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"I wanted our team to be younger, to be inspirational, and I'm not going to inspire a 16-year-old to go pursue marine technology, but a 25-year-old, you know, who's a subpilot or a platform operator or one of our techs can be inspirational," Rush said. "So we've really tried to get very intelligent, motivated, younger individuals involved because we're doing things that are completely new."

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'I went on Titan - it was a SUICIDE mission!' German who paid OceanGate to see Titanic wreck in 2021 says he was 'incredibly lucky' to make it after one sub 'didn't work', there were 'electrical problems' and piece of the vessel FELL OFF

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Arthur Loibl (top left), 60, dove the 12,500 feet to the Atlantic ocean wreck site in August 2021, and says he was 'incredibly lucky' to survive. His story echos much that has been learned about the OceanGate tourist vessel since it vanished into the abyss on Sunday, with past reports highlighting how many components were purchased off-the-shelf. It has also been revealed to have been uncertified to dive to the necessary depths to reach the famous Titanic wreckage.  


A German adventurer who paid to see the wreck of the Titanic on the missing Titan submarine two years ago has called the voyage a 'suicide mission'.

Arthur Loibl, 60, dived down 12,500 feet to the Atlantic wreck site in August 2021 and says he was 'incredibly lucky' to survive.

His story echos much that has been learned about the OceanGate tourist vessel since it vanished on Sunday, with past reports highlighting how many components were purchased off-the-shelf. It has also been revealed to have been uncertified to dive to the necessary depths to reach the Titanic.



Speaking to German tabloid Bild, Loibl recalls the first submarine they tried didn't work and a second attempted dive had to be abandoned. He said parts fell off and the mission went into the water five hours late due to electrical problems.

This, Loibl suspects, could be the cause of the Titan's disappearance.


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Speaking to German tabloid Bild, Loibl (pictured in front of the OceanGate sub) recalls that the first submarine they tried didn't work, that a second attempted dive had to be abandoned, parts fell off, and that his mission went into the water five hours late due to electrical problems



'It was a suicide mission back then!' Loibl tells Bild.

The German knows a thing or two about risk taking, too. He has previously travelled to the north and south pole, and flown over Russia in a MiG-29 fighter jet.

But out of all his adventures, 'the Titanic was the most extreme,' he says.

He paid 100,000 euros and booked the trip through an English company that organises special safaris, Bild reports.

He says the start of the expedition was bumpy.



'The first submarine didn't work, then a dive at 1,600 meters had to be abandoned. My mission was the 5th, but we also went into the water five hours late due to electrical problems,' he recounts to the publication.

Shortly before the sub was launched, Loibl says the bracket of the stabilization tube  - used to provide balance as the craft descends into the depths - fell off the vessel.

'That was reattached with zip ties. That did worry me,' he tells Bild.

As for conditions inside the vessel, the adventurer says they were challenging.



On his voyage, he was joined by French explorer Paul-Henry Nargeolet, 73, and OceanGate's CEO and pilot Stockton Rush, 61.

Both are currently on the Titan and have been missing since Sunday, along with British adventurer Hamish Harding and Pakistani nationals Shahzada Dawood and his son Suleman.

Up to five passengers can be taken on the 22-foot long Titan. There are no seats, a single toilet (with a black curtain pulled across for 'privacy'). At a depth of around 3,200 feet, sunlight can no longer penetrate the darkness of the ocean.

'You need strong nerves, you mustn't be claustrophobic and you have to be able to sit cross-legged for ten hours,' Loibl says. 'It must be hell down there. There's only 2.50 meters of space, it's four degrees, there's no chair, no toilet.'


When he did reach the Titanic, however, he described a sense of euphoria.


With Loibl inside, the Titan travelled around the wreck twice and once even touched down on its deck, he said, before making the return journey.

The German said he is closely following the news of the missing submersible and the search operation - which is rapidly running out of time.

'I feel bad, I'm nervous, I have a sinking feeling in my stomach. I was incredibly lucky back then,' he told Bild. Like many, he is hoping for a miracle.

For his next adventure, Loibl said he had hoped to fly into space with Virgin Galactic for $250,000. But after the 'drama' surrounding the missing Titan vessel, he said, 'my whole pursuit of extremes is now in question'.


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Coast Guard says MORE underwater 'banging' noises were heard this morning in search for missing Titanic sub - but Navy doesn't know what they are - as search area expands to twice the size of Connecticut

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When he did reach the Titanic, however, he described a sense of euphoria.


With Loibl inside, the Titan travelled around the wreck twice and once even touched down on its deck, he said, before making the return journey.


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The more I read about this guy the less I feel for him.  

Rush said he valued captains who were "inspirational" over experience, noting that "anybody can drive the sub," which is controlled with a $30 video game controller.

"When I started the business, one of the things you'll find, there are other sub-operators out there, but they typically have gentlemen who are ex-military submariners, and you'll see a whole bunch of 50-year-old White guys," Rush told Teledyne Marine in a 2020 Zoom interview.

"I wanted our team to be younger, to be inspirational, and I'm not going to inspire a 16-year-old to go pursue marine technology, but a 25-year-old, you know, who's a subpilot or a platform operator or one of our techs can be inspirational," Rush said. "So we've really tried to get very intelligent, motivated, younger individuals involved because we're doing things that are completely new."

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Do they actually have sonar and submersibles in the area looking at this point (Wed afternoon)? They have not even located the sub yet, starting to get hard to believe that there is any hope. Even if they located the sub right now would they have time to get down to it. It would have to be an incredibly easy rescue like just cut a hung cable.

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Most amazing thing out of all of this for me, is learning how a plane that is noisy as fuck can “hear” banging underwater

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Initially..Did the banging noise move ? Or continue  from the same location ?
If the sub is at the wreck site or within 1K feet then they can see it on sonar and would have found it on sonar within the first few passes. They would already have confirmed they are on the wreck site by now.

The fact ships are banging away with sonar miles away suggests they already know the sub is not at the wreck site.

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The more I read about this guy the less I feel for him.  

Rush said he valued captains who were "inspirational" over experience, noting that "anybody can drive the sub," which is controlled with a $30 video game controller.

"When I started the business, one of the things you'll find, there are other sub-operators out there, but they typically have gentlemen who are ex-military submariners, and you'll see a whole bunch of 50-year-old White guys," Rush told Teledyne Marine in a 2020 Zoom interview.

"I wanted our team to be younger, to be inspirational, and I'm not going to inspire a 16-year-old to go pursue marine technology, but a 25-year-old, you know, who's a subpilot or a platform operator or one of our techs can be inspirational," Rush said. "So we've really tried to get very intelligent, motivated, younger individuals involved because we're doing things that are completely new."

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It's not the dying part that's terrible, it's the days waiting for it to happen.

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Why are we wasting $$$ and resources on some billionaire’s private enterprise failure?
Inquiring minds want to know.

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I hope the rescuers have a plan to breech the hull when , if they find it on the surface.

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I thought touching it was a no no?

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I may have some experience with engineering, composites and pressure.

You know what i wouldn't make a salt-water submersible out out?   Carbon-fiber...

SEA WATER EFFECTS ON ULTIMATE TENSILE AND FRACTURE STRENGTH OF CARBON FIBERS WITH NANO- TENSILE TESTINGSEA WATER EFFECTS ON ULTIMATE TENSILE AND
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That dude naming this PoS "The Titan" is about as bad as every girl who's parents named them after an expensive car.
Have you ever met a Porche or Mercedes that didn't look like she'd fit into any Jerry Springer episode?

Dude should have named this sub The Guppie.

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That dude naming this PoS "The Titan" is about as bad as every girl who's parents named them after an expensive car.
Have you ever met a Porche or Mercedes that didn't look like she'd fit into any Jerry Springer episode?

Dude should have named this sub The Guppie.

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"... because we're doing things that are completely new."

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Page 50 for the 50yr old white guys.

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@subcomunic8r It has been decades since I was in but back then Nike tennis shoes were issued because the Russians could hear walking with boondockers well enough to pinpoint where you are in the big giant ocean. Couldn't a modern boomer or fast attack easily find those noises they are hearing?

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Are there any Orcas in the area? I heard they were ass holes.


Also if trapped on the bottom running out of air how many earth shattering bowel movements has the “chef” had.

I’d prey for a hull failure and instant death over stale air and breakfast burrito farts.

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I think if there was a hull failure it would be in the weakest spot (port hole window) which was only rated for something like 4500 ft. If it failed they would have all been sucked through that port hole in a millisecond. Bodies would never be found.

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If the sub is floating on the surface is weighs in excess of 23k pounds, so the only helicopters that could even maybe lift it would be a ch53 of a ch47.  Getting a strap around the floating sub is feasible, but also risky(if it is dropped the people could easily be killed when it hits the water).  In other words, if they do find it floating they will have to wait for a surface ship to catch up to it.  

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I think that's a bit deeper than a dolphin can dive.

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I think if there was a hull failure it would be in the weakest spot (port hole window) which was only rated for something like 4500 ft. If it failed they would have all been sucked through that port hole in a millisecond. Bodies would never be found.

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After watching the Sub Brief channel on YT last night, I'm so happy to see that no 50 white guys were involved, they will always have that to fall back on.  Well, that is, other than the CEO....really glad to see that he is the only smart guy allowed in the room.  He should have named the sub "Narcissist" and at least he would have gotten something right.  Shame he had to kill....wait for it, all of those other white dudes... while pursuing his passion.   But thats what narcissists do.

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You've got it backwards.  They would be fuel in a diesel cylinder and no exhaust valve.  Crushed instantly and ignited for a brief moment.  Not blown out.