that. lol

The Chiefs wouldn't use another first round pick on a QB until 2017...
Link Posted: 3/2/2023 4:33:38 PM EDT
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I'm picking Marino all day and twice on Sundays. Better leader, better pure passer, did more with less, and even though he was immobile, he rarely got sacked.
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I dunno man, Marino is getting old....

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Offer me two firsts, a second, and two thirds. Then arrange the salary such that you’re eating some cap.

Do that and we can talk.
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Offer me two firsts, a second, and two thirds. Then arrange the salary such that you're eating some cap.

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The Packers have him under contract. The market is shrinking.

If you want him, come get him.
Link Posted: 3/2/2023 5:03:30 PM EDT
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What's the market value for a 40 year old quarterback, coming off a down year, who has contemplated retirement for 3 years, who is owed a guaranteed $60M for a single season?
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The Packers have him under contract. The market is shrinking.

If you want him, come get him.


39.3.

Is that Rodgers's:

A- Age
B- 2022 QBR
C- Both

Link Posted: 3/2/2023 5:08:11 PM EDT
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The Packers have him under contract. The market is shrinking.
What's the market value for a 40 year old quarterback, coming off a down year, who has contemplated retirement for 3 years, who is owed a guaranteed $60M for a single season?

That’s not my problem. He won 2/3 of the last 3 MVP awards. I want him on my team, and he is contracted to be on my team.

I don’t have an incentive to sell him at a discount.
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That's not my problem. He won 2/3 of the last 3 MVP awards. I want him on my team, and he is contracted to be
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Two 1s, a 2, and two 3s is probably enough to get into the #1 pick where they can get a young QB with long-term potential on a rookie deal. I speculated on his trade comp a number of pages ago but if I were GM probably a 1 and a 2/3 would get it done. Even better if they have some pass catchers or defensive backs to sweeten the deal.
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Less than $15M in available cap space.
$60M cash due to the quarterback.
Declining performance, older age.
Potential replacement entering final year of his rookie contract.
Tired of the drama/retirement talk/waffling/media attention.

There are lots of potential reasons to move on from Rodgers. The cap, cash and his performance in 2022 are all big incentives.
Link Posted: 3/2/2023 5:31:19 PM EDT
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I bet this time last year they would have come close to that. Now, idk?

I am a Rodgers fan, but, that's a haul for an almost 40 year old QB.
Link Posted: 3/2/2023 5:35:22 PM EDT
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I heard on TV that 2 more teams pulled out of the possible Aaron R. trade.
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Less than $15M in available cap space.
$60M cash due to the quarterback.
Declining performance, older age.
Potential replacement entering final year of his rookie contract.
Tired of the drama/retirement talk/waffling/media attention.

There are lots of potential reasons to move on from Rodgers. The cap, cash and his performance in 2022 are all big incentives.
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I don't have an incentive to sell him at a discount.
Less than $15M in available cap space.
$60M cash due to the quarterback.
Declining performance, older age.
Potential replacement entering final year of his rookie contract.
Tired of the drama/retirement talk/waffling/media attention.

There are lots of potential reasons to move on from Rodgers. The cap, cash and his performance in 2022 are all big incentives.

I’m sure you know how the cap works better than me, but doesn’t a trade hurt worse than the existing schedule for the coming year?

I didn’t want Jordan Love in the first place. I don’t factor in his cheap contract. Rodgers’ drama is hugely over exaggerated by Cowherd etc. His performance may be declining, I don’t know. He won 2 of the last 3 MVPs.
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The option in Rodgers' contract doesn't have to be exercised until the 1st week of the season if they so choose. If they do a Post June 1st trade, and split his deadcap, then they would take a $15.8M hit in 2023 and $24.5M in 2024.

It would free up $15.8M in cap space for 2023 and save them $59.5M in cash this year and all of that $59.5M in spread out cap (the $15.8M saved this year, and the remainder on future years).
Link Posted: 3/2/2023 5:48:45 PM EDT
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Everything else team-wise being equal, which quarterback would you choose to lead your team....Dan Marino or Aaron Rodgers?

I'm picking Marino all day and twice on Sundays. Better leader, better pure passer, did more with less, and even though he was immobile, he rarely got sacked.
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Everything else team-wise being equal, which quarterback would you choose to lead your team....Dan Marino or Aaron Rodgers?

I'm picking Marino all day and twice on Sundays. Better leader, better pure passer, did more with less, and even though he was immobile, he rarely got sacked.



Former Philadelphia Eagles DE Hugh Douglas has been a sports talk show host here in Atlanta for several years, he just took a job back in Philly BTW. He told stories about trying to get to Marino, said he got close enough to smell his cologne a few times but could never get him down. He said that was his biggest regret as an NFL player, Marino made a lot of them miss so getting to him was the goal of many.
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"We are looking forward to trial and a full vindication." - Kamara's attorney


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Yes, please.
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This guy was on my wish list for #31. No chance he's there now.
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Panthers beat writer saying Schefty is wrong again.
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Got damn.
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This guy was on my wish list for #31. No chance he's there now.


Got damn.


DE Adebawore is also faster than Diggs and Hopkins.

He ran 4.54 at 6'2" and 280 lbs.

Say what you will about the underwear olympics, and a lot if it is true, but holy crap.
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Was queueing it up before you posted that.

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Everything else team-wise being equal, which quarterback would you choose to lead your team....Dan Marino or Aaron Rodgers?

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In a scenario where both guys came up in this modern era of football? Marino.

In a scenario where they get time machine teleported to the current day at the very second they get drafted? Rodgers.

Sports science has done amazing things for modern players.
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DE Adebawore is also faster than Diggs and Hopkins.

He ran 4.54 at 6'2" and 280 lbs.

Say what you will about the underwear olympics, and a lot if it is true, but holy crap.
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This guy was on my wish list for #31. No chance he's there now.


Got damn.


DE Adebawore is also faster than Diggs and Hopkins.

He ran 4.54 at 6'2" and 280 lbs.

Say what you will about the underwear olympics, and a lot if it is true, but holy crap.


Those are some freaks. Holy fuck

Hopefully neither go to the AFC East, unless its the Bills
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Those are some freaks. Holy fuck

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That would be nice
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Everything else team-wise being equal, which quarterback would you choose to lead your team....Dan Marino or Aaron Rodgers?

I'm picking Marino all day and twice on Sundays. Better leader, better pure passer, did more with less, and even though he was immobile, he rarely got sacked.
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Man you woke up and chose violence today, huh?

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Everything else team-wise being equal, which quarterback would you choose to lead your team....Dan Marino or Aaron Rodgers?

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Were you day drinking when you posted this? Why is this even a question?
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The only reason to plead guilty at a pre-trial hearing is if you’ve already got a plea deal worked out.

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Marinos 84 season is the best QB year that’s ever been or will be.
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Rodgers has been fragile in this era. He’d probably be the David Carr of the 80s of he was drafted then.
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teams don't have private jets? are they flying commercial and some won't allow players in first class?

well, I guess if you only have 8/9 flights a year, maybe commercial is the best option (I was thinking NBA/MLB where they travel for 41/81 games a season).
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teams don't have private jets? are they flying commercial and some won't allow players in first class?

well, I guess if you only have 8/9 flights a year, maybe commercial is the best option (I was thinking NBA/MLB where they travel for 41/81 games a season).
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teams don't have private jets? are they flying commercial and some won't allow players in first class?

well, I guess if you only have 8/9 flights a year, maybe commercial is the best option (I was thinking NBA/MLB where they travel for 41/81 games a season).


Some teams have jets, but I think most charter planes.

I think the Chiefs just charter regular United Airlines birds. I don’t know how many first class seats there are, but it’s not enough for a NFL roster with a bunch of big dudes plus execs that don’t ride coach.
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I think they would have been the Patriots before the Patriots.

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Everything else team-wise being equal, which quarterback would you choose to lead your team....Dan Marino or Aaron Rodgers?

I'm picking Marino all day and twice on Sundays. Better leader, better pure passer, did more with less, and even though he was immobile, he rarely got sacked.

Man you woke up and chose violence today, huh?

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Yep. It is mind bogglingly ridiculous how good that season was.

5,000 yards...in 1984???

48 touchdowns? LOL.
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Yep. It is mind bogglingly ridiculous how good that season was.

5,000 yards...in 1984???

48 touchdowns? LOL.
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Yep. It is mind bogglingly ridiculous how good that season was.

5,000 yards...in 1984???

48 touchdowns? LOL.

Adjusting for inflation that’d be like 7,000 yards and 70 TDs today.
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Marino all day long.

Often wonder how many championships the Steelers would have won if they had drafted him.
I think they would have been the Patriots before the Patriots.

The [John Facenda] Pittsburgh Steelers [/John Facenda] would have owned the '80s like they owned the '70s. Their receivers were pretty good (Stallworth and Lipps) and their defense was better than Miami's.

Now imagine those Steelers teams from the '90s with Marino.
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The [John Facenda] Pittsburgh Steelers [/John Facenda] would have owned the '80s like they owned the '70s. Their receivers were pretty good (Stallworth and Lipps) and their defense was better than Miami's.

Now imagine those Steelers teams from the '90s with Marino.
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Marino all day long.

Often wonder how many championships the Steelers would have won if they had drafted him.
I think they would have been the Patriots before the Patriots.

The [John Facenda] Pittsburgh Steelers [/John Facenda] would have owned the '80s like they owned the '70s. Their receivers were pretty good (Stallworth and Lipps) and their defense was better than Miami's.

Now imagine those Steelers teams from the '90s with Marino.

At no point in NFL history has a conference been more loaded than the NFC in the early-mid 90s.  Between that and the Bills in the AFC (people can laugh about the 4 Super Bowl losses in a row, but that was still a great team) I think the Steelers might have won one Super Bowl in the early-mid 90s.  

The late 90s would’ve been their best shot at a 90s dynasty, but by then time had taken it’s toll on Marino.  His last 3 seasons were 3 of the 4 worst of his career.  Maybe that still would’ve been enough though.
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At no point in NFL history has a conference been more loaded than the NFC in the early-mid 90s.  Between that and the Bills in the AFC (people can laugh about the 4 Super Bowl losses in a row, but that was still a great team) I think the Steelers might have won one Super Bowl in the early-mid 90s.  

The late 90s would’ve been their best shot at a 90s dynasty, but by then time had taken it’s toll on Marino.  His last 3 seasons were 3 of the 4 worst of his career.  Maybe that still would’ve been enough though.
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A. The AFC of the '70s was more loaded than the NFC in the '90s. The Dolphins, Steelers, and Raiders were better in their era than Dallas, SF, or Green Bay were in theirs.

B. The '90s Steelers were one player away from beating Dallas in the '95 Super Bowl. Quarterback. If that QB was Dan Marino, they not only would have beaten Dallas in that year's Super Bowl, they most assuredly would have gone to the previous year's Super Bowl and possibly beaten SF.
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A. The AFC of the '70s was more loaded than the NFC in the '90s. The Dolphins, Steelers, and Raiders were better in their era than Dallas, SF, or Green Bay were in theirs.

B. The '90s Steelers were one player away from beating Dallas in the '95 Super Bowl. Quarterback. If that QB was Dan Marino, they not only would have beaten Dallas in that year's Super Bowl, they most assuredly would have gone to the previous year's Super Bowl and possibly beaten SF.
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At no point in NFL history has a conference been more loaded than the NFC in the early-mid 90s.  Between that and the Bills in the AFC (people can laugh about the 4 Super Bowl losses in a row, but that was still a great team) I think the Steelers might have won one Super Bowl in the early-mid 90s.  

The late 90s would’ve been their best shot at a 90s dynasty, but by then time had taken it’s toll on Marino.  His last 3 seasons were 3 of the 4 worst of his career.  Maybe that still would’ve been enough though.

A. The AFC of the '70s was more loaded than the NFC in the '90s. The Dolphins, Steelers, and Raiders were better in their era than Dallas, SF, or Green Bay were in theirs.

B. The '90s Steelers were one player away from beating Dallas in the '95 Super Bowl. Quarterback. If that QB was Dan Marino, they not only would have beaten Dallas in that year's Super Bowl, they most assuredly would have gone to the previous year's Super Bowl and possibly beaten SF.

A. I’ll give you the Packers (they were a great, but not all-time great team), but the Cowboys and 49ers were two juggernauts that I think would’ve had a dynasty in any era.  If it wasn’t for the 49ers the Cowboys would’ve almost certainly won 4 Super Bowls in a row and if not for the Cowboys I think the 49ers would’ve won 3 in a row.

B. That is the one year I was referring to.
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Some teams have jets, but I think most charter planes.

I think the Chiefs just charter regular United Airlines birds. I don’t know how many first class seats there are, but it’s not enough for a NFL roster with a bunch of big dudes plus execs that don’t ride coach.
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teams don't have private jets? are they flying commercial and some won't allow players in first class?

well, I guess if you only have 8/9 flights a year, maybe commercial is the best option (I was thinking NBA/MLB where they travel for 41/81 games a season).


Some teams have jets, but I think most charter planes.

I think the Chiefs just charter regular United Airlines birds. I don’t know how many first class seats there are, but it’s not enough for a NFL roster with a bunch of big dudes plus execs that don’t ride coach.


I think the Patriots are the only team with their own airliner. The rest fly charters and the seats are configured differently, they aren't going to stuff those big guys in coach configuration. It's probably more like business comfort throughout the plane with fewer seats than us pleabs fly on. American dropped a few team charters after realizing they could make more revenue on regular commercial flights.  
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