I think we can go a step past that. They provided arms and support to the enemy in a time of war. They also abandoned US citizens and allies to the enemy. It's almost like they joined the taliban. BUT what I think we are really seeing is greed. The people running things are war profiteers, they don't care WHO they sell the weapons to as long as they keep getting paid for more and more weapons. I think it's all about money. They are probably already on the payroll of companies supplying some of that hardware.  They have NO care for the lives lost as long as they get there 10%. These are the only things that make since to me. People will say it's just a mistake, or dumb people, but dude you don't ALWAYS fail the same way, sometimes a fool with get something right. These guys NEVER get anything right.... Once, twice, three times (it's probably enemy action at that point) and we are at what 87?

What did I miss?

What I was talking about was how it seems like command could care less about all the weapons, equipment and people they left behind. Like giving guns and NVD's and o so much more to the taliban is no big deal. And also how DOS seems to NOT want US citizens coming back, see the other threads about the 6 flights being blocked. The news and the leadership don't seem to care about any of it, hay it's labor day let's go on vacation. Hmmm ice cream.

I don't think command would think it was no big deal is a soldier gave away NVD's....  To me it just don't compute, unless they work for the other side, or are on the take... I don't see any GOOD reasons for the things I am seeing. Sadly I don't think this is part of a cunning plan. I wish it was, I really really do. But what do I know, I am just a no one. Just venting about something that makes me sick and trying to figure out something that isn't as dark as I think is happening, there's got to be a good reason for all this???  Sorry if I have detracted from the conversation.

Sounds like Massoud is about to get fucked, alone and unsupported.

Bagram: Anas Haqqani tells the story about Bagram prison where he was jailed




Panjshir: Taliban fighters capture helicopters in Panjshir




Panjshir: Taliban hoisting the flag of Islamic Emirate at Governor's Headquarters




Panjshir: Taliban claim to have captured Rokha district of Panjshir




Taliban have reached Panjshir Governor's Office




Governor Haji Mohammad Osman Turabi visited the three valleys of Kunar in helicopter

Panjshir: Taliban leadership entering Panjshir Governor's Office




Taliban's war correspondent reporting from Panjshir







Taliban claim to have conquered Shatal district of Panjshir




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Resistance Force Afghanistan Planted Landmines on Highways to Stop Taliban Advance

That goes along with two other incidents :

1.  Whatever state department….”state department” … people who were left in China when the Wu flu really took off, not one single interview with them once they arrived back in the States.  Kinda the same with people stranded on cruise ships when covid ramped up.

2.  Whatever State or CIA personnel at the Benghazi compound when 13 hours took place…. Not a single one one said “FUCK WORKING FOR HILLARY CLINTON!  THAT BITCH DAMN NEAR GOT US ALL KILLED!  I quit!  And here is my tell all interview or tell all book.”

And of course, whoever the fuck CIA “Bob” was running the compound, we never did really here from him to say “That’s not how it went down.”  Or at least he wasn’t very vocal about it.

Man! Don't bleed all over the rug... It really ties the room together!

A’yup!

I started a thread about that exact thing a week or two back :

https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/My-tin-foil-hat-is-on-too-tight--remember-inmates-getting-released-last-year-/5-2479893/

Here was the meme that was floating around FB last year:

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Every time I see the list of small arms and ordnance left to the Taliban by the Potato I have to sit down because I get too dizzy.

Here's a list of ammo, etc., that I could find on what we left the Taliban:

-2,520 Bombs
-Administration Encrypted Cell Phones and Laptops all operational
-Pallets with Millions of Dollars in US Currency
-Millions of Rounds of Ammunition including but not limited to 20,150,600 rounds of 7.62mm, 9,000,000 rounds of 50.caliber

(Couldn't find numbers on 5.56 NATO rounds but if that much heavier ammo was given to them it has to be in the 100 million range I would assume?)

Link

The hits just keep coming. Per that link. First time I have noticed that mentioned, US drone jamming equipment along with china there to buy it (and I am sure a bunch of our working encrypted coms gear). Nope nothing to see there, you give away your encryption stuff all the time. It boggles my mind the amount of damage this has done to the US. This is the kinda thing that can change the coarse of a world war hmmmmm

And so sad to see those that supported and helped us getting wiped out and there requests for help denied. There goes us ever having any friends on the ground there. Oh my bad, our enemy is our friend right now, even though they still want to kill us.... The talking heads say all the gear was for our allies over there, BUT that's not who got it, and when or allies need help we say NO.

I feel for the guys that served there, I can't even imagine, I am this sick and I was never even over there. I just know equipment and what I see in those videos...... Like was said, it makes my head spin, trying to grasp a "reason". There has to be.... And the other poster you are right, it's enough stuff to fund or start a war, I also wouldn't be shocked. I am just scared it's going to get used AGAINST us. These people are NOT our friends.

When you look at the details, it has to be deliberate, and its treason.

Yup on all counts.......sad.........VERY, VERY SAD.

What are administration encrypted cell phones?

I am just making a WILD guess but I assume they allow the new owners to have access to government wide encrypted servers, etc.

But we need an opinion from one of the military computer guys..........I am ONLY making a WILD guess.

One would hope that in a centralized encryption system you can disable individual devices or otherwise exclude them from the network.

Sure...........but remember we are dealing with the Potato Administration.

So any thought of brain power is out the window.

If I was the Taliban I'd contact China and say "here's one of their devices please analyze and get us back into their systems.............."

Then China gets them back into our systems because they are far smarter than the Potato Administration.

Well, the common dog is smarter than the Potato Administration but I digress..............

This is the government we’re talking about.

Hopefully these encryption systems deal mainly with the war for the establishment of wokeness and cancel culture objectives.

I think it's pretty likely that we built and paid for an encrypted system for the Afghan government rather than giving them access to US systems.  I think it's also pretty likely we built back doors into said system.  It's not like this stuff happened yesterday. We've been building their government infrastructure since the Bush Administration.

It’s somewhat surreal listening to some of the talk show discussions on this whole Afghanistan situation and ongoing aftermath as if it were just another political topic like raising taxes or even gun control.

We have absolutely lost the narrative, even within our own circles.

Are those the same back doors the Awans used?

In a non Twilight Zone reality I would agree with you.......but since we are in the Twilight Zone I am going to stay with wokeness and cancel culture.

I'm sure the ISI has their own grand plan and has been doing lots of snooping for the last 20 years.

This stuff was built starting with the Bush Administration.  It's doubtful much went to the Afghans after January 2021.

Wokeness and cancel culture came in after January, 2021.

ETA:  I'm just bustin' your balls........but you gotta admit this Potato Administration is in uncharted waters relative to stupidity and ineptitude.

Yes, they are. It's fucking catastrophic.

Yup.

2019 - Emirates Boeing 777 Take off from Kabul Afghanistan

Biden jetted to Delaware on Friday night and is due back Monday evening

Meanwhile a reported breakdown in negotiations between the Taliban and US State Department has left 1,000 people stranded in Mazar-i-Sharif

Six planes chartered by Glenn Beck are grounded there amid reports the State Department neglected to tell Taliban officials it approved those flights

The chartered flights cost Beck's charity a reported $750,000 each

Among the passengers are SIV applicants and 142 American citizens


This satellite image released by Maxar Technologies shows satellite imagery of the Mazar-i-Sharif and grounded planes at the airport in northern Afghanistan on September 3





A House Republican lawmaker called for President Biden's impeachment on Monday morning as he vacations in Delaware over Labor Day weekend while anywhere between 100 and 200 Americans are still stranded in Afghanistan amid a reported breakdown in negotiations between the Taliban and State Department.

'He's prioritizing his vacation over the lives of American citizens,' Tennessee Rep. Diana Harshbarger said of Biden on Fox News.

'He kept his promises to the Taliban and he's breaking his promises to Americans to get them out, and god only knows what will happen if they can't get out.'

Biden is scheduled to return to DC tonight after spending two full days in Delaware with no public events. He flew back to his home state Friday night after touring Hurricane Ida damage in Louisiana.

Meanwhile, the US military withdrawal from Kabul was completed a week ago, and efforts to rescue American citizens still stuck in Afghanistan has reached an impasse with reports that six private charter planes sent there to evacuate at least 1,000 people have been grounded in an Afghan city 260 miles north of Kabul.

The flights were chartered by Mercury One, a charity founded by right-wing commentator Glenn Beck, Newsweek reports.

Beck's fleet of two Airbus 340s and four Boeing 737s from Kam Air are sitting empty in the city of Mazar-i-Sharif as their passengers - including at least 142 Americans.





One NGO official told Newsweek the remaining passengers are special immigrant visa applicants and that everyone is 'waiting in their safe houses for clearance for takeoff from the Taliban' amid the diplomatic stalemate.  

The evacuation flights reportedly cost Beck's charity $750,000 each.

Harshbarger on Monday said now is the time for Biden to be 'on the job 100%.'

'We have people still in Afghanistan, they won't let our planes leave,' she said.

On Sunday, Reuters reported that the delay had been caused by Biden administration officials not telling Taliban leaders it had approved the departures of the chartered flights from Mazar-i-Sharif.

An exasperated flight organizer hit out at the State Department over the fiasco, saying: 'They need to be held accountable for putting these people's lives in danger.'

Other groups trying to organize their own chartered flights have also hit out at the State Department, with Rick Clay from private rescue firm PlanB claiming it's the only thing stopping him fulfilling his brief.


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(michael caine) he wasn't supposed to blow his bloody draws off .


plus nice trama kit , water and a pillow

Yet none of it was left in the Panjshir valley. That just pisses me off even more.
The borders of Afghanistan, like many countries outside if Europe, are a construct of imperialism. The fact that Panjshir has never been a part of Afghanistan politically at any point of history should be embraced. We should have declared we recognize Panjshiristan and armed the shit out of them.  
Ditto for our failure to create Kurdistan.

good points all, but, really, how would arming Panjshir further the Great Reset? how would it further  socialism?

tHeSe ARe nOT hOStaGeS

U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken arrived in Qatar on Monday




Dubbed as a 'thank you' tour to Qatar and Germany, Blinken will meet with senior Qatari and German officials. In Germany he will also co-host a ministerial meeting on Afghanistan





Biden eats a sandwich and takes a selfie as he visits union workers at the International Brotherhood of Electric Workers (IBEW) Local 313 in Newcastle, Delaware








Blinken is welcomed upon his arrival by MFA Director of Protocol Ambassador Ibrahim Fakhroo at Old Doha Airport.  Blinken is meeting with Qatari leaders to thank the nation for its support in the Afghanistan evacuation efforts and to discuss the future of US-Afghanistan relations




An aerial view of an Afghan refugee camp inside the US military base in Ramstein, Germany, on Monday where thousands of evacuees are waiting to be vetted and processed, with some set for flights to the United States






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The mental gymnastics.

Jamali ran for Seattle City Council a couple of years ago.

I guess he lost because he is now on Newsweek's payroll.

So yes, just another dumbass 'tard.  (Unless by some miraculous chance he was being sarcastic.)

What a piece of work.

Also the PLANES are being denied clearance, not the PEOPLE. Yes that is a pretty big distinction.

Naveed Jamali  (@NaveedAJamali) September 6, 2021

 We now pretend that Qatar didn’t actively support terrorism and is in fact a peacemaker.

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Yep.  People can just flap their arms and fly out, without the planes.  The fact that they aren't doing this, must mean they don't really want to leave.

Taliban not letting planes leave.  No seaports and even the larger rivers seem to be seasonal.  Land borders are guarded (reports of US gov providing aid to at least one of the neighboring countries to strengthen border security) and reports have already shown people being turned away.   Nope, not being held as hostages, at all.

Shame on me for thinking of both the best interest of Americans and those that stand against our enemies.

The world is past peak oil. Not peak as in we've run out, but that there is less demand for oil than there is supply.  The US has developed extraction methods that has brought far more oil to the market than anyone ever dreamed possible while demand has slacked.
The middle east is fucked.  They have let their population grow beyond even their water, let alone their food.  The house if cards will fall, and few fucks will be given by anyone since they are now and have been such assholes.

Biden Administration is a disaster and is more embarrassing each day:  State Dept trying to steal credit for rescue of 4 Americans from Afghanistan, organizer says: 'Total lie' https://t.co/1YI6tSWMBQ #FoxNews

Lou Dobbs  (@LouDobbs) September 7, 2021

Sky Australia on Joe Biden...