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Posted: 1/1/2020 2:07:06 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: [ ] - available 30 round mags [ ] - some form of PCC or larger braced pistol (8 to 10 inch barrel) that uses the same mags |
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Posted: 1/1/2020 2:08:08 PM EST
[#2]
How about KelTec make a Sub2000 that takes the Ruger mags. there's your companion carbine, and it folds in half.
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Posted: 1/1/2020 2:14:53 PM EST
[#3]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Some sort of Roni brace could be cool 
Still compact enough to conceal on the body, much more stabile for long distance accuracy |
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Posted: 1/1/2020 2:18:44 PM EST
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Some sort of Roni brace could be cool Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 1/1/2020 2:24:49 PM EST
[#5]
Has there ever been a handgun thread in GD like this where people where actually exciteded about it and it got 16 pages?
Note: i want a ruger 57! Lol |
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Posted: 1/1/2020 2:28:13 PM EST
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Has there ever been a handgun thread in GD like this where people where actually exciteded about it and it got 16 pages? Note: i want a ruger 57! Lol 
I also want one! |
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Posted: 1/1/2020 2:38:42 PM EST
[#7]
Some industry input.
Cheap 5.7 ammo looks like it’s already gone from most wholesalers. The pricier FN loads are still available. Dealer cost is $529. Street price should be 6 or less. |
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Posted: 1/1/2020 2:57:45 PM EST
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I will also mention that a pistol-grip fed braced PCC (a form factor like a B&T TP9 or a Kel-Tek CMR-30 or even MP7) would be a dream gun. Mag-forward designs like the AR15-based CMMG are great in most respects, but really suck when it comes to length and weight over a mag-in-grip design. If Ruger makes a decent MP-7 (or CMR-30/TP9/etc.) shape gun that takes their 57 pistol mags, they might actually be able to get military/LEO contracts again.  Attached File |
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Posted: 1/1/2020 3:04:45 PM EST
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I don't remember THOR? The main issue is all brass comes from FN. The Rumors that Speer has nickel brass has me wondering. Is someone else making brass? Or is FN doing Nickel? Does it still have the polymer coating? Or is it misprint? THOR AMMO |
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Posted: 1/1/2020 3:05:24 PM EST
[#10]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Not a big bulky chassis, just needs this; https://i.redd.it/bv8vtwxf6my21.jpg http://blog.full30.com/wp-content/uploads/Flux-Defense-Glock-Cover.jpg Still compact enough to conceal on the body, much more stabile for long distance accuracy |
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Posted: 1/1/2020 3:08:19 PM EST
[#11]
10 rounds?
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Posted: 1/1/2020 3:11:50 PM EST
[#12]
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Like an updated version of the Ruger MP9, with a brace? (Less fugly, of course) https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/314713/RugerMP9Stock_jpg-1216579.JPG Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I will also mention that a pistol-grip fed braced PCC (a form factor like a B&T TP9 or a Kel-Tek CMR-30 or even MP7) would be a dream gun. Mag-forward designs like the AR15-based CMMG are great in most respects, but really suck when it comes to length and weight over a mag-in-grip design. If Ruger makes a decent MP-7 (or CMR-30/TP9/etc.) shape gun that takes their 57 pistol mags, they might actually be able to get military/LEO contracts again. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/314713/RugerMP9Stock_jpg-1216579.JPG |
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Posted: 1/1/2020 3:12:06 PM EST
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source? first I've heard of it. Their 2 cans are still listed on the website. But given that they only did .22 cans, they were competing out of their league and they didn't price it lower than more established can makers. Now, maybe this is only a fear of mine because I don't know the ins and outs as well as I should, but it is what it is. |
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Posted: 1/1/2020 3:20:03 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: First thread I have seen that’s mostly positive about a new handgun. Maybe Glock fanboys are all on vacation from ARFCOM...
I also want one! Instead we have to call some yawner of a popgun a "training aid" to justify it's boring existence. Poopsy, would you be a doll and fetch me another natty ice?
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Posted: 1/1/2020 3:42:37 PM EST
[#15]
Looks like the FN57 with my axiom is only 5-6dB louder than a 9mm with 147gr ammo.
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Posted: 1/1/2020 3:43:14 PM EST
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I saw a mention of a fire control group in a review, but is it also the serialized part on the Ruger? If Flux made a chassis like they did for the M17...that's like most of the footprint and ergos of the MP7 but utilizing the 5.7 round Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Not a big bulky chassis, just needs this; https://i.redd.it/bv8vtwxf6my21.jpg http://blog.full30.com/wp-content/uploads/Flux-Defense-Glock-Cover.jpg Still compact enough to conceal on the body, much more stabile for long distance accuracy That does open up some interesting possibilities. |
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Posted: 1/1/2020 3:57:23 PM EST
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Looking at the pdf of the instruction manual on Ruger's website, it has a serialized 'fire control insert' and a non-serialized polymer grip frame. That does open up some interesting possibilities. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted: Not a big bulky chassis, just needs this; https://i.redd.it/bv8vtwxf6my21.jpg http://blog.full30.com/wp-content/uploads/Flux-Defense-Glock-Cover.jpg Still compact enough to conceal on the body, much more stabile for long distance accuracy That does open up some interesting possibilities. ETA: honestly the CMR-30 is about the best blueprint from which to make a chassis for this gun. Good charging handle ergos, add a rear pic rail a la MCX or Ruger's newer PC instead of a collapsing stock, no need to alter safety location (which I assume is tied to the FCG), keep the handguard length close to the same with a shorter barrel, and you'd be set. Alternately Ruger could just almost-copy the CMR-30 (not like they have issues copying Kel-Tec designs) and make it themselves as a factory option, rather than a chassis conversion. |
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Posted: 1/1/2020 3:58:41 PM EST
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Not a big bulky chassis, just needs this; https://i.redd.it/bv8vtwxf6my21.jpg http://blog.full30.com/wp-content/uploads/Flux-Defense-Glock-Cover.jpg Still compact enough to conceal on the body, much more stabile for long distance accuracy |
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Posted: 1/1/2020 3:58:49 PM EST
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Looking at the pdf of the instruction manual on Ruger's website, it has a serialized 'fire control insert' and a non-serialized polymer grip frame. That does open up some interesting possibilities. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted: Not a big bulky chassis, just needs this; https://i.redd.it/bv8vtwxf6my21.jpg http://blog.full30.com/wp-content/uploads/Flux-Defense-Glock-Cover.jpg Still compact enough to conceal on the body, much more stabile for long distance accuracy That does open up some interesting possibilities. |
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Posted: 1/1/2020 3:59:09 PM EST
[#20]
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Looking at the pdf of the instruction manual on Ruger's website, it has a serialized 'fire control insert' and a non-serialized polymer grip frame. That does open up some interesting possibilities. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted: Not a big bulky chassis, just needs this; https://i.redd.it/bv8vtwxf6my21.jpg http://blog.full30.com/wp-content/uploads/Flux-Defense-Glock-Cover.jpg Still compact enough to conceal on the body, much more stabile for long distance accuracy That does open up some interesting possibilities. 
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Posted: 1/1/2020 4:07:36 PM EST
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I was thinking a CMR-30 style of pistol built on the R-57's action (like the CMR/PMR relationship). If they make it with a 6" to 12" barrel and no stock (just a pic rail like they put on their new version of the PC, to take any MCX-compatible braces of which there are many) they will be golden. |
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Posted: 1/1/2020 4:07:45 PM EST
[#22]
A few YouTube videos that highlight the 5.7x28 capabilities....
 FN Five seveN (5x7) VS BULLETPROOF GLASS  5.7x28mm, Elite Ammunition 28gr T6 (All copper), VS Level IIIA Body Armor, FiveSeveN  5.7x28mm, 37gr CHP, R37.X R&R Weapon Systems Review |
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Posted: 1/1/2020 4:24:22 PM EST
[#23]
Quote History FN 57(Five Seven) Review. Good info. |
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Posted: 1/1/2020 4:27:02 PM EST
[#24]
Have not looked through the entire thread. Has this pistol been confirmed as cumming to market?
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Posted: 1/1/2020 4:28:33 PM EST
[#25]
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Have not looked through the entire thread. Has this pistol been confirmed as cumming to market? |
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Posted: 1/1/2020 4:29:07 PM EST
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Have not looked through the entire thread. Has this pistol been confirmed as cumming to market? |
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Posted: 1/1/2020 4:29:17 PM EST
[#27]
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Have not looked through the entire thread. Has this pistol been confirmed as cumming to market? |
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Posted: 1/1/2020 4:29:20 PM EST
[#28]
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So stupid complaining about safetie! Are you going to CCW this huge pistol........... Get over it! Complaining about safeties is getting so damn OLD. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Hey Ruger can you make a version without the "un-safety" lever? Manual safeties are just silly on pistols. Drop safeties, trigger safeties and even grip safeties are ok. Are you going to CCW this huge pistol........... Get over it! Complaining about safeties is getting so damn OLD. |
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Posted: 1/1/2020 4:30:53 PM EST
[#29]
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Looks like the FN57 with my axiom is only 5-6dB louder than a 9mm with 147gr ammo.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ir2hMH10I9M |
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Posted: 1/1/2020 4:31:25 PM EST
[#30]
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First thread I have seen that's mostly positive about a new handgun. Maybe Glock fanboys are all on vacation from ARFCOM...
I also want one! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Has there ever been a handgun thread in GD like this where people where actually exciteded about it and it got 16 pages? Note: i want a ruger 57! Lol
I also want one! |
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Posted: 1/1/2020 4:31:51 PM EST
[#31]
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The .22 LCP makes sense and is somewhat of a logical progression of the LCP design. A no-brainer it would seem. The 57 is another deal. Yes it seems to be well received by the masses. Will this turn into actual sales? Just like the micro 45s that some companies make. People say they're cool and interesting but nobody really buys them. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Ruger is winning. They’ve now sold me 2 firearms in the past week, guns I didn’t even know I wanted  The 57 is another deal. Yes it seems to be well received by the masses. Will this turn into actual sales? Just like the micro 45s that some companies make. People say they're cool and interesting but nobody really buys them. |
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Posted: 1/1/2020 4:34:15 PM EST
[#32]
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5-6 dB is significantly louder. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Looks like the FN57 with my axiom is only 5-6dB louder than a 9mm with 147gr ammo. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ir2hMH10I9M |
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Posted: 1/1/2020 4:36:57 PM EST
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Ones supersonic, the other subsonic, so no surprise really. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Looks like the FN57 with my axiom is only 5-6dB louder than a 9mm with 147gr ammo. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ir2hMH10I9MAnd there is factory 68gr subsonic ammo for 5.7mm, though it is hard to find, and I expect more sub ammo will be coming once the 5.7x28mm revolution picks up. |
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Posted: 1/1/2020 4:41:09 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ones supersonic, the other subsonic, so no surprise really. |
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Posted: 1/1/2020 4:43:16 PM EST
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yeah And there is factory 68gr subsonic ammo for 5.7mm, though it is hard to find, and I expect more sub ammo will be coming once the 5.7x28mm revolution picks up. |
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Posted: 1/1/2020 4:49:04 PM EST
[#36]
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Has this pistol been confirmed as cumming to market? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Has this pistol been confirmed as cumming to market? 
This is cumming: 
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Looks like the FN57 with my axiom is only 5-6dB louder than a 9mm with 147gr ammo. Quoted:
5-6 dB is significantly louder. 
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Posted: 1/1/2020 4:51:24 PM EST
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Just got my first request for one this morning. Put it on back order. We'll see how long it takes for it to show up
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Posted: 1/1/2020 4:53:59 PM EST
[#38]
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[ ] - available 30 round mags [ ] - some form of PCC or larger braced pistol (8 to 10 inch barrel) that uses the same mags Quote HistoryQuoted:
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 - 5.7x28 hand gun
- Reasonably priced!!!
- Pick rial
- Drilled for red dot
- The red dot plates are reasonably priced
- 20 round mags
- It actually got released!!!!!!Its only missing... [ ] - threaded barrel [ ] - FDE version... lol [ ] - some form of PCC or larger braced pistol (8 to 10 inch barrel) that uses the same mags |
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Posted: 1/1/2020 5:01:33 PM EST
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Why though? The whole point of this round it it's FAST. If I want to practice with subs I can use one of my 22lrs a lot cheaper. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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yeah And there is factory 68gr subsonic ammo for 5.7mm, though it is hard to find, and I expect more sub ammo will be coming once the 5.7x28mm revolution picks up. |
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Posted: 1/1/2020 5:03:05 PM EST
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So - if the FCS is the "firearm" - then we could have alternate grips - including one that takes FN mags...
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Posted: 1/1/2020 5:04:22 PM EST
[#41]
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So - if the FCS is the "firearm" - then we could have alternate grips - including one that takes FN mags... Hell we could have Glock-styled frames and you could have a Glock-57 |
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Posted: 1/1/2020 5:04:48 PM EST
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I'm going to wait.
-I'd like to see more review/critics -Hopefully this will make 5.7 ammo more common. -Waiting for the inevitable "Pro" version without a thumb safety/magazine safety(if it does have one) I'm interested for sure. Now all Ruger needs to do is: -Come out with a Ruger Carbine in 5.7 -Come out with a 10mm American 
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Posted: 1/1/2020 5:05:23 PM EST
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I'm going to wait. -I'd like to see more review/critics -Hopefully this will make 5.7 ammo more common. -Waiting for the inevitable "Pro" version without a thumb safety/magazine safety(if it does have one) I'm interested for sure. Now all Ruger needs to do is: -Come out with a Ruger Carbine in 5.7 -Come out with a 10mm American |
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Posted: 1/1/2020 5:11:53 PM EST
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yes, which would be hilarious Hell we could have Glock-styled frames and you could have a Glock-57 Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So - if the FCS is the "firearm" - then we could have alternate grips - including one that takes FN mags... Hell we could have Glock-styled frames and you could have a Glock-57 Aftermarket frames, like for FN mags or different grip styles, make some sense. Chassis's for PCC style firearms make even more sense. |
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Posted: 1/1/2020 5:17:13 PM EST
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Quote HistoryWhy is the front sight sloped? It should be level, yes??
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Posted: 1/1/2020 5:22:16 PM EST
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This is going to kill the kel Tec pmr 30........ now if ruger would make an mp7ish carbine or pistol to go with it |
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Posted: 1/1/2020 5:23:39 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: .415" Muzzle is flush with slide and there's not much meat there to counter bore for some type of threaded collar or adapter. Thank you |
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Posted: 1/1/2020 5:26:06 PM EST
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Why though? The whole point of this round it it's FAST. If I want to practice with subs I can use one of my 22lrs a lot cheaper. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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yeah And there is factory 68gr subsonic ammo for 5.7mm, though it is hard to find, and I expect more sub ammo will be coming once the 5.7x28mm revolution picks up. 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_hOrarNzOw As an aside, much of what we know about 5.7 performance is due to the tireless testing done by Buffman. If you like his videos, he could definitely use more subscribers. |
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Posted: 1/1/2020 5:27:16 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why is the front sight sloped? It should be level, yes?? 
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Posted: 1/1/2020 5:31:02 PM EST
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Are you going to CCW this huge pistol........... |
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