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Link Posted: 5/20/2020 10:03:07 AM EDT
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maybe the ted cruz spying will be the one that is actually prosecuted--


everyone knows potus was

but if they are prosecuted for spying on potus---orange man bad--so it's ok


this would insulate

maybe it will be spying on bernie or the msm itself?

just spitball
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Bernie would be the spark that ignites.
Link Posted: 5/20/2020 10:04:15 AM EDT
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I could be wrong, but believe it was FBHO tenure when that propaganda law was passed. 
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Smith-Mundt Modernization Act of 2012 - Congress.gov

Link Posted: 5/20/2020 10:07:39 AM EDT
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I could be wrong, but believe it was FBHO tenure when that propaganda law was passed. 
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Originally Posted By MCSquared:
Originally Posted By Mainsail:
This seems to be a common theme in the Q drops; the MSM is coordinated and spreading misinformation and disinformation.  

So what's being done about it?  I mean, c'mon, if the news was reported fairly and accurately, we'd be miles ahead of where we are right now.  You want to talk about an awakening- well there's the awakening. 

At some point we're going to reach critical mass- where all the people that are ever going to be awake are awake, and the rest will stubbornly hang on to what the MSM tells them.  Does anyone remember any Q post addressing a solution instead of just pointing it out?

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A major part of the solution is pointing it out, making the general public aware.

There was a law passed a while ago that allows "news" to be propaganda.  That law needs to be repealed, but for that to happen we need both houses of Congress and the Presidency.  Same for the law that protects InstaRedTwitBook when they censor opposing political viewpoints.


I could be wrong, but believe it was FBHO tenure when that propaganda law was passed. 


I believe you are correct, but I couldn't recall for sure.
Link Posted: 5/20/2020 10:12:20 AM EDT
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I believe you are correct, but I couldn't recall for sure.
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Look at the post above yours.
Link Posted: 5/20/2020 10:25:17 AM EDT
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I was behind for a few days and read through the last 10 pages probably too quickly. I did see mentioned, but want to read-emphasize, FLYNN'S DOMINICAN REPUBLIC CALL WITH KISLYIAK WAS NOT UNMASKED despite msm saying such over and over. Keep this fresh in our minds. No unmasking on date of call Dec. 29th, nor the 30th, 31st, 1st, 2nd or 3rd, yet Obarna already had the call Transcript for his PDB (presidential daily brief). This means Obarna ordered the call himself.

Also, Flynn was never questioned by the FBI about sanctions. That's what he's indicted for, but was never asked the question.

Finally, Bongino has been vetting the newly released Biclen Ukraine quid-pro-quo calls. I am very interested to hear his take today as he has pretty good sources and connections.
Link Posted: 5/20/2020 10:47:06 AM EDT
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Look at the post above yours.
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I believe you are correct, but I couldn't recall for sure.


Look at the post above yours.


Saw it, thanks!
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I get it now. He turned the responsibility for loosening restrictions to the states—knowing the Blue Governors would go full retard authoritarian.

AND... Knowing full well the DNC would try to hang the ensuing “spike” on him (also knowing any new case numbers would be small).

Now, he gives agencies the ability to ignore costly, stupid regulations and free the economy to work as it should.

SO, in the Fall, it will be a referendum on draconian Blue State authoritarianism and Red State Free Market Capitalism.

Genius.

TC
Link Posted: 5/20/2020 11:22:18 AM EDT
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Hummm extradition? 

Que "Joe you have to go back" meme 

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Hummm extradition? 

Que "Joe you have to go back" meme 



Humor notwithstanding, extradition of our current or former administration officials is a line of precedent that we must never cross. Ever. Period.
Link Posted: 5/20/2020 11:22:36 AM EDT
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Oh yes. Never considered that as a possibility.

That would definitely get us over the hump!!
Link Posted: 5/20/2020 11:25:02 AM EDT
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Humor notwithstanding, extradition of our current or former administration officials is a line of precedent that we must never cross. Ever. Period.
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Originally Posted By Klee:
Originally Posted By BM1455:




Hummm extradition? 

Que "Joe you have to go back" meme 



Humor notwithstanding, extradition of our current or former administration officials is a line of precedent that we must never cross. Ever. Period.


What if a former POTUS or former high ranking government official flees to a foreign nation to seek protection from federal indictment and/or military tribunal. No humor, do you seek extradiction?
Link Posted: 5/20/2020 11:42:50 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By mnvwguy02:


Humor notwithstanding, extradition of our current or former administration officials is a line of precedent that we must never cross. Ever. Period.
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Originally Posted By mnvwguy02:
Originally Posted By Klee:
Originally Posted By BM1455:


Hummm extradition? 

Que "Joe you have to go back" meme 



Humor notwithstanding, extradition of our current or former administration officials is a line of precedent that we must never cross. Ever. Period.


I disagree.  

Don't get me wrong, it shouldn't be a blanket "You were indicted, you go", but rather it should be an option on a case by case basis.

And before the possibility of a corrupt person being elected again comes up, we MUST clean up our electoral process, and our educational process, along with the media.
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What if a former POTUS or former high ranking government official flees to a foreign nation to seek protection from federal indictment and/or military tribunal. No humor, do you seek extradiction?
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You misunderstand, and I was not clear.

If a former US official is on trial in the US and they’ve fled, absolutely try to get them back here. I’ve made no argument to the contrary.

We must never send our former officials to another nation so that foreign nation can put them on trial. If they were naughty, that is a problem we deal with within this nation.
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I get it now. He turned the responsibility for loosening restrictions to the states—knowing the Blue Governors would go full retard authoritarian. 

AND... Knowing full well the DNC would try to hang the ensuing “spike” on him (also knowing any new case numbers would be small).

Now, he gives agencies the ability to ignore costly, stupid regulations and free the economy to work as it should.

SO, in the Fall, it will be a referendum on draconian Blue State authoritarianism and Red State Free Market Capitalism.

Genius.

TC
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Why did POTUS reply to a tweet from May 30, 2019?

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0bama pioneered using drones on US citizens in gray areas didn't he?
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Fuck that. That cocksucker spent one BILLION dollars that belongs to your children. I'd personally hand deliver him myself if I could. Hope they fucking execute him for all I care. These treasonous fucks walk around with my/our money in their pocket and just expect me/us to keep picking up the tab for their lavish lifestyles and paying for little Timmy to fuck hookers. If these son of a bitches don't face justice in the next five years, there's some COC shit I'm prepared to do to collect

see my sig line.....it ain't just a catch phrase
Link Posted: 5/20/2020 12:19:05 PM EDT
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Humor notwithstanding, extradition of our current or former administration officials is a line of precedent that we must never cross. Ever. Period.
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Originally Posted By BM1455:




Hummm extradition? 

Que "Joe you have to go back" meme 



Humor notwithstanding, extradition of our current or former administration officials is a line of precedent that we must never cross. Ever. Period.



I know that, my sarcasm  I guess was not clear.

My point is that the extradition demand from Ukraine Trump would have to refuse to allow it and that Trump would have "saved" Biden from prosecution.

Nuclear Head Explosions from the left.
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Why did POTUS reply to a tweet from May 30, 2019?

WWG1WGA!!!

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One year marker?  5/30/2020 ?
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You misunderstand, and I was not clear.

If a former US official is on trial in the US and they’ve fled, absolutely try to get them back here. I’ve made no argument to the contrary.

We must never send our former officials to another nation so that foreign nation can put them on trial. If they were naughty, that is a problem we deal with within this nation.
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With all due respect, the D's have spent years & years patiently explaining that "No one is above the law". Perhaps it's time for them and Beijing Biden to put up or shut up. I'm over all that bs. If I committed or am responsible for criminal behavior in another country, then like El Chapo, I would be extradited. Arguably, Joe and the Obama administration are responsible for many deaths in several countries via their malfeasance.
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Fuck that. That cocksucker spent one BILLION dollars that belongs to your children. I'd personally hand deliver him myself if I could. Hope they fucking execute him for all I care. These treasonous fucks walk around with my/our money in their pocket and just expect me/us to keep picking up the tab for their lavish lifestyles and paying for little Timmy to fuck hookers. If these son of a bitches don't face justice in the next five years, there's some COC shit I'm prepared to do to collect 

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I believe he's talking about handing our own to another country. I too can never support that, no matter whom is getting handed over.

We have a law on the books that dictates we invade the Hague in order to break our servicemen out because we refuse to subject Americans to an international court - we deal with our own.

I expect that we will deal with those that need dealing with in time (though I am very much a member of the "please let it start soon" camp).

Now, fetching one of our own (don't think I have to say who) from a non-extradition treaty country? Sign me the fuck up.
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I disagree.  

Don't get me wrong, it shouldn't be a blanket "You were indicted, you go", but rather it should be an option on a case by case basis.

And before the possibility of a corrupt person being elected again comes up, we MUST clean up our electoral process, and our educational process, along with the media.
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Originally Posted By mnvwguy02:
Originally Posted By Klee:
Originally Posted By BM1455:


Hummm extradition? 

Que "Joe you have to go back" meme 



Humor notwithstanding, extradition of our current or former administration officials is a line of precedent that we must never cross. Ever. Period.


I disagree.  

Don't get me wrong, it shouldn't be a blanket "You were indicted, you go", but rather it should be an option on a case by case basis.

And before the possibility of a corrupt person being elected again comes up, we MUST clean up our electoral process, and our educational process, along with the media.


I understand your point, and respectfully disagree:

Once the precedent is breached, Katy-bar-the-door, every leader we have will be on trial by our allies and enemies; and our political parties will be encouraging other nations to do it to their rivals for light and transient causes, or false causes. It will destroy our leader’s ability to have ANY foreign policy. Total paralysis. Never, never, never do it.
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How Can Susan Rice Know What Obama and Comey Said if She Was Not Present?

Here is the bottomline in a nutshell–Susan Rice has been caught red handed trying to construct a lie about what Barack Obama knew and did not know with respect to General Michael Flynn. She claimed to be present when Barack Obama discussed the Michael Flynn intercept but, according to Sally Yates, who was interviewed by the FBI, only Yates, Jim Comey and Barack Obama were present. This new revelation–made possible by the declassification of the Susan Rice email written in the last moments of the Obama Administration–actually bolsters Michael Flynn’s contention that he was the victim of a political hit job designed to take out Donald Trump.

Let me remind you of the essential facts that you must have in mind in order to understand Rice’s clumsy attempt to fabricate an excuse for Obama’s inexcusable spying on Donald Trump, his family and his team.

December 29, 2016: Michael Flynn, who was vacationing in the Dominican Republic, returned Russian Ambassador Kislyak’s phone call at the behest of the Trump Transition team back in Mar-a-Lago and requested that Russia not escalate the situation and only respond to the U.S. Sanctions in a reciprocal manner (see here).

January 3, 2017: Deputy FBI Director Andy McCabe tells Department of Justice official, Mary McCord, that the FBI had been planning to close the Flynn investigation but “discovered” his phone calls with the Russian Ambassador. McCabe described the content to the calls (Exhibit 3, page 2).

January 4, 2017: The FBI Agent leading the investigation of the General Flynn sends Peter Strzok the memo recommending the case be close because there was no evidence against the General. (Exhibit 1) Peter Strzok tells the Agent that the “7th Floor” is interested.

January 5, 2017: Barack Obama tells Acting Attorney General Sally Yates in the presence of Jim Comey that he had learned about Flynn’s conversation with the Russian Ambassador on sanctions. (Exhibit 4)

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/05/larry-c-johnson-can-susan-rice-know-obama-comey-said-not-present/
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I know that, my sarcasm  I guess was not clear.

My point is that the extradition demand from Ukraine Trump would have to refuse to allow it and that Trump would have "saved" Biden from prosecution.

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Hummm extradition? 

Que "Joe you have to go back" meme 



Humor notwithstanding, extradition of our current or former administration officials is a line of precedent that we must never cross. Ever. Period.



I know that, my sarcasm  I guess was not clear.

My point is that the extradition demand from Ukraine Trump would have to refuse to allow it and that Trump would have "saved" Biden from prosecution.

Nuclear Head Explosions from the left. 


My misunderstanding...sorry.

I love the ‘Trump saves Biden’ angle!
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What if a former POTUS or former high ranking government official flees to a foreign nation to seek protection from federal indictment and/or military tribunal. No humor, do you seek extradiction?
0bama pioneered using drones on US citizens in gray areas didn't he?

I would be fine with drones but better yet a Seal team or other Special forces hit to make it a bit more personal
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I believe he's talking about handing our own to another country. I too can never support that, no matter whom is getting handed over.

We have a law on the books that dictates we invade the Hague in order to break our servicemen out because we refuse to subject Americans to an international court - we deal with our own.

I expect that we will deal with those that need dealing with in time (though I am very much a member of the "please let it start soon" camp).

Now, fetching one of our own (don't think I have to say who) from a non-extradition treaty country? Sign me the fuck up.
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Don't get me wrong, I'd much prefer that we handle it in house. But if at the end of the day, the only crime they are guilty of is public corruption in an allied country.....ship em over. Especially in this situation where joe Biden was using your money to get his whittle baby out of twouble and keep his cash flow coming in. Fuck that and fuck him. Like I said....I'll personally deliver him if I can.
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Treasury Department Spying on Flynn and Others

By March 2016, the whistleblower said she and a colleague, who was detailed to Treasury from the intelligence community, became convinced that the surveillance of Flynn was not tied to legitimate criminal or national security concerns, but was straight-up political surveillance among other illegal activity occurring at Treasury.

“When I showed it to her, what she said, ‘Oh, sh%t!’ and I knew right then and there that I was right – this was some shady stuff,” the whistleblower said.

“It wasn’t just him,” the whistleblower said. “They were targeting other U.S. citizens, as well.”



Judge Contrareas - wife @ Treasury
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Anon Theory on Sullivan/Flynn and what Habbens, Why?

First Marker: Indictment will be MIL and will shock the World

Well Frens The Show is getting exciting, the Stage is being Set.

1- Flynn dismissal not being granted by Sullivan took many by shock, Q knew.

2- Barr knows the Swamp and was likely involved in Plan from early on, perhaps through the Federalist Society of Conservative Judges, or maybe much earlier. Q alluded to B2 stealth well before he arrived on the scene.

3- Motivation: Potus watched JFK as a child get murdered, watched 9-11 with suspicion, watched his Fren JFK Jr. die and mysteriously benefit the DS and HRC. Barr likely watched in horror as our Country was infiltrated and law was weaponized. He watched Scalia 'conveniently' pass at a time when DS and HRC mysteriously benefited, and put themselves in a position to gain full control of Supreme Court.

4- Barr prolly knows what Q knows and Barr may be part of team. He knows their modus operandi and understands 'chess' in the legal field.

Bringing us to Today-Setting the Stage

Sullivan broke precedent or worse in not dismissing Flynn.

A Supreme Court ruling in the last week or so paralleled much of the case and may be used as precedent for what is to come. SC overruled Ninth District Court of Appeals ruling that political activists were

a) erroneously invited into court proceedings by judge, undermining court impartiality.

Further the ruling stated the

b) activists effectively introduced compaints and arguments which were not part of initial court complaint.

The SC overruled the 9th circuit court 9-0, citing the above examples.

Sullivan court is following a weaponizes version of lawfare, and it is apparent to many, and should be clear to all legal scholars that justice and impartiality guaranteed by the Court is not possible.

Timing

The plan is relatively far along and indictments are near, tie the Sullivan case together with the pending indictments and we can understand that for Justice to prevail the existing court system cannot be utilized. The coordinated conspiracy with the MSM and Courts undermines impartiality and DS corruption paves the way for narratives that divide the Country and make Impartial Justice literally impossible as viewed from the Public especially. Justice itself is perverted into Corruption when it filters and is narrated (with Court complicity) by the MSM to the Public. Justice needs to Public, Open and Transparent and as evidenced by attacks on Potus from (before) Day 1 this is not possible because a false narrative is delivered to the American People, rendering justice for Potus defense impossible, this will also be the case as we bring those responsible to justice.

So Whats Next

Think about it logically.

The only way is the military. Fully controlled. Save & spread (once 11.3 verifies as 1st marker).

Biggest advanced drop on Pol.

We are going to use the Sullivan Case as an important scene in the 'Show' and proper predicate will be established to show Court System cannot deliver impartial justice, and we will try many indictments in Military Courts.

Q alluded to the fact that the First Indictment would be a shock to the World.

Not because of WHO, but HOW!!!

The First indictment will show that jurisdiction will be Military not Civil.

That will Shock the World.

The only way is the military. Fully controlled. Save & spread (once 11.3 verifies as 1st marker).

11.3 is Kevin Clinesmith who already has been shown to be guilty of a major crime falsifying a Gov document and submitting it to the FISA court.

That is Marker 1, as he will be arrested by the Military.

That is the Time we have been waiting for to Save and Spread as Anons and Q Patriots understand!

That is when normies will understand (with guidance) what is Habbening and Why.
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You misunderstand, and I was not clear.

If a former US official is on trial in the US and they’ve fled, absolutely try to get them back here. I’ve made no argument to the contrary.

We must never send our former officials to another nation so that foreign nation can put them on trial. If they were naughty, that is a problem we deal with within this nation.
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Originally Posted By tranzformer:


What if a former POTUS or former high ranking government official flees to a foreign nation to seek protection from federal indictment and/or military tribunal. No humor, do you seek extradiction?


You misunderstand, and I was not clear.

If a former US official is on trial in the US and they’ve fled, absolutely try to get them back here. I’ve made no argument to the contrary.

We must never send our former officials to another nation so that foreign nation can put them on trial. If they were naughty, that is a problem we deal with within this nation.


I brought this up in the original SAP thread...it's a sticky situation when politicians may have used their position to bring misery and death to citizens old other countries....it might have not even had an effect on the USA, but there it is. Foreign leaders may require their pound of flesh.
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OT, but I can no longer keep up where everyone here is from.

My Prayers go out to those dealing with the dam breaches and massive flooding in MI. Just don't know what else to say.
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TRANSCRIPTS (zoomable) of calls/conversations between Biden, Poroshenko, and Kerry

I can't remember who was asking about this yesterday.

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I brought this up in the original SAP thread...it's a sticky situation when politicians may have used their position to bring misery and death to citizens old other countries....it might have not even had an effect on the USA, but there it is. Foreign leaders may require their pound of flesh.
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What if a former POTUS or former high ranking government official flees to a foreign nation to seek protection from federal indictment and/or military tribunal. No humor, do you seek extradiction?


You misunderstand, and I was not clear.

If a former US official is on trial in the US and they've fled, absolutely try to get them back here. I've made no argument to the contrary.

We must never send our former officials to another nation so that foreign nation can put them on trial. If they were naughty, that is a problem we deal with within this nation.


I brought this up in the original SAP thread...it's a sticky situation when politicians may have used their position to bring misery and death to citizens old other countries....it might have not even had an effect on the USA, but there it is. Foreign leaders may require their pound of flesh.
What do you call it when a powerful group of people steal the benefits of a lower class of people's labor under the force of arrest and loss of freedom and/or the barrel end of a weapon? I call it slavery....nothing less. These people have been stealing our money in such great amounts that our next 5 generations will be indebted and enslaved. Just so the powerful can jet set around the world feeding their wildest desires and dreams and ensuring that their next 5 generations will continue to look down on their plantation of slaves. We as a nation, liberal and conservative, regardless of race, should be absolutely refusing to pay another red cent in federal and state taxes until this shit is rectified. And doing so under the same threat of force. The shit we have become accustomed to is ridiculous.

Fuck a pound of flesh,  I want necks.  I'm holding on to my last hope that things are changing course and we are on a path to rectification. Because I do not want to have to force the issue. But I will never stand idly by and watch my nation get raped by any enemy....especially a domestic one.

ETA: I was in no way disagreeing with your post. And I'll get off my soapbox now. This shit just eats at my core.
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Fuck that. That cocksucker spent one BILLION dollars that belongs to your children. I'd personally hand deliver him myself if I could. Hope they fucking execute him for all I care. These treasonous fucks walk around with my/our money in their pocket and just expect me/us to keep picking up the tab for their lavish lifestyles and paying for little Timmy to fuck hookers. If these son of a bitches don't face justice in the next five years, there's some COC shit I'm prepared to do to collect 

see my sig line.....it ain't just a catch phrase
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Originally Posted By mnvwguy02:

Humor notwithstanding, extradition of our current or former administration officials is a line of precedent that we must never cross. Ever. Period.
Fuck that. That cocksucker spent one BILLION dollars that belongs to your children. I'd personally hand deliver him myself if I could. Hope they fucking execute him for all I care. These treasonous fucks walk around with my/our money in their pocket and just expect me/us to keep picking up the tab for their lavish lifestyles and paying for little Timmy to fuck hookers. If these son of a bitches don't face justice in the next five years, there's some COC shit I'm prepared to do to collect 

see my sig line.....it ain't just a catch phrase


"Nazi hunters", American style.
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What do you call it when a powerful group of people steal the benefits of a lower class of people's labor under the force of arrest and loss of freedom and/or the barrel end of a weapon? I call it slavery....nothing less. These people have been stealing our money in such great amounts that our next 5 generations will be indebted and enslaved. Just so the powerful can jet set around the world feeding their wildest desires and dreams and ensuring that their next 5 generations will continue to look down on their plantation of slaves. We as a nation, liberal and conservative, regardless of race, should be absolutely refusing to pay another red cent in federal and state taxes until this shit is rectified. And doing so under the same threat of force. The shit we have become accustomed to is ridiculous. 

Fuck a pound of flesh,  I want necks.  I'm holding on to my last hope that things are changing course and we are on a path to rectification. Because I do not want to have to force the issue. But I will never stand idly by and watch my nation get raped by any enemy....especially a domestic one.

ETA: I was in no way disagreeing with your post. And I'll get off my soapbox now. This shit just eats at my core. 
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Originally Posted By superA:
Originally Posted By mnvwguy02:
Originally Posted By tranzformer:


What if a former POTUS or former high ranking government official flees to a foreign nation to seek protection from federal indictment and/or military tribunal. No humor, do you seek extradiction?


You misunderstand, and I was not clear.

If a former US official is on trial in the US and they've fled, absolutely try to get them back here. I've made no argument to the contrary.

We must never send our former officials to another nation so that foreign nation can put them on trial. If they were naughty, that is a problem we deal with within this nation.


I brought this up in the original SAP thread...it's a sticky situation when politicians may have used their position to bring misery and death to citizens old other countries....it might have not even had an effect on the USA, but there it is. Foreign leaders may require their pound of flesh.
What do you call it when a powerful group of people steal the benefits of a lower class of people's labor under the force of arrest and loss of freedom and/or the barrel end of a weapon? I call it slavery....nothing less. These people have been stealing our money in such great amounts that our next 5 generations will be indebted and enslaved. Just so the powerful can jet set around the world feeding their wildest desires and dreams and ensuring that their next 5 generations will continue to look down on their plantation of slaves. We as a nation, liberal and conservative, regardless of race, should be absolutely refusing to pay another red cent in federal and state taxes until this shit is rectified. And doing so under the same threat of force. The shit we have become accustomed to is ridiculous. 

Fuck a pound of flesh,  I want necks.  I'm holding on to my last hope that things are changing course and we are on a path to rectification. Because I do not want to have to force the issue. But I will never stand idly by and watch my nation get raped by any enemy....especially a domestic one.

ETA: I was in no way disagreeing with your post. And I'll get off my soapbox now. This shit just eats at my core. 

I believe the term is communism.
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I understand your point, and respectfully disagree: 

Once the precedent is breached, Katy-bar-the-door, every leader we have will be on trial by our allies and enemies; and our political parties will be encouraging other nations to do it to their rivals for light and transient causes, or false causes. It will destroy our leader’s ability to have ANY foreign policy. Total paralysis. Never, never, never do it. 
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Hummm extradition? 

Que "Joe you have to go back" meme 



Humor notwithstanding, extradition of our current or former administration officials is a line of precedent that we must never cross. Ever. Period.


I disagree.  

Don't get me wrong, it shouldn't be a blanket "You were indicted, you go", but rather it should be an option on a case by case basis.

And before the possibility of a corrupt person being elected again comes up, we MUST clean up our electoral process, and our educational process, along with the media.


I understand your point, and respectfully disagree: 

Once the precedent is breached, Katy-bar-the-door, every leader we have will be on trial by our allies and enemies; and our political parties will be encouraging other nations to do it to their rivals for light and transient causes, or false causes. It will destroy our leader’s ability to have ANY foreign policy. Total paralysis. Never, never, never do it. 


OK, you're right.  

My only concern is if some politico doesn't commit any crimes here, but does overseas and really needs to see justice for them, what do we do?
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What do you call it when a powerful group of people steal the benefits of a lower class of people's labor under the force of arrest and loss of freedom and/or the barrel end of a weapon? I call it slavery....nothing less. These people have been stealing our money in such great amounts that our next 5 generations will be indebted and enslaved. Just so the powerful can jet set around the world feeding their wildest desires and dreams and ensuring that their next 5 generations will continue to look down on their plantation of slaves. We as a nation, liberal and conservative, regardless of race, should be absolutely refusing to pay another red cent in federal and state taxes until this shit is rectified. And doing so under the same threat of force. The shit we have become accustomed to is ridiculous. 

Fuck a pound of flesh,  I want necks.  I'm holding on to my last hope that things are changing course and we are on a path to rectification. Because I do not want to have to force the issue. But I will never stand idly by and watch my nation get raped by any enemy....especially a domestic one.

ETA: I was in no way disagreeing with your post. And I'll get off my soapbox now. This shit just eats at my core. 
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Originally Posted By mnvwguy02:
Originally Posted By tranzformer:


What if a former POTUS or former high ranking government official flees to a foreign nation to seek protection from federal indictment and/or military tribunal. No humor, do you seek extradiction?


You misunderstand, and I was not clear.

If a former US official is on trial in the US and they've fled, absolutely try to get them back here. I've made no argument to the contrary.

We must never send our former officials to another nation so that foreign nation can put them on trial. If they were naughty, that is a problem we deal with within this nation.


I brought this up in the original SAP thread...it's a sticky situation when politicians may have used their position to bring misery and death to citizens old other countries....it might have not even had an effect on the USA, but there it is. Foreign leaders may require their pound of flesh.
What do you call it when a powerful group of people steal the benefits of a lower class of people's labor under the force of arrest and loss of freedom and/or the barrel end of a weapon? I call it slavery....nothing less. These people have been stealing our money in such great amounts that our next 5 generations will be indebted and enslaved. Just so the powerful can jet set around the world feeding their wildest desires and dreams and ensuring that their next 5 generations will continue to look down on their plantation of slaves. We as a nation, liberal and conservative, regardless of race, should be absolutely refusing to pay another red cent in federal and state taxes until this shit is rectified. And doing so under the same threat of force. The shit we have become accustomed to is ridiculous. 

Fuck a pound of flesh,  I want necks.  I'm holding on to my last hope that things are changing course and we are on a path to rectification. Because I do not want to have to force the issue. But I will never stand idly by and watch my nation get raped by any enemy....especially a domestic one.

ETA: I was in no way disagreeing with your post. And I'll get off my soapbox now. This shit just eats at my core. 


Understood completely. I think it's almost here..that moment where the hard decisions are the only ones left.
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This is the ultimate truth. We here are a rag tag group (who otherwise wouldn't have really communicated or worked together) who along with numerous other  rag tag groups have come together. We, with our President and Q's prodding, form a massive collective of patriotic Americans who want to restore lawfulness from destruction, good from evil, and freedom over subjugation.

 to patriots and researchers all over the world.
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and this Tweet is gone

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 When do birds sing?



Ooops, LOL





Why would a personal memo need 'white house counsel' involved if "everything by the book"?
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and this Tweet is gone

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POTUS is on it




and this Tweet is gone


Not sure if this is the same one

Lol, new tweet removed Breaking

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Wonder what Putin's giving us in return?  
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  When do birds sing?



Ooops, LOL





Why would a personal memo need 'white house counsel' involved if "everything by the book"?
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Some mid east news.

Syria seizes assets of Assad’s tycoon cousin Rami Makhlouf

The Syrian government ordered the seizure of assets belonging to President Bashar al-Assad's cousin Rami Makhlouf, one of Syria's richest men, as well as to his wife and children, according to a government document reviewed by Reuters.

The document, stamped May 19 and signed by the finance minister, said the "precautionary seizure" aimed to guarantee payment of sums owed to the telecom regulatory authority.

Once at the heart of Assad's inner circle, Makhlouf has quarrelled with the authorities over funds which they say are owed by his mobile phone company Syriatel. The unprecedented public tussle has uncovered a rift in the ruling elite.

Makhlouf has addressed the dispute in three video messages in which he has appealed to Assad himself to help save his firm. In his last appearance, released on Sunday, Makhlouf said he had been told to quit as the head of Syriatel.

Makhlouf, in a Facebook post, said the asset seizure was illegal.

He also said the courts had been asked to appoint a legal guardian to manage Syriatel, calling this an attempt to exclude him from the company.

"All of this with the excuse that we hadn't agreed to pay the sum. As you know, that is incorrect ... (they) want the company and the only thing they see is controlling it".

The government says Syriatel owes 134 billion pounds, around $77 million at the current exchange rate on the parallel market.

A separate order has banned Makhlouf from government contracts for five years.

Makhlouf, a maternal cousin of Assad, played a big role in financing Assad's war effort, Western officials have said. He is under US and EU sanctions.

Syria experts say the row could mark the first major rift in decades within the family that has ruled the country since Assad's father Hafez took power 50 years ago.
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Yes, and POTUS Trump just shined a light on it for all to see.
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As well as "Instructing" them to use it.

Let the firings begin.

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