What's funny is that the gov is the one responsible for making these trucks much bigger than they need to be. Just yesterday I saw an old, OLD Toyota truck on the road. Me and my buddy were like: Check that shit out! Haven't seen one of those in forever! Then we were shocked when it got up on the ramp to get on the highway!!
It was a tiny little truck, I can't even remember what model it was as it wasn't on any part of the truck. It looked like a Chevy Luv, remember those? It was probably even smaller than that!

I understand where you're coming from, but I would be concerned with blocking/disrupting air flow into the engine bay.

Well the trucks have to keep up with their drivers:

Comrades! Rejoice! This glorious people’s vehicle will be the only one approved by the People’s Politburo!

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She is baiting you

So far only one piece of hate mail for my big trucks/hyper masculinity story and it was pretty tame.

— Angie Schmitt\uD83D\uDEB6??? (@schmangee) March 15, 2021

Karens and single moms are the biggest threat to our society.

So much wrong with this post. Why do you hate freedom?

Cat herder joins in on the man hate

Absolutely spot on article! My term is Compensation. (BTW, I DM'd you!)

Sally Bahner  (@CatsBahner) March 15, 2021

There, there... it's going to be okay.

Now go ahead and tell us where the big, mean truck touched you.

Back off fellas. She's all mine

"I'm a (literal) big boy, and I want a biiiiiiiig pickup!"

"Your Prius is my crumple zone."

lol now the feminista Expert Class is angry that automobiles look like crap land whales because pedestrian safety and feels regulations

Damn.  Only thing missing from that steaming pile of written leftist excrement is George Floyd and BLM.

Last time I rented a Dodge Dakota (the size of a large Ram from the 90s), it was like driving a boat-spaceship.  Ridiculously tall (which makes using it as a truck, not a 4-wheeler, much more difficult), and most of the cab was inaccessible from the ground on each side due to be raised and so wide.

But I'm sure it works great as a mobile Lay-Z-Boy for trucker-moms in traffic all day.

The NYT scare-mongering the Dodge Demon was the best ever, lol.

Gold!

Sure, it bounced the cyclist fifty feet, off an overpass, and onto a busy freeway...but at no point prior to impact with the pavement did he experience more than 30 G's.

I do think it bizarre that trucks all look like bricks for the same reason cars all look like jellybeans

Not when it comes to objective aesthetics, no.

Maybe once they put a toilet seat in the trunk.

Tell this to the last deer I hit with my Ram. Barely even felt it.
I like big safe trucks.

*Cat food, not lesbians

I actually read this article while idling my F350 diesel dually diesel parking lot of an Ivy League University Vet Hospital

No wonder I’m getting so many dirty looks.  

Lol.....fuck em

My Challenger's 6.4 engine is just as big as hell, yet the radiator is like 1/2 the volume.  The car is huge...but not Ram huge.

Yeah yeah, it's for towing the same way the 8" lift and 4x4 is for off-road --users practically never use either for anything.

You should open the hood and see why

FPNI.

Yeah, little utility trucks are awesome; peak of *actual* utility.  Save the big diesels & job box & off-road rigs for the company to purchase.

Even my coupe would punt that thing like a sand wedge in a head-on.

19 MAGAcab owner checking in

What's that short story that Rush based Red Barchetta on, again?  The one where cars were forced to add padding & shit so as to be safe, and became bloated, slow pieces of crap powered by electric motors?

My 98 2500 QC 12 valve 4x4 weighs 7200 with nothing more than about 50lbs of tools in the back seat and full of fuel, with nobody in it. It's stock in every way relevant to weight (except missing maybe 50lbs in factory exhaust).



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So basically as we ask for more capacity (towing/hauling) from our trucks, somethin happens.
After the SAE J2807 towing standard went in, a uniform standard was set to base all these claims on.
IIRC the truck has to pull their rated max load, up hill, in the heat, AC on blast, on a steep grade.
If it can't do it, it doesn't make the standard for that weight.
It needs a large radiator to handle the needed cooling.

On the 2500s? That radiator is like the size of a fucking flatscreen TV. It's huge.
That's what's in the front of those HD trucks.
The capacity of the 1500 trucks is lower but nothing to sneeze at. Same concern.

So now the hood is tall. In order to see over it, higher the cab goes.
To tow better at higher weights, stability wise, it needs more wheelbase, putting the tire/wheel further from the driver also helps avoid the small overlap crash testing issues.
Now it's got good interior space too.

If ground clearance is shitty, now they can't mount a plow/and/or take it on job sites.
So up the truck goes.
Now it needs to be wide enough to not roll.
Now add on big tires/wheels, and that 400hp now isn't torching a 29in tire on a light truck and refusing to get traction, it's got to turn a big tall heavy tire, with a big truck on top.
Horsepower, managed.

Now add in EPA aero Bullshit along with pedestrian crash-testing Re: the styling.
So on goes the airdam on the volume model trucks. The rake (Good for payload) assists in aero as well as the tailgate's light crecent shape.
Chinese consumers LOVE big wide open grilles that "shout your paycheck." which IMHO could be a factor on the GM trucks. Could be.
However Trucks like the F150 and Ram 1500 avoid this, as North America is the biggest focus for them, by far, design wise. And those trucks look great.

STYLING wise, we see a large mix from guys who want to see a ton of chrome all the way to guys who dont't want to see any of it.
Bright colors to blacked out. Shorter "road going" trucks, up to Factory bro-dozers. It's a very diverse segment for sure.


I'm sure the journalist student who wrote the article reallllllllllllly took the time to learn about the SAE J2807, the capacity-driven desires of truck buyers too.
Bet she went through it as if she was going to buy a truck and trying to understand what's actually going on.

On my bumper...*sniff* in broad daylight

Now I've got partial numbness, emotional trauma, and tingles on my bosoms.

In reality, I have to deal with retarded bro-dozers who want to drag race a coupe through busy traffic about three times a day on my 20min commute.

Mustangs are the next most frequent offenders, but much less so, maybe once a week.

How am i supposed to tow my 18k pound 5th wheel toyhauler.

"The F150 loomed over my rear bumper, like Chauvin on Floyd's neck..."

Get a GreenPeace "do your part" sticker

Has the capacity/capability actually increased, though?  They're still 1/4-1/2-3/4-1 ton trucks, unless I'm missing something.

That looked much like the one we saw. Could be the same model, just this one had smaller tires and was a kind of yellow. Plus, it sat really low. I bet the rear-view mirrors were lower than my belt line, I really want one. Very nice trucks you have there!

She looks British.

Mostly the price of the fuckin things is all that's super sized...mostly.

Superstraight Petrosexual  

I actually agree with this. Wish I could get a pickup thats sized like my old 92 chevy.

I am a proud purveyor of menacing hatred

Bitches mad they get coal rolled on em at pussy power rallies.

So that's a great question,  If we "re-rated" a lot of the old trucks, the payloads and the towing would come down.
They would take a serious beating.

The halftons of today without options are now well over a ton on hauling capacity.  I'd say the ballpark of the segment is like 1500lbs on the doorsticker. Many less, some more.
2500s are way over 3/4 ton on capacity, lightly loaded.   Ballpark on the segment I'd say, 2,200lbs. Some less, some more.
1tons without options are way over 1ton on capacity.   I haven't personally shopped for one, but the game changes for single rear wheel vs dual rear wheel. There are some eye-watering payload numbers available in the 350/3500 guys.

Pig them up with creature comforts and the payloads come down.
A fully loaded Super-platinum F-250 diesel crew cab, with every option possible, will have more horsepower and torque for towing than you can shake a stick at!
And probably like 1900lbs payload, maybe 1700 even. Same with Ram. Same with Chevrolet.

Supposedly there were 2nd Gen raptors reviewed that when weighed had like 750 and 660lbs payload. I wish I kept that article.
That does not include the driver.
"People don't think adding option weights be like it is, but it do."

Reality is midsize trucks and 1/2tons are close payload wise, on the doorsticker anyway. I would MUCH rather haul with a halfton though, and a 3/ton over that.
It's the towing (and interior space, and power) where they really depart.