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Link Posted: 1/28/2019 1:29:50 PM EST
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Link Posted: 1/28/2019 1:32:21 PM EST
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if you want my money you will answer my call. or your competitor will
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In my experience, most businesses don't want people who say things like that. Tend to be high maintenance.

Also, thanks for processing my Masonic badge so quickly, brother. I'll take your calls any old day.
Link Posted: 1/28/2019 1:33:56 PM EST
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Looks like some snot nosed puke needs a good,swift kick in the duck.
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Don't break a hip.
Link Posted: 1/28/2019 1:34:50 PM EST
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If you won't pick up the phone you're not worth my time sending you a text.
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Self filtering problem. Person who is annoying to communicate with stops communicating with me.
Link Posted: 1/28/2019 1:39:15 PM EST
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Link Posted: 1/28/2019 1:42:26 PM EST
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No irony.   I was born at the end of the boomer era, and I am not angry about technology choices.  I use text, e-mail, voice mail, I send letters and cards, I use typing on forums like AR15.COM, I meet with people in person, and speak to them by phone.  They each have merit.  The irony is youngsters not choosing the best tool for the job -- or being in business and not realizing the market may not only want to use the one they have limited themselves to.

Do youngsters only text fast food orders on their phone for delivery, or do some drive up to the establishment and place an order into the scary voice box?   Do some venture so far as to go sit inside for a relaxing meal?  I guess the angry old world should only get their food by texting and deliver so as not to piss off the youngsters.
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OMG! SO GOOD!  
Link Posted: 1/28/2019 1:43:48 PM EST
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Texting is stupid and regressive; it's the digital equivalent of sending a telegram. Next thing you know, OP will want us to text him in Morse code, or install a TTY hub .

Voice communication is much faster, and enables the recipient to hear nuances of inflection and emotion which are missing in print. If you can't take a call, send your messages straight to voicemail, and retrieve them at your leisure.

If you require a written record of communications, request an e-mail. I refuse to exchange messages with
someone by texting, because they're probably one of those idiots who texts everyone while driving.
Link Posted: 1/28/2019 1:51:44 PM EST
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... trying to leave voicemail when calling someone who specifically told you to text them?

Why are you not texting people?

Do you not like the fact that there is a transcribed document that is proof of something you said? Do you say dumb shit constantly?

Is new technology not for you? Do you have trouble tying your shoes in the morning? Do you have velcro sneakers?

Have you not talked to people in years because of this? Are you living in shame? Or do you just talk to f****** much?

What's the reason?

Please surprise me by actually typing out your response.
You get double the points if you did it on your smartphone. You get triple the points if you use one you own and not your child's.
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I'm 65. Ok, as you requested, here is my typed reply;  FUCK YOU you hateful scumbag! I'll bet you're a loser and your own family has trouble tolerating you.
Link Posted: 1/28/2019 1:59:53 PM EST
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Ageist.
Link Posted: 1/28/2019 2:01:22 PM EST
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psyops666
Link Posted: 1/28/2019 2:03:45 PM EST
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I'm old af and I don't even retrieve VM. I hate it. It's always bad news.
Link Posted: 1/28/2019 2:04:00 PM EST
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I'm an engineer. Send me a diagram and a succinct message. If it bears conversation, we can talk about it later, at my convenience, after I've read your message and digested your diagram.

Calling someone and insisting they talk to you RFN is the height of rudeness in my world. Everyone is busy, and I'm usually multi-tasking with at least one phone line, if not two already tied up on a conference call.

If you're text averse, and insist I talk to you, then at least send me a short message that says "Hey, when you get a minute, I need to talk to you about X, give me a call
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I hate taking calls.

If you have something important to say, write a concise text or email that I can read in 10-20 seconds instead of your rambling vm or phone call.
This right here.

Every fucking old person I encounter is an obviously lonely gasbag who wants to ear rape you for an hour with the same story they told you last week about some lame shit that happened when they were in high school 50 years ago.

I just want the information, not your fucking life's story.
Not every topic can be condensed to 20 seconds of reading, but maybe you have very simple lives that involve no complex topics. Trying to get the younger generation to even scroll past the preview pane on an email is nearly impossible.  In my experience the younger generation is fucking hopeless at communication - they don't read what they're sent, they don't converse, and they're dumb enough to be arrogant about their shortcoming.
I'm an engineer. Send me a diagram and a succinct message. If it bears conversation, we can talk about it later, at my convenience, after I've read your message and digested your diagram.

Calling someone and insisting they talk to you RFN is the height of rudeness in my world. Everyone is busy, and I'm usually multi-tasking with at least one phone line, if not two already tied up on a conference call.

If you're text averse, and insist I talk to you, then at least send me a short message that says "Hey, when you get a minute, I need to talk to you about X, give me a call
Other people are busy too.

I watch guys thumb fucking their phone all day when calls would take half the time.  I text you...and wait...you text back without reading my text fully...I reply...and wait...you send an irritated reply that still doesn't get the point...I reply...and wait...

Or we could have a thirty second call.
Link Posted: 1/28/2019 2:05:01 PM EST
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My mom does exactly that.  I even changed my voice mail greeting to say that the voice mail is NOT RELIABLE because it doesn't always give me a visual indication that there is a message waiting, and she STILL leaves voice mails.

ETA she's 84 and very computer literate, but she has a blind spot about learning that my VM often doesn't work properly.
Link Posted: 1/28/2019 2:08:45 PM EST
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We want to TALK
NOT
fumble thumb a pos keyboard

My two thumbs cover the entire iPhone 8 keyboard
Link Posted: 1/28/2019 2:10:24 PM EST
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Link Posted: 1/28/2019 2:18:24 PM EST
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This has to be the third or fourth thread in the last week whining about "old people". I suggest the authors stow their condescension in their prison wallet along with their narcissism. Wanting things your own way is normal and acceptable. Expecting the world to bend to your wishes is immature and, ultimately, futile. Now, if you'll excuse me, I need to get the nurse to change my colostomy bag and replace my oxygen tank...
Link Posted: 1/28/2019 2:21:33 PM EST
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Do you not like the fact that there is a transcribed document that is proof of something you said?
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You’re not the boss of me. Also the above statement is real retarded. You do understand that a voicemail is an actual recording, with the persons voice, that is actually proof of something they said?

Full disclosure I hate voicemail too and would rather text.
That said, sometimes I’m not going to write a goddamn novel in text when I have a lot to say or something complicated. Learn how to speak to other people. Emoticons are not a subsitute for a conversation.
Link Posted: 1/28/2019 2:37:10 PM EST
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My mom does exactly that.  I even changed my voice mail greeting to say that the voice mail is NOT RELIABLE because it doesn't always give me a visual indication that there is a message waiting, and she STILL leaves voice mails.

ETA she's 84 and very computer literate, but she has a blind spot about learning that my VM often doesn't work properly.
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Is that her problem?  Or yours?
Link Posted: 1/28/2019 2:53:07 PM EST
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USE CAPS LOCK.

I was nice enough not to ignore you. Can't say the same for your coworkers.

You know what can't be ignored? Text.

Stop being old
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when in business I need to convey intent, urgency to "do your fucking job" I need you to hear that in my voice as professionalism doesn't allow me to write it.  Or I need to relay highly technical specs and am not going to type out a novel to you.  answer your damn phone next time, its not like you dont know who it is.

How's that?
USE CAPS LOCK.

I was nice enough not to ignore you. Can't say the same for your coworkers.

You know what can't be ignored? Text.

Stop being old
LOFL.  Your screen name tells me you are old (old BBS sysop here).

And you are wrong about ignoring texts.
Link Posted: 1/28/2019 3:06:25 PM EST
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Sorry OP, it was me. Had to use a payphone(you know how hard those are to find?)

Anyways, when I...
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Yeah, that will get you a time out.  Better delete the second paragraph.
Link Posted: 1/28/2019 3:09:52 PM EST
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LOFL.  Your screen name tells me you are old (old BBS sysop here).

And you are wrong about ignoring texts.
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when in business I need to convey intent, urgency to "do your fucking job" I need you to hear that in my voice as professionalism doesn't allow me to write it.  Or I need to relay highly technical specs and am not going to type out a novel to you.  answer your damn phone next time, its not like you dont know who it is.

How's that?
USE CAPS LOCK.

I was nice enough not to ignore you. Can't say the same for your coworkers.

You know what can't be ignored? Text.

Stop being old
LOFL.  Your screen name tells me you are old (old BBS sysop here).

And you are wrong about ignoring texts.
It's really easy to ignore texts.  I normally don't even notice I have them unless there's a reason to check.  Nothing important comes in for me via text w/o some kind of warning.
Link Posted: 1/28/2019 3:12:33 PM EST
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Other people are busy too.

I watch guys thumb fucking their phone all day when calls would take half the time.  I text you...and wait...you text back without reading my text fully...I reply...and wait...you send an irritated reply that still doesn't get the point...I reply...and wait...

Or we could have a thirty second call.
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So call.

At the first hint of miscommunication, call.  You don't have to continue the broken conversation.
Link Posted: 1/28/2019 3:16:19 PM EST
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If you want to talk to me, "Talk to me".  Otherwise Fuck Off.   I am not here for your convenience.
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yep, if it's important and you have time to text, you have time to call.  If it's really important leave a message.  If it isn't that important.  I probably will get around to reading it later.  maybe.

I went for 60+ years w/o texting, I can go another 60 if I have to.

I can't have the phone on at work, so I violate my preferences and will read texts on breaks and lunches if from a certain few people.  I have an 89 year old mother so I need to be able to get emergency texts/voice-mails.  But if it isn't a real emergency call me after work.
Link Posted: 1/28/2019 3:19:29 PM EST
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USE CAPS LOCK.

I was nice enough not to ignore you. Can't say the same for your coworkers.

You know what can't be ignored? Text.

Stop being old
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when in business I need to convey intent, urgency to "do your fucking job" I need you to hear that in my voice as professionalism doesn't allow me to write it.  Or I need to relay highly technical specs and am not going to type out a novel to you.  answer your damn phone next time, its not like you dont know who it is.

How's that?
USE CAPS LOCK.

I was nice enough not to ignore you. Can't say the same for your coworkers.

You know what can't be ignored? Text.

Stop being old
Can't ignore texts?  Wanna bet?
Link Posted: 1/28/2019 3:22:03 PM EST
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Link Posted: 1/28/2019 3:36:22 PM EST
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Is that her problem?  Or yours?
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My mom does exactly that.  I even changed my voice mail greeting to say that the voice mail is NOT RELIABLE because it doesn't always give me a visual indication that there is a message waiting, and she STILL leaves voice mails.

ETA she's 84 and very computer literate, but she has a blind spot about learning that my VM often doesn't work properly.
Is that her problem?  Or yours?
It becomes an issue for me when she gets angry that I haven't returned her calls promptly.  I am responsible for helping her manage her health care.  Occasionally she will leave a voice message about something that is legitimately urgent.

I am not going to change phones or providers when there is such a simple workaround.  She could even do voice to text.  She's just stubborn.
Link Posted: 1/28/2019 3:37:01 PM EST
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Old geezer here.  What I don't understand is young guys whose shit is always messed up because they can't pay their bill on time.  Or the ones who just can't accept that something ain't broke and then proceed to fix the hell out of it until it never works right.

I've made a living providing real functional communications systems that let people do their jobs and not create a bunch of drama.  Been doing it longer than a lot of you guys have been alive.  If you see me messing around with some technological marvel somewhere rest assured I'm trying to figure out how to use it to solve a problem somewhere else.  I don't need you to explain to me how to use it unless you want to talk about why it works.  Kids today are just consumers, not creators.  Yeah, I remember when a four barrel carb was a big deal for a car.  I've had to handle punch cards and magnetic tape storage.  Hell, I remember the day I stayed home with my uncle to watch the moon landing on TV.  I've seen platforms and applications come and go.  I'm adaptable.  I can communicate across many different platforms.

It's a poor workman who blames the tools.
Link Posted: 1/28/2019 3:41:36 PM EST
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I own a business. Most people call us. But some text. If anyone texts i almost always call them back. I can converse with them on the phone and get and receive a tone of information in a very short period of time. I would never be able to do that over text and if I tried to text that much information we would both die of old age.

That is why I call. And I'm not a old person.
Link Posted: 1/28/2019 3:47:12 PM EST
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If it's like here some spelling/grammar Nazi would be on the other end.
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Actually, we prefer the term "Defenders and Preservers of Literacy"
Link Posted: 1/28/2019 3:47:23 PM EST
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Makes sense...

Nothing gets me more than a 45 sec rambling VM saying "Hi PewPewPew1212, this is XXXXXX... I was just calling because I have something I really want to tell you.  It is super important and time sensitive so call me back right away."

Either send a text of that takes one second to read and says "Call me" or leave the details in the VM.  Don't make me listen to the long rambling equivalent of "call me" as it's just rude and inconsiderate of my time... You want me to call you, well I will when I have time and you'll likely hear from me earlier if I don't waste my earliest opportunity just listening to a VM that tells me to call you in the most verbose manner possible.
Link Posted: 1/28/2019 3:51:58 PM EST
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Because sometimes a 30-second phone call is easier than 25 back-and-forth texts.

And BTW, my 82 year-old mother loves to text on her Note.
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Very true -- Phone calls are no doubt more efficient when there's mutual exchange of information between two parties.  It's when one party rambles on endlessly that the other party prefers txt.
Link Posted: 1/28/2019 3:52:18 PM EST
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I Hate texts.

If you have something important to say, call me. If not, I probably won’t read the text for a day or two
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Spoken like a true old person!

Link Posted: 1/28/2019 3:52:45 PM EST
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Texting is stupid and regressive; it's the digital equivalent of sending a telegram. Next thing you know, OP will want us to text him in Morse code, or install a TTY hub .

Voice communication is much faster, and enables the recipient to hear nuances of inflection and emotion which are missing in print. If you can't take a call, send your messages straight to voicemail, and retrieve them at your leisure.

If you require a written record of communications, request an e-mail. I refuse to exchange messages with
someone by texting, because they're probably one of those idiots who texts everyone while driving.
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Phone calls, on the other hand, are intrusive and demand immediate attention just to make the fucking thing stop ringing.
Link Posted: 1/28/2019 3:54:03 PM EST
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I'm 65. Ok, as you requested, here is my typed reply;  FUCK YOU you hateful scumbag! I'll bet you're a loser and your own family has trouble tolerating you.
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Careful.

I don't think we're supposed to say that here.
Link Posted: 1/28/2019 4:01:18 PM EST
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Phone calls, on the other hand, are intrusive and demand immediate attention just to make the fucking thing stop ringing.
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Bullshit. I can ignore me phone ringing just as easily as I can ignore an incoming text.

Not young, but not old BTW.
Link Posted: 1/28/2019 4:02:15 PM EST
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I send texts that say " call me back "
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*If it's that important, they would have called themselves. Imagine the audacity of this person who demands that I call them instead of calling me directly. I'm not even texting them back.
Link Posted: 1/28/2019 4:03:08 PM EST
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So call.

At the first hint of miscommunication, call.  You don't have to continue the broken conversation.
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Other people are busy too.

I watch guys thumb fucking their phone all day when calls would take half the time.  I text you...and wait...you text back without reading my text fully...I reply...and wait...you send an irritated reply that still doesn't get the point...I reply...and wait...

Or we could have a thirty second call.
So call.

At the first hint of miscommunication, call.  You don't have to continue the broken conversation.
The thread is about people that don't want to be called.
Link Posted: 1/28/2019 4:03:36 PM EST
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It's funny that people who type things out on an internet forum have trouble texting.  It's the same thing, lol.
Link Posted: 1/28/2019 4:03:46 PM EST
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First post nailed it again !!

OP =
Link Posted: 1/28/2019 4:04:34 PM EST
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... trying to leave voicemail when calling someone who specifically told you to text them?

Why are you not texting people?

Do you not like the fact that there is a transcribed document that is proof of something you said? Do you say dumb shit constantly?

Is new technology not for you? Do you have trouble tying your shoes in the morning? Do you have velcro sneakers?

Have you not talked to people in years because of this? Are you living in shame? Or do you just talk to f****** much?

What's the reason?

Please surprise me by actually typing out your response. You get double the points if you did it on your smartphone. You get triple the points if you use one you own and not your child's.
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OP,  we're is ARM ? I THINK I know,  just not sure ?
Link Posted: 1/28/2019 4:05:12 PM EST
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If you want to talk to me, "Talk to me".  Otherwise Fuck Off.   I am not here for your convenience.
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^ 100%
Link Posted: 1/28/2019 4:06:28 PM EST
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I'm curious why you think an audio recording of someone's voice is somehow less proof something they said than a text message...
Link Posted: 1/28/2019 4:10:37 PM EST
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What is this "texting" thing you speak of?

Link Posted: 1/28/2019 4:17:10 PM EST
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It's funny that people who type things out on an internet forum have trouble texting.  It's the same thing, lol.
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At least some of us know how to type the correct way, not hunt and peck and the thumb is used for the space bar!

Link Posted: 1/28/2019 4:25:19 PM EST
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Old guy here.  I hate voice mail.  It takes forever to retrieve them.  "You have 2 messages. First message, sent today at 3:42 p.m. from 123-456-7890.  Duration forty-three seconds."

I could read a message faster than that stupor induced message.
Link Posted: 1/28/2019 4:38:16 PM EST
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I own a business. Most people call us. But some text. If anyone texts i almost always call them back. I can converse with them on the phone and get and receive a tone of information in a very short period of time. I would never be able to do that over text and if I tried to text that much information we would both die of old age.

That is why I call. And I'm not a old person.
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Same here. Normally the first contact I'll make is with a call but sometimes customers prefer to text. I do get super irritated playing phone tag with customers when a lot of the time a simple text would suffice.
Link Posted: 1/28/2019 4:47:38 PM EST
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Is your text only requiring a simple reply?  I won't sit and carry on full conversations via text - that is stupid.
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Link Posted: 1/28/2019 4:55:01 PM EST
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I want to strangle people that call me to ask where I am, what I'm doing, or to tell me where they are, let alone try leaving a voice mail. This is what texting is for. I hate talking on the phone. If I had anything to tell you I'd do it in person.

Also if you try to call, I can see that you called. You don't need to leave a message saying that you called me, and I know what your fucking phone number is.
Link Posted: 1/28/2019 5:05:55 PM EST
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... trying to leave voicemail when calling someone who specifically told you to text them?

Why are you not texting people?

Do you not like the fact that there is a transcribed document that is proof of something you said? Do you say dumb shit constantly?

Is new technology not for you? Do you have trouble tying your shoes in the morning? Do you have velcro sneakers?

Have you not talked to people in years because of this? Are you living in shame? Or do you just talk to f****** much?

What's the reason?

Please surprise me by actually typing out your response. You get double the points if you did it on your smartphone. You get triple the points if you use one you own and not your child's.
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Listen, sonny:
-I'm sitting here in a house I built myself, with these two hands. I designed it, wired it, plumbed it.
-In my freezer sits an elk, big mature bull, that I bugled in and killed at 200 yds, offhand.
-I have paddled a canoe from the Yukon into the Northwest Territories, then pulled that canoe over the Richardson Mountains and paddled down into Alaska.
-I have climbed Denali. Twice.
-I have raised a family.
-I have crossed the Tibetan border, in both directions.
-I have run marathons.

From where I'm sitting, you look like a horse's ass, prattling on about your tech.
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