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Quoted: Unvetted from an acquaintance in Portland. Sounds about right for 2020 Portland: Heads up! ???????????????????? Just wrapped up one of the busiest shifts I’ve worked in my nearly 18 years in the National Weather Service. After a long year of dead weather, I feel alive again ?? ?? Portland is seriously looking down the barrel of a severe fire weather event later tomorrow through Wednesday - one that, if it occurs how forecast models have been consistently been portraying for the past 2 days, will be the kind of fire weather event the Portland area only sees once every 50+ years. ?? Our forecast is on the conservative side, but still ridiculous for this time of year. East winds, developing later tomorrow, then gusts increasing to 35-45 mph in the metro area and gusts 60-80 mph in the hills. Meanwhile, relative humidity drops to around 10-15% by Tuesday and perhaps into the 5-10% range if the drier forecasts come true. ?? If you’re from Sonoma County and this sounds familiar, it should. It’s essentially the same type of weather pattern that caused fire to rage into Santa Rosa in Oct 2017. ?? If you’re in Portland, don’t be surprised if your power gets shut off sometime Monday and/or Tuesday. This is the kind of event that may cause power companies to de-energize their power lines to prevent them from starting fires if they get blown down. Such a fire destroyed neighborhoods in my hometown of Santa Rosa. ?? I can already imagine the conspiracy theories that would fly on both sides of the political spectrum if power gets shut down. If anyone tells you it was Antifa or white supremacists or China who shut down power, please laugh at their face for me. It’s being done to keep us safe. ?? Remember: No spark, no fire. No fire, and we’ll get through this without tragedy. For those who remember Sep 2017 and the Eagle Creek Fire, this appears to be 25-50% stronger than the wind event that caused that fire to spread nearly 20 miles in one night. That “weaker” event caused flaming embers from Oregon to blow across the massive Columbia River and started a fire 1-2 miles away on the Washington side. ?? There will probably be some damage from the wind alone. Branches will break, and debris that has gathered since it was last windy will be shaken down. If this event turns out to be as strong or stronger than current models suggest to me, we could see occasional East wind gusts 45-55 mph IN PORTLAND. ?? If the higher-end projections pan out, this will be a very memorable wind event with gusts potentially as high as 60-70 mph in Portland. With trees still green and fully leafed out, this would cause a significant amount of damage. ?? In case you can’t tell - I’m am EXTREMELY nervous about this event. It has Portland Firestorm written all over it. Let’s be smart and make sure thar doesn’t happen. ?? Stay safe and smart out there. Hopefully it turns out that we’re all over-forecasting this event. But I’m going to make sure my cell phone is charged tomorrow through Tuesday, that’s for sure. View Quote So.. you are saying Portland Oregon could burn from a single "unintentional" cigarette tossed out of a moving car window.... .. "honey im out of cigarettes i gotta go to the store for some..." "you don't smoke.." "I'm starting" |
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Quoted: Unvetted from an acquaintance in Portland. Sounds about right for 2020 Portland: Heads up! ???????????????????? Just wrapped up one of the busiest shifts I’ve worked in my nearly 18 years in the National Weather Service. After a long year of dead weather, I feel alive again ?? ?? Portland is seriously looking down the barrel of a severe fire weather event later tomorrow through Wednesday - one that, if it occurs how forecast models have been consistently been portraying for the past 2 days, will be the kind of fire weather event the Portland area only sees once every 50+ years. View Quote "Severe fire weather event"? Are we just making up now like the Left? |
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Quoted: "Severe fire weather event"? Are we just making up now like the Left? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Unvetted from an acquaintance in Portland. Sounds about right for 2020 Portland: Heads up! ???????????????????? Just wrapped up one of the busiest shifts I’ve worked in my nearly 18 years in the National Weather Service. After a long year of dead weather, I feel alive again ?? ?? Portland is seriously looking down the barrel of a severe fire weather event later tomorrow through Wednesday - one that, if it occurs how forecast models have been consistently been portraying for the past 2 days, will be the kind of fire weather event the Portland area only sees once every 50+ years. "Severe fire weather event"? Are we just making up now like the Left? No. They just described a red flag warning. And Portland has one. |
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Looks like we could get rid of the EPA if we just booted California from the Union. Polluting greenies hypocrites.
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That smoke is a known cancer causing agent and was not labeled as such when Cali exported it. Nevada should file a lawsuit.
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Quoted: That smoke is a known cancer causing agent and was not labeled as such when Cali exported it. Nevada should file a lawsuit. View Quote Honestly, how realistic would it be to sue California for their retarded environmental policies that have led to these fires? It doesn't seem like any other state has this issue. |
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Will be in SoCal next Friday. Can ya'll please put out the fires before I get there?
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Quoted: Wife and I took a trip up to Leavitt Lake off 108 yesterday morning. It was beautiful when we got there. About 4 PM a smoke cloud moved in, blocked the sun and dropped the tempo about 10 degrees almost immediately. There was ash all over the truck this morning and though it had a cleared a bit it was still pretty bad and likely to do a repeat this afternoon we just packed up and head home. No smoke in the sac valley and the pool temp is perfect. This is the shit rolling in from the south yesterday. https://i.imgur.com/UomJsE0.jpg View Quote I went down to Sonora Pass yesterday from Lake Tahoe via 395 to pick up my wife and her hiking partner who were on the Pacific Crest Trail. They had just spent the last six days hiking from Yosemite up to 108. When they saw the Slink Fire smoke plume in the distance along their planned route they decided to bail and hike the next section some other time. Much like for you conditions changed in a matter of a few hours from mostly clear to completely miserable for us. That Creek Fire really blew up and pumped smoke north along the spine of the Sierras. |
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It’s bad, man. Big one up near Shaver & Huntington Lakes started a day or so ago and it’s spreading fast. I live about an hour away, down the mountain. Nearly everyone up there is a solid, patriotic American. Lots of horse trailers on the freeway today, coming down from the evacuation zones
The parts of CA that burn are almost never the parts that Arfcom would celebrate burning if they really knew. Quite the opposite, really |
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Quoted: It’s bad, man. Big one up near Shaver & Huntington Lakes started a day or so ago and it’s spreading fast. I live about an hour away, down the mountain. Nearly everyone up there is a solid, patriotic American. Lots of horse trailers on the freeway today, coming down from the evacuation zones The parts of CA that burn are almost never the parts that Arfcom would celebrate burning if they really knew. Quite the opposite, really View Quote We know, but we still blame California government for their piss poor land management [or lack of it] that contributes to such immense fires due to so much dead fuel and it's lack of fire buffers. |
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Quoted: California is asshole. View Quote Whoah now—we banned ourselves from having guns so that YOU could have more. Is it our fault that traitors left our great land of GREAT WEATHER to populate your states? You could deal with them roughly, but you choose not to. This is no concern of ours. |
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Quoted: A lot of my friends in Bozeman aren’t laughing. Bridgers are on fire yo. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: *Laughs In Montanan* Forecast for tomorrow? High of 50, rain, snow above 6000'. Happy Labor Day! A lot of my friends in Bozeman aren’t laughing. Bridgers are on fire yo. It's a fact of life here. Wildfires every year. Three years ago when I started my house near Plains, the mountains along the Clark Fork were on fire. I couldn't see across my property. The year before that, everything near where I lived in Hot Springs burned. The next year, everything in Washington and Idaho was on fire, and we got all the smoke. Last year the area 7 miles down the road burned. Other than that, last year wasn't too bad. This year it's fires near Hot Springs, Perma, Dixon, and south of Missoula. Every year. Hot, dry, windy, lightning storms with no rain, and this is what we get. Here's hoping tomorrow's weather helps. |
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Quoted: We know, but we still blame California government for their piss poor land management [or lack of it] that contributes to such immense fires due to so much dead fuel and it's lack of fire buffers. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: It’s bad, man. Big one up near Shaver & Huntington Lakes started a day or so ago and it’s spreading fast. I live about an hour away, down the mountain. Nearly everyone up there is a solid, patriotic American. Lots of horse trailers on the freeway today, coming down from the evacuation zones The parts of CA that burn are almost never the parts that Arfcom would celebrate burning if they really knew. Quite the opposite, really We know, but we still blame California government for their piss poor land management [or lack of it] that contributes to such immense fires due to so much dead fuel and it's lack of fire buffers. Preaching to the choir One of my favorite secluded shooting spots is up that way. There have been insane amounts of dead trees up there since the drought peaked a few years ago. They been clearing them out but not like their lives depended on it, which is what needed to be done. I often thought, on my way up there, how much of a tinderbox the area is, and how bad it would be if it went up. |
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I was in Reno last week. It was pretty obvious there. Lots of smoke.
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Quoted: My wife keeps talking about this place where the beer flows like wine. Where beautiful women instinctively flock like the salmon of Capistrano... I'm talking about a little place called Utah. She’s never been there, but has this image of a magical land that’s anywhere but California. So, yah. Watch your corn hole. We might be going in dry. View Quote we're full... |
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That’s what happens with the “Smoky the Bear” mentality. Periodic prescribed fires would prevent this.
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Just like that 300 years of motorcycle green stickers progress went backwards on pollution.
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"Gender reveals" are the dumbest shit ever. Charge them suppression costs. |
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You mean strict government control over industry and the environment isn't working? How can that be?
Maybe they can try passing a law making it illegal for the forests to burn. |
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Quoted: It's a fact of life here. Wildfires every year. Three years ago when I started my house near Plains, the mountains along the Clark Fork were on fire. I couldn't see across my property. The year before that, everything near where I lived in Hot Springs burned. The next year, everything in Washington and Idaho was on fire, and we got all the smoke. Last year the area 7 miles down the road burned. Other than that, last year wasn't too bad. This year it's fires near Hot Springs, Perma, Dixon, and south of Missoula. Every year. Hot, dry, windy, lightning storms with no rain, and this is what we get. Here's hoping tomorrow's weather helps. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: *Laughs In Montanan* Forecast for tomorrow? High of 50, rain, snow above 6000'. Happy Labor Day! A lot of my friends in Bozeman aren’t laughing. Bridgers are on fire yo. It's a fact of life here. Wildfires every year. Three years ago when I started my house near Plains, the mountains along the Clark Fork were on fire. I couldn't see across my property. The year before that, everything near where I lived in Hot Springs burned. The next year, everything in Washington and Idaho was on fire, and we got all the smoke. Last year the area 7 miles down the road burned. Other than that, last year wasn't too bad. This year it's fires near Hot Springs, Perma, Dixon, and south of Missoula. Every year. Hot, dry, windy, lightning storms with no rain, and this is what we get. Here's hoping tomorrow's weather helps. And... This has probably been the most mild fire season in the past 10 years. Just 3 summers ago, my county had over 100k acres on fire, with the entire western part of our county evacuated within 4 days. The fires started in mid July and weren't out until around this time in September. The put it bluntly, 7k acres in 4 days, isn't really that bad of a fire. The Bozeman people are freaking out because they generally get their fires put out ASAP because of the minimal wilderness areas they let burn in other parts of the state. And, because "OMFG WHERE WILL WE SKI AND HIKE TO TO TAKE A COOL PICTURE I CAN POST ON SOCIAL MEDIA!!!!!!!" Bozeman has had it easy for a while, because "important" people want those fires out ASAP, and that's what's been happening. This fire as of midnight, has over 200 people working on it, and crews and air assets have been diverted from other fires to this one. Crews in my fire district working are being pulled from fires where I live, to go protect some rich mofos ski and hiking areas, while letting my county burn. The people in Bozeman should feel lucky that they are getting all the attention, while other parts in the state are told to go fuck themselves. And, while it sucks to see my state, and my fellow citizens areas of fire, I'm super sick about Missoula and Bozeman constantly getting special treatment than just about any other part of the state. |
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Quoted: It's a fact of life here. Wildfires every year. Three years ago when I started my house near Plains, the mountains along the Clark Fork were on fire. I couldn't see across my property. The year before that, everything near where I lived in Hot Springs burned. The next year, everything in Washington and Idaho was on fire, and we got all the smoke. Last year the area 7 miles down the road burned. Other than that, last year wasn't too bad. This year it's fires near Hot Springs, Perma, Dixon, and south of Missoula. Every year. Hot, dry, windy, lightning storms with no rain, and this is what we get. Here's hoping tomorrow's weather helps. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: *Laughs In Montanan* Forecast for tomorrow? High of 50, rain, snow above 6000'. Happy Labor Day! A lot of my friends in Bozeman aren’t laughing. Bridgers are on fire yo. It's a fact of life here. Wildfires every year. Three years ago when I started my house near Plains, the mountains along the Clark Fork were on fire. I couldn't see across my property. The year before that, everything near where I lived in Hot Springs burned. The next year, everything in Washington and Idaho was on fire, and we got all the smoke. Last year the area 7 miles down the road burned. Other than that, last year wasn't too bad. This year it's fires near Hot Springs, Perma, Dixon, and south of Missoula. Every year. Hot, dry, windy, lightning storms with no rain, and this is what we get. Here's hoping tomorrow's weather helps. I hope the weather helps and am well aware it’s a fact of life. A number of friends are more directly impacted this year. Luckily, no one has lost a home yet. I still remember the first day at my first real job in Helena. Smoke was so thick I could see across Last Chance Gulch. Wild land fires are a way of life in the West, including a California. It burns every year. |
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Quoted: I think I remember reading here and seeing links about how Cali used to be very marshy with more lakes but when they started damming up th rivers for power plants it dried everything up and thats why their in this mess now? Is that right? View Quote Controlling the water is why the central valley grows so much food stuff. The fires aren’t generally occurring in the valley, they are occurring in the hills & mountains... |
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Maybe if they allowed logging of timber this wouldn't happen so much...last I knew they couldn't even build fire roads without protests. Nope just let all the dead stuff pile up and dry out, don't allow access and hope there is never lightning.
Its the same Dems in charge that will not allow power plants to be built then cry when there is not enough power then wave in more illegals. Fuck it, let the state burn and let it go dark till they realize they voted for all of this...all of it. They locked out any sanity from their state thus its now a burning blacked out insane asylum. |
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Quoted: "Gender reveals" are the dumbest shit ever. Charge them suppression costs. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: "Gender reveals" are the dumbest shit ever. Charge them suppression costs. https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/People-Are-Stupid-Dep-t-Gender-Reveal-Party-Starts-7000-Acre-Fire/5-2366482/... |
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We should fine them carbon credits based on their cap and trade BS. Bankrupt the state every year until they do the brush clean up like they're supposed to to mitigate fires.
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Quoted: And... This has probably been the most mild fire season in the past 10 years. View Quote I just worry that the season isn't over yet. Over here, in the Sanders County and surrounding areas, last year was super mild for fires. It was a welcome relief. Hardly any smoke from other areas, either. This year the fires have been fairly small, so far, but the smoke has been as bad as other years. One night it was so bad that my indoor upstairs bedroom smoke detector woke me up with a false alarm. Crazy. |
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CA needs to be fined for their massive carbon footprint due to fires.
CA is single handedly making global warming |
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I want to see calcs on how much greenhouse gas these fires have resulted in.
Easy to make the argument that all the BS fire suppression and lack of timber harvesting has done more to indirectly now affect climate change than any number of cars or power plants. |
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Quoted: Quoted: My wife keeps talking about this place where the beer flows like wine. Where beautiful women instinctively flock like the salmon of Capistrano... I'm talking about a little place called Utah. She’s never been there, but has this image of a magical land that’s anywhere but California. So, yah. Watch your corn hole. We might be going in dry. we're full... Apparently not. Residential real estate is way easier to acquire in UT than ID. |
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Quoted: Yep, I remember not too long ago when this was not an annual thing. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Back before you had to preserve all the flammable shit in the name of the environment this was less of an issue. Yep, I remember not too long ago when this was not an annual thing. Part of that is the development and expansion of rural communities. Over the last few decades people have spread into heavily wooded areas and there is has not been a great enough effort or ability to cut trees and maintain the surrounding grounds. As you not, there is so much fuel in so many places the fires are not even close to manageable. |
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Fires are a natural thing. For many years we have put out Forrest fires which has honestly done more harm than good.
So in the forrest duff falls from the trees to the forrest floor. The fires burn that off, so with us stopping the fires that duff only builds up. So now when it catches fire, it’s completely uncontrollable much much worse. |
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