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Posted: 9/26/2023 10:17:31 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I would agree Putin and the atrocities in Ukraine are a much bigger concern than this minor issue. But does pursuing Justice on this 98-year-old man for war crimes undermine Ukraine in any way? I don't think it does. It doesn't seem like a pick one and ignore the other kind of equation. It's even possible that bringing attention and prosecuting a war crime will make people consider what's going on in Ukraine in the same light. If he actually engaged in war crimes then he should be prosecuted. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: This is a manufactured drama. Don’t fall for it. Don’t perpetuate it. The ex-Nazi is 98 years old-soon to be dead. All the other Nazis are long gone. This is an Ex-Issue. Today, the world has the same evil of Putinism to confront. We don’t need to dredge up fake demons, when we have real live/real time demons who need to be stopped. Disagree . War crimes are war crimes . And I don't believe there is a time limit on prosecutions for war crimes . It is not an Ex issue . The old bastard should not go to his grave being glorified . He is not a fake demon as you say . gd “Fake demons” meaning “Fake issue”. Ze Nazis were entirely and completely defeated in 1945. Every last one was Dead, imprisoned, forgiven, or in hiding. My dad was alive for it, but very few remain, who were. His dad, actually fought real live Nazis. This modern focus on Nazi-terror is beyond ridiculous, when there are people like Putin and supporters literally murdering people wholesale Today, at this very moment. I would agree Putin and the atrocities in Ukraine are a much bigger concern than this minor issue. But does pursuing Justice on this 98-year-old man for war crimes undermine Ukraine in any way? I don't think it does. It doesn't seem like a pick one and ignore the other kind of equation. It's even possible that bringing attention and prosecuting a war crime will make people consider what's going on in Ukraine in the same light. If he actually engaged in war crimes then he should be prosecuted. Sure. Give him a quick trial and Execute him. What I was saying, is that the fate of a 98 year old ex-Nazi has no bearing on today’s world. These panicked Putin bois are all excited about a 98 year old Nazi, because they think it excuses the evil and deliberate destruction of an entire Nation. They’ve been brainwashed into a disgusting ideology. The brainwashing doesn’t excuse it though. Deep down, they know they are supporting evil. |
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Posted: 9/26/2023 10:27:45 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Cowardice is thinking that servicing justice to a Nazi is silly because he’s X years old. Equivocation is equating the German government, which was technically defeated on May 8th, 1945, with all Nazi soldiers, many of whom lived beyond the end of the war and were brought to bear for their crimes despite the war being over. By your logic, the Nuremberg Trials were silly because your grandfathers had already defeated Germany. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Uke-bros all butt-hurt lol. He's going to stand trial in Poland if/when he's extradited. He can be exonerated or convicted there. Every Nazi or SS soldier/civilian in a unit known to have committed war crimes should be tried. How on earth do you figure this to be a win for Putin's minions? Go ahead and explain why the Uke bros are supposed to be hurt by this? Open question to any of you. Why is this a big celebration for the Putin bois? But I see that almost the entire Ukebro brigade has arrived to argue against extradition proceedings for a former SS soldier. If someone had told me 3 years ago that we'd have a group of arfcommers arguing against looking into a member of the SS because the investigation might embarrass the prime minister of Ukraine I would have laughed for 5 minutes straight. There are at least 4 full time dedicated Putin trolls, and about 30 sycophants who lap up everything they post. If you haven't noticed, you better look in the mirror. The bolded part: That didn't happen, as far as I can see. I might have missed a post or two though. Post the quote which says that. I guess there are semantics games to play, but I don't really want to anymore. Quoted:This is a manufactured drama. Don't fall for it. Don't perpetuate it. The ex-Nazi is 98 years old-soon to be dead. All the other Nazis are long gone. This is an Ex-Issue. Today, the world has the same evil of Putinism to confront. We don't need to dredge up fake demons, when we have real live/real time demons who need to be stopped. Thanks for quoting me. I’m glad it made an impression. Fact 1. All 98 year old men will very soon be Dead. Fact 2. The Nazis were defeated by my Grandfather’s generation, nearly 80 years ago. Putinism is Today’s evil, which must me confronted by Our generation. Which of these simple facts do you dispute? No changing the subject. No cowardly equivocation. Speak your truth. Cowardice is thinking that servicing justice to a Nazi is silly because he’s X years old. Equivocation is equating the German government, which was technically defeated on May 8th, 1945, with all Nazi soldiers, many of whom lived beyond the end of the war and were brought to bear for their crimes despite the war being over. By your logic, the Nuremberg Trials were silly because your grandfathers had already defeated Germany. None of what you typed makes any sense at all. Your reading comprehension is abysmal. I’m not saying don’t punish him. Fast and fair trial and string him up. Good enough? Stop pretending like you’re so panicked about Nazis. You know damned well it’s a non-issue. Now, let the Other guy respond. Or, log in as him, and do it the right way. |
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Posted: 9/26/2023 10:52:43 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah pretty standard stuff huh.  I hope all Allied aircrews who participated in strategic bombing got right with God before they passed, that would weigh heavy on my soul. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I suppose we should also extradite all our surviving B29 crew members to Japan for all the fire bombings and nuking of Japanese civilians. Or does that not count? The hypocrisy sickens me. maybe if the Jews or Polish people attacked Germany and declared war on them it would have been similar. bombing cities was pretty standard warfare at the time. rounding up civilians and burning them to death was not. Yeah pretty standard stuff huh. I hope all Allied aircrews who participated in strategic bombing got right with God before they passed, that would weigh heavy on my soul. Are you serious? When did we become such effeminate cowards? |
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Posted: 9/26/2023 10:55:14 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thanks for quoting me. I'm glad it made an impression. Fact 1. All 98 year old men will very soon be Dead. Fact 2. The Nazis were defeated by my Grandfather's generation, nearly 80 years ago. Putinism is Today's evil, which must me confronted by Our generation. Which of these simple facts do you dispute? No changing the subject. No cowardly equivocation. Speak your truth. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Uke-bros all butt-hurt lol. He's going to stand trial in Poland if/when he's extradited. He can be exonerated or convicted there. Every Nazi or SS soldier/civilian in a unit known to have committed war crimes should be tried. How on earth do you figure this to be a win for Putin's minions? Go ahead and explain why the Uke bros are supposed to be hurt by this? Open question to any of you. Why is this a big celebration for the Putin bois? But I see that almost the entire Ukebro brigade has arrived to argue against extradition proceedings for a former SS soldier. If someone had told me 3 years ago that we'd have a group of arfcommers arguing against looking into a member of the SS because the investigation might embarrass the prime minister of Ukraine I would have laughed for 5 minutes straight. There are at least 4 full time dedicated Putin trolls, and about 30 sycophants who lap up everything they post. If you haven't noticed, you better look in the mirror. The bolded part: That didn't happen, as far as I can see. I might have missed a post or two though. Post the quote which says that. I guess there are semantics games to play, but I don't really want to anymore. Quoted:This is a manufactured drama. Don't fall for it. Don't perpetuate it. The ex-Nazi is 98 years old-soon to be dead. All the other Nazis are long gone. This is an Ex-Issue. Today, the world has the same evil of Putinism to confront. We don't need to dredge up fake demons, when we have real live/real time demons who need to be stopped. Thanks for quoting me. I'm glad it made an impression. Fact 1. All 98 year old men will very soon be Dead. Fact 2. The Nazis were defeated by my Grandfather's generation, nearly 80 years ago. Putinism is Today's evil, which must me confronted by Our generation. Which of these simple facts do you dispute? No changing the subject. No cowardly equivocation. Speak your truth. lol |
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Posted: 9/26/2023 10:55:20 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: "a Canadian is a Canadian is a Canadian.." Trudeau and the Liberals will protect this Nazi. |
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Posted: 9/26/2023 10:58:08 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Good lord, it’s like feeding time at the zoo. A cacophony of chirps, screams and guttural noises, but no logic or reason. The naive Putin bois should be ashamed of themselves. We should be grateful this is the only thing they can celebrate right now. Just getting down to brass tacks here, can you provide a list of the evil Putin bois? Because I'm certain it will just include regular members who don't gargle Ukrainian propaganda dick. Jlaudio and sketti are the only possible ones I can think of. And even I'm not sure they're pro Putin. Everyone else are Americans sick of your shit and your little clubhouse where dissent is swiftly booted. You are so tied up with slobba ukraini that you can't even hate a waffen ss member whose unit murdered poles. Can you just like for once, sit back and give that a good thought or are you just going to keep shitting words as usual? I'm guessing the latter but it's worth a shot |
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Posted: 9/26/2023 11:00:47 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Are you serious? When did we become such effeminate cowards? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I suppose we should also extradite all our surviving B29 crew members to Japan for all the fire bombings and nuking of Japanese civilians. Or does that not count? The hypocrisy sickens me. maybe if the Jews or Polish people attacked Germany and declared war on them it would have been similar. bombing cities was pretty standard warfare at the time. rounding up civilians and burning them to death was not. Yeah pretty standard stuff huh. I hope all Allied aircrews who participated in strategic bombing got right with God before they passed, that would weigh heavy on my soul. Are you serious? When did we become such effeminate cowards? Effeminate cowards? I would think pretty highly of a man who would have the moral courage to refuse unlawful orders to firebomb civilians and risk the firing squad. Now that would be true moral courage. |
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Posted: 9/26/2023 11:01:00 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: None of what you typed makes any sense at all. Your reading comprehension is abysmal. I’m not saying don’t punish him. Fast and fair trial and string him up. Good enough? Stop pretending like you’re so panicked about Nazis. You know damned well it’s a non-issue. Now, let the Other guy respond. Or, log in as him, and do it the right way. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Uke-bros all butt-hurt lol. He's going to stand trial in Poland if/when he's extradited. He can be exonerated or convicted there. Every Nazi or SS soldier/civilian in a unit known to have committed war crimes should be tried. How on earth do you figure this to be a win for Putin's minions? Go ahead and explain why the Uke bros are supposed to be hurt by this? Open question to any of you. Why is this a big celebration for the Putin bois? But I see that almost the entire Ukebro brigade has arrived to argue against extradition proceedings for a former SS soldier. If someone had told me 3 years ago that we'd have a group of arfcommers arguing against looking into a member of the SS because the investigation might embarrass the prime minister of Ukraine I would have laughed for 5 minutes straight. There are at least 4 full time dedicated Putin trolls, and about 30 sycophants who lap up everything they post. If you haven't noticed, you better look in the mirror. The bolded part: That didn't happen, as far as I can see. I might have missed a post or two though. Post the quote which says that. I guess there are semantics games to play, but I don't really want to anymore. Quoted:This is a manufactured drama. Don't fall for it. Don't perpetuate it. The ex-Nazi is 98 years old-soon to be dead. All the other Nazis are long gone. This is an Ex-Issue. Today, the world has the same evil of Putinism to confront. We don't need to dredge up fake demons, when we have real live/real time demons who need to be stopped. Thanks for quoting me. I’m glad it made an impression. Fact 1. All 98 year old men will very soon be Dead. Fact 2. The Nazis were defeated by my Grandfather’s generation, nearly 80 years ago. Putinism is Today’s evil, which must me confronted by Our generation. Which of these simple facts do you dispute? No changing the subject. No cowardly equivocation. Speak your truth. Cowardice is thinking that servicing justice to a Nazi is silly because he’s X years old. Equivocation is equating the German government, which was technically defeated on May 8th, 1945, with all Nazi soldiers, many of whom lived beyond the end of the war and were brought to bear for their crimes despite the war being over. By your logic, the Nuremberg Trials were silly because your grandfathers had already defeated Germany. None of what you typed makes any sense at all. Your reading comprehension is abysmal. I’m not saying don’t punish him. Fast and fair trial and string him up. Good enough? Stop pretending like you’re so panicked about Nazis. You know damned well it’s a non-issue. Now, let the Other guy respond. Or, log in as him, and do it the right way. You’re not saying don’t punish him? You showed up on page one saying the whole thing is stupid and an “ex-issue.” So which is it? And I’m not “panicked” by Nazis. I just think they should all be shot regardless of how old they are. I don’t care if they’re on death’s door. And I don’t think that it’s a “non-issue” by a long shot. I’ll remember to call you up someday when Russian thugs are 98 years old being extradited to Ukraine and remind you that it’s a nothingburger and you’re a retard for caring about it. Brb logging in as whatshisface 
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Posted: 9/26/2023 11:01:11 PM EST
[#9]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't care how old he is. He should spend the last moments of his life in a cage Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: This is a manufactured drama. Don't fall for it. Don't perpetuate it. The ex-Nazi is 98 years old-soon to be dead. All the other Nazis are long gone. This is an Ex-Issue. Today, the world has the same evil of Putinism to confront. We don't need to dredge up fake demons, when we have real live/real time demons who need to be stopped. According to Wiki only a few subunits of the 14th were implicated in war crimes . I think the Poles are just looking to rub salt in Trudeau's wounds and simultaneously embarrass Zelenskyy; I don't think they actually have anything concrete on him. |
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Posted: 9/26/2023 11:02:37 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is there any evidence that he actually participated in war crimes? Aside from simply being in the Waffen SS, that is. According to Wiki only a few subunits of the 14th were implicated in war crimes . I think the Poles are just looking to rub salt in Trudeau's wounds and simultaneously embarrass Zelenskyy; I don't think they actually have anything concrete on him. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: This is a manufactured drama. Don't fall for it. Don't perpetuate it. The ex-Nazi is 98 years old-soon to be dead. All the other Nazis are long gone. This is an Ex-Issue. Today, the world has the same evil of Putinism to confront. We don't need to dredge up fake demons, when we have real live/real time demons who need to be stopped. According to Wiki only a few subunits of the 14th were implicated in war crimes . I think the Poles are just looking to rub salt in Trudeau's wounds and simultaneously embarrass Zelenskyy; I don't think they actually have anything concrete on him. Ukebros were slobbing the fuck out of polish knob until Poland actually stood up for themselves and started getting out of this mess. Makes ya think Poland cares about their own country. As they should. And they're neighbors to evil Putin. We should follow suit. |
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Posted: 9/26/2023 11:11:07 PM EST
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This is nuts! Not every Nazi / SS soldier committed war crimes, most these guys fought for thier country and followed orders as any soldier would.
How would folks react today to Lauri Törni (Larry Thorne)? If you don't know him do a quick search. Some Nazis just like to kill commies! |
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Posted: 9/26/2023 11:15:09 PM EST
[#12]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You’re not saying don’t punish him? You showed up on page one saying the whole thing is stupid and an “ex-issue.” So which is it? And I’m not “panicked” by Nazis. I just think they should all be shot regardless of how old they are. I don’t care if they’re on death’s door. And I don’t think that it’s a “non-issue” by a long shot. I’ll remember to call you up someday when Russian thugs are 98 years old being extradited to Ukraine and remind you that it’s a nothingburger and you’re a retard for caring about it. Brb logging in as whatshisface Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Uke-bros all butt-hurt lol. He's going to stand trial in Poland if/when he's extradited. He can be exonerated or convicted there. Every Nazi or SS soldier/civilian in a unit known to have committed war crimes should be tried. How on earth do you figure this to be a win for Putin's minions? Go ahead and explain why the Uke bros are supposed to be hurt by this? Open question to any of you. Why is this a big celebration for the Putin bois? But I see that almost the entire Ukebro brigade has arrived to argue against extradition proceedings for a former SS soldier. If someone had told me 3 years ago that we'd have a group of arfcommers arguing against looking into a member of the SS because the investigation might embarrass the prime minister of Ukraine I would have laughed for 5 minutes straight. There are at least 4 full time dedicated Putin trolls, and about 30 sycophants who lap up everything they post. If you haven't noticed, you better look in the mirror. The bolded part: That didn't happen, as far as I can see. I might have missed a post or two though. Post the quote which says that. I guess there are semantics games to play, but I don't really want to anymore. Quoted:This is a manufactured drama. Don't fall for it. Don't perpetuate it. The ex-Nazi is 98 years old-soon to be dead. All the other Nazis are long gone. This is an Ex-Issue. Today, the world has the same evil of Putinism to confront. We don't need to dredge up fake demons, when we have real live/real time demons who need to be stopped. Thanks for quoting me. I’m glad it made an impression. Fact 1. All 98 year old men will very soon be Dead. Fact 2. The Nazis were defeated by my Grandfather’s generation, nearly 80 years ago. Putinism is Today’s evil, which must me confronted by Our generation. Which of these simple facts do you dispute? No changing the subject. No cowardly equivocation. Speak your truth. Cowardice is thinking that servicing justice to a Nazi is silly because he’s X years old. Equivocation is equating the German government, which was technically defeated on May 8th, 1945, with all Nazi soldiers, many of whom lived beyond the end of the war and were brought to bear for their crimes despite the war being over. By your logic, the Nuremberg Trials were silly because your grandfathers had already defeated Germany. None of what you typed makes any sense at all. Your reading comprehension is abysmal. I’m not saying don’t punish him. Fast and fair trial and string him up. Good enough? Stop pretending like you’re so panicked about Nazis. You know damned well it’s a non-issue. Now, let the Other guy respond. Or, log in as him, and do it the right way. You’re not saying don’t punish him? You showed up on page one saying the whole thing is stupid and an “ex-issue.” So which is it? And I’m not “panicked” by Nazis. I just think they should all be shot regardless of how old they are. I don’t care if they’re on death’s door. And I don’t think that it’s a “non-issue” by a long shot. I’ll remember to call you up someday when Russian thugs are 98 years old being extradited to Ukraine and remind you that it’s a nothingburger and you’re a retard for caring about it. Brb logging in as whatshisface If anyone worried about a Ukrainian who saw his people get starved so bad under communism that they resorted to cannibalism and then joined the SS for some payback, then you are indeed a leftist who is panicked over Nazis behind every bush. There is no other excuse for such pearl clutching. I can't believe people have literally no concept or understanding why the people who suffered the worst under communism wouldn't give a flying fuck about war crimes on partisans trying to reimpose the same govt that starved them and tortured them and executed them. But then again, most of arfcom is too principled to even stand up to their own children's futures being destroyed so maybe a lot of people here really wouldn't relate to someone who didn't like seeing his country being starved to death and tried to stop it instead of just bitching about it and shaking his fist at the sky. He should have just made internet posts or whatever the technological equivalent was. I know when my family gets starved to death, a strongly worded post will be how I fight back. No violence for me thankyouvery much, but just imagine if roles were reversed! 
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Posted: 9/26/2023 11:18:26 PM EST
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Trudy will say it was all an elaborate trap - like when the cops call the fugitives to tell them they won a flatscreen TV, then arrest them when they show up.
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Posted: 9/26/2023 11:21:38 PM EST
[#14]
snip, uncalled for
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Posted: 9/26/2023 11:27:22 PM EST
[#15]
I can find zero evidence this guy's unit committed any war crimes. No one seems to have any specific accusations against him.
People need to get a fucking life. |
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Posted: 9/26/2023 11:33:57 PM EST
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I can find zero evidence this guy's unit committed any war crimes. No one seems to have any specific accusations against him. People need to get a fucking life. Plus he's become a convenient tool for the Poles to stick it to Zelenskyy, who apparently has worn out his welcome in Warsaw. I agree that he shouldn't be extradited unless the Poles can produce actual evidence of his alleged crimes, but at this point it's an international political circus and no longer just a question of guilt or innocence. |
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Posted: 9/26/2023 11:48:24 PM EST
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: False premise. There are no Putin Bois. But I see that almost the entire Ukebro brigade has arrived to argue against extradition proceedings for a former SS soldier. If someone had told me 3 years ago that we'd have a group of arfcommers arguing against looking into a member of the SS because the investigation might embarrass the prime minister of Ukraine I would have laughed for 5 minutes straight. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Uke-bros all butt-hurt lol. He's going to stand trial in Poland if/when he's extradited. He can be exonerated or convicted there. Every Nazi or SS soldier/civilian in a unit known to have committed war crimes should be tried. How on earth do you figure this to be a win for Putin's minions? Go ahead and explain why the Uke bros are supposed to be hurt by this? Open question to any of you. Why is this a big celebration for the Putin bois? But I see that almost the entire Ukebro brigade has arrived to argue against extradition proceedings for a former SS soldier. If someone had told me 3 years ago that we'd have a group of arfcommers arguing against looking into a member of the SS because the investigation might embarrass the prime minister of Ukraine I would have laughed for 5 minutes straight. Crazy ain't it. Arfcommers defending Nazis. This war has ruined this place. Of course the Ukebros will accuse anyone who believes that the Nazi should face justice will be declared putin puffers. |
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Posted: 9/26/2023 11:48:52 PM EST
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This is a manufactured drama. Don’t fall for it. Don’t perpetuate it. The ex-Nazi is 98 years old-soon to be dead. All the other Nazis are long gone. This is an Ex-Issue. Today, the world has the same evil of Putinism to confront. We don’t need to dredge up fake demons, when we have real live/real time demons who need to be stopped. Wow, I'd guess you'd feel different had you lost family members to assholes like him. |
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Posted: 9/26/2023 11:50:46 PM EST
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Good The only good Nazi is a dead Nazi there are NAZIs that went on to serve in the US military. People change and some just really hated the communists |
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Posted: 9/26/2023 11:51:52 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Many here and in the media are very ignorant about what the Galicia SS was. It was NOT a typical German SS unit, it was a military unit ONLY used only for front line combat. Ukrainians that joined pledged: - ONLY to fight Russian communists since Russia just a few years earlier deported 300,000 Ukrainians to die in Siberia AND Stalin murdersd between 7 - 12 million Ukrainians in the Holodomor in 1931, the largest genocide by famine in order to wipe out Ukrainian history, ethnicity, culture, and language (something that was going on for hundreds of years between Muscovites/Russians and Kyivan-Rus people/Ukrainians). - Ukrainians stated that they are NEVER to be positioned to fight ANY Allied force (and in the rare instance where they wound up faced off with one like France, they surrendered), and they never fought the Allies - The SS Galicia funneled weapons to the Ukrainian Insurgent Army which was fighting and killing the Russians AND the Germans - At one point, SS Galicia Units joined the Ukrainian Insurgent Army in mass - The Ukrainian SS Galicia were NOT political Nazis nor did they consider themselves Nazis (Nazis killed over 2 million Ukrainians in WW2, my family wound up in a German camp and their home, business, and farm were taken) - the Russians HATED Ukrainians and their partisan groups so as they say, the victors write the history and they did- filled with lies about Ukrainians I won't list a bunch of books about this because ARFCOM is book/reading phobic, but here is one interview which may be of interest:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOQHS0EPDc0Next you will tell us the Ukranians are actually a lost tribe of Israel. |
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Posted: 9/26/2023 11:55:02 PM EST
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: i definitely agree that the only good commie is a dead commie. the commie's were actually worse than the nazi's. There it is, the truth. Communist is far worse than Nazi and Nazi is really evil. Communist = Liberal = Progressive = Green = ... |
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Posted: 9/26/2023 11:56:19 PM EST
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This is a manufactured drama. Don’t fall for it. Don’t perpetuate it. The ex-Nazi is 98 years old-soon to be dead. All the other Nazis are long gone. This is an Ex-Issue. Today, the world has the same evil of Putinism to confront. We don’t need to dredge up fake demons, when we have real live/real time demons who need to be stopped. Also true. Old Nazi is a distractor by Poland. |
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Posted: 9/27/2023 12:01:34 AM EST
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Just getting down to brass tacks here, can you provide a list of the evil Putin bois? Because I'm certain it will just include regular members who don't gargle Ukrainian propaganda dick. Jlaudio and sketti are the only possible ones I can think of. And even I'm not sure they're pro Putin. Everyone else are Americans sick of your shit and your little clubhouse where dissent is swiftly booted. You are so tied up with slobba ukraini that you can't even hate a waffen ss member whose unit murdered poles. Can you just like for once, sit back and give that a good thought or are you just going to keep shitting words as usual? I'm guessing the latter but it's worth a shot Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Good lord, it’s like feeding time at the zoo. A cacophony of chirps, screams and guttural noises, but no logic or reason. The naive Putin bois should be ashamed of themselves. We should be grateful this is the only thing they can celebrate right now. Just getting down to brass tacks here, can you provide a list of the evil Putin bois? Because I'm certain it will just include regular members who don't gargle Ukrainian propaganda dick. Jlaudio and sketti are the only possible ones I can think of. And even I'm not sure they're pro Putin. Everyone else are Americans sick of your shit and your little clubhouse where dissent is swiftly booted. You are so tied up with slobba ukraini that you can't even hate a waffen ss member whose unit murdered poles. Can you just like for once, sit back and give that a good thought or are you just going to keep shitting words as usual? I'm guessing the latter but it's worth a shot You correctly identified two, there are a couple more. Naming them is considered a “callout”. …And then there are the sycophants who cheer them on. I’m not one of the active contributors in the big thread, but thank you for crediting me. Putin is evil, and those who support him are evil. It’s a simple Fact, and I don’t care that it offends you. None of this should be the least bit controversial. |
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Posted: 9/27/2023 12:03:30 AM EST
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You’re not saying don’t punish him? You showed up on page one saying the whole thing is stupid and an “ex-issue.” So which is it? And I’m not “panicked” by Nazis. I just think they should all be shot regardless of how old they are. I don’t care if they’re on death’s door. And I don’t think that it’s a “non-issue” by a long shot. I’ll remember to call you up someday when Russian thugs are 98 years old being extradited to Ukraine and remind you that it’s a nothingburger and you’re a retard for caring about it. Brb logging in as whatshisface Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Uke-bros all butt-hurt lol. He's going to stand trial in Poland if/when he's extradited. He can be exonerated or convicted there. Every Nazi or SS soldier/civilian in a unit known to have committed war crimes should be tried. How on earth do you figure this to be a win for Putin's minions? Go ahead and explain why the Uke bros are supposed to be hurt by this? Open question to any of you. Why is this a big celebration for the Putin bois? But I see that almost the entire Ukebro brigade has arrived to argue against extradition proceedings for a former SS soldier. If someone had told me 3 years ago that we'd have a group of arfcommers arguing against looking into a member of the SS because the investigation might embarrass the prime minister of Ukraine I would have laughed for 5 minutes straight. There are at least 4 full time dedicated Putin trolls, and about 30 sycophants who lap up everything they post. If you haven't noticed, you better look in the mirror. The bolded part: That didn't happen, as far as I can see. I might have missed a post or two though. Post the quote which says that. I guess there are semantics games to play, but I don't really want to anymore. Quoted:This is a manufactured drama. Don't fall for it. Don't perpetuate it. The ex-Nazi is 98 years old-soon to be dead. All the other Nazis are long gone. This is an Ex-Issue. Today, the world has the same evil of Putinism to confront. We don't need to dredge up fake demons, when we have real live/real time demons who need to be stopped. Thanks for quoting me. I’m glad it made an impression. Fact 1. All 98 year old men will very soon be Dead. Fact 2. The Nazis were defeated by my Grandfather’s generation, nearly 80 years ago. Putinism is Today’s evil, which must me confronted by Our generation. Which of these simple facts do you dispute? No changing the subject. No cowardly equivocation. Speak your truth. Cowardice is thinking that servicing justice to a Nazi is silly because he’s X years old. Equivocation is equating the German government, which was technically defeated on May 8th, 1945, with all Nazi soldiers, many of whom lived beyond the end of the war and were brought to bear for their crimes despite the war being over. By your logic, the Nuremberg Trials were silly because your grandfathers had already defeated Germany. None of what you typed makes any sense at all. Your reading comprehension is abysmal. I’m not saying don’t punish him. Fast and fair trial and string him up. Good enough? Stop pretending like you’re so panicked about Nazis. You know damned well it’s a non-issue. Now, let the Other guy respond. Or, log in as him, and do it the right way. You’re not saying don’t punish him? You showed up on page one saying the whole thing is stupid and an “ex-issue.” So which is it? And I’m not “panicked” by Nazis. I just think they should all be shot regardless of how old they are. I don’t care if they’re on death’s door. And I don’t think that it’s a “non-issue” by a long shot. I’ll remember to call you up someday when Russian thugs are 98 years old being extradited to Ukraine and remind you that it’s a nothingburger and you’re a retard for caring about it. Brb logging in as whatshisface I’m saying PUNISH HIM. BIG NAZIS NEED BIG PUNISHMENT. Jfc guys.  . Punish ze Nazi!
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Posted: 9/27/2023 12:07:08 AM EST
[#25]
If they convict him of war crimes, they should hang him. His age should not come into play.
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Posted: 9/27/2023 12:07:15 AM EST
[#26]
I am disappoint that the hive seems to want to look the other way on this. Seems like justice doesn't matter if you were able get away with something 70 years. Maybe we should send the man a gift cert for a spa day and a nice gift basket full of shower items, a sturdy shovel, a gas can, and a zippo.
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Posted: 9/27/2023 12:09:19 AM EST
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Wow, I'd guess you'd feel different had you lost family members to assholes like him. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: This is a manufactured drama. Don’t fall for it. Don’t perpetuate it. The ex-Nazi is 98 years old-soon to be dead. All the other Nazis are long gone. This is an Ex-Issue. Today, the world has the same evil of Putinism to confront. We don’t need to dredge up fake demons, when we have real live/real time demons who need to be stopped. Wow, I'd guess you'd feel different had you lost family members to assholes like him. I did. JFC this was covered in detail a couple pages ago. Give him a quick trial, and put me on the firing squad.  I wasn’t defending him, I was pointing out that he’s 98 years old, and (probably) not immortal. How many 99 year olds do you personally know? |
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Posted: 9/27/2023 12:11:10 AM EST
[#28]
I bet his ball sack hits the floor before his feet (being old and all)
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Posted: 9/27/2023 12:15:03 AM EST
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I am disappoint that the hive seems to want to look the other way on this. Seems like justice doesn't matter if you were able get away with something 70 years. Maybe we should send the man a gift cert for a spa day and a nice gift basket full of shower items, a sturdy shovel, a gas can, and a zippo. How on earth are you going to punish him, when he’ll die of old age before you can tie the noose? It’s not that Justice doesn’t matter, it’s that Justice is literally impossible, except for hanging his tarred and desiccated corpse in a gibbot. (Which by the way, I would also be in favor of).  |
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Posted: 9/27/2023 12:21:37 AM EST
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I am disappoint that the hive seems to want to look the other way on this. Seems like justice doesn't matter if you were able get away with something 70 years. Maybe we should send the man a gift cert for a spa day and a nice gift basket full of shower items, a sturdy shovel, a gas can, and a zippo. It would be easier to assume he was automatically guilty of atrocities if he were Totenkopfverbande , but he's not. And even if he were, no one wants another embarrassing John Demjanjuk situation where someone gets extradited based on flimsy evidence, only to get the charges thrown out. |
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Posted: 9/27/2023 12:24:01 AM EST
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Just because he got away with it all this time doesn't mean he shouldn't swing... Fuck him. At his age, the drop should be eventful. Got away with what? What did he do, or are you and half the people here so simple-minded to assume anyone in a German uniform was a nazi? |
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Posted: 9/27/2023 12:27:26 AM EST
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Interesting isn't it. I'm amazed at the liberal pieces of trash who throw the term nazi around, yet are too damn stupid to know what it means. |
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Posted: 9/27/2023 12:28:11 AM EST
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I can find zero evidence this guy's unit committed any war crimes. No one seems to have any specific accusations against him. People need to get a fucking life. If that is the case then it should be dropped. Ridiculous waste of time. If that is in fact the case. |
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Posted: 9/27/2023 12:34:14 AM EST
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If that is the case then it should be dropped. Ridiculous waste of time. If that is in fact the case. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I can find zero evidence this guy's unit committed any war crimes. No one seems to have any specific accusations against him. People need to get a fucking life. If that is the case then it should be dropped. Ridiculous waste of time. If that is in fact the case. It's more of a way to officially express their displeasure with the Ukrainians than to punish war criminals, so actual evidence has little to do with it. The poor guy got screwed over by thinking Trudeau and Zelenskyy actually honored and respected him, only to find out that Fidelito and Z-man have no loyalty to anyone besides themselves. |
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Posted: 9/27/2023 12:36:32 AM EST
[#35]
I guess the Soviets get a free pass for Katryn and occupying Poland for 48 years.
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Posted: 9/27/2023 12:44:10 AM EST
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: ummm...you do realize we've been arming, training and funding NAZIs in Ukraine right? not "neo-nazi'" loud and proud nazis!  so fucking dumb.
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Posted: 9/27/2023 12:47:07 AM EST
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I guess the Soviets get a free pass for Katryn and occupying Poland for 48 years. Nope, the Poles hate them just as much if not moreso. It's a place with a very long memory and if they get the chance to put the screws to anyone that might have fucked them over in the past they're going to take it and rightly so, age be damned. |
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Posted: 9/27/2023 7:13:54 AM EST
[#38]
People love to react to the word Nazi and SS.
Thankfully the U.S. military has never committed any war crimes! I wonder how Native Americans look at this topic or just about every war we have ever been involved in officially or not so officially. Only the losing side has war criminals, everyone else has heros and patriots. We have committed war crimes on every front from the beginning of time, some of those needed to happen in order to end war and to send a solid message. I really doubt this kid did anything other that kill Russians he was around 18 or so when he joined and there is no evidence that the 14th SS committed any war crimes. |
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Posted: 9/27/2023 7:57:23 AM EST
[#39]
Watching the Ukebros contort themselves to defend this Nazi is highly entertaining and shows just how far around the bend they are.
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Posted: 9/27/2023 8:12:24 AM EST
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Nope, the Poles hate them just as much if not moreso. It's a place with a very long memory and if they get the chance to put the screws to anyone that might have fucked them over in the past they're going to take it and rightly so, age be damned. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I guess the Soviets get a free pass for Katryn and occupying Poland for 48 years. Nope, the Poles hate them just as much if not moreso. It's a place with a very long memory and if they get the chance to put the screws to anyone that might have fucked them over in the past they're going to take it and rightly so, age be damned. Yep. The Poles haven't forgottedn the Ukrainian genocide against the Poles in Volhynia and Eastern Galicia either, which is why the aid program generated some controversy in Poland from the outset. |
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Posted: 9/27/2023 8:20:22 AM EST
[#41]
Did any other member of his division get convicted of any “war crime”?
As far as I can tell, the answer is “no.” How and why would you now put this guy on trial, who was 18-19 years old at the time, if none of the leadership in his entire division ever got prosecuted? |
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Posted: 9/27/2023 11:12:54 AM EST
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Watching the Ukebros contort themselves to defend this Nazi is highly entertaining and shows just how far around the bend they are. Makes you wonder what impact Zelensky honoring a SS Nazi will have on future support from Poland.  " />
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Posted: 9/27/2023 11:58:03 AM EST
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This is a manufactured drama. Don’t fall for it. Don’t perpetuate it. The ex-Nazi is 98 years old-soon to be dead. All the other Nazis are long gone. This is an Ex-Issue. Today, the world has the same evil of Putinism to confront. We don’t need to dredge up fake demons, when we have real live/real time demons who need to be stopped. It's ok. American Patriots need to adopt LOOOONG memories so that revenge can be enacted long after America's end to punish those that manufactured our demise and bring them to the justice they deserve afterwards. Revenge is a dish best served cold. |
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Posted: 9/27/2023 12:00:49 PM EST
[#44]
Quote HistoryYes. Hitler and Stalin were both violent thieves. All governments go bad because they reflect the thieving nature of mankind. They inevitably become instruments of plunder. Our way of life is being stolen from us now by violent thieving criminal liars and we do nothing. |
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Posted: 9/27/2023 12:03:00 PM EST
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: People love to react to the word Nazi and SS. Thankfully the U.S. military has never committed any war crimes! I wonder how Native Americans look at this topic or just about every war we have ever been involved in officially or not so officially. Only the losing side has war criminals, everyone else has heros and patriots. We have committed war crimes on every front from the beginning of time, some of those needed to happen in order to end war and to send a solid message. I really doubt this kid did anything other that kill Russians he was around 18 or so when he joined and there is no evidence that the 14th SS committed any war crimes. Wearing dat swastika and dem runes has consequences? |
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Posted: 9/27/2023 12:31:34 PM EST
[#46]
The Ukraine and Russia war is completely irrelevant. That’s just distractions for fools.
Old dude volunteered for the Waffen SS, he wasn’t forced or conscripted, he went willingly by his own choice. He knew exactly what he was doing and should be treated as what he is; a willing accomplice to Nazi atrocities. He should be walked out back and have a single bullet put through his brain then tossed in a shallow unmarked grave. I honestly can’t believe there’s even people pussyfooting around this. Guy wasn’t just some random German soldier, he choose to become one of "Hitler’s Elite." The only honor he should get is to receive a Christian burial after he forfeits his life. |
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Posted: 9/27/2023 12:42:34 PM EST
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Why? Should we go after Vietnamese who killed southern civilians during tet? Do you wanna prosecute every GI who shot a water buffalo? Lets find the guys who placed the orders with Dupont for the napalm used to firebomb tokyo. Like, either we're giving everyone a pass on what they do in war (which seems to be the standard as long as you're not a European who fought against communism) or we're going after everyone for everything.  Attached File |
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Posted: 9/27/2023 12:45:31 PM EST
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm genuinely curious to see if there is some credible accusation against him. Beyond "he was in the Waffen-SS." At this point it just seems like a geopolitical fuck-fuck game. His entire division was investigated and tried[/s] WHITEWASHED by a Canadian tribunal in the 1980s, and now he's suddenly a problem again? |
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Posted: 9/27/2023 12:48:29 PM EST
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: "a Canadian is a Canadian is a Canadian.." Trudeau and the Liberals will protect this Nazi. Until they can't. He is not safe if they really want him. |
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Posted: 9/27/2023 12:52:05 PM EST
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The Ukraine and Russia war is completely irrelevant. That’s just distractions for fools. Old dude volunteered for the Waffen SS, he wasn’t forced or conscripted, he went willingly by his own choice. He knew exactly what he was doing and should be treated as what he is; a willing accomplice to Nazi atrocities. He should be walked out back and have a single bullet put through his brain then tossed in a shallow unmarked grave. I honestly can’t believe there’s even people pussyfooting around this. Guy wasn’t just some random German soldier, he choose to become one of "Hitler’s Elite." The only honor he should get is to receive a Christian burial after he forfeits his life. Agreed. He should be executed. |
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