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Link Posted: 9/1/2019 1:51:15 PM EDT
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From the link..."According to OPD, the suspect shot at civilians on East Loop 338 and I-20 before they stole a U.S. Postal Service vehicle and continued the shooting spree."

Just a typo?
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No.  I believe the fast paced nature of what was happening, along with the probability of screwed up witness accounts, led to a whole lot of bad information coming out early on.  I don't think the cops even had a real idea of what they were dealing with until the incident was over.
Link Posted: 9/1/2019 1:52:07 PM EDT
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Fuck these reporters, is it time to ban ar rifles?
Link Posted: 9/1/2019 1:52:42 PM EDT
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Abbott hitting him with some facts
Link Posted: 9/1/2019 1:52:46 PM EDT
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All issues on the table to curb gun violence.
Link Posted: 9/1/2019 1:52:59 PM EDT
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We need to ramp up calling Texas legislators on this.
Link Posted: 9/1/2019 1:53:15 PM EDT
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Reporters should be required to self-identify when they ask a question.
Link Posted: 9/1/2019 1:53:16 PM EDT
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Fuck this reporter and his dumb questions
Link Posted: 9/1/2019 1:53:17 PM EDT
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JFC...

The media need to be beat
Link Posted: 9/1/2019 1:53:30 PM EDT
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Reporters should be required to self-identify when they ask a question.
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Yes
Link Posted: 9/1/2019 1:53:35 PM EDT
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Anyone catch the question about a cop firing on a blue truck? Was LAPD doing a ride along when his happened?
Link Posted: 9/1/2019 1:53:40 PM EDT
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"We will be looking at legislators to find out what the best solution is for Texas."
Link Posted: 9/1/2019 1:54:34 PM EDT
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Media wasted time asking stupid questions.
Link Posted: 9/1/2019 1:54:56 PM EDT
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We got one boys.
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After every one of these shootings people get on this General discussion section and don't admit to what's really happening they Pander and intellectually masturbate. We have a problem with white male Mass Shooters. Not to mention the opioid epidemic which is killing over 50,000 people a year. But I noticed people on here can talk about the ghetto this and ghetto that.??
We got one boys.
Normandy1944 seems to have an agenda. That said, he/she/it fails to see the problem for what it REALLY is, simple violence. The questions we should be asking involve WHY this is occurring (on ALL sides). In some cases, it is based on profit motive and lack of concern for consequences. In other cases, pure tribalism. In some other cases, it can be fear, lost hope, or a feeling of disenfranchisement based on media demonization. Some of these guys perceive themselves in the same way as a Jew against the Nazis during the Holocaust, or a Ukrainian farmer against the Socialists during the Holodomor. They see themselves on the edge of extermination or slavery. Last, there is perhaps the smallest the truly mentally ill who act out of emotion (anger, pain) or delusion.

Rather, Normandy is hung up on the race issue. He/she/it fails to see that much of the "ghetto this and ghetto that" commentary is blowback from the media demonization and blame/ shame of white conservatives. It is a reaction to the false and unreasonable accusations by media and Leftist politicians who use those accusations to further their quest for power and control.
Link Posted: 9/1/2019 1:56:35 PM EDT
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Fuck this reporter and his dumb questions
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Link Posted: 9/1/2019 1:56:56 PM EDT
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Time to round up all DUMBocrats !
Link Posted: 9/1/2019 1:56:56 PM EDT
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15 crimes scenes they have right now.
Link Posted: 9/1/2019 1:56:57 PM EDT
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Gun owners are lazy....we need to ramp it up every day, not because of this.  Legislative sessions are every 2 years.  This years has gaveled out.  2021 is your target date for new legislation.

Make your voice heard early and often, not just because of a shooting.
Link Posted: 9/1/2019 1:57:02 PM EDT
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So they are searching the shooters home.
Link Posted: 9/1/2019 1:57:55 PM EDT
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Federal search warrants issued. Might be the reason as to why his name hasn't been released.

if he's a pedo, that means a ring.
Link Posted: 9/1/2019 1:57:57 PM EDT
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Wow, we disagree.

Take that 4 or more stuff up with people who keep stats and make the definitions.  THE MEDIA TENDS TO OVER DRAMATIZE THINGS.

I am all about facts too.  The media wants their own set of facts.  You can either use their own facts against them or not.  If you cannot see the reasons this was posted, or why I am not sure what to tell you.  But it is way past time to choose up sides.  I am against the tin foil BS just like you.  But this goes by REAL definitions and stats.

NO WE DO NOT HAVE A WHITE MALE MASS SHOOTER PROBLEM.  You can believe or not.  But FACTS ARE FACTS.  Believe them or not.

ETA:  I would also add I am extremely disappointed in your take on this matter.  Not that you care, but real facts are real facts, and you tend to ask for them a lot.  Once presented you don't like them?
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4 or more people. That's a pretty low threshold. Another reason it doesn't hold water is because most of them - as far as I can tell - had some kind of motive that "makes sense". Robbery. Domestic violence. Drug deal gone wrong. I'm not excusing the level of violence, but we're talking about mass shooters in terms of a guy with no relation to the victims just blowing his top and going out in a blaze of glory. The other people on that list don't fit the bill. Call it a societal problem to ignore the others, but we tend to over-dramatize things we don't understand, like a guy driving from Dallas to El Paso and shooting a bunch of people in Wal Mart. That is inherently more scary than a gang-related shooting where 4 people are killed.
Wow, we disagree.

Take that 4 or more stuff up with people who keep stats and make the definitions.  THE MEDIA TENDS TO OVER DRAMATIZE THINGS.

I am all about facts too.  The media wants their own set of facts.  You can either use their own facts against them or not.  If you cannot see the reasons this was posted, or why I am not sure what to tell you.  But it is way past time to choose up sides.  I am against the tin foil BS just like you.  But this goes by REAL definitions and stats.

NO WE DO NOT HAVE A WHITE MALE MASS SHOOTER PROBLEM.  You can believe or not.  But FACTS ARE FACTS.  Believe them or not.

ETA:  I would also add I am extremely disappointed in your take on this matter.  Not that you care, but real facts are real facts, and you tend to ask for them a lot.  Once presented you don't like them?
A goblin shooting into a park picnic, funeral gathering or house-que(which occurs hundreds of times per year) doesn't seem to offend him as much as a shooting in a Walmart parking lot. Just because the shooter might know another goblin in attendance?
Link Posted: 9/1/2019 1:58:14 PM EDT
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Well we won't hear much more now.
Link Posted: 9/1/2019 1:58:16 PM EDT
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its all about the ar?
Link Posted: 9/1/2019 1:58:48 PM EDT
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its all about the ar?
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To some retarded reporters it is.
Link Posted: 9/1/2019 1:58:55 PM EDT
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That is possibly the dumbest tweet ever.  If the death toll goes up, and they aren't dying at the hospital, where were they.  Did they leave them laying in a ditch on the side of the road and just found them after the sun came up?

https://pics.me.me/that-dont-make-no-sense-makeameme-ord-31929737.png
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I believe that just means the others died in the Midland hospital.
Link Posted: 9/1/2019 1:59:01 PM EDT
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Media wasted time asking stupid questions.
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As stupid as most 'journalists' are 10 yr. olds sound smarter.

Fuck Leland Vitter, another moron like Shep Smith.
Link Posted: 9/1/2019 1:59:33 PM EDT
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I am going to say "Atheist" or "Heathen" and no moral compass.
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Shooter was probably some or all of the following:

1) Came from broken family
2) "Educated" in public schools
3) On some type of drug
4) Atheist

ALL of these are products of liberalism.  Yet they want to blame guns and gun owners.  Screw them and screw their system.
I am going to say "Atheist" or "Heathen" and no moral compass.
You two ride very tall horses
Link Posted: 9/1/2019 2:00:40 PM EDT
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Cops must have had something on him before they tried to pull him over.  I have yet to see a cop pull someone over for failing to use a turn signal --- I WISH THEY WOULD!!!  But I think they were on him for some other reason and jumped on it when he failed to signal.
Link Posted: 9/1/2019 2:01:19 PM EDT
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CNN is furious that white guy isn't named. Also mad that the AR wasn't brought up until questioned.
Link Posted: 9/1/2019 2:01:41 PM EDT
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As stupid as most 'journalists' are 10 yr. olds sound smarter.

Fuck Leland Vitter, another moron like Shep Smith.
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Leland is a Shep Jr.
Link Posted: 9/1/2019 2:01:45 PM EDT
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A goblin shooting into a park picnic, funeral gathering or house-que(which occurs hundreds of times per year) doesn't seem to offend him as much as a shooting in a Walmart parking lot. Just because the shooter might know another goblin in attendance?
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4 or more people. That's a pretty low threshold. Another reason it doesn't hold water is because most of them - as far as I can tell - had some kind of motive that "makes sense". Robbery. Domestic violence. Drug deal gone wrong. I'm not excusing the level of violence, but we're talking about mass shooters in terms of a guy with no relation to the victims just blowing his top and going out in a blaze of glory. The other people on that list don't fit the bill. Call it a societal problem to ignore the others, but we tend to over-dramatize things we don't understand, like a guy driving from Dallas to El Paso and shooting a bunch of people in Wal Mart. That is inherently more scary than a gang-related shooting where 4 people are killed.
Wow, we disagree.

Take that 4 or more stuff up with people who keep stats and make the definitions.  THE MEDIA TENDS TO OVER DRAMATIZE THINGS.

I am all about facts too.  The media wants their own set of facts.  You can either use their own facts against them or not.  If you cannot see the reasons this was posted, or why I am not sure what to tell you.  But it is way past time to choose up sides.  I am against the tin foil BS just like you.  But this goes by REAL definitions and stats.

NO WE DO NOT HAVE A WHITE MALE MASS SHOOTER PROBLEM.  You can believe or not.  But FACTS ARE FACTS.  Believe them or not.

ETA:  I would also add I am extremely disappointed in your take on this matter.  Not that you care, but real facts are real facts, and you tend to ask for them a lot.  Once presented you don't like them?
A goblin shooting into a park picnic, funeral gathering or house-que(which occurs hundreds of times per year) doesn't seem to offend him as much as a shooting in a Walmart parking lot. Just because the shooter might know another goblin in attendance?
Which is a big CROCK OF SHIT, in my humble opinion.  Use the definitions given to you to fullest extent available.  Facts are facts is how the left works, and a lot of times it is twisted special facts.

This is not even twisted or special facts.  It is real facts.  Again VERY disappointed in his stance on this issue!
Link Posted: 9/1/2019 2:02:32 PM EDT
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on the vehicle ramming and end of mail van:

outfucking standing.  Medal Time.
Link Posted: 9/1/2019 2:03:07 PM EDT
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What difference does it make? He's fucking dead.

It's not like he can enjoy or benefit from any notariety.
Link Posted: 9/1/2019 2:03:33 PM EDT
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What has he said that's wrong? Is there not an opioid epidemic? Are the mass shooters that end up on these rampages not typically 20-30 year old white makes?

Just look at this thread: We've had people blaming one or any of the following: Antifa, atheists, public education, illegal immigrants, etc. It's a ref;exive blame-game in the desperate hope that the bad guy is one of "them" - them being someone from a group we don't like. Add in a few conspiracy nuts that are claiming the FBI, police, and everyone else is working overtime to cover it all up, and you get your typical Arfcom GD derp thread.
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How is this "mass shooting" different from a warm chicago weekend?  It's not that any of this is factually incorrect its the motivations for sensationalizing this event vs 80 getting shot in a weekend in one city.  Hint: none of those shooters are while males in their 30s.

When you watch the biased reporting (or not) of objectively similar incidents you tend to wrap the tin foil a little tight and begin to think there is a motivation behind every little inconsistency.

factually speaking white male rampage shooting with assault weapons are rare, we all know the stats on people killed by any kind of rifle in this country(they are 4x less lethal than knives) ....yet they receive an enormous amount of publicity and drive not just discussion but legislation far more than the stacks of bodies racked up by minority on minority handgun violence.

While I agree there have been some out there conspiracy theories in this thread, and they are out there, it's obvious that some gun crime drives the discussion in a preferred direction and some doesn't.

I hate the derp too, but remember, just because you're paranoid...doesn't mean they aren't out to get you.  
Link Posted: 9/1/2019 2:03:50 PM EDT
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The fastest way we will learn more about this is from locals.
Link Posted: 9/1/2019 2:05:05 PM EDT
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After every one of these shootings people get on this General discussion section and don't admit to what's really happening they Pander and intellectually masturbate. We have a problem with white male Mass Shooters. Not to mention the opioid epidemic which is killing over 50,000 people a year. But I noticed people on here can talk about the ghetto this and ghetto that.??
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What's your screen name over at du?
Link Posted: 9/1/2019 2:05:40 PM EDT
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Fuck that police chief for not releasing the name and background on the shooter.  Showboating.  The name and background is necessary to identify where EXISTING laws failed.  As it is, he left it open for speculative legislation while impugning all white males.
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He didn't refuse to release the shooter's name, he just didn't want to say it in a presser...for whatever self-contrived reasoning he used to arrive at that stance.
Link Posted: 9/1/2019 2:06:28 PM EDT
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Cops must have had something on him before they tried to pull him over.  I have yet to see a cop pull someone over for failing to use a turn signal --- I WISH THEY WOULD!!!  But I think they were on him for some other reason and jumped on it when he failed to signal.
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Oh, I definitely think you're right about that.

They actually didn't say he failed to signal. They say he didn't signal at the required distance from the turn.

The only place I've ever known to routinely do that is Driscoll TX, where they'll stop those Mexican convoys and ultimately impound their vehicles for a couple days because they don't have the insurance required.

Hell, maybe the guy was swerving drunk or driving slowly because he was texting or talking.
Link Posted: 9/1/2019 2:06:48 PM EDT
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Cops must have had something on him before they tried to pull him over.  I have yet to see a cop pull someone over for failing to use a turn signal --- I WISH THEY WOULD!!!  But I think they were on him for some other reason and jumped on it when he failed to signal.
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They work traffic stops big time in Texas
Link Posted: 9/1/2019 2:06:58 PM EDT
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From Houston, along I-69/US Hwy 59 N ,out 80-100 miles specifically.

It"s simple really. Labor Day weekend, tons of traffic and a lot of drinking and driving.
Four people in the car. They get pulled over.

Trooper One conducts the stop and deals with the driver.
Trooper Two manages the other 2-3-4 passengers who are usually removed from the car ( it's really hot here and unsafe to stay in a car from 20-30 minutes) and are standing/kneeling on the roadside, facing away from road.

I travel 120 miles a day , six days a week on I-69/59 and see this played 3-4 times week.
The two man unit eliminates a long 5-10 minute response for back up.
Link Posted: 9/1/2019 2:09:28 PM EDT
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One thing to add,
if CNN says they agree with the LEO & don't release the scumbags name one thing is for sure, the scumbag is
Not White or maybe even not a Christian.
We'll know soon enough.
Link Posted: 9/1/2019 2:09:40 PM EDT
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AR weapon used. Not sure how he obtained it, obviously a felon.
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Or they haven't yet been able to track down whoever sold it to him FTF or who it was stolen from.
Link Posted: 9/1/2019 2:10:28 PM EDT
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Media is trying to rip apart Abbott's comments saying he promised a blue ribbon committee early on to solve this but there's been 5 mass shootings in Texas since and action isn't happening. Really keying in on banning "weapons of war" as the action the left sees that will stop this.
Link Posted: 9/1/2019 2:10:32 PM EDT
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CNN is furious that white guy isn't named. Also mad that the AR wasn't brought up until questioned.
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Lady was upset they didn't give his name so they could search his social media to see if he was a Trump supporter!  And said the police are supposed to give them all info so that they the media can decide what is relevant to the public!

It's incredible they don't even try to hide their bias and true colors anymore.
Link Posted: 9/1/2019 2:10:56 PM EDT
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Sorry. This kind of thing has become too politically charged now for that.
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This isn't one of "those" types of shootings anyway.  This wasn't a guy trying to make a statement, there was no manifesto.

He was a criminal trying to evade arrest and apparently thought killing a bunch of people might work as a smokescreen.
Link Posted: 9/1/2019 2:10:57 PM EDT
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Gun owners are lazy....we need to ramp it up every day, not because of this.  Legislative sessions are every 2 years.  This years has gaveled out.  2021 is your target date for new legislation.

Make your voice heard early and often, not just because of a shooting.
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We need to ramp up calling Texas legislators on this.
Gun owners are lazy....we need to ramp it up every day, not because of this.  Legislative sessions are every 2 years.  This years has gaveled out.  2021 is your target date for new legislation.

Make your voice heard early and often, not just because of a shooting.
Well said, sir.
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What has he said that's wrong? Is there not an opioid epidemic? Are the mass shooters that end up on these rampages not typically 20-30 year old white makes?

Just look at this thread: We've had people blaming one or any of the following: Antifa, atheists, public education, illegal immigrants, etc. It's a ref;exive blame-game in the desperate hope that the bad guy is one of "them" - them being someone from a group we don't like. Add in a few conspiracy nuts that are claiming the FBI, police, and everyone else is working overtime to cover it all up, and you get your typical Arfcom GD derp thread.
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Man I know you're a mod and all but.....

Seriously dude?

You're gonna white knight an obvious troll?
Link Posted: 9/1/2019 2:11:41 PM EDT
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They work traffic stops big time in Texas
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Cops must have had something on him before they tried to pull him over.  I have yet to see a cop pull someone over for failing to use a turn signal --- I WISH THEY WOULD!!!  But I think they were on him for some other reason and jumped on it when he failed to signal.
They work traffic stops big time in Texas
That’s correct. Lots of vehicle equipment stops in TX.  There might have been more to the stop but if they had been tailing him you would think they wouldn’t have been caught off gaurd by the suspect firing at them.  If they knew who they were stopping there likely would have been back up before making contact.
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Yep, unknown as to how it was acquired.

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One can get a DUI or two, not be a felon, yet still have a criminal record attached to their drivers license. No?
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One thing to add,
if CNN says they agree with the LEO & don't release the scumbags name one thing is for sure, the scumbag is
Not White or maybe even not a Christian.
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They are mad that his name wasn't released. If the guy has a Hispanic last name, they will probably cut back to 24/7 Dorian coverage.
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Agree with him or not, Zhuk makes a lot of good points. Significant difference between domestic violence/drug/crime related shootings that total over four victims, and the premeditated public shoot-em-ups of whoever happens to be out and about that day.

That distinction has one upside...it makes the true rage/insanity driven mass shootings even rarer than they appear...if only it was reported that way. Lumping every four victim homicide into the "deranged killer with an semi-auto" category bolsters the ban argument, and diverts attention away from the "we have a serious inner-city crime issue".

We're doing a poor job of framing the reality, or, maybe to be more accurate, the progressives/MSM are doing a better job hyping their agenda.
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You serious Clark????

Shootings are of EVIL.....You want to classify EVIL?

My condolences to your critical thinking.
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