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Posted: 4/8/2018 10:16:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A pic you took during your vacation in London is a "fact" about the ethnic composition of the city. Are you high? You're the one calling my son a liar. If he says there's a shitload of muslims guess what? its because he's right. Check out the wikipedia link explaining the ethic composition of London if you have a problem understanding that. That was in 2011 and the city has grown in population 40% since then, mostly "asian" immigrants. I have maybe 10GB of pictures from all over the world and I bet I can go through half of them looking pretty damn good, which like your holyday pics proove nothing at all. I never said I didn’t see a number of Muslims. Your son said there were “no white people there”. If you look hard enough, you might find a burka or beard in my photos. Why are you trying to put words into my mouth? Simply stated that my experience was not the same when visiting...as a tourist....same places as your son. The difference is that I actually provided evidence. |
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Posted: 4/8/2018 10:18:29 AM EDT
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dupe
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Posted: 4/8/2018 10:18:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Way to try and change the subject. I never disputed that there are radical Muslim elements in London. Sorry to respond with facts and actual observations to dispute your son’s anecdotal evidence. Your original post in case you forgot. And more...” you call Buckingham Palace, Notting Hill, Thames River Cruise, Piccadilly Circus and the Britsh Museum shitholes then yes.” Why are you getting so angry? |
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Posted: 4/8/2018 10:19:06 AM EDT
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MUSEUM OF NATURAL HISTORYhttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/79549/B8375957-182B-42EB-B7E9-C7656D40344D-508503.JPGTOWER OF LONDON CROWN JEWELShttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/79549/E4438FAB-98B9-4249-827E-4721B0F17B9D-508504.JPG BATHhttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/79549/E7C7B92B-4356-4150-8E19-CFDF1BCCC65E-508505.JPG |
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Posted: 4/8/2018 10:21:07 AM EDT
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There are a ton of white people there, dont know where your son was at. Also your bias against the UK is showing.
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Posted: 4/8/2018 10:22:36 AM EDT
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The whole of Europe is now a Muslim Country they are just to politically correct to admit it.
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Posted: 4/8/2018 10:22:40 AM EDT
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PSA: Ferfal is a pro EU socialist fella and takes any opportunity to bash the UK. That is all.
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Posted: 4/8/2018 10:22:44 AM EDT
[#8]
Sounds just like San Francisco.
 Except there were a lot of weirdos in San Francisco.
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Posted: 4/8/2018 10:23:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My guess is that you called his son prejudiced and a liar. I think this is just a normal reaction to having your post blow up in your face. 
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Posted: 4/8/2018 10:24:10 AM EDT
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GRANDPA!!!!!! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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His observations. 4. Best part of the trip was hanging out with the girls in the hotel room. GRANDPA!!!!!!
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Posted: 4/8/2018 10:25:02 AM EDT
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My mother is English. She went back after being stateside for the past 50 years. She said it was nothing like she remembered and half the people in certain areas were speaking Arabic (which she also speaks) and walking in burka's. I wasn't surprised at OPs post.  I could say the same about many big cities in this country. Lol
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Posted: 4/8/2018 10:26:45 AM EDT
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I did not care for London in 1978 and 1982.
I would not waste my time or money visiting there again. |
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Posted: 4/8/2018 10:27:31 AM EDT
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Dont get me wrong in general he had a good time. As I was saying he didnt go with any negative preconceptions. Maybe if he had gone with a very negative idea of what to expect he would have been more pleasantly surprised. We're talking with some other parents about organizing another trip sooner. It really is cheap to travel around EU. UK was one of the most expensive options but since they are leaving the EU soon it made more sense to do it now. Traveling to Prague for example is much cheaper. Hell, you can probably find tickets for 100 bucks and the hotel isnt all that much more. Sometimes you find tickets for 40 or 50 bucks. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Dont get me wrong in general he had a good time. As I was saying he didnt go with any negative preconceptions. Maybe if he had gone with a very negative idea of what to expect he would have been more pleasantly surprised. Quoted:
He should have gone to Prague. Traveling to Prague for example is much cheaper. Hell, you can probably find tickets for 100 bucks and the hotel isnt all that much more. Sometimes you find tickets for 40 or 50 bucks. 
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Posted: 4/8/2018 10:39:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Need I remind you ....once again....about the claims your son made about the same tourists areas I recently visited and provided pictures of? I made no claims about the “ethnic composition of the city”. Simply stated that my experience was not the same when visiting...as a tourist....same places as your son. The difference is that I actually provided evidence. Quote HistoryQuoted: Need I remind you ....once again....about the claims your son made about the same tourists areas I recently visited and provided pictures of? I made no claims about the “ethnic composition of the city”. Simply stated that my experience was not the same when visiting...as a tourist....same places as your son. The difference is that I actually provided evidence. Your son is either a liar or prejudiced. Not sure the angle to your posts. You dont have shit. You dont have any evidence of any kind. What you have is a serious denial or reading comprehension problem if you dont understand the ethinc population of London as it is today. Yes, in spite of the pic you took at the museum.
My son says there's a lot of muslims/"asians"/blacks/rich multicultural WTF people and its true. He said it was pretty filthy and dirty and I looked it up, he's right about there being a problem with garbage bins being replaced with fewer new bomb proof ones that have wifi and spy on people passing by (didnt know about that until now). There's more poverty, more beggers and thats also true. Just google it. Why you had to be an attention whore, that I dont know. You expressed your experience in your first post. But you just couldnt control yourself and had to insult my son who you dont even know in the next one. |
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Posted: 4/8/2018 10:41:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm going to Prague in the next month, and I'm hoping it's as nice as they say it is. |
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Posted: 4/8/2018 10:42:01 AM EDT
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Depending on the source London is 70 to 80% white. Impossible not to see white people. |
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Posted: 4/8/2018 10:43:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No, you simply stated your experience was not the same in your FIRST post. I of course had no problem with. Thats after all your experience. But since no one clearly gave a fuck about it and it didnt get the attention you wanted you just had to go on and post: now THAT got my attention and I guess you won after all because you got the attention you wanted so bad. You dont have shit. You dont have any evidence of any kind. What you have is a serious denial or reading comprehension problem if you dont understand the ethinc population of London as it is today. Yes, in spite of the pic you took at the museum.
My son says there's a lot of muslims/"asians"/blacks/rich multicultural WTF people and its true. He said it was pretty filthy and dirty and I looked it up, he's right about there being a problem with garbage bins being replaced with fewer new bomb proof ones that have wifi and spy on people passing by (didnt know about that until now). There's more poverty, more beggers and thats also true. Just google it. Why you had to be an attention whore, that I dont know. You expressed your experience in your first post. But you just couldnt control yourself and had to insult my son who you dont even know in the next one. This is more about attacking you personally as a poster than it is about anything you posted. |
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Posted: 4/8/2018 10:45:05 AM EDT
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So if they expelled their Muslim invaders half those problems would go away.
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Posted: 4/8/2018 10:46:31 AM EDT
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Always thought it was dirty. Paris was terrible in 77-79 Every other place I visited in Europe in those years was beautiful. London was safe and fun. Munich was awesome. I didn't ever want to leave Salzburg. It's a shame what's happened. I wonder how many European citizens are even aware of the change? Do they not have memories or pictures of what it was like only a few decades ago? |
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Posted: 4/8/2018 10:48:52 AM EDT
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People tend to find/see what they are looking for.
It’s a shame his trip was wasted. |
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Posted: 4/8/2018 10:51:55 AM EDT
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His observations. 1. Nope, theres no white people there, just rude "asians", as in muslim asians..
2. Dirty as fuck. No normal trash bins around cuz bombs. 3. Full of bums, beggars and drunks. Drunks everywhere. 4. Best part of the trip was hanging out with the girls in the hotel room. Your son is
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Posted: 4/8/2018 10:52:45 AM EDT
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What part of London was he in?
I was just there three years ago, and I saw little of that. I did see several homeless on a side street in the West End after seeing a play. They were just bedded down. That was the only moment that I didn't feel completely safe. I saw people from all over the world, including Muslims, but they were a small minority. I don't recall seeing any significant amounts of trash. |
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Posted: 4/8/2018 10:55:11 AM EDT
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I'll be there this summer.
Good to know.
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Posted: 4/8/2018 10:58:08 AM EDT
[#24]
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That's what the media calls those groups of people. That way it makes it sound more like you're talking about Japanese, Chinese, Filipinos... and not a Middle Eastern border country. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Muslim Asians? Lol. Did they go to shithole parts of town? |
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Posted: 4/8/2018 10:59:17 AM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Way to try and change the subject. I never disputed that there are radical Muslim elements in London. Sorry to respond with facts and actual observations to dispute your son’s anecdotal evidence. Your original post in case you forgot. And more...” you call Buckingham Palace, Notting Hill, Thames River Cruise, Piccadilly Circus and the Britsh Museum shitholes then yes.” Why are you getting so angry? |
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Posted: 4/8/2018 11:01:04 AM EDT
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Thats because for some weird reason, Americans have decided to use the word "Asians" when they mean Orientals. Asia is a lot bigger than that, and the British use is more accurate. |
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Posted: 4/8/2018 11:03:23 AM EDT
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That sucks. 20 years ago it was the opposite. |
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Posted: 4/8/2018 11:03:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I’ve gone to London almost every year since 2007, and while there have been changes, your son is nuts. It’s jot like that at all. Compared to NYC or Boston, London is super clean and only in certain areas are there a large amount of Muslims. Your son is |
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Posted: 4/8/2018 11:05:34 AM EDT
[#29]
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I was going to post the same thing. Went there in 1999 or so. Clean city, felt safe, lots of night life, local girls were fun. It's crazy how fast things can change. |
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Posted: 4/8/2018 11:06:57 AM EDT
[#30]
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Well I pin the blame on the OP, he's probably brainwashed him to hate everything British... Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: I’ve gone to London almost every year since 2007, and while there have been changes, your son is nuts. It’s jot like that at all. Compared to NYC or Boston, London is super clean and only in certain areas are there a large amount of Muslims. Your son is |
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Posted: 4/8/2018 11:07:21 AM EDT
[#31]
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While there has been an influx of Muslims, it's nowhere near what the OP's son is claiming, at all. I was just there a month ago and I assure you it's still predominantly white. |
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Posted: 4/8/2018 11:11:04 AM EDT
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People tend to find/see what they are looking for. It’s a shame his trip was wasted. Quote HistoryQuoted:
People tend to find/see what they are looking for. It’s a shame his trip was wasted. I think its the opposite. I think his expectations where a tad too high and the city was more dirty and "multicultural" in a muslim/asian kind of way than expected. Quoted:
What part of London was he in? I was just there three years ago, and I saw little of that. I did see several homeless on a side street in the West End after seeing a play. They were just bedded down. That was the only moment that I didn't feel completely safe. I saw people from all over the world, including Muslims, but they were a small minority. I don't recall seeing any significant amounts of trash. The poverty/homeless and garbage tihng is more kind of recent. Rough sleeper numbers in England rise for seventh year running Why few trash cans in London - Business Insider |
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Posted: 4/8/2018 11:11:07 AM EDT
[#33]
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That's good to hear. I'd like to go back and do all the touristy stuff with my wife and kids at some point. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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While there has been an influx of Muslims, it's nowhere near what the OP's son is claiming, at all. I was just there a month ago and I assure you it's still predominantly white. |
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Posted: 4/8/2018 11:16:00 AM EDT
[#34]
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Your son is either a liar or prejudiced. Not sure the angle to your posts. My trip last week.
Do you know who ferfal is? Angle of his posts? Racism? I'll take his assessments over yours any day. |
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Posted: 4/8/2018 11:16:28 AM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Lol. They surpassed NYC by 1 death thus far this year. 14 vs 15 last I saw. It will be interesting to see if it continues, but chances are NYC will win.  As opposed to nyc where it’s a murder unless it’s an obvious suicide |
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Posted: 4/8/2018 11:16:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: ThatsNiceDear.jpg
Do you know who ferfal is? Angle of his posts? Racism? I'll take his assessments over yours any day. |
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Posted: 4/8/2018 11:17:02 AM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I’ve gone to London almost every year since 2007, and while there have been changes, your son is nuts. It’s jot like that at all. Compared to NYC or Boston, London is super clean and only in certain areas are there a large amount of Muslims. Your son is |
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Posted: 4/8/2018 11:17:45 AM EDT
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Also Pakistanis and Muslim Indians. Brits correctly refer to them as "Asians." Americans seem to think the Middle East stretches out to central China. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: That hasn't been my experience. But not surprising coming from an Argentinian  Islam is the largest religion in Southeast Asia. IIRC over half the Muslim population is from the Asia-Pacific region. Brits correctly refer to them as "Asians." Americans seem to think the Middle East stretches out to central China. Can you imagine, a country full of Central and West Asians think of Asians as Pakistanis, while a country with more East Asians think of them as East Asians. What a bizarre country. |
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Posted: 4/8/2018 11:18:23 AM EDT
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ThatsNiceDear.jpg
Do you know who ferfal is? Angle of his posts? Racism? I'll take his assessments over yours any day. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Your son is either a liar or prejudiced. Not sure the angle to your posts. My trip last week.
Do you know who ferfal is? Angle of his posts? Racism? I'll take his assessments over yours any day. |
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Posted: 4/8/2018 11:19:20 AM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
He should have gone to Prague.
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Posted: 4/8/2018 11:20:20 AM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I don’t know who OP is, he historically anti-Brit? I lived in NI (UK) for 4 years. You can imagine how anti British I must be if I chose to live there for fours years. Never had a problem because I was Argentine. Some of my family still lives in London. But oh well. making up shit about people you dont know is always fun 
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Posted: 4/8/2018 11:20:25 AM EDT
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I went. I didn't want to leave. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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He should have gone to Prague.
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Posted: 4/8/2018 11:20:50 AM EDT
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I don’t know who ferfal is, please enlighten me. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: ThatsNiceDear.jpg
Do you know who ferfal is? Angle of his posts? Racism? I'll take his assessments over yours any day. |
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Posted: 4/8/2018 11:20:54 AM EDT
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Warsaw will soon be the last bastion of old world western civilization. |
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Posted: 4/8/2018 11:21:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
He should have gone to Prague. Or Budapest. |
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Posted: 4/8/2018 11:24:02 AM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I don’t know who OP is, he historically anti-Brit? |
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Posted: 4/8/2018 11:25:32 AM EDT
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He thinks I'm anti-British because I'm from Argentina. Very much like saying Americans are anti-British given that they fought Brits as well. Or anti German, anti-Japanese, anti-Spanish, anti-Mexicans, and kinda a dozen other countries. I lived in NI (UK) for 4 years. You can imagine how anti British I must be if I chose to live there for fours years. Never had a problem because I was Argentine. Some of my family still lives in London. But oh well. making up shit about people you dont know is always fun C'mon man...
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Posted: 4/8/2018 11:27:32 AM EDT
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I have never been to London but I have a hard time believing there are no white people there as OP stated. Here is a live webcam of Abby Road in London (It's what google returned on the first page, there are lots more). I see white people.
https://www.earthcam.com/world/england/london/abbeyroad/?cam=abbeyroad_uk |
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Posted: 4/8/2018 11:27:54 AM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No, you simply stated your experience was not the same in your FIRST post. I of course had no problem with. Thats after all your experience. But since no one clearly gave a fuck about it and it didnt get the attention you wanted you just had to go on and post: now THAT got my attention and I guess you won after all because you got the attention you wanted so bad. You dont have shit. You dont have any evidence of any kind. What you have is a serious denial or reading comprehension problem if you dont understand the ethinc population of London as it is today. Yes, in spite of the pic you took at the museum.
My son says there's a lot of muslims/"asians"/blacks/rich multicultural WTF people and its true. He said it was pretty filthy and dirty and I looked it up, he's right about there being a problem with garbage bins being replaced with fewer new bomb proof ones that have wifi and spy on people passing by (didnt know about that until now). There's more poverty, more beggers and thats also true. Just google it. Why you had to be an attention whore, that I dont know. You expressed your experience in your first post. But you just couldnt control yourself and had to insult my son who you dont even know in the next one. If your son is not a liar or prejudiced, can you explain why his experience...when visiting the same places...was so vastly different than mine....as PROVED with pictures? Again you posted that he stated that there were “no whites”...it was filthy....bums and drunks everywhere. Can you explain this discrepancy? |
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Posted: 4/8/2018 11:30:39 AM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
That hasn't been my experience. But not surprising coming from an Argentinian
Islam is the largest religion in Southeast Asia. IIRC over half the Muslim population is from the Asia-Pacific region. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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His observations. 1. Nope, theres no white people there, just rude "asians", as in muslim asians..
2. Dirty as fuck. No normal trash bins around cuz bombs. 3. Full of bums, beggars and drunks. Drunks everywhere. 4. Best part of the trip was hanging out with the girls in the hotel room. But not surprising coming from an Argentinian
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Muslim Asians? Lol. |
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