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Link Posted: 3/14/2023 9:20:20 PM EDT
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"Russians don't take a dump without a plan. And senior captains don't start something this dangerous without having thought the matter through."

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Mmmmm I dunno I think that's a great movie line but as far as I can tell Russians seem to be pretty loose in the planning department.
Link Posted: 3/14/2023 9:27:20 PM EDT
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No, a military aircraft getting intentionally destroyed in international airspace was *not* pretty common during the Cold War. US Recon aircraft flying into hostile airspace, yes. International airspace, no.
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Ukie simps are jerking furiously over the prospect of escalation...


An American asset was intentionally destroyed in international waters and this is all you have to say?
Speaks volumes about your patriotism.


An incident of a  type that that was pretty common during the cold war.  We didn’t go kinetic then, why do you want to go kinetic now? You remember the Cold War, yes?


No, a military aircraft getting intentionally destroyed in international airspace was *not* pretty common during the Cold War. US Recon aircraft flying into hostile airspace, yes. International airspace, no.


https://www.sw.propwashgang.org/shootdown_list.html
Link Posted: 3/14/2023 9:27:26 PM EDT
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This is Arfcom. Arf hates Hollywood but has simultaneously adapted their views of history, self and culture to Hollywood creations.
Link Posted: 3/14/2023 9:28:16 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 3/14/2023 9:28:55 PM EDT
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Dumping fuel by both aircraft on the drone is a deliberate act of aggression. All this talk of an accident is just BS.
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Dumping fuel by both aircraft on the drone is a deliberate act of aggression. All this talk of an accident is just BS.
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I haven't heard anyone defend the idea that it was an accident.
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I didn't say they were good planners and neither did the Admiral.  They do know how to play the misinformation/propaganda war very well.
Link Posted: 3/14/2023 9:34:13 PM EDT
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I didn't say they were good planners and neither did the Admiral.  They do know how to play the misinformation/propaganda war very well.
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Mmmmm I dunno I think that's a great movie line but as far as I can tell Russians seem to be pretty loose in the planning department.


I didn't say they were good planners and neither did the Admiral.  They do know how to play the misinformation/propaganda war very well.



Funny how they are shit at fighting a ground war but super genius at info war.
Link Posted: 3/14/2023 9:39:45 PM EDT
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WTF are we doing flying drones over the Black Sea.
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We don't have to give a reason over international air space. We can fly where we please. Have you forgotten what freedom is?
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Ukie simps are jerking furiously over the prospect of escalation...


An American asset was intentionally destroyed in international waters and this is all you have to say?
Speaks volumes about your patriotism.


An incident of a  type that that was pretty common during the cold war.  We didn’t go kinetic then, why do you want to go kinetic now? You remember the Cold War, yes?


No, a military aircraft getting intentionally destroyed in international airspace was *not* pretty common during the Cold War. US Recon aircraft flying into hostile airspace, yes. International airspace, no.


https://www.sw.propwashgang.org/shootdown_list.html


Did you actually read that list? It supports precisely what I said.
Link Posted: 3/14/2023 9:43:25 PM EDT
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Funny how they are shit at fighting a ground war but super genius at info war.
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Well, Putin has suckered a whole nation into believing his lies and quite a few on GD too.
Link Posted: 3/14/2023 9:49:14 PM EDT
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Kyiv in 3 days, bröther

@ryan_ruck do your thing
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Finally, World War 3 is coming!

Let's light this candle. Honestly, it's the only thing that will keep us from sliding into some woke clown world Hell anyways at this point.



Kyiv in 3 days, bröther

@ryan_ruck do your thing

@fadedsun Sorry for the delay, it's been a busy day. Not much time for distractions online.

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Link Posted: 3/14/2023 9:50:22 PM EDT
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Is really unfortunate that I don't believe that there was a collision. I simply don't believe anything our government says anymore.

Was our drone taken out by Russia jets and we don't want to escalate so we're blaming it on a collision?
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Link Posted: 3/14/2023 9:57:29 PM EDT
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Any of you reading this (but not any members here of course, that would be a CoC violation) who either voted for Biden, didn’t vote for trump because of feelz or bumpstocks or whatever faggot reason, or just didn’t vote at all because of muh principles:


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Link Posted: 3/14/2023 9:58:53 PM EDT
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This is Arfcom. Arf hates Hollywood but has simultaneously adapted their views of history, self and culture to Hollywood creations.
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This is Arfcom. Arf hates Hollywood but has simultaneously adapted their views of history, self and culture to Hollywood creations.


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Link Posted: 3/14/2023 10:01:20 PM EDT
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Did you actually read that list? It supports precisely what I said.
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Ukie simps are jerking furiously over the prospect of escalation...


An American asset was intentionally destroyed in international waters and this is all you have to say?
Speaks volumes about your patriotism.


An incident of a  type that that was pretty common during the cold war.  We didn’t go kinetic then, why do you want to go kinetic now? You remember the Cold War, yes?


No, a military aircraft getting intentionally destroyed in international airspace was *not* pretty common during the Cold War. US Recon aircraft flying into hostile airspace, yes. International airspace, no.


https://www.sw.propwashgang.org/shootdown_list.html


Did you actually read that list? It supports precisely what I said.

Skimmed it, yes.
A lot of actions over international water, including shoot downs on both sides.
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Any of you reading this (but not any members here of course, that would be a CoC violation) who either voted for Biden, didn’t vote for trump because of feelz or bumpstocks or whatever faggot reason, or just didn’t vote at all because of muh principles:


Go fuck yourselves.  You’re the reason shit like this is happening.





***looks at 2020… you serious bruh.
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Goose, we're caught in his jet wash !!!
Link Posted: 3/14/2023 10:11:07 PM EDT
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So they shot down a drone for tech recon, the US has their balls in a vice and says they "forced it down" into international waters to save face where likely a Russian naval element awaited recovery ops.
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We don't have to give a reason over international air space. We can fly where we please. Have you forgotten what freedom is?
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WTF are we doing flying drones over the Black Sea.


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We don't have to give a reason over international air space. We can fly where we please. Have you forgotten what freedom is?


Ok I hope Russia starts to fly fully armed, tactical nuclear bombers just outside our protected space every day for the next month

We don’t belong there. This war is just a big lie
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Ok I hope Russia starts to fly fully armed, tactical nuclear bombers just outside our protected space every day for the next month

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WTF are we doing flying drones over the Black Sea.


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We don't have to give a reason over international air space. We can fly where we please. Have you forgotten what freedom is?


Ok I hope Russia starts to fly fully armed, tactical nuclear bombers just outside our protected space every day for the next month

We don’t belong there. This war is just a big lie


Post # 1,000 to advocate for a nuclear armed adversary.  

Seriously, what an asshole.
Link Posted: 3/14/2023 10:28:59 PM EDT
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Ok I hope Russia starts to fly fully armed, tactical nuclear bombers just outside our protected space every day for the next month

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Thats an odd thing for an American patriot to be hoping for.  Its almost like something someone who is neither would say.
Link Posted: 3/14/2023 10:37:28 PM EDT
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If you disagree with the worst administration in US history, who has lied to us about everything, as they drag us to war, you are not patriotic.

Your view of Patroitism is massively sick and twisted.

Let this sink in, our forces should not be there.

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An American asset was intentionally destroyed in international waters and this is all you have to say?
Speaks volumes about your patriotism.

If you disagree with the worst administration in US history, who has lied to us about everything, as they drag us to war, you are not patriotic.

Your view of Patroitism is massively sick and twisted.

Let this sink in, our forces should not be there.

The US military and any other state has every right to operate anywhere in international waters or airspace.
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It’s international airspace.  What do you think we are doing ?
Link Posted: 3/14/2023 10:40:23 PM EDT
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So the Russians down a US drone in international airspace. Isn't this an act of war?
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This happened quite a few times during the Cold War, with both the USSR and China.
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Thank you brother for saying that!
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Any of you reading this (but not any members here of course, that would be a CoC violation) who either voted for Biden, didn't vote for trump because of feelz or bumpstocks or whatever faggot reason, or just didn't vote at all because of muh principles:


Go fuck yourselves.  You're the reason shit like this is happening.

Thank you brother for saying that!
Put up a better candidate next time and you won't have to worry about that.
Link Posted: 3/14/2023 10:44:22 PM EDT
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Where were you when KAL 007 was shot down?
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Calling out the patriotism of veterans is poor fucking form.

I'd call out the patriotism of any American  who is not outraged when our aircraft are downed by a foe.

Where were you when KAL 007 was shot down?
What does KAL stand for?

There's your answer. Throw out another whopper red herring while you're at it.
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What was described was that the Russians were flying over the drone dumping fuel on it for several passes.  On the last pass the SU-27 hit the drone causing damage to both and the drone was then deliberately put down in the Black Sea. Under those circumstances it seems plausible to me.  Allegedly we may be seeing the footage soon.
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Hopefully, will answer a lot of questions here lol. I don't see why they wouldn't release it, it's great footage and it's obvious what happens lol.
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Put up a better candidate next time and you won't have to worry about that.
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Any of you reading this (but not any members here of course, that would be a CoC violation) who either voted for Biden, didn't vote for trump because of feelz or bumpstocks or whatever faggot reason, or just didn't vote at all because of muh principles:


Go fuck yourselves.  You're the reason shit like this is happening.

Thank you brother for saying that!
Put up a better candidate next time and you won't have to worry about that.
Most votes for any sitting president. Gained ground in states where fair elections were held. The candidate was fine.
Link Posted: 3/14/2023 10:48:25 PM EDT
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What does KAL stand for?

There's your answer. Throw out another whopper red herring while you're at it.
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Calling out the patriotism of veterans is poor fucking form.

I'd call out the patriotism of any American  who is not outraged when our aircraft are downed by a foe.

Where were you when KAL 007 was shot down?
What does KAL stand for?

There's your answer. Throw out another whopper red herring while you're at it.




Oh, that's just 1 of 61 Americans that were on board.
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Show me a way to undo what's been done. I'd love to be wrong.
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Patriotism? Our government labeled us domestic terrorists, and enemies of the state for absolutely no reason other than their hatred towards us. Fuck patriotism, they can get fucked. Any remaining "patriot" is suffering from battered wife syndrome.


Just because the democrats did this, you are ready to give up on your country?
What's next, siding with its enemies like Russia, China and Iran?
It's not what the patriots I know do.



Show me a way to undo what's been done. I'd love to be wrong.
Show what you have done to prevent the changes you don't like
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I was at GFAFB..it got pretty fucking sporty around there for a bit
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We are doing multiples of what they were and acknowledging it in the media. Our leadership is really moronic.
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So the Russians down a US drone in international airspace. Isn't this an act of war?


I think we are well past that. We are providing free weapons, training and picking targets. We are already at war, it is just a matter of escalation.

So like the Russians did in Korea and Vietnam. I must have missed the war.


We are doing multiples of what they were and acknowledging it in the media. Our leadership is really moronic.

The Russians were flying fighters against us in Korea, so no, we are not doing stuff on the level of what they did.
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I was at GFAFB..it got pretty fucking sporty around there for a bit
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I was at GFAFB..it got pretty fucking sporty around there for a bit



Uh.. wow.  

I was an air force brat on GFAFB then.  I remember my father being pretty spooked about it.
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It’s all so tiresome.
Link Posted: 3/14/2023 10:57:08 PM EDT
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More foreigner owned businesses in the US? Of course I disagree with it. How about reducing taxation and regulation so we can make our own semiconductors? You honestly think he does it if his love for the US or what he and his corrupt family can get out of it?
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Are you for real? Intel is a foreign owned business now?
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During WW2 pilots on occasion used the wings of their planes to tilt buzz bombs and alter their coarse toward unoccupied areas, so it depends on what kind of colliding actually occurred
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Ok I hope Russia starts to fly fully armed, tactical nuclear bombers just outside our protected space every day for the next month

We don't belong there. This war is just a big lie
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WTF are we doing flying drones over the Black Sea.


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We don't have to give a reason over international air space. We can fly where we please. Have you forgotten what freedom is?


Ok I hope Russia starts to fly fully armed, tactical nuclear bombers just outside our protected space every day for the next month

We don't belong there. This war is just a big lie
They make runs at AK all the time, do you live under a rock?

If they come close again we can shoot them down right? Because they shouldn't be there, yes?
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Well the back of the coin is the view that in order for America to be great and wonderful she also has to be the world's police force.

But we have been intervening in other countries affairs for so long they either A) Hate us or B) Expect us to pick up their slack

Keep in mind the same people saying send more to Ukraine are going to tell you that social security is welfare and fuck the old people.  

The truth is that conservatism needs a complete overhaul cause most "patriots" as just big government loving boomers.
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Patriotism? Our government labeled us domestic terrorists, and enemies of the state for absolutely no reason other than their hatred towards us. Fuck patriotism, they can get fucked. Any remaining “patriot” is suffering from battered wife syndrome.


Just because the democrats did this, you are ready to give up on your country?
What’s next, siding with its enemies like Russia, China and Iran?
It’s not what the patriots I know do.

How is not wanting to send billions to another country giving up on ours? That makes no sense.


Well the back of the coin is the view that in order for America to be great and wonderful she also has to be the world's police force.

But we have been intervening in other countries affairs for so long they either A) Hate us or B) Expect us to pick up their slack

Keep in mind the same people saying send more to Ukraine are going to tell you that social security is welfare and fuck the old people.  

The truth is that conservatism needs a complete overhaul cause most "patriots" as just big government loving boomers.



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Patriotism? Our government labeled us domestic terrorists, and enemies of the state for absolutely no reason other than their hatred towards us. Fuck patriotism, they can get fucked. Any remaining “patriot” is suffering from battered wife syndrome.


Just because the democrats did this, you are ready to give up on your country?
What’s next, siding with its enemies like Russia, China and Iran?
It’s not what the patriots I know do.

How is not wanting to send billions to another country giving up on ours? That makes no sense.


Well the back of the coin is the view that in order for America to be great and wonderful she also has to be the world's police force.

But we have been intervening in other countries affairs for so long they either A) Hate us or B) Expect us to pick up their slack

Keep in mind the same people saying send more to Ukraine are going to tell you that social security is welfare and fuck the old people.  

The truth is that conservatism needs a complete overhaul cause most "patriots" as just big government loving boomers.



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And?

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Go fuck yourselves.  You're the reason shit like this is happening.

Thank you brother for saying that!
Put up a better candidate next time and you won't have to worry about that.
Most votes for any sitting president. Gained ground in states where fair elections were held. The candidate was fine.
Biden had the most votes for any presidential candidate in history.
Was that because he is some super star and everyone likes him? No, a large part of those votes were voting against Don the con.

Face it--Don cannot win a general election, he's damaged goods and needs to go away doing something else and enjoy his remaining time on this earth.
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I'll be blut.

You are a traitor, and deserve all that traitors get.

And the Russians HAVE been doing just that for years and years, with only a short pause due to the collapse of the Soviet Union.

But then again, I suspect your just a Russian psyop account anyways.
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Biden had the most votes for any presidential candidate in history.
Was that because he is some super star and everyone likes him? No, a large part of those votes were voting against Don the con.

Face it--Don cannot win a general election, he's damaged goods and needs to go away doing something else and enjoy his remaining time on this earth.
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Any of you reading this (but not any members here of course, that would be a CoC violation) who either voted for Biden, didn't vote for trump because of feelz or bumpstocks or whatever faggot reason, or just didn't vote at all because of muh principles:


Go fuck yourselves.  You're the reason shit like this is happening.

Thank you brother for saying that!
Put up a better candidate next time and you won't have to worry about that.
Most votes for any sitting president. Gained ground in states where fair elections were held. The candidate was fine.
Biden had the most votes for any presidential candidate in history.
Was that because he is some super star and everyone likes him? No, a large part of those votes were voting against Don the con.

Face it--Don cannot win a general election, he's damaged goods and needs to go away doing something else and enjoy his remaining time on this earth.



Guys like you are gonna vote harder till you're loaded onto a train.
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Patriotism? Our government labeled us domestic terrorists, and enemies of the state for absolutely no reason other than their hatred towards us. Fuck patriotism, they can get fucked. Any remaining “patriot” is suffering from battered wife syndrome.


Just because the democrats did this, you are ready to give up on your country?
What’s next, siding with its enemies like Russia, China and Iran?
It’s not what the patriots I know do.

How is not wanting to send billions to another country giving up on ours? That makes no sense.


Well the back of the coin is the view that in order for America to be great and wonderful she also has to be the world's police force.

But we have been intervening in other countries affairs for so long they either A) Hate us or B) Expect us to pick up their slack

Keep in mind the same people saying send more to Ukraine are going to tell you that social security is welfare and fuck the old people.  

The truth is that conservatism needs a complete overhaul cause most "patriots" as just big government loving boomers.



https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/102941/2021_us_budget_jpg-2746272.JPG



And?


Link Posted: 3/14/2023 11:16:32 PM EDT
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So you would agree then that Russia should not down civilian airliners that accidently go into their airspace as well as aircraft operating in international airspace.

If we do not have some response to this they will 100% do it again.
Link Posted: 3/14/2023 11:19:14 PM EDT
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Patriotism? Our government labeled us domestic terrorists, and enemies of the state for absolutely no reason other than their hatred towards us. Fuck patriotism, they can get fucked. Any remaining “patriot” is suffering from battered wife syndrome.


Just because the democrats did this, you are ready to give up on your country?
What’s next, siding with its enemies like Russia, China and Iran?
It’s not what the patriots I know do.

How is not wanting to send billions to another country giving up on ours? That makes no sense.


Well the back of the coin is the view that in order for America to be great and wonderful she also has to be the world's police force.

But we have been intervening in other countries affairs for so long they either A) Hate us or B) Expect us to pick up their slack

Keep in mind the same people saying send more to Ukraine are going to tell you that social security is welfare and fuck the old people.  

The truth is that conservatism needs a complete overhaul cause most "patriots" as just big government loving boomers.



https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/102941/2021_us_budget_jpg-2746272.JPG



And?


https://c.tenor.com/7OAwgxBH998AAAAC/tenor.gif



Use the graph to make a point but I really do love that meme that was hilarious.  Thank you.
Link Posted: 3/14/2023 11:22:33 PM EDT
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If we do not have some response to this they will 100% do it again.
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So you would agree then that Russia should not down civilian airliners that accidently go into their airspace as well as aircraft operating in international airspace.

If we do not have some response to this they will 100% do it again.


lol..you know as well as I do there was no "accidently off course" about that.
Link Posted: 3/14/2023 11:30:34 PM EDT
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Use the graph to make a point but I really do love that meme that was hilarious.  Thank you.
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Patriotism? Our government labeled us domestic terrorists, and enemies of the state for absolutely no reason other than their hatred towards us. Fuck patriotism, they can get fucked. Any remaining “patriot” is suffering from battered wife syndrome.


Just because the democrats did this, you are ready to give up on your country?
What’s next, siding with its enemies like Russia, China and Iran?
It’s not what the patriots I know do.

How is not wanting to send billions to another country giving up on ours? That makes no sense.


Well the back of the coin is the view that in order for America to be great and wonderful she also has to be the world's police force.

But we have been intervening in other countries affairs for so long they either A) Hate us or B) Expect us to pick up their slack

Keep in mind the same people saying send more to Ukraine are going to tell you that social security is welfare and fuck the old people.  

The truth is that conservatism needs a complete overhaul cause most "patriots" as just big government loving boomers.



https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/102941/2021_us_budget_jpg-2746272.JPG



And?


https://c.tenor.com/7OAwgxBH998AAAAC/tenor.gif



Use the graph to make a point but I really do love that meme that was hilarious.  Thank you.

Oh, okay.

A Ponzi Scheme backed by deluded Boomers is bankrupting the US, literally nothing else.
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