This? Crowder is a bitch

Shows you how corrupt and greedy EVERYONE is…….fuck those companies, go out do your own thing bring the talent on to your own company.  Fuck everyone

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Did they refer to it as a Kayne clause?

It's rich seeing people who have such an elementary understanding of the world start to invoke to invoke things like "muh communism" when they've clearly never read Marx.

Nice and programmed mouthpiece for the same people who are inflicting all the ills you complain about.

What we're talking about is a company who claims to have a particular set of moral principles, who then engages in incredibly predatory tactics.

If you take any of the individual components of the contract, as a form of risk mitigation that is fairly excusable. But when you take them as a whole, it is the same disgusting predatory behavior we complain about from the likes Hollywood.

If you get the returns on sales then why wouldn't you ... but that is the key point isn't it. You can only know by trying it for a quarter.

3 for 3, you're on a streak.
I not calling for any changes in laws ...those companies that push these retarded contracts have every right to do so. . . . it doesnt mean there is any obligation to sign. Crowder is warning newcomers not to, and is his right. He's informing his audience of the pitfalls of doing so and demonstrating how we get so many schlups singing the same tune, and worse, refusing to sing 'out-of-key' and buck the system.

That's predatory? To be told to hit a deadline or take the hit? To be told to read an ad from the companies paying you to read ads?

What kind of job do you have where nothing matters and you can fly by the seat of your ass?

Crowder did once say on air to Shapiro “Where do you hide all your Jew gold?”

This , and no one has proved up to now that this was a DW contract ?

Thread ended before it started and almost every post here is for the shits .

well of course.  But it smacks a tad hypocritical when you purport to be primarily motivated by amplifying the signal over revenue

You got a link to this ?

I don't recall that here . . .

So a big company is telling him if he wants to be a martyr to be a martyr on his own dime?   If big company is not making money off his content they are going to pay him less?   This seems less about big company agreeing with Youtube/Google/Facebook and more about them telling him not to get caught.  He should have figured out by now how to poke the bear with a stick (get his point on the airwaves) but not get in the cage with it (get demonetized).

Pretty much the GOP saying...oh look were not as bad as the DNC...but we're going to let them run our HR department.

I wonder if the team trump poster has the former owner of slide fire solutions on it?

Let’s put this another way for you. You have a company with $100,000 in monthly sales (subscriptions) I have a company with $90,000 in monthly sales (subscriptions) you and I also pull in some ad revenue. We want to merge and make a better company. After the merger we sit at $190,000 a month, I suddenly lose my own ad revenue because of censorship. Now our contract says you’re entitled to 85% of my subscription fees, and you own my likeness.

That is a terrible contract that no one should sign in the first place. What makes it substantially worse is that your $100,000 a month came from telling rubes you vehemently oppose censorship. Apparently not enough to stop lining your pockets when it happens to your employees.

Frisbee hat mafia doing frisbee hat things

Fuck daily wire

Um yeah....If Crowder can pull in cash without being on youtube that shouldn't be a problem.
Crowder would have to understand that less views means less money but no doubt there are options.
Are we saying there is no room for any content that can't run on youtube?

Good.

The daily wire is shitty, boring, controlled opposition.

I like the guy but he has clearly been letting the pressure get to him.
Guy has to find the joy and force it...of course he's fighting a war vs groomers and globalists so that would be hard to manage mentally.

It’s not the blaze, I doubt it’s Fox News, who’s left in conservative media? OAN? Doubt

well that comment isn't a terrible look or anything.

He's said repeatedly that he is demonetized on YouTube.

Where does my subscription money go then?

The kind of job that doesn't own my facebook and instagram accounts or the right to make something under my own name.

So the hit I take if I don't line up to expectations is being fired.  My boss can't just pay me less. Because we agreed to a specific rate based on time worked.

Then make him a lower offer, but telling him he has to kowtow to the fascist left or hes going to be penalized is bullshit.

It isn't.

I fail to see why anyone who already made a name for himself would sign such a contract.
He has enough followers of his own.

Do you think any of those platforms operate honestly, fairly, and truthfully?

They persecute those who speak the truth, because the truth is contradictory to the authoritarian left.

He’s demonetized but it is still a subscription funnel for him.

I’m content to split the middle here.

Daily Wire et al to me are part of the Grifter Right.  It’s as simple as that.  They latch on to new conservative voices, monetize them, corporatize them, and then snip off their balls, and so a few years later they become indistinguishable from mushy mealy mouth “conservatives” spouting off bullshit like a path to citizenship and compassionate conservatism.  

After his split with the blaze he has no delivery method other than where he has been demonetized. He needs streaming architecture for hundreds of thousands of subscribers. That is hard to build on your own without preparing for it.

Controlling media...all of it...is crucial to keeping a corrupt elite in power.

I don't see the issue here.  Kinda seems like Crowder is the one going after the money.  The contract doesn't stop him from doing things, he just gets paid less.  If he's all about getting the word out and not money, he would sign the contract.  Seems like he wants someone else to spend the money for a money losing business.

Or he could rebuild.  Do a GoFundMe for startup capital and build his base again which shouldn't take too long.  He's not going to make much money being demonetized.  But if it's about getting the word out then it shouldn't matter.

that's something I didn't like about the Blaze even with a subscription you got ads.

If he loses 85% of his revenue because he talks about clot shots, his crew is now out of a job. I’m hoping he rebuilds, glad he shined a light on the hypocrisy over at DW (If this isn’t Daily Wire I’ll publicly take back everything I said) on his way back up.

On the one hand, if you aren't making money for your employer, why should you be making money...

...but in this case

any conservative personality on the internet that does their job of exposing the left too well gets demonetized and/or completely de-platformed.  Crowder has a point, if you do your job well enough you will be locked into a contract that has penalized you down to 5-15% of your salary with no out(that I'm aware of).

That's fucking insane and anyone looking to actually stick it to the left in any kind of effective manner would never agree to that.  Not with what we have seen Youtube, Facebook, and Twitter pull against conservatives in the past.

He's also absolutely right that this does a great job of showing the big tech companies and advertisers that things like bans, demonetization, and advertising boycotts will work.  Especially when all the things that they dock your salary for seem to come in waves.

I have to think that was his existing contract.  He's been demonetized for years on YouTube and get's banned all the time.

I listen to Chad Prather as well and he dances around the saying the clot shot a lot.

If that is a current contract it's laughable especially in this day and age where you can get canceled for making fun of the cunt that married into the royal family, saying there might be an issue with the vaccine or that an election is questionable.

Someone mentioned ownership of his content and social media.  No fucking way I would sign that shit away.  I saw what they did to Prince.

His best option is to go out on his own. If Anthony Cumia could do it, Crowder can do it.

I thought he was fined as well...

Crowder's contention is they are also ensnaring the little guys that are starting out with these terms. Effectively preventing them from carving their own way and saying stuff the big tech (and let's face it, the world governments) don't want said.

It's the same thing as the moral high ground self censorship trap that 'conservatives' walk into all the time. "We won't fight like that." <-- which is why you lose, dummy.

Should his earning be at the mercy of left wing loons who will cancel him over nothing/ meaning he has to toe the line? They should be backing him not forcing him to be a mouse.

We are in clown world people are being fired because pedo fake women tell your boss that you follow Gina Carcano on  twater  

Just following somebody ruins your life. You want them to have this power?

Did you even watch the video?

It was the opposite of ego.

This thread is dumb

That makes sense.
I was unaware that he was demonetized.

Is he related to Ava Crowder from the Justified TV show?

How do these elites manage to control both the right and left wing media down to every platform like this? Ideologically the people running these various outlets seem to have very little in common. Is Shapiro or Beck in league with the stooges at NPR etc? How are they controlled by the same person? Or is it an ideology that they both subscribe to in their various ways? It's a curious thing.

People sure seem to be in a hurry to lick the leather of the boots on their neck.

It is a bad contract for Crowder, or really anyone. Which is the point of the video. It would amount to Crowder selling his business since the contract notes they "Unknown Company" now owns all his merchandising and other rights. In exchange for giving up all of his rights to everything he has created he gets to deal with the fun of having to:

1. Avoid talking about anything controversial. The only reason "Unknown Company" cares about social media revenue is that they now own those channels per the contract.

2.  He is talking about signing up with a subscription based service. As in if i want to see the content I, as a consumer, have to pay a certain amount of money per month. If I pay 25 bucks a month, or an amount per year to watch Crowder on "Unknown Platform" and tomorrow Crowder suffers a heart attack I can choose to stop subscribing, or just wait until his content resumes.  These are typically monthly or yearly subscriptions. However lets say Crowder has a heart attack, goes to the ER, and spends a week under observation. He misses 1 show. Per the contract that week in the hospital is going to cost him 700k (100k a day) in penalties. I don't know what kind of weird ass version of capitalism you live under but i've never had a boss send me a bill for time i spent in the hospital. Usually its a get well soon, and goodbye to a chunk of my PTO.  

3. Change how he handles advertisements. Crowder apparently does one advertisement at the beginning. He likes doing that. Trying to name drop a bunch of random products is a PITA.  But first this post brought to you by 17 Leeches Who Want to Over Promise and Under Deliver. Are you mad about thing? Give us money! Now back to the post but first a word from our sponsor...

While Crowder knows this is a terrible deal many people may not. He is likely pissed at discovering the people he thought were on the same side as him are actively working against conservative interests.  

Conservatives were told to build their own platforms. When they did those platforms became just as bad as the original platforms. In my opinion it is not accidental. Anyone with the ability, and passion who could get enough of a base to be a successful is likely snapped up early in an oppressive contract to dilute their brand all while being under the complete control of a larger corporate body they cannot escape if they ever do manage to make it big. Same problem we have in Washington DC. You either sell your soul, or get marginalized and your enemies funded in the next election cycle to make sure the only people with any real voice are controlled.  

It doesn't make sense if you see the world in terms of left and right.

It absolutely does when you see the more realistic picture of top vs. bottom.

What NPR and Ben Shapiro agree on is that you're too stupid/ignorant/uneducated to have meaningful say in government. The "right" sort of people should be making decisions, and that ain't you.

Shapiro drinks from the same polluted water that NPR does, hence him gargling authoritarian balls about lockdowns, vaccine mandates, NeverTrumpig, etc. He's an establishment stooge because he has the same conceit the rest of them do.

Are you asking if a fictional TV character is related to a non-fictional media person?

Can I have some of what you are having? I have had too much reality for today.

The scary part about this, is this is what Steven Crowder
was offered.

I can only imagine what smaller creators contacts look like.