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Posted: 6/20/2023 9:22:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is that how Trump did it? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Take more money from American consumers, use it to fuel Big Government? I'd write it so it directly pays off the debt. Is that how Trump did it? I don't know. Not sure how that all works. But fuck China. |
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Posted: 6/20/2023 9:23:00 PM EDT
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Trump was breaking USA dick off in China.
China releases virus perfectly timed to influence election It’s all so obvious. |
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Posted: 6/20/2023 9:25:07 PM EDT
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I'll try to explain this in small words for small minds.
My wife needs a new mixer. Let's say an American mixer is $500 and a Chinese mixer is $100. I simply cannot afford a $500 mixer. If you place a 100% tariff on the Chinese mixer I will still not be able to afford the American mixer. I'll have to pay the government an extra $100 to buy the Chinese mixer for $200. The economy took a hit because I might have spent that $100 on American products and services but instead I lost that money to taxes to be wasted. Now raise the price of the Chinese mixer to $500. $400 goes to taxes and $100 to China........but it doesn't, because I cannot afford $500. The money has less value than it did and I cannot afford either. Now all the Americans who would have made a profit off the Chinese mixer make nothing and they buy less from any source including America. I buy sonething else or buy used. Every fucking body loses..... |
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Posted: 6/20/2023 9:25:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Money going to China is advantageous to us. It reinforces who their daddy is. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: They just pass the cost to is so wtf good does it do lol It changes consumer behavior and brings manufacturing back to the US. Which means more jobs and more domestic wealth creation with less of our local wealth being transferred overseas. That is patently ridiculous. The tariffs do nothing to make the cost of US goods cheap enough to compete with Chinese goods. They just make the consumer spend a bit more on Chinese stuff which simply takes that money out of the economy so there is less money available to buy America goods. The money stays in the US economy, rather than going to China. Money going to China is advantageous to us. It reinforces who their daddy is. Not really. |
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Posted: 6/20/2023 9:25:22 PM EDT
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CHEAPER PRICES ARE BETTER.
Says the chamber of commerce simps until everyone is working at CCPMart making minimum wage and every city looks like San Francisco. |
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Posted: 6/20/2023 9:25:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We have had 5 local shops that specialize in smaller injection mold dies shut in the last 5 months. I've talked to 2 of the owners and they sad they can no long compete with dies coming from China. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: We win that fight daily. You just think we should make rubber dog shit here instead of awesome shit that we do every day. We have had 5 local shops that specialize in smaller injection mold dies shut in the last 5 months. I've talked to 2 of the owners and they sad they can no long compete with dies coming from China. Then they should have shut down. |
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Posted: 6/20/2023 9:26:01 PM EDT
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If Ron becomes President, Amazon stock to the moon!
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Posted: 6/20/2023 9:27:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It will hurt, the change needs to be gradual. Things will correct better in time. But at least you won't be living under Chinese Communist control, as that's where we are headed. The Chinese are leveraging our Corporations, to control our Government. For their benefit. How do you think this train ride ends? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: That is patently ridiculous. The tariffs do nothing to make the cost of US goods cheap enough to compete with Chinese goods. They just make the consumer spend a bit more on Chinese stuff which simply takes that money out of the economy so there is less money available to buy America goods. So you would buy Chinese at the same prices, or higher than American? The chinese product is often 25% or less the cost of the American product. If you raise the cost of the Chinese product to match the American product that I could not afford, now I buy no fucking thing....at all. You don't get my money. The Chinese don't get my money. The government does get my money. I spend it on something else.... It will hurt, the change needs to be gradual. Things will correct better in time. But at least you won't be living under Chinese Communist control, as that's where we are headed. The Chinese are leveraging our Corporations, to control our Government. For their benefit. How do you think this train ride ends? This ends with idiots like you starving millions of people to death from shear stupidity. |
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Posted: 6/20/2023 9:27:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I buy American goods and I buy Chinese goods. If you tax me when I have to buy a Chinese product because I cannot afford an equivalent American product, you do nothing that would raise my buying power so I can afford the American product that I cannot afford. Now I have even less money to buy an American product later. Taxing me more just removed money in the economy and less goods are bought over all. Less American and Chinese goods are bought. The taxed money is just wasted by the government. Dear, God. Can this be any simpler? Can you protectionists be any more retarded? There are other places to make goods. We are in a war with China. If you can’t afford Chinese goods then maybe you can afford Mexican goods and they can have decent jobs in Mexico and stay there instead of coming here. |
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Posted: 6/20/2023 9:27:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'll try to explain this in small words for small minds. My wife needs a new mixer. Let's say an American mixer is $500 and a Chinese mixer is $100. I simply cannot afford a $500 mixer. If you place a 100% tariff on the Chinese mixer I will still not be able to afford the American mixer. I'll have to pay the government an extra $100 to buy the Chinese mixer for $200. The economy took a hit because I might have spent that $100 on American products and services but instead I lost that money to taxes to be wasted. Now raise the price of the Chinese mixer to $500. $400 goes to taxes and $100 to China........but it doesn't, because I cannot afford $500. The money has less value than it did and I cannot afford either. Now all the Americans who would have made a profit off the Chinese mixer make nothing and they buy less from any source including America. I buy sonething else or buy used. Every fucking body loses..... |
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Posted: 6/20/2023 9:28:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'll try to explain this in small words for small minds. My wife needs a new mixer. Let's say an American mixer is $500 and a Chinese mixer is $100. I simply cannot afford a $500 mixer. If you place a 100% tariff on the Chinese mixer I will still not be able to afford the American mixer. I'll have to pay the government an extra $100 to buy the Chinese mixer for $200. The economy took a hit because I might have spent that $100 on American products and services but instead I lost that money to taxes to be wasted. Now raise the price of the Chinese mixer to $500. $400 goes to taxes and $100 to China........but it doesn't, because I cannot afford $500. The money has less value than it did and I cannot afford either. Now all the Americans who would have made a profit off the Chinese mixer make nothing and they buy less from any source including America. I buy sonething else or buy used. Every fucking body loses..... It'd be cheaper if you moved to China. Why don't you move to China? |
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Posted: 6/20/2023 9:28:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If we impose tariffs on Chinese goods that doesn't mean they just ship us stuff for free. They still make their money. In cases where the demand is high enough like for electronics that we don't even have the capacity to make here anymore, they won't have to worry about it at all. We just pay more and our government gets more tax money. Funny how that always seems to work out that way. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The money stays in the US economy, rather than going to China. If we impose tariffs on Chinese goods that doesn't mean they just ship us stuff for free. They still make their money. In cases where the demand is high enough like for electronics that we don't even have the capacity to make here anymore, they won't have to worry about it at all. We just pay more and our government gets more tax money. Funny how that always seems to work out that way. What happens is domestic manufacturing or manufacturing outside of China increases. Both are a win for us. |
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Posted: 6/20/2023 9:30:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There are other places to make goods. We are in a war with China. If you can’t afford Chinese goods then maybe you can afford Mexican goods and they can have decent jobs in Mexico and stay there instead of coming here. I'm using a binary choice to help the tariff tax idiots understand. They are having a hard time. |
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Posted: 6/20/2023 9:30:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This ends with idiots like you starving millions of people to death from shear stupidity.  Attached File |
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Posted: 6/20/2023 9:30:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You could afford a $500 mixer if tariffs kept good middle class jobs over here. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I'll try to explain this in small words for small minds. My wife needs a new mixer. Let's say an American mixer is $500 and a Chinese mixer is $100. I simply cannot afford a $500 mixer. If you place a 100% tariff on the Chinese mixer I will still not be able to afford the American mixer. I'll have to pay the government an extra $100 to buy the Chinese mixer for $200. The economy took a hit because I might have spent that $100 on American products and services but instead I lost that money to taxes to be wasted. Now raise the price of the Chinese mixer to $500. $400 goes to taxes and $100 to China........but it doesn't, because I cannot afford $500. The money has less value than it did and I cannot afford either. Now all the Americans who would have made a profit off the Chinese mixer make nothing and they buy less from any source including America. I buy sonething else or buy used. Every fucking body loses..... Your tariffs will destroy all jobs. |
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Posted: 6/20/2023 9:31:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You could afford a $500 mixer if tariffs kept good middle class jobs over here. And if the US company was producing at greater scale, that also means cheaper goods. But we really aren't even at the buy American phase, we are just at the get out of China phase, there are other countries with cheaper labor you know. |
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Posted: 6/20/2023 9:32:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Your tariffs will destroy all jobs.  Attached File Attached FileYou fell for yet another post war lie pushed by globalists. |
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Posted: 6/20/2023 9:32:40 PM EDT
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Fuck yea.
Make Harbor Freight great again. |
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Posted: 6/20/2023 9:32:45 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm using a binary choice to help the tariff tax idiots understand. They are having a hard time. I'm sorry, but we understand the issue better than you. |
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Posted: 6/20/2023 9:32:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We give China billions of dollars. Are you not fucking paying attention? We waste trillions on other countries. Did you even think about this before you typed it? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: They just pass the cost to is so wtf good does it do lol It changes consumer behavior and brings manufacturing back to the US. Which means more jobs and more domestic wealth creation with less of our local wealth being transferred overseas. That is patently ridiculous. The tariffs do nothing to make the cost of US goods cheap enough to compete with Chinese goods. They just make the consumer spend a bit more on Chinese stuff which simply takes that money out of the economy so there is less money available to buy America goods. The money stays in the US economy, rather than going to China. We give China billions of dollars. Are you not fucking paying attention? We waste trillions on other countries. Did you even think about this before you typed it? I work with this shit every damned day. Uneven trade practices with China has ruined many important American industries. Targeted tariffs will help to correct things but it will take years to fix it. You guys pretending our trade with China is not a big problem are absolutely kidding yourselves. |
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Posted: 6/20/2023 9:33:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Your tariffs will destroy all jobs. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I'll try to explain this in small words for small minds. My wife needs a new mixer. Let's say an American mixer is $500 and a Chinese mixer is $100. I simply cannot afford a $500 mixer. If you place a 100% tariff on the Chinese mixer I will still not be able to afford the American mixer. I'll have to pay the government an extra $100 to buy the Chinese mixer for $200. The economy took a hit because I might have spent that $100 on American products and services but instead I lost that money to taxes to be wasted. Now raise the price of the Chinese mixer to $500. $400 goes to taxes and $100 to China........but it doesn't, because I cannot afford $500. The money has less value than it did and I cannot afford either. Now all the Americans who would have made a profit off the Chinese mixer make nothing and they buy less from any source including America. I buy sonething else or buy used. Every fucking body loses..... Your tariffs will destroy all jobs. Negative. Trump fucked China so hard they launched biowarefare. We need to act like the super power we are, instead of the pussy we’ve become in just 2.5 years. |
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Posted: 6/20/2023 9:34:00 PM EDT
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The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design. FA Hayek
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Posted: 6/20/2023 9:34:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The chinese product is often 25% or less the cost of the American product. If you raise the cost of the Chinese product to match the American product that I could not afford, now I buy no fucking thing....at all. You don't get my money. The Chinese don't get my money. The government does get my money. I spend it on something else.... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: That is patently ridiculous. The tariffs do nothing to make the cost of US goods cheap enough to compete with Chinese goods. They just make the consumer spend a bit more on Chinese stuff which simply takes that money out of the economy so there is less money available to buy America goods. So you would buy Chinese at the same prices, or higher than American? The chinese product is often 25% or less the cost of the American product. If you raise the cost of the Chinese product to match the American product that I could not afford, now I buy no fucking thing....at all. You don't get my money. The Chinese don't get my money. The government does get my money. I spend it on something else.... Good, as long as you don’t enrich China with it. |
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Posted: 6/20/2023 9:34:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'd write it so it directly pays off the debt. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Take more money from American consumers, use it to fuel Big Government? I'd write it so it directly pays off the debt. Or builds the wall. |
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Posted: 6/20/2023 9:35:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It changes consumer behavior and brings manufacturing back to the US. Which means more jobs and more domestic wealth creation with less of our local wealth being transferred overseas. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: They just pass the cost to is so wtf good does it do lol It changes consumer behavior and brings manufacturing back to the US. Which means more jobs and more domestic wealth creation with less of our local wealth being transferred overseas. No it doesn’t. |
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Posted: 6/20/2023 9:36:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We have had 5 local shops that specialize in smaller injection mold dies shut in the last 5 months. I've talked to 2 of the owners and they sad they can no long compete with dies coming from China. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: We win that fight daily. You just think we should make rubber dog shit here instead of awesome shit that we do every day. We have had 5 local shops that specialize in smaller injection mold dies shut in the last 5 months. I've talked to 2 of the owners and they sad they can no long compete with dies coming from China. Don’t worry, they can get jobs at Walmart so they can afford cheap slave labor manufactured Chinese shit. |
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Posted: 6/20/2023 9:36:31 PM EDT
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I other words, Ron Desantis favors a capital surplus.
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Posted: 6/20/2023 9:37:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I work with this shit every damned day. Uneven trade practices with China has ruined many important American industries. Targeted tariffs will help to correct things but it will take years to fix it. You guys pretending our trade with China is not a big problem are absolutely kidding yourselves. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: They just pass the cost to is so wtf good does it do lol It changes consumer behavior and brings manufacturing back to the US. Which means more jobs and more domestic wealth creation with less of our local wealth being transferred overseas. That is patently ridiculous. The tariffs do nothing to make the cost of US goods cheap enough to compete with Chinese goods. They just make the consumer spend a bit more on Chinese stuff which simply takes that money out of the economy so there is less money available to buy America goods. The money stays in the US economy, rather than going to China. We give China billions of dollars. Are you not fucking paying attention? We waste trillions on other countries. Did you even think about this before you typed it? I work with this shit every damned day. Uneven trade practices with China has ruined many important American industries. Targeted tariffs will help to correct things but it will take years to fix it. You guys pretending our trade with China is not a big problem are absolutely kidding yourselves. You think you can control the global market. How cute. |
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Posted: 6/20/2023 9:37:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'll try to explain this in small words for small minds. My wife needs a new mixer. Let's say an American mixer is $500 and a Chinese mixer is $100. I simply cannot afford a $500 mixer. If you place a 100% tariff on the Chinese mixer I will still not be able to afford the American mixer. I'll have to pay the government an extra $100 to buy the Chinese mixer for $200. The economy took a hit because I might have spent that $100 on American products and services but instead I lost that money to taxes to be wasted. Now raise the price of the Chinese mixer to $500. $400 goes to taxes and $100 to China........but it doesn't, because I cannot afford $500. The money has less value than it did and I cannot afford either. Now all the Americans who would have made a profit off the Chinese mixer make nothing and they buy less from any source including America. I buy sonething else or buy used. Every fucking body loses..... So buy the mixer from Mexico for $101. |
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Posted: 6/20/2023 9:38:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This ends with idiots like you starving millions of people to death from shear stupidity. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: That is patently ridiculous. The tariffs do nothing to make the cost of US goods cheap enough to compete with Chinese goods. They just make the consumer spend a bit more on Chinese stuff which simply takes that money out of the economy so there is less money available to buy America goods. So you would buy Chinese at the same prices, or higher than American? The chinese product is often 25% or less the cost of the American product. If you raise the cost of the Chinese product to match the American product that I could not afford, now I buy no fucking thing....at all. You don't get my money. The Chinese don't get my money. The government does get my money. I spend it on something else.... It will hurt, the change needs to be gradual. Things will correct better in time. But at least you won't be living under Chinese Communist control, as that's where we are headed. The Chinese are leveraging our Corporations, to control our Government. For their benefit. How do you think this train ride ends? This ends with idiots like you starving millions of people to death from shear stupidity. You can’t even grasp that there are more than 2 countries on the planet. |
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Posted: 6/20/2023 9:39:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I other words, Ron Desantis favors a capital surplus. Sounds like desantis doesn’t understand we’re at war with China. Have been for 20 years. And his swamp ass won’t stand up for America. America First!!!! |
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Posted: 6/20/2023 9:39:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This ends with idiots like you starving millions of people to death from shear stupidity. I’ll build the wall, and Mexico will pay for it! |
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Posted: 6/20/2023 9:39:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Don’t worry, they can get jobs at Walmart so they can afford cheap slave labor manufactured Chinese shit. Or they could make shit more efficiently or something else. I compete with China daily and win. Their quality sucks on lots of stuff and that can be exploited to win without higher taxes. |
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Posted: 6/20/2023 9:40:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm using a binary choice to help the tariff tax idiots understand. They are having a hard time. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: There are other places to make goods. We are in a war with China. If you can’t afford Chinese goods then maybe you can afford Mexican goods and they can have decent jobs in Mexico and stay there instead of coming here. I'm using a binary choice to help the tariff tax idiots understand. They are having a hard time. It isn’t a binary choice, you are completely missing the whole point. |
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Posted: 6/20/2023 9:40:02 PM EDT
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What the fuck? Let’s just continue to rely on them for half the shit we need right up until they bomb us and our allies.
Even Biden has left tariffs in place. Even after all the Dems shitting on it for years now that shit stains is president they haven’t said a peep. Because they know it’s what we need to do to prepare our country for the future. |
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Posted: 6/20/2023 9:40:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I compete with China daily and win. |
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Posted: 6/20/2023 9:40:46 PM EDT
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The US needs an ABC Supply Chain - Anywhere But China.
Tariffs are the key to this. US should add +1% tariff per month on all Chinese imports. End of year 1, 12% tariffs. Year 4, 48% tariffs. By year 10, its 120%, by year 20 its 240%, and by then we will have likely ended trade with China. ... Tariffs have already helped with changing country of origin: https://archive.ph/mSoKU "Imports of Chinese goods that were subjected to the highest US tariffs, were 22% lower in mid-2022 vs 2018; imports of Chinese goods that were not subject to US tariffs during the trade war were up 50%." --> Increasing Tariffs is essential for Decoupling from China. |
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Posted: 6/20/2023 9:40:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sounds like desantis doesn't understand we're at war with China. Have been for 20 years. And his swamp ass won't stand up for America. America First!!!! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I other words, Ron Desantis favors a capital surplus. Sounds like desantis doesn't understand we're at war with China. Have been for 20 years. And his swamp ass won't stand up for America. America First!!!! |
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Posted: 6/20/2023 9:41:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You can’t even grasp that there are more than 2 countries on the planet. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: That is patently ridiculous. The tariffs do nothing to make the cost of US goods cheap enough to compete with Chinese goods. They just make the consumer spend a bit more on Chinese stuff which simply takes that money out of the economy so there is less money available to buy America goods. So you would buy Chinese at the same prices, or higher than American? The chinese product is often 25% or less the cost of the American product. If you raise the cost of the Chinese product to match the American product that I could not afford, now I buy no fucking thing....at all. You don't get my money. The Chinese don't get my money. The government does get my money. I spend it on something else.... It will hurt, the change needs to be gradual. Things will correct better in time. But at least you won't be living under Chinese Communist control, as that's where we are headed. The Chinese are leveraging our Corporations, to control our Government. For their benefit. How do you think this train ride ends? This ends with idiots like you starving millions of people to death from shear stupidity. You can’t even grasp that there are more than 2 countries on the planet. I'm using a binary choice as an example for idiots so they can try to understand the concept. Of course you knew that, right? |
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Posted: 6/20/2023 9:41:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm using a binary choice to help the tariff tax idiots understand. They are having a hard time. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: There are other places to make goods. We are in a war with China. If you can’t afford Chinese goods then maybe you can afford Mexican goods and they can have decent jobs in Mexico and stay there instead of coming here. I'm using a binary choice to help the tariff tax idiots understand. They are having a hard time. Therein lies your problem. You think you are having an economic discussion but you’re really arguing with the magabots. If daddy trump told them tariffs were bad they would parrot it. But their lord has said tariffs are good and a political opponent has taken the opposite approach. No level of evidence will convince them unless their lord tells them. |
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Posted: 6/20/2023 9:42:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you can't even afford a $500 blender, I disagree. It was an easy to understand example for morons |
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Posted: 6/20/2023 9:43:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You think you can control the global market. How cute. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: They just pass the cost to is so wtf good does it do lol It changes consumer behavior and brings manufacturing back to the US. Which means more jobs and more domestic wealth creation with less of our local wealth being transferred overseas. That is patently ridiculous. The tariffs do nothing to make the cost of US goods cheap enough to compete with Chinese goods. They just make the consumer spend a bit more on Chinese stuff which simply takes that money out of the economy so there is less money available to buy America goods. The money stays in the US economy, rather than going to China. We give China billions of dollars. Are you not fucking paying attention? We waste trillions on other countries. Did you even think about this before you typed it? I work with this shit every damned day. Uneven trade practices with China has ruined many important American industries. Targeted tariffs will help to correct things but it will take years to fix it. You guys pretending our trade with China is not a big problem are absolutely kidding yourselves. You think you can control the global market. How cute. You don’t even understand that there is a global market, and tariffs against China will absolutely take money out of China. You seem to be missing the fact that China has been waging war against us for decades. |
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Posted: 6/20/2023 9:43:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If Ron becomes President, Amazon stock to the moon! 
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Posted: 6/20/2023 9:45:07 PM EDT
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Anybody want to touch on Chinese manipulation of their Yuan and weakening it against the dollar in response to tariffs?
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Posted: 6/20/2023 9:45:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What the fuck? Let’s just continue to rely on them for half the shit we need right up until they bomb us and our allies. Even Biden has left tariffs in place. Even after all the Dems shitting on it for years now that shit stains is president they haven’t said a peep. Because they know it’s what we need to do to prepare our country for the future. Biden left taxes on the people in place. Try to keep up. Biden loves tax revenue. You'd have to be colossaly stupid to think he cares about the source. China paid him millions. |
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Posted: 6/20/2023 9:46:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Or they could make shit more efficiently or something else. I compete with China daily and win. Their quality sucks on lots of stuff and that can be exploited to win without higher taxes. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Don’t worry, they can get jobs at Walmart so they can afford cheap slave labor manufactured Chinese shit. Or they could make shit more efficiently or something else. I compete with China daily and win. Their quality sucks on lots of stuff and that can be exploited to win without higher taxes. Their quality sucks on everything but they target markets to destroy competition. They don’t have to make a profit over there. They use slave labor. They can afford to lose money until the drive their competitors out of business. |
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Posted: 6/20/2023 9:46:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You don’t even understand that there is a global market, and tariffs against China will absolutely take money out of China. You seem to be missing the fact that China has been waging war against us for decades. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: They just pass the cost to is so wtf good does it do lol It changes consumer behavior and brings manufacturing back to the US. Which means more jobs and more domestic wealth creation with less of our local wealth being transferred overseas. That is patently ridiculous. The tariffs do nothing to make the cost of US goods cheap enough to compete with Chinese goods. They just make the consumer spend a bit more on Chinese stuff which simply takes that money out of the economy so there is less money available to buy America goods. The money stays in the US economy, rather than going to China. We give China billions of dollars. Are you not fucking paying attention? We waste trillions on other countries. Did you even think about this before you typed it? I work with this shit every damned day. Uneven trade practices with China has ruined many important American industries. Targeted tariffs will help to correct things but it will take years to fix it. You guys pretending our trade with China is not a big problem are absolutely kidding yourselves. You think you can control the global market. How cute. You don’t even understand that there is a global market, and tariffs against China will absolutely take money out of China. You seem to be missing the fact that China has been waging war against us for decades. No. Tariffs are paid by the consumer. All business taxes are paid by the consumer. Fuck. |
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Posted: 6/20/2023 9:46:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sounds like desantis doesn’t understand we’re at war with China. Have been for 20 years. And his swamp ass won’t stand up for America. America First!!!! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I other words, Ron Desantis favors a capital surplus. Sounds like desantis doesn’t understand we’re at war with China. Have been for 20 years. And his swamp ass won’t stand up for America. America First!!!! A war where China ships us physical goods and we send them green paper or numbers on a screen? What % of chinese imports are inputs for American manufacturers? What happens to those manufacturers when their raw and intermediate goods cost goes up? |
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Posted: 6/20/2023 9:47:20 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm using a binary choice as an example for idiots so they can try to understand the concept. Of course you knew that, right? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: That is patently ridiculous. The tariffs do nothing to make the cost of US goods cheap enough to compete with Chinese goods. They just make the consumer spend a bit more on Chinese stuff which simply takes that money out of the economy so there is less money available to buy America goods. So you would buy Chinese at the same prices, or higher than American? The chinese product is often 25% or less the cost of the American product. If you raise the cost of the Chinese product to match the American product that I could not afford, now I buy no fucking thing....at all. You don't get my money. The Chinese don't get my money. The government does get my money. I spend it on something else.... It will hurt, the change needs to be gradual. Things will correct better in time. But at least you won't be living under Chinese Communist control, as that's where we are headed. The Chinese are leveraging our Corporations, to control our Government. For their benefit. How do you think this train ride ends? This ends with idiots like you starving millions of people to death from shear stupidity. You can’t even grasp that there are more than 2 countries on the planet. I'm using a binary choice as an example for idiots so they can try to understand the concept. Of course you knew that, right? It is a false choice that gives a false picture, so you are either disingenuous or you don’t understand. |
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Posted: 6/20/2023 9:47:25 PM EDT
[#50]
All of the Statist, Big Gov, RINOS are pro china
See Cocaine Mitch F THE CCP By extension, F GD'S SACRED COW HOLOSUN |
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