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Quoted: The environmental regulations are onerous to even maintain their roads - let alone trim veg. This is my field - it’s expensive to maintain because it takes forever to work through the various environmental approvals. So yes - while they are nominally allowed to trim veg, the environmental process is very expensive. View Quote Not happening = not happening. Regardless.... when people point fingers, blame, regulate and sue to the extreme - this is the result. People are going to cry either way. Me...... I'll have Coke. |
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Can they not charge one rate for urban populations, and another rate for these people with high maintenance lines? I can understand city folk not wanting to pay high rates to subsidize the people who choose to live in BFE. I'm sure the people who actually live in these areas would be happy to pay a little more to keep their lights on.
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Can they not charge one rate for urban populations, and another rate for these people with high maintenance lines? I can understand city folk not wanting to pay high rates to subsidize the people who choose to live in BFE. I'm sure the people who actually live in these areas would be happy to pay a little more to keep their lights on. View Quote |
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We will see if the electric rates increase in these staunch leftist areas when PG&E'S Diablo Canyon Nuclear Power Plant closes permanently in 2022. One more cost point for the normal masses to consider.
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We will see if the electric rates increase in these staunch leftist areas when PG&E'S Diablo Canyon Nuclear Power Plant closes permanently in 2022. One more cost point for the normal masses to consider. View Quote Getting rooftop solar is the best defense against rate increases for a lot of us. I got mine in 2010 assuming rates would go up by 8% per year, and they've gone up by more than that. |
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Yay for rats fleeing the ship at that point.
Welcome to a neighborhood near you. |
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It like usual where people post without reading the article, except this time you took it a step further and didn't even read the OP or possibly even the title. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Somehow they managed to provide power to california for decades. Either global warming is real, or this is the rolling blackouts part of transitioning to a 3rd world country |
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I wonder what is going to happen when the people get fed up with the power outages and Gov Newsome announces that the State will seize and take over running of the power companies to fix it? View Quote |
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Everyone is served by these transmission lines. EVEN the urban populations. View Quote Or are they just leaving some high risk lines operational based on the number of pissed off customers, as opposed to actual risk as stated? |
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If everyone is served by the same lines, then turning them off would turn off everyone's power. Wouldn't it? Or are they just leaving some high risk lines operational based on the number of pissed off customers, as opposed to actual risk as stated? View Quote |
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Everybody in California has solar power, don't they? This won't affect many people.
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Good for them. Suck on it California. View Quote |
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I’ll shit myself if one of those affected areas catches fire during a blackout lol
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California has far more value than say, Ohio. It just needs to be purged of leftists. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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man... that sucks bro.
at least the can afford to maintain all those homeless dopers and illegals tho... amIright? |
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Pigs Greed and Extortion
They have finally killed Reddy Kilowatt |
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watch a fire get started by some idiot trying to run a cheap generator for the first time.... View Quote |
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Lol. I will enjoy my freedoms here while the left coast struggles with which bathroom to use. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Again GD has shown the suck that is California..Trump should try and sell it back to Mexico. |
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I don't know a lot about power transmission, but it seems to me that underground lines would make sense in fire-prone areas. I'm sure the cost is high, but it's one and done as opposed to having to come back and trim vegetation every few years. View Quote |
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My thoughts... Honestly, it doesn't make sense to be turning the power on and off, given how capricious wind can be. What are the chances that they are cutting power to certain areas in order to ensure power to major cities over the weekend? You know, picking winners and losers.
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Quoted: It like usual where people post without reading the article, except this time you took it a step further and didn't even read the OP or possibly even the title. View Quote |
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Prop 65 Warning - Electricity is known to cause cancer in the state of California
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As many of you recall California blamed PG&E for last years wildfire and sued the shit out of them. I don't blame PG&E for refusal of service. Blame the old hippies.
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My kid lives in Oroville and her power is still on as of a few min ago. Sucks cause a lot of the older folks they moved from Paradise when the nursing home burned are there in Oroville still.
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regarding the clearing of vegetation from around the power line corridors
there are distances and heights around the power lines that pg&e are allowed to cut to. the problem is, there are many areas where 1 - communities around the power lines don't like pg&e from clear cutting the corridors because 'the trees provide beauty and enhance property values' 2 - the areas around some of the corridors have trees much higher than the cutting easement, so if they fall, they will pull down the power lines anyway 3 - there is more miles of corridors they have to maintain than what they can afford to fund, based on what charges they can pass on to customers by the utility rate commission and most importantly, the heavily forested areas around the power line corridors have lots of fuel loads that have not been cleared for years, due to tree cutting and lumbering restrictions. don't allow people to cut forested areas or clear the underbrush, means lots more to burn in a lot of areas, and as they die, you get a lot of dead timber that builds up and isn't cleared away. prescribed burns would decrease some of this fuel load, and clear away a lot of fuel, but there are air quality restrictions on how much and when you can burn, so much of the stuff never gets permitted to be burned. over the years, instead of fires that can be easily managed, you get fire that breaks out, becoming huge wildfires, because of how much fuel there is to burn. pg&e was ordered to do an extensive clearing and inspection of it's lines and corridors. at the beginning of the year, pg&e complained, citing this California utility company PG&E said in a court filing Wednesday that it can't afford a federal judge's order to inspect its energy grid and clear trees that could fall into its power lines, work it estimates would cost between $75 billion and $150 billion.
The company told the U.S. District Court in San Francisco that the judge's so-called vegetation management plan would force it to dramatically increase the rates it charges customers to employ more than 650,000 full-time workers. "PG&E would inevitably need to turn to California ratepayers for funding, resulting in a substantial increase an estimated one-year increase of more than five times current rates in typical utility bills," it said in the filing. The work was proposed in a Jan. 9 order by U.S. District Judge William Alsup. View Quote alsup in april ordered pg&e to cease issuing dividends, and direct all funds toward implementing this vegetation management plan. basically, alsup will end up driving pg&e into further forms of bankruptcy until it broken up and sold off |
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Somehow they managed to provide power to california for decades. Either global warming is real, or this is the rolling blackouts part of transitioning to a 3rd world country View Quote |
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Needs more sky saw. Can’t be too expensive...
Trimming trees by power line with helicopter |
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I think the problem is California will not allow saws like this. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Home use generators will be banned by the state.
Give everyone that has a power outage AOC's personal phone number, to tell them what they think of their New Green Deal. |
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Somehow they managed to provide power to california for decades. Either global warming is real, or this is the rolling blackouts part of transitioning to a 3rd world country |
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The power company was successfully sued for starting fires last year. They are responding to.that View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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