Oh man. That guy looks like he's preparing the tenders at KFC. I mean, he could be a top-drawer composites person, but it looks janky as shit.

Coast Guard says MORE underwater 'banging' noises were heard this morning in search for missing Titanic sub - but Navy doesn't know what they are - as search area expands to twice the size of Connecticut


More underwater 'banging' sounds were detected this morning in the search for the missing Titanic submersible, but the US Navy cannot yet conclude whether they are coming from the stranded vessel.










He would not confirm that they were 30 minutes apart, as had been reported, nor did he describe them as being an SOS signal, as others had claimed.

However Frederick said the sounds and the ongoing search meant there was still reason 'for hope'.

'Several flights heard noises yesterday... the P-3 heard noises today as well. We don't know what the noises are, to be frank with you... they have been described as banging noises but they are inconclusive.

'The good news is we are searching in the area where the noises were detected,' he said.

The search area has now expanded to around 14,000 square miles - twice the size of the state of Connecticut.  

The sounds that were heard are now being analyzed by a team of Navy experts.

'The noises are very complex and in the ocean, you need to be in acoustic analysis and have context. They have been described as banging noises, but they have to put the whole picture together and eliminate manmade noise sources other than the Titan.

'The most important thing is we are searching in the area of the sounds,' he said.


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Finally some good news:

Guppy Program

Narcissism.
At the end of the day, that's what will have been the cause of death for those 5 people.
He could've bought a known commercial submersible with all the ratings, testing and certifications and charged $1M per seat,
but his ego would not allow for that.

That well-known, standard Unit of Measurement: the Connecticut.

"We've searched over 2.3 Connecticuts so far, we estimate we'll be able to search another 1.1 Connecticuts by nightfall."

Part of the club is actually open to the public, the history stuff about past explorers.   That list has some serious people on it including Roy Chapman...aka the real Indiana Jones.  I'm sure $$ talks when it comes to membership though.

How many London buses is it?

Probably just the sub banging around in the current.

I know lots of people want to call these guys out, but for their sake (if not rescued - which chances seem slim) I hope it was something catastrophic and they went quick.  I was thinking, image they are alive and make contact that get acknowledged on both sides, but you run out of air and die waiting for rescue to be worked out - post contact.  To me that would be worse than just going unfound and running out of air.

Typical of developing stories (and modern reporting), the details suck.  More than the lack of communication, which I somewhat understand.  What I am confused about is, does the top side vessel have no tracking or any kind of details on the whereabouts of the sub as it takes its trip?  At least without communication, you could have some level of information.

If they found this thing floating in the water, could a helicopter grab it and fly it somewhere?  How much does it weigh?

The passive listening hits are interesting. Are these from buoys? They should have a pretty good idea of location, right? This is what ASW units do.

At least 15 lbs.

What you choose as the primary driving control is pretty critical to operations.  Choosing a $30 vs $60 part is pretty indicative of the decision making skills possessed by the leadership.

@subcomunic8r It has been decades since I was in but back then Nike tennis shoes were issued because the Russians could hear walking with boondockers well enough to pinpoint where you are in the big giant ocean. Couldn't a modern boomer or fast attack easily find those noises they are hearing?

Connecticut?

Hell, they're practically home.  /sarc

This is great. After watching why would you want to build it out of carbon fiber?

Anybody try giving Hannah Barron or Aly from Alabama a call?

Just take them out there and tell them the lost sub is a big ol’ cat lurking in the pond and they likely would have that thing over one bikini’d shoulder and back on deck, lickitly-split.

Most amazing thing out of all of this for me, is learning how a plane that is noisy as fuck can “hear” banging underwater

I bet the Adventures With Purpose guy is itching to be there, too.

And if it cost $300, he’s 10 times smarter, right?

I prefer to measure area in Wyoming's.
It's a nice quadrangle shape. Fit's neatly onto a piece of graph paper.

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Seems odd to me, admittedly a layman, that with all of the assets on scene that they cannot get a fix on where the 'banging' sounds are located.

The weight is 21,000 pounds.

That's some 50 year old white guy thinking right there.  

The plane isn’t listening to the water.  The bouys dropped from the plane do that.

That's a lot of area to search for a sub that's at best three camels long.

They drop Sonobuoys in the water, those do the hearing and communicate back to the plane.

No way in hell I would trust going in the water in a Harbor Freight class sub. What a shitshow

Do the sounds sound like whales humping or some seismic anomaly? Because it could be something else entering Red Route 1. Just wait until it reached the Grand Banks. Or maybe it sounds like Pavarotti or Paganini. Where’s Jonesy when you needed him.

'I went on Titan - it was a SUICIDE mission!' German who paid OceanGate to see Titanic wreck in 2021 says he was 'incredibly lucky' to make it after one sub 'didn't work', there were 'electrical problems' and piece of the vessel FELL OFF



Arthur Loibl (top left), 60, dove the 12,500 feet to the Atlantic ocean wreck site in August 2021, and says he was 'incredibly lucky' to survive. His story echos much that has been learned about the OceanGate tourist vessel since it vanished into the abyss on Sunday, with past reports highlighting how many components were purchased off-the-shelf. It has also been revealed to have been uncertified to dive to the necessary depths to reach the famous Titanic wreckage.  


A German adventurer who paid to see the wreck of the Titanic on the missing Titan submarine two years ago has called the voyage a 'suicide mission'.

Arthur Loibl, 60, dived down 12,500 feet to the Atlantic wreck site in August 2021 and says he was 'incredibly lucky' to survive.

His story echos much that has been learned about the OceanGate tourist vessel since it vanished on Sunday, with past reports highlighting how many components were purchased off-the-shelf. It has also been revealed to have been uncertified to dive to the necessary depths to reach the Titanic.



Speaking to German tabloid Bild, Loibl recalls the first submarine they tried didn't work and a second attempted dive had to be abandoned. He said parts fell off and the mission went into the water five hours late due to electrical problems.

This, Loibl suspects, could be the cause of the Titan's disappearance.








Speaking to German tabloid Bild, Loibl (pictured in front of the OceanGate sub) recalls that the first submarine they tried didn't work, that a second attempted dive had to be abandoned, parts fell off, and that his mission went into the water five hours late due to electrical problems



'It was a suicide mission back then!' Loibl tells Bild.

The German knows a thing or two about risk taking, too. He has previously travelled to the north and south pole, and flown over Russia in a MiG-29 fighter jet.

But out of all his adventures, 'the Titanic was the most extreme,' he says.

He paid 100,000 euros and booked the trip through an English company that organises special safaris, Bild reports.

He says the start of the expedition was bumpy.



'The first submarine didn't work, then a dive at 1,600 meters had to be abandoned. My mission was the 5th, but we also went into the water five hours late due to electrical problems,' he recounts to the publication.

Shortly before the sub was launched, Loibl says the bracket of the stabilization tube  - used to provide balance as the craft descends into the depths - fell off the vessel.

'That was reattached with zip ties. That did worry me,' he tells Bild.

As for conditions inside the vessel, the adventurer says they were challenging.



On his voyage, he was joined by French explorer Paul-Henry Nargeolet, 73, and OceanGate's CEO and pilot Stockton Rush, 61.

Both are currently on the Titan and have been missing since Sunday, along with British adventurer Hamish Harding and Pakistani nationals Shahzada Dawood and his son Suleman.

Up to five passengers can be taken on the 22-foot long Titan. There are no seats, a single toilet (with a black curtain pulled across for 'privacy'). At a depth of around 3,200 feet, sunlight can no longer penetrate the darkness of the ocean.

'You need strong nerves, you mustn't be claustrophobic and you have to be able to sit cross-legged for ten hours,' Loibl says. 'It must be hell down there. There's only 2.50 meters of space, it's four degrees, there's no chair, no toilet.'


When he did reach the Titanic, however, he described a sense of euphoria.


With Loibl inside, the Titan travelled around the wreck twice and once even touched down on its deck, he said, before making the return journey.

The German said he is closely following the news of the missing submersible and the search operation - which is rapidly running out of time.

'I feel bad, I'm nervous, I have a sinking feeling in my stomach. I was incredibly lucky back then,' he told Bild. Like many, he is hoping for a miracle.

For his next adventure, Loibl said he had hoped to fly into space with Virgin Galactic for $250,000. But after the 'drama' surrounding the missing Titan vessel, he said, 'my whole pursuit of extremes is now in question'.





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If a P3 is hearing it, it's from a sonobouy.  You'd need multiple in range of the sound and in a favorable pattern to be able to get triangulation

Why are we wasting $$$ and resources on some billionaire’s private enterprise failure?
Inquiring minds want to know.

Damn, beat by 5 min.

The guy accused of child rape?  I’m sure that woman accusing him wouldn’t mind him being at the titanic.

Too many pages to keep up, apologies if dupe
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Joe Camel approves.

That's all I heard.  

A question for those who know something about carbon fiber structures, because I don’t.

I thought (could be wrong) that carbon fiber is very strong in tension but not so good in compression.  Therefore with a pressure vessel, a carbon fiber construction would be good if you were going to put 5-6000psi inside the container.

That way the container is trying to expand, like a balloon, and carbon fibers are in tension and that’s where they are strong and the container works.

But with this sub the carbon fibers are being compressed by water forces around the outside.  If carbon fiber is weak in compression isn’t this whole design wrong?

Need a feinting couch emoji

It's it's floating it must weigh less than a duck.

Stop thinking like a 50 year old white guy.  

So about as much as midcap's car picking up some fatties from the mall?

They're already dead

The more I read about this guy the less I feel for him.  

Rush said he valued captains who were "inspirational" over experience, noting that "anybody can drive the sub," which is controlled with a $30 video game controller.

"When I started the business, one of the things you'll find, there are other sub-operators out there, but they typically have gentlemen who are ex-military submariners, and you'll see a whole bunch of 50-year-old White guys," Rush told Teledyne Marine in a 2020 Zoom interview.

"I wanted our team to be younger, to be inspirational, and I'm not going to inspire a 16-year-old to go pursue marine technology, but a 25-year-old, you know, who's a subpilot or a platform operator or one of our techs can be inspirational," Rush said. "So we've really tried to get very intelligent, motivated, younger individuals involved because we're doing things that are completely new."

Give or take some hours

Do they actually have sonar and submersibles in the area looking at this point (Wed afternoon)? They have not even located the sub yet, starting to get hard to believe that there is any hope. Even if they located the sub right now would they have time to get down to it. It would have to be an incredibly easy rescue like just cut a hung cable.