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Link Posted: 10/3/2019 1:45:00 PM EST
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I've seen this now a few times in this thread, and remember it in the original thread.

For those of us not in-the-know, what is the purpose?  It doesn't seem to convey any information about the subject.  Is this just a juvenile attempt to get this thread locked like the previous one?
Link Posted: 10/3/2019 2:09:18 PM EST
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An anon's take of "The Plan".

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Link Posted: 10/3/2019 2:10:25 PM EST
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Great find, yup
Link Posted: 10/3/2019 2:17:38 PM EST
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Bunch of wishcasting aside from 7, maybe. Objective 2 sucks in particular.
Link Posted: 10/3/2019 2:23:07 PM EST
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Massive $7.5 Billion U.S. Award From WTO in Airbus Subsidy Case  Sets Stage for Countervailing Duties Against EU
Posted on October 3, 2019 by sundance

Jumpin' ju-ju bones  The Trump administration via U.S. Trade Rep Robert Lighthizer and Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross won a massive $7.5 billion award as an outcome of the World Trade Organization agreeing with the U.S. against the EU and Airbus subsidies. The WTO arbitrators decision is final and cannot be appealed.

This win sets the stage for President Trump to deploy $7.5 billion in countervailing duties against products from the EU. Keep in mind, a final WTO ruling means the EU cannot retaliate against any WTO-authorized countermeasures. The downstream ramifications are very significant. Think about it: at 25% the U.S. could tariff $30 billion in EU goods.

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Man, talk about serendipitous timing But first, here's the press release from Robert Lighthizer:

Washington, D.C. The United States has won the largest arbitration award in World Trade Organization (WTO) history in its dispute with the European Union over illegal subsidies to Airbus. This follows four previous panel and appellate reports from 2011-2018 finding that EU subsidies to Airbus break WTO rules.

Today's decision demonstrates that massive EU corporate welfare has cost American aerospace companies hundreds of billions of dollars in lost revenue over the nearly 15 years of litigation.

"For years, Europe has been providing massive subsidies to Airbus that have seriously injured the U.S. aerospace industry and our workers. Finally, after 15 years of litigation, the WTO has confirmed that the United States is entitled to impose countermeasures in response to the EU's illegal subsidies," U.S. Trade Representative Robert Lighthizer said.

"Accordingly, the United States will begin applying WTO-approved tariffs on certain EU goods beginning October 18. We expect to enter into negotiations with the European Union aimed at resolving this issue in a way that will benefit American workers."

The award of $7.5 billion annually is by far the largest award in WTO historynearly twice the largest previous award. The Arbitrator calculated this amount based on WTO findings that EU launch aid for Airbus is causing significant lost sales of Boeing large civil aircraft, as well as impeding exports of Boeing large aircraft to the EU, Australia, China, Korea, Singapore, and UAE markets. Under WTO rules, the Arbitrator's decision is final and not subject to appeal.

The United States today has requested that the WTO schedule a meeting on October 14 to approve a U.S. request for authorization to take countermeasures against the EU. Pursuant to WTO rules, the WTO will provide this authorization automatically at that meeting. The EU is not allowed to retaliate against WTO-authorized countermeasures.

The tariffs will be applied to a range of imports from EU Member States, with the bulk of the tariffs being applied to imports from France, Germany, Spain, and the United Kingdom  the four countries responsible for the illegal subsidies.

Although USTR has the authority to apply a 100 percent tariff on affected products, at this time the tariff increases will be limited to 10 percent on large civil aircraft and 25 percent on agricultural and other products. The U.S. has the authority to increase the tariffs at any time, or change the products affected. (read more)

Macron's Merlot, Merkel's Mercedes, Conte's Chianti and Johnsons' Johnson are all quivering. Trump, Lighthizer and Ross can pick and choose whatever products they choose to designate the countervailing duties upon; they can mix-and match; they can shift and change; they can assign and withdraw; and there's not a single thing the EU can do about it. Remarkable 'leverage', oh, this could be lots of fun.

Ambassador Lighthizer has already made a list of products for the countermeasures. Varying products with varying tariffs. You can read the full list HERE (pdf). Reuters has an outline on some of the products, and the responses from Europe.

What makes this even more excellent is the timing for Brexit. If Boris Johnson can get out of the EU without strings Trump can use these WTO-authorized tariffs to position a UK trade deal with the U.S. as a trade superhighway. Incredibly this WTO decision plays right into the hand of President Trump's global trade realignment.

KORUS (Korea-US) is in the books; phase one of the U.S-Japan agreement is in the books; the North American USMCA is complete  pending ratification; the EU previously agreed to purchase U.S. beef exports; and President Trump has been working on a post-Brexit UK-US bilateral trade agreement. The timing for this WTO decision is, well, perfect.

China and the EU have devalued their currency in an effort to block the impacts from President Trump's trade realignment and the 'America First' trade policy.

Because those currencies are devalued against the dollar, the resulting effect is a rising dollar value. That's the stupid hypocrisy of global banking outlooks. They make a decision to devalue their currency, which causes the dollar value to rise, and then turn around and blame the U.S. dollar for being overvalued. The root cause of the devaluation is unaddressed in their argument.

The EU (specifically Germany and France) and China are trying to retain their global manufacturing position and offset the impact of President Trump's tariffs by lowering the end value of their exports. However, it's a never ending spiral  and the U.S. consumer cannot save the world.

In the bigger picture this is why President Trump is the most transformative economic President in the last 75 years. The post-WWII Marshall Plan was set up to allow Europe and Asia to place tariffs on exported American industrial products. Those tariffs were used by the EU and Japan to rebuild their infrastructure after a devastating war. However, there was never a built in mechanism to end the tariffs. until President Trump came along and said: "it's over"!

By putting tariffs on foreign imports he has counterbalanced the never-ending Marshal Plan trade program and demanded renegotiation(s). Trump's goal is reciprocity; however, the EU and Asia, specifically China, don't want to give up a decades-long multi-generational advantage. This is part of their fight.

No-one, ever, could take on all these interests. Think about it The EU, Asia, World Bank, International Monetary Fund, China, Russia, U.S. Chamber of Commerce, Iran, U.S. Congress, Wall Street, the Big Club, Lobbyists, Hollywood, Corporate Media (foreign and domestic), and the ankle-biters in Never Trump. All of these financial interests are aligned against Main Street USA and against President Trump.

Name one individual who could take them on simultaneously and still be winning, bigly.

They say he's one man. They say they have him outnumbered. Yet somehow, as unreal as it seems, he's the one who appears to have them surrounded.

Incredible.

Go Trump!
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Name one individual who could take them on simultaneously and still be winning, bigly.

They say he's one man. They say they have him outnumbered. Yet somehow, as unreal as it seems, he's the one who appears to have them surrounded.

Incredible.

Go Trump!
Link Posted: 10/3/2019 2:23:59 PM EST
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Number 8 bothers me a great deal. Precinct after precinct at 100+% turnout. Cali, IL,...our WPB bullshit. Has anything happened/changed??
Link Posted: 10/3/2019 2:43:08 PM EST
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Number 8 bothers me a great deal. Precinct after precinct at 100+% turnout. Cali, IL,...our WPB bullshit. Has anything happened/changed??
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I'm worried about the pace of that one
Link Posted: 10/3/2019 3:35:17 PM EST
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I've seen this now a few times in this thread, and remember it in the original thread.

For those of us not in-the-know, what is the purpose?  It doesn't seem to convey any information about the subject.  Is this just a juvenile attempt to get this thread locked like the previous one?
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The page with no posts is due to a deleted post and somehow the remaining posts not getting renumbered.
Link Posted: 10/3/2019 4:10:00 PM EST
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Brenan's call for whistleblowers?

Link Posted: 10/3/2019 4:13:21 PM EST
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Drudge has become click bait trash.  I used to visit everyday but not anymore.
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Drudge has become click bait trash.  I used to visit everyday but not anymore.
I stop during the 2016 campaign.

Visited daily since the late 90s
Link Posted: 10/3/2019 4:14:48 PM EST
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I've seen this now a few times in this thread, and remember it in the original thread.

For those of us not in-the-know, what is the purpose?  It doesn't seem to convey any information about the subject.  Is this just a juvenile attempt to get this thread locked like the previous one?
The page with no posts is due to a deleted post and somehow the remaining posts not getting renumbered.
Happened on page 90 also but I didn't do a screen cap.
Link Posted: 10/3/2019 4:36:42 PM EST
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Brenan's call for whistleblowers?

Another whistleblower with second hand information. 2nd time theyre running this play in as many weeks only this time the second-hand information said they “might” have done something. At least last time they definitively stated that something happened.  Must be desperate. Let’s see how this plays out.

In one sentence they say:
The existence of a whistleblower complaint was revealed in a court filing several months ago, but little about it had become public.
But the next they say:

Neal has also said the complaint raises “serious and urgent concerns.”
If it was such a serious and urgent concern, why didnt we hear about it several months ago?

James Jackson, deputy IG @ treasury dept:

“We are not aware of any misconduct.”
In his interview with The Post, the whistleblower dismissed the contention of critics that the complaint was uncorroborated.

“That’s what investigations are for,” he said.
It is very unusual for political appointees at Treasury to ask IRS career staff about the status of an individual’s audit, according to legal experts and former IRS officials.

“Nobody at the Treasury Department should be calling to find out the status of anybody’s audit,” said John Koskinen, who served as IRS commissioner under both Trump and President Barack Obama. “For a Treasury official to call a career person — even just for information — seems to me highly inappropriate, even if it’s just checking in on how it’s going.”
My bet is at best, someone called to ask about the status of the audit
At worst, this is just another attempt to ensnare Trump in as many scandals as possible, as many investigations as possible, as much negative publicity as possible. —Though this part is true regardless of the nature or substance of any of these.
Link Posted: 10/3/2019 4:56:11 PM EST
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Oh lookie here. Now they want to impeach Trump and Pence so we can get President Pelosi!

Impeachmints

WaPo, Chris Matthews Make The Case For Pence To Be Impeached And You Know What THAT Means
Posted at 4:00 pm on October 3, 2019 by Elizabeth Vaughn

Here’s a subject that no Democratic lawmakers will touch right now. The thinking is: Pence is implicated in Trump’s campaign to pressure Ukraine to reopen their investigation into Joe Biden and Hunter Biden. Although Pence never mentioned Biden’s name to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, he was after all, involved in communicating the delay of the U.S. aid and at the request of President Trump, he skipped Zelensky’s inauguration. Shouldn’t Pence be impeached too? A rather low bar for impeachment to be sure, but that’s all they’ve got right now.

The media, on the other hand, has no such reservations. The last few days have seen a couple of Washington Post articles arguing for Pence’s impeachment, a story in the Associated Press and a handful of others.

In the video below, MSNBC’s Chris Matthews speaks to Sen. Chris Coons (D-DE). Matthews asks: “The Vice President now according to reporting as of tonight seems to have engaged in the same thing Trump was engaged in which is basically shaking down a foreign leader to get dirt on a political opponent, the candidate you’re supporting, Joe Biden. Shouldn’t he be the subject of an impeachment inquiry as well at this point?”

Coons, a bit taken aback, replies, “Well, at this point, look Chris, I think it’s important that we focus on the facts here. The facts are that we tie –”

Matthews, not hearing what he wants to hear, abruptly cuts him off and says, “I’m talking the facts. I realize [Trump has] got William Barr, the Attorney General in cahoots with him. He’s got Secretary of State, Pompeo, in cahoots with him. Now, he’s got the Vice President dragged into this cabal.”

The video then shows him speaking to Sen. Kamala Harris (D-CA). “You know, if possible, if it comes to a Senate trial, and it may well by the end of this year where you’ll be a juror in that trial for removal of the President from office after he’s impeached, if that develops as the history of this year, you’re going to a Vice President of the United States who would take the presidency after having been involved personally in the cabal that we’d be impeaching the President for. How does that make sense historically? If Pence was part of this how could he survive as president when Trump goes?”

Kamala does not muster a tremendous amount of enthusiasm over the idea.

Last night, the Washington Post channeled Matthews and published a lengthy piece enumerating Pence’s interactions with Zelensky. It reads like a primer on the anatomy of a political smear. Here are some excerpts:

The president used Pence to tell Zelensky that U.S. aid was still being withheld while demanding more aggressive action on corruption, officials said. At that time — following Trump’s July 25 phone call with Zelenksy — the Ukrainians probably understood action on corruption to include the investigation of former vice president Joe Biden and his son Hunter Biden.

Officials close to Pence insist that he was unaware of Trump’s efforts to press Zelensky for damaging information about Biden and his son, who had served on the board of an obscure Ukrainian gas company, when his father was overseeing U.S. policy on Ukraine.

Pence’s activities occurred amid several indications of the president’s hidden agenda. Among them were the abrupt removal of the U.S. ambassador to Kiev; the visible efforts by the president’s lawyer, Rudolph W. Giuliani, to insert himself in the U.S.-Ukraine relationship; as well as alarms being raised inside the White House even before the emergence of an extraordinary whistleblower complaint about Trump’s conduct.

Perhaps most significantly, one of Pence’s top advisers [national security advisor Keith Kellogg] was on the July 25 call and the vice president should have had access to the transcript within hours, officials said.


The authors do at least acknowledge that Kellogg found nothing unusual about the call, nor did he “flag any concerns” to Pence.

Democrats will find a way to interpret anything involving Trump in the most negative way possible which is what they are doing here. The impeachment of both Trump and Pence would set the stage for a President Pelosi, a dream come true for war weary Democrats.

Why is this idea starting to gain traction among the left leaning press, yet no one in Congress appears to want to talk about it?

For one thing, the optics would be bad for them. Maybe they realize they’ve already grossly overstepped by basing their case for Trump’s impeachment on a routine phone call.

Hot Air’s Allapundit has a theory and it goes like this. President Trump, along with many Republicans, myself included, see the Democrats impeachment inquiry as another coup attempt. The thinking is, that if lawmakers call for Pence to be impeached along with Trump, it’s the same as saying that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi should be President.

Now that would truly seem like a coup. Actually, it would be a coup. In fact, it’s already a coup.
Link Posted: 10/3/2019 5:22:59 PM EST
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It is a second coup attempt...they are emboldened by the lack of punishment of the first coup leaders.  Trump better start hitting back hard before he is removed.
Link Posted: 10/3/2019 5:29:04 PM EST
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Ryan Saavedra
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Far-left Democrat Rep. Rashida Tlaib (MI) says that Democrats are looking into how they are going to arrest Trump administration officials

Click date for video of the stupid.

Link Posted: 10/3/2019 5:32:55 PM EST
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Link Posted: 10/3/2019 6:13:45 PM EST
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You gotta love this. Gorka replying to Brennan...much cooler if you read to yourself in Gorka's awesome voice.

Link Posted: 10/3/2019 6:30:50 PM EST
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https://www.axios.com/white-house-nancy-pelosi-impeachment-vote-86e42e90-8405-4421-911e-a06a29382f56.html

Bring it bitch!!

The White House is planning to send Speaker Nancy Pelosi a letter as soon as Friday arguing that President Trump and his team can ignore lawmakers' demands until she holds a full House vote formally approving an impeachment inquiry, 2 sources familiar with the letter tell Axios....

Lou Dobbs just confirm this
Link Posted: 10/3/2019 6:51:57 PM EST
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It is a second coup attempt...they are emboldened by the lack of punishment of the first coup leaders.  Trump better start hitting back hard before he is removed.
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This!
Link Posted: 10/3/2019 6:52:15 PM EST
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How much Infected Pork has already been smuggled into the US...

And served at Chinese Buffets????????????



How many workers at these places are here illegally?
Link Posted: 10/3/2019 6:55:00 PM EST
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Musk's Mars Suicide Mission is...

Just that...

For some time at least...
Link Posted: 10/3/2019 6:56:50 PM EST
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Drudge has become click bait trash.  I used to visit everyday but not anymore.
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Don't be so critically sensitive...

There may be some Plan behind his 'linking'...

He was instrumental in getting Trump elected.

It may be he's hooking in Libtards and will propagandize them at the correct opportunity.
Link Posted: 10/3/2019 6:58:44 PM EST
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Lot's of truth from that Anon...
Link Posted: 10/3/2019 7:00:37 PM EST
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Another whistleblower with second hand information. 2nd time theyre running this play in as many weeks only this time the second-hand information said they “might” have done something. At least last time they definitively stated that something happened.  Must be desperate. Let’s see how this plays out.

In one sentence they say:

But the next they say:

If it was such a serious and urgent concern, why didnt we hear about it several months ago?

James Jackson, deputy IG @ treasury dept:

My bet is at best, someone called to ask about the status of the audit
At worst, this is just another attempt to ensnare Trump in as many scandals as possible, as many investigations as possible, as much negative publicity as possible. —Though this part is true regardless of the nature or substance of any of these.
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Their "Whistle_Blower Strategy is another of their "One Thousand Cuts" attacks on Trump.
Link Posted: 10/3/2019 7:01:49 PM EST
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Oh lookie here. Now they want to impeach Trump and Pence so we can get President Pelosi!

Impeachmints

WaPo, Chris Matthews Make The Case For Pence To Be Impeached And You Know What THAT Means
Posted at 4:00 pm on October 3, 2019 by Elizabeth Vaughn

Here’s a subject that no Democratic lawmakers will touch right now. The thinking is: Pence is implicated in Trump’s campaign to pressure Ukraine to reopen their investigation into Joe Biden and Hunter Biden. Although Pence never mentioned Biden’s name to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, he was after all, involved in communicating the delay of the U.S. aid and at the request of President Trump, he skipped Zelensky’s inauguration. Shouldn’t Pence be impeached too? A rather low bar for impeachment to be sure, but that’s all they’ve got right now.

The media, on the other hand, has no such reservations. The last few days have seen a couple of Washington Post articles arguing for Pence’s impeachment, a story in the Associated Press and a handful of others.

In the video below, MSNBC’s Chris Matthews speaks to Sen. Chris Coons (D-DE). Matthews asks: “The Vice President now according to reporting as of tonight seems to have engaged in the same thing Trump was engaged in which is basically shaking down a foreign leader to get dirt on a political opponent, the candidate you’re supporting, Joe Biden. Shouldn’t he be the subject of an impeachment inquiry as well at this point?”

Coons, a bit taken aback, replies, “Well, at this point, look Chris, I think it’s important that we focus on the facts here. The facts are that we tie –”

Matthews, not hearing what he wants to hear, abruptly cuts him off and says, “I’m talking the facts. I realize [Trump has] got William Barr, the Attorney General in cahoots with him. He’s got Secretary of State, Pompeo, in cahoots with him. Now, he’s got the Vice President dragged into this cabal.”

The video then shows him speaking to Sen. Kamala Harris (D-CA). “You know, if possible, if it comes to a Senate trial, and it may well by the end of this year where you’ll be a juror in that trial for removal of the President from office after he’s impeached, if that develops as the history of this year, you’re going to a Vice President of the United States who would take the presidency after having been involved personally in the cabal that we’d be impeaching the President for. How does that make sense historically? If Pence was part of this how could he survive as president when Trump goes?”

Kamala does not muster a tremendous amount of enthusiasm over the idea.

Last night, the Washington Post channeled Matthews and published a lengthy piece enumerating Pence’s interactions with Zelensky. It reads like a primer on the anatomy of a political smear. Here are some excerpts:

The president used Pence to tell Zelensky that U.S. aid was still being withheld while demanding more aggressive action on corruption, officials said. At that time — following Trump’s July 25 phone call with Zelenksy — the Ukrainians probably understood action on corruption to include the investigation of former vice president Joe Biden and his son Hunter Biden.

Officials close to Pence insist that he was unaware of Trump’s efforts to press Zelensky for damaging information about Biden and his son, who had served on the board of an obscure Ukrainian gas company, when his father was overseeing U.S. policy on Ukraine.

Pence’s activities occurred amid several indications of the president’s hidden agenda. Among them were the abrupt removal of the U.S. ambassador to Kiev; the visible efforts by the president’s lawyer, Rudolph W. Giuliani, to insert himself in the U.S.-Ukraine relationship; as well as alarms being raised inside the White House even before the emergence of an extraordinary whistleblower complaint about Trump’s conduct.

Perhaps most significantly, one of Pence’s top advisers [national security advisor Keith Kellogg] was on the July 25 call and the vice president should have had access to the transcript within hours, officials said.


The authors do at least acknowledge that Kellogg found nothing unusual about the call, nor did he “flag any concerns” to Pence.

Democrats will find a way to interpret anything involving Trump in the most negative way possible which is what they are doing here. The impeachment of both Trump and Pence would set the stage for a President Pelosi, a dream come true for war weary Democrats.

Why is this idea starting to gain traction among the left leaning press, yet no one in Congress appears to want to talk about it?

For one thing, the optics would be bad for them. Maybe they realize they’ve already grossly overstepped by basing their case for Trump’s impeachment on a routine phone call.

Hot Air’s Allapundit has a theory and it goes like this. President Trump, along with many Republicans, myself included, see the Democrats impeachment inquiry as another coup attempt. The thinking is, that if lawmakers call for Pence to be impeached along with Trump, it’s the same as saying that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi should be President.

Now that would truly seem like a coup. Actually, it would be a coup. In fact, it’s already a coup.
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They'll get a tribunal of .Mil Generals before Pee_Lousy as President...
Link Posted: 10/3/2019 7:02:29 PM EST
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Fear not, Trump knows far better than us what's going on...

And what to do about it...
Link Posted: 10/3/2019 7:07:05 PM EST
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Bring it bitch!!

The White House is planning to send Speaker Nancy Pelosi a letter as soon as Friday arguing that President Trump and his team can ignore lawmakers' demands until she holds a full House vote formally approving an impeachment inquiry, 2 sources familiar with the letter tell Axios....

Lou Dobbs just confirm this
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I love this POTUS
Link Posted: 10/3/2019 7:08:39 PM EST
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You gotta love this. Gorka replying to Brennan...much cooler if you read to yourself in Gorka's awesome voice.

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Nice!  Very nice!  
Link Posted: 10/3/2019 7:11:16 PM EST
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Oh lookie here. Now they want to impeach Trump and Pence so we can get President Pelosi!

Impeachmints

WaPo, Chris Matthews Make The Case For Pence To Be Impeached And You Know What THAT Means
Posted at 4:00 pm on October 3, 2019 by Elizabeth Vaughn

Here’s a subject that no Democratic lawmakers will touch right now. The thinking is: Pence is implicated in Trump’s campaign to pressure Ukraine to reopen their investigation into Joe Biden and Hunter Biden. Although Pence never mentioned Biden’s name to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, he was after all, involved in communicating the delay of the U.S. aid and at the request of President Trump, he skipped Zelensky’s inauguration. Shouldn’t Pence be impeached too? A rather low bar for impeachment to be sure, but that’s all they’ve got right now.

The media, on the other hand, has no such reservations. The last few days have seen a couple of Washington Post articles arguing for Pence’s impeachment, a story in the Associated Press and a handful of others.

In the video below, MSNBC’s Chris Matthews speaks to Sen. Chris Coons (D-DE). Matthews asks: “The Vice President now according to reporting as of tonight seems to have engaged in the same thing Trump was engaged in which is basically shaking down a foreign leader to get dirt on a political opponent, the candidate you’re supporting, Joe Biden. Shouldn’t he be the subject of an impeachment inquiry as well at this point?”

Coons, a bit taken aback, replies, “Well, at this point, look Chris, I think it’s important that we focus on the facts here. The facts are that we tie –”

Matthews, not hearing what he wants to hear, abruptly cuts him off and says, “I’m talking the facts. I realize [Trump has] got William Barr, the Attorney General in cahoots with him. He’s got Secretary of State, Pompeo, in cahoots with him. Now, he’s got the Vice President dragged into this cabal.”

The video then shows him speaking to Sen. Kamala Harris (D-CA). “You know, if possible, if it comes to a Senate trial, and it may well by the end of this year where you’ll be a juror in that trial for removal of the President from office after he’s impeached, if that develops as the history of this year, you’re going to a Vice President of the United States who would take the presidency after having been involved personally in the cabal that we’d be impeaching the President for. How does that make sense historically? If Pence was part of this how could he survive as president when Trump goes?”

Kamala does not muster a tremendous amount of enthusiasm over the idea.

Last night, the Washington Post channeled Matthews and published a lengthy piece enumerating Pence’s interactions with Zelensky. It reads like a primer on the anatomy of a political smear. Here are some excerpts:

The president used Pence to tell Zelensky that U.S. aid was still being withheld while demanding more aggressive action on corruption, officials said. At that time — following Trump’s July 25 phone call with Zelenksy — the Ukrainians probably understood action on corruption to include the investigation of former vice president Joe Biden and his son Hunter Biden.

Officials close to Pence insist that he was unaware of Trump’s efforts to press Zelensky for damaging information about Biden and his son, who had served on the board of an obscure Ukrainian gas company, when his father was overseeing U.S. policy on Ukraine.

Pence’s activities occurred amid several indications of the president’s hidden agenda. Among them were the abrupt removal of the U.S. ambassador to Kiev; the visible efforts by the president’s lawyer, Rudolph W. Giuliani, to insert himself in the U.S.-Ukraine relationship; as well as alarms being raised inside the White House even before the emergence of an extraordinary whistleblower complaint about Trump’s conduct.

Perhaps most significantly, one of Pence’s top advisers [national security advisor Keith Kellogg] was on the July 25 call and the vice president should have had access to the transcript within hours, officials said.


The authors do at least acknowledge that Kellogg found nothing unusual about the call, nor did he “flag any concerns” to Pence.

Democrats will find a way to interpret anything involving Trump in the most negative way possible which is what they are doing here. The impeachment of both Trump and Pence would set the stage for a President Pelosi, a dream come true for war weary Democrats.

Why is this idea starting to gain traction among the left leaning press, yet no one in Congress appears to want to talk about it?

For one thing, the optics would be bad for them. Maybe they realize they’ve already grossly overstepped by basing their case for Trump’s impeachment on a routine phone call.

Hot Air’s Allapundit has a theory and it goes like this. President Trump, along with many Republicans, myself included, see the Democrats impeachment inquiry as another coup attempt. The thinking is, that if lawmakers call for Pence to be impeached along with Trump, it’s the same as saying that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi should be President.

Now that would truly seem like a coup. Actually, it would be a coup. In fact, it’s already a coup.
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lol retards. That’s not how it works. If Trump was removed from office, Pence is automatically the President, then he appoints a new VP who would be in line before Pelosi. If they impeach Pence at that time, Pelosi still doesn’t get to be Pres. the new VP does.

They would have to impeach them both at the exact same time or if they both die in a plane crash which is exactly why they never fly in the same plane.
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Don't be so critically sensitive...

There may be some Plan behind his 'linking'...

He was instrumental in getting Trump elected.

It may be he's hooking in Libtards and will propagandize them at the correct opportunity.
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Drudge has become click bait trash.  I used to visit everyday but not anymore.
Don't be so critically sensitive...

There may be some Plan behind his 'linking'...

He was instrumental in getting Trump elected.

It may be he's hooking in Libtards and will propagandize them at the correct opportunity.
This thought has crossed my mind.
Link Posted: 10/3/2019 7:56:42 PM EST
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AOC supporter is fookin nuts we must eat the babies.

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Amb Volker spent 9.5 hours testifying behind closed doors today.

Since there has not been a ton of Schiff's "bathroom break leaks" coming out all day at regular intervals?

Highly likely there was NOTHING by Volker that HELPED the democrats.

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We really really really need to bring back insane asylums .  These people are fucking nuts!!!!
Link Posted: 10/3/2019 8:19:06 PM EST
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Giuliani just announced on OAN they were about 10 days away finishing draft of their lawsuit and then they will decide if they want to move forward.
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Trump wants to be impeached so he can get Obama Brennan clapper Rice Biden and all the rest to testify under oath.

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Patton (3/5) Movie CLIP - Rommel, You Magnificent Bastard (1970) HD


it's like potus and the white hats have read the deep state playbook and are getting ready to screw the hell out of them
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The more I see stuff like this, the more I open up to the line of thinking that POTUS has operatives running ops of this nature.
Link Posted: 10/3/2019 9:32:53 PM EST
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Close your eyes. Think of something absurdly criminal. Open your eyes. Say it out loud. The liberals have done that already.
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Levin telling the Senate to go nuclear.

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On a side note, forget the mistlecopter / rogue sub shit.  What could possibly go wrong here?  

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Letter from Shifty to HPSCI containing transcripts of text messages leading up to the call with President Zelenski.

https://foreignaffairs.house.gov/_cache/files/a/4/a4a91fab-99cd-4eb9-9c6c-ec1c586494b9/621801458E982E9903839ABC7404A917.chairmen-letter-on-state-departmnent-texts-10-03-19.pdf
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Letter from Shifty to HPSCI containing transcripts of text messages leading up to the call with President Zelenski.

https://foreignaffairs.house.gov/_cache/files/a/4/a4a91fab-99cd-4eb9-9c6c-ec1c586494b9/621801458E982E9903839ABC7404A917.chairmen-letter-on-state-departmnent-texts-10-03-19.pdf
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After reading a number of replies in that tweet, bloodshed is going to happen. I just don't see a completely peaceful ending to this. They are in a combination of ignorance and delusions to think the way they do and I doubt they'll ever accept the truth when it comes out.
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What the heck.

He already took all her money and left her owing Trump.
Guess he needs money to pay his legal bills.  

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