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But, will you know your father and grandfather. I heard preachs say we won't. And will our beloved dogs, cats, etc be there?

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Copy that. I'm gonna make a new thread every day about anilingus, let me know when you get tired of it.

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Lots of things without souls will be there.  You are stretching your own opinion a little too far.

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It'd really break my heart if this crap got posted in the religion subforum instead of GD.

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As someone who also grew up Methodist my best advice is to get out of that pit of vipers and find a Church filled with and teaching the Word.

And not for thoughts on the rapture but because of what has infiltrated and killed the Church.

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What kind of supreme being has such a weak ego that it needs a host of acolytes around to tell it what a great supreme being it is?

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OP I found the videos you posted to be extremely informative and well grounded in the Word.

Thank you very much.

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It'd really break my heart if this crap got posted in the religion subforum instead of GD.

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That’s simply inaccurate.

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You see that's the issue….I don't want to even see this BS in GD….it degrades the entire experience because it appears that these threads and the ones that post in them are part of the ARF protected class.  

So yeah, I don't want to even see this drivel pop up.  This crap should be treated exactly like the Covid shit was….immediately moved to the appropriate forum.

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You guys discussing Apophis consider this:  It's not necessary for the asteroid to hit in order to cause chaos on Earth.  It will pass close enough to be visible with the naked eye even in the daytime.  Don't you think that's going to cause a worldwide panic that makes COVID look like a practice run?  People will be in the streets predicting doom.  Governments will be overthrown.  Cities will burn.  This will give the globalists all the ammunition they need for a worldwide lockdown and the Great Reset.  Society will transform into a global totalitarian society overnight.  It will actually get to the point that people will be praying for the asteroid to hit and save us from the New World Order.  That's right:  we've got until 2029 to basically make plans to get off the grid and prepare to live without the niceties that civilization offers.

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I don't see the guy with 2 wives? Where the fuck is the guy with 2 wives? Also, that's an awful lot of kids there. What about babies that lived a few days? My brother lived for 13 days before dying. Is he going to be able to run into my parents arms or will the nanny be there?

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I don't think you'll know your people in heaven because if you did you would miss the ones that don't make it.

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You do realize there is a subforum on about 80% of every topic decussed in GD. But let's pick and choose what's censored by hiding it away in a subforum.

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Why does God need a starship?

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I have degrees in engineering and math, and I worked at NASA for 13 years, so let’s just say that I know some stuff about science.  

Please refresh yourself on Revelation 8:6.  A “great star falls from heaven”?  Really?  Sounds like at least a meteor, but from the destruction mentioned in that & the surrounding passages, I’m going to say asteroid.  A “great star” falling from heaven.  Yeah, Wormwood.  Only that would be, in my opinion, asteroid Apophis (the Greek god of chaos, and isn’t THAT interesting) which is going to strike the Earth in 2029.  Gee, doesn’t that seem awfully close to 2030?

Yes it does.

Now, NASA and other government entities say it won’t strike Earth.  It’ll be a “close miss”.  Um hmm.  Sure.  God seems to say otherwise.  Even if…somehow…it misses, asteroids drag all sorts of debris along with them, up to and including meteors.  This is expected in (trumpet blast please)…2029.  And…I’ve posted this before…while the government denies all this, even Nathan Myrvold, the founding Chief Technologist at the fledgling (at the time) Microsoft, says otherwise.

Anyone interested can google “Myrvold Neowise paper” and read what he says.  It’s highly technical, so I’ll break it down.  It IS going to strike Earth.  And things are going to get REALLY real at that time.  This would occur in 2029.  Since I’m a mathematician, I can confirm that this is the year before 2030, when our Lord and Savior (all blessings and honor and glory be unto Him) returns physically to Earth for the Battle of Armageddon.

This right here is actual, known, confirmed, physical proof of timing.

Thus, we can expect to be going home SOON.  I’m saying, this calendar year.  And, I’ll go out on a limb and guess sooner rather than later, because I think Israel will fulfill Trumpets in some way.  But I could be wrong.  Though, I’ll go further out on the limb and say that the Gog/Magog war will start THIS FALL, and no one will help Israel (which God tells us).  This last thing is confirmed because the US president, You-Know-Who, has not invited Netanyahu to the White House, nor had talks with him, as is usual.  Indeed, it was reported in the news today that Netanyahu is going to approach China as an ally.  This does not sound good at all.  Especially since we’re told that no one comes to Israel’s aid in this war.

I can foresee quite a lot of icky stuff hitting the proverbial fan, post-haste.

Do we - the elect - HAVE to be gone by then?  I don’t think so, honestly, but nevertheless think that we will be.  KEEP YOUR EYES ON GOD FIRST, Y’ALL, AND ISRAEL SECOND.  And fasten your seatbelts.  Prophetic fulfillment awaits.

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Not necessarily.  I think of it like this.  When we're in heaven, we'll know everyone.  I don't know that we're going to be in family units like we are here.  I think I'll know my wife and I'll know we were married here on earth, but I'm not sure we'll be married in heaven.  I don't like that fact but I'm looking at it from a human perspective and understanding.  

I think when we get to heaven, we're going to have a different understanding and perspective.  I think we'll remember friends and relations who are not in heaven but we'll view it from a Godly perspective rather than a human perspective.  We will realize they made their choices and they chose not to spend eternity with God. I think we will view it more as a matter of fact rather than an emotion.  But I don't know.  That's just what I think.

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They did it with the covid threads. For some reason this topic is verboten to suggest putting where the enthusiasts can better access it.

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I have degrees in engineering and math, and I worked at NASA for 13 years, so let’s just say that I know some stuff about science.  

Please refresh yourself on Revelation 8:6.  A “great star falls from heaven”?  Really?  Sounds like at least a meteor, but from the destruction mentioned in that & the surrounding passages, I’m going to say asteroid.  A “great star” falling from heaven.  Yeah, Wormwood.  Only that would be, in my opinion, asteroid Apophis (the Greek god of chaos, and isn’t THAT interesting) which is going to strike the Earth in 2029.  Gee, doesn’t that seem awfully close to 2030?

Yes it does.

Now, NASA and other government entities say it won’t strike Earth.  It’ll be a “close miss”.  Um hmm.  Sure.  God seems to say otherwise.  Even if…somehow…it misses, asteroids drag all sorts of debris along with them, up to and including meteors.  This is expected in (trumpet blast please)…2029.  And…I’ve posted this before…while the government denies all this, even Nathan Myrvold, the founding Chief Technologist at the fledgling (at the time) Microsoft, says otherwise.

Anyone interested can google “Myrvold Neowise paper” and read what he says.  It’s highly technical, so I’ll break it down.  It IS going to strike Earth.  And things are going to get REALLY real at that time.  This would occur in 2029.  Since I’m a mathematician, I can confirm that this is the year before 2030, when our Lord and Savior (all blessings and honor and glory be unto Him) returns physically to Earth for the Battle of Armageddon.

This right here is actual, known, confirmed, physical proof of timing.

Thus, we can expect to be going home SOON.  I’m saying, this calendar year.  And, I’ll go out on a limb and guess sooner rather than later, because I think Israel will fulfill Trumpets in some way.  But I could be wrong.  Though, I’ll go further out on the limb and say that the Gog/Magog war will start THIS FALL, and no one will help Israel (which God tells us).  This last thing is confirmed because the US president, You-Know-Who, has not invited Netanyahu to the White House, nor had talks with him, as is usual.  Indeed, it was reported in the news today that Netanyahu is going to approach China as an ally.  This does not sound good at all.  Especially since we’re told that no one comes to Israel’s aid in this war.

I can foresee quite a lot of icky stuff hitting the proverbial fan, post-haste.

Do we - the elect - HAVE to be gone by then?  I don’t think so, honestly, but nevertheless think that we will be.  KEEP YOUR EYES ON GOD FIRST, Y’ALL, AND ISRAEL SECOND.  And fasten your seatbelts.  Prophetic fulfillment awaits.

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“Are not two sparrows sold for a penny? Yet not one of them will fall to the ground unperceived by your Father. 30And even the hairs of your head are all counted. 31So do not be afraid; you are of more value than many sparrows. 32 ‘Everyone therefore who acknowledges me before others, I also will acknowledge before my Father in heaven; 33but whoever denies me before others, I also will deny before my Father in heaven. 34 ‘Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth; I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35 For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law; 36 and one’s foes will be members of one’s own household. 37Whoever loves father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; and whoever loves son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me; 38and whoever does not take up the cross and follow me is not worthy of me. 39Those who find their life will lose it, and those who lose their life for my sake will find it. 40 ‘Whoever welcomes you welcomes me, and whoever welcomes me welcomes the one who sent me. 41Whoever welcomes a prophet in the name of a prophet will receive a prophet’s reward; and whoever welcomes a righteous person in the name of a righteous person will receive the reward of the righteous; 42and whoever gives even a cup of cold water to one of these little ones in the name of a disciple—truly I tell you, none of these will lose their reward"

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Matthew 22:23 That same day the Sadducees, who say there is no resurrection, came to him with a question. 24 “Teacher,” they said, “Moses told us that if a man dies without having children, his brother must marry the widow and raise up offspring for him. 25 Now there were seven brothers among us. The first one married and died, and since he had no children, he left his wife to his brother. 26 The same thing happened to the second and third brother, right on down to the seventh. 27 Finally, the woman died. 28 Now then, at the resurrection, whose wife will she be of the seven, since all of them were married to her?”

29 Jesus replied, “You are in error because you do not know the Scriptures or the power of God. 30 At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven. 31 But about the resurrection of the dead—have you not read what God said to you, 32 ‘I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob’[b]? He is not the God of the dead but of the living.”

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Revelation 21:4 ‘He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death’[b] or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.”

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I interpret these to mean we will not be married in Heaven, for all of us, man and woman, will look to Christ above all others.  I fully expect my wife to be my best friend in Heaven for all eternity.  Just not married.

We will remember those we lost, but Christ will comfort us and do away with the bad memories.  I don't know how long we will remember them, but I already can't remember the names of many friends from my youth.  In the context of eternity, I doubt the memory of those I hoped to see in Heaven will haunt me.  Not for long anyway.

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you mean 2000 years? pretty sure thessolonians was written like 50 odd years after JC left town

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So “caught up with Him in the clouds” wasn’t in the Bible before the 1930’s? Sure about that?

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Why would a Christian want to be raptured and miss out on Armageddon?

My understanding of that belief is that it would mean you were zoomed up to Heaven before the Battle of Armageddon where the forces of good and evil would square off in last epic battle with the forces of good being lead by Jesus himself.   I would think any true Christian man would pray for that opportunity to go out at Jesus's side fighting evil, what an epic way to conclude your time on this earth.  To be counted among the followers of Jesus, to have the glory of fighting by his and the angels' side against the forces of the Devil would be an honor that any man would cherish.  

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First of all, heaven is described as full of beautiful things, none of which have souls.  Secondly, why would God create an eternal home for us and at the same time abolish nearly everything that we long for in this shadow existence?  The common interpretation of Heaven would suggest that Heaven is actually just a sterile place that we go when this life is over.  One may opine that this version of Heaven sounds incredibly dull and pales to the wonder and marvelous creation that God Himself made here on earth.  Honestly, why should Heaven be inferior to earth in any way at all?

In truth, the wonderful things that we have been given here on earth will pale next to the perfect and fulfilled things we will be blessed with in Heaven.

God reveals his plan for us through his Word.  He doesn't give a scientific narrative of exactly how he created the universe in Genesis any more than he is giving a biodiversity treatise about Heaven in Revelation (or any other book).  Heaven is our eternal home.  We are currently in our temporary one.  To think that God would reveal that our permanent home is inferior in any way to the temporary home would be like Him revealing that our ideas about His goodness are actually exaggerated and His actual goodness is far less.

God doesn't need us to praise him to get His jollies.  God is love and joy Himself, and the only people missing out on anything are the ones who choose to reject Him.

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Gowing up a Methodist, I was taught believing in the rapture was akin to handling snakes, talking in tongues, and marrying your cousin.