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Posted: 6/21/2023 6:10:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: that's CO, not CO2 Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: CO2 poisoning is not "falling asleep." Correct, CO2 poisoning is suffocating because you can't exhale/off-gas. We can survive ok, down to about 14% O2 (for a little while) but if CO2 gets too high, we can't exchange gasses. At 40% CO2, you would suffocate even if the O2 concentration was a normal 21%. Do the guys that kill themselves with a running car/garden hose get passed out drunk ? that's CO, not CO2 Dumb mistake. |
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Posted: 6/21/2023 6:10:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What if the portal is below the water line? Do I have to think of everything around her..geez guys, cmon  
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Posted: 6/21/2023 6:11:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Exactly. They STILL have to get the hatch open so the crew can get oxygen. Imagine being a rescuer watching the crew through the glass as they die...... |
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Posted: 6/21/2023 6:12:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Here is a Triton submersible good for 13,000 feet. Carries two people https://tritonsubs.com/wp-content/uploads/GullWing_Render_High_HQ.jpg Here is one good to 36,000 feet: https://tritonsubs.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/t36000-2-Surface.jpg Damn, that 2 seater is cool as hell. Am I crazy for saying I'd get in one tomorrow? |
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Posted: 6/21/2023 6:12:35 PM EDT
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The more I learn about the materials and methods, the more it reminds me of......  'Flat earther' dies in rocket crash |
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Posted: 6/21/2023 6:13:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The props will be cheap. A propane tank, some carpet, a couple of old computer monitors and a PS3 controller and you are good for the most of the movie. Probably cost more than the real sub. |
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Posted: 6/21/2023 6:13:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOzark Trail brand seat cushion. That guy spared no expense. Only the best shit Walmart offers for his |
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Posted: 6/21/2023 6:14:10 PM EDT
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Today a lefty at work was complaining about all the resources wasted trying to rescue "five rich men". Was trying to draw a comparison to the migrant ship sinking on the way to Greece, as if somehow a choice was made between the two. Are these the talking points, or is this lefty crazier than the others?
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Posted: 6/21/2023 6:15:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They won't have to wait much beyond tomorrow morning to declare them dead - even if they were floating on the surface, they'd be trapped in the sub and suffocate. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I hope the rescuers have a plan to breech the hull when , if they find it on the surface. Exactly. They STILL have to get the hatch open so the crew can get oxygen. Imagine being a rescuer watching the crew through the glass as they die...... They won't have to wait much beyond tomorrow morning to declare them dead - even if they were floating on the surface, they'd be trapped in the sub and suffocate. 
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Posted: 6/21/2023 6:17:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I discussed this with my wife. A lot of the USCG/USN assets being used are only out the cost of fuel; they were manned anyway. I'm about as anti-government-spending as they come but I don't mind this particular instance. Exactly. As long as it's not keeping them from an actual national security related mission it's seems like pretty good training. Trying to find a mini sub at 10x the depths they normally patrol sounds like playing on hard mode. |
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Posted: 6/21/2023 6:17:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Probably cost more than the real sub. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The props will be cheap. A propane tank, some carpet, a couple of old computer monitors and a PS3 controller and you are good for the most of the movie. Probably cost more than the real sub. those 4 upside down 500 gallon propane tanks for the float aint cheap, buddy |
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Posted: 6/21/2023 6:18:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Today a lefty at work was complaining about all the resources wasted trying to rescue "five rich men". Was trying to draw a comparison to the migrant ship sinking on the way to Greece, as if somehow a choice was made between the two. Are these the talking points, or is this lefty crazier than the others? If it was 4 arfcommers that paid $87 to do this, the only resources would be site resources wasted as a thread like this of everyone making fun of our dumbasses for doing it
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Posted: 6/21/2023 6:19:36 PM EDT
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Are there any reports of what the rest of the subs surface crew was and is doing? Who they are? Were there any experienced ppl on the ship itself? Or was the only one with an ounce of " knowledge" the CEO?
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Posted: 6/21/2023 6:20:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sonobuoys are not recoverable… they can be pretty incredible to watch. Depending on the variety there are some which unfold like a really cool origami from the deployment tube into a massive array of sensors. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: How many sonobuoys have been dropped? Are they recoverable? Sonobuoys are not recoverable… they can be pretty incredible to watch. Depending on the variety there are some which unfold like a really cool origami from the deployment tube into a massive array of sensors. Pretty cool ??  P3 Sonobuoy Deployment |
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Posted: 6/21/2023 6:20:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What if the portal is below the water line? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: 7" plexiglass Cordless drill, 8" bit, done. What if the portal is below the water line? Drill through the CF, just as easy. |
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Posted: 6/21/2023 6:21:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Your brain would be crushed before it could interpret any visual signals. Should be a lights out situation with the nearly instantaneous compression acting on every surface. Plus the inrush forces would cause a huge pressure spike one all the gasses were compressed. I can't math that one out but it is way over that constant 6000psi. If I did my math correctly, the structural collapse would be at a velocity of around 19,000 mph or ~8500 meters per second or about the speed of det cord going off all around you and compressing you and everything in the space into a little ball. Just the pressure wave alone would obliterate you and the compression of the air would then instantly oxidize the atomized bits in the fractions of the microsecond before the water dispersed your debris field. That makes me wonder if you could use ocean pressure implosion to detonate a nuke instead of explosives? |
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Posted: 6/21/2023 6:22:17 PM EDT
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Have they tried calling tech support?
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Posted: 6/21/2023 6:23:00 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/21/2023 6:23:07 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/21/2023 6:23:13 PM EDT
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Losing sunlight.
Titanic got 5 more. We don't need to lose more on a recovery mission. I vote time to start pulling our horns back in. Getting to the point if they located it now, probably still couldn't save crew given the many constraints already listed. |
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Posted: 6/21/2023 6:23:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So - you want me to go on a sub that uses an Xbox controller? Not just an xbox controller, the crappy non first party one that was relegated to little brother usage lol. |
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Posted: 6/21/2023 6:24:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryScary, because it means death for a sub. Once they hear it they come back around and air drop a torpedo. |
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Posted: 6/21/2023 6:24:45 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/21/2023 6:26:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Losing sunlight. Titanic got 5 more. We don't need to lose more on a recovery mission. I vote time to start pulling our horns back in. Getting to the point if they located it now, probably still couldn't save crew given the many constraints already listed. Why would we lose more? The pros use remote submersibles |
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Posted: 6/21/2023 6:27:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I was just looking at those. The Challenger Deep model cost $48 million in 2018 so the Titanic version should be cheaper. If I was a billionaire and wanted to see Titanic why not just find someone who has one and ride down with them, paying for the cost of the surface ship and everything else? No, instead go with the carbon fiber knock off Xbox controller woke new submarine company. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Here is a Triton submersible good for 13,000 feet. Carries two people https://tritonsubs.com/wp-content/uploads/GullWing_Render_High_HQ.jpg Here is one good to 36,000 feet: https://tritonsubs.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/t36000-2-Surface.jpg I was just looking at those. The Challenger Deep model cost $48 million in 2018 so the Titanic version should be cheaper. If I was a billionaire and wanted to see Titanic why not just find someone who has one and ride down with them, paying for the cost of the surface ship and everything else? No, instead go with the carbon fiber knock off Xbox controller woke new submarine company. Yeah those Tritons look legit. Would do my homework but I'd probably be willing to get into one of those (NOT the 36k foot one though )
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Posted: 6/21/2023 6:28:26 PM EDT
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They said tomorrow they run out of oxygen.
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Posted: 6/21/2023 6:28:44 PM EDT
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GM Harris of RMS Titanic, Inc just said he doesn't have much hope in finding the Titan. He said those sounds could be coming from all kinds of sources made by ships crossing the Atlantic, including anchors banging on hulls.
Sound travels far through water. |
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Posted: 6/21/2023 6:28:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Today a lefty at work was complaining about all the resources wasted trying to rescue "five rich men". Was trying to draw a comparison to the migrant ship sinking on the way to Greece, as if somehow a choice was made between the two. Are these the talking points, or is this lefty crazier than the others? That’s because CNN ran an opinion piece saying EXACTLY that. It’s probably still up on their site |
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Posted: 6/21/2023 6:29:50 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/21/2023 6:29:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Exactly. As long as it's not keeping them from an actual national security related mission it's seems like pretty good training. Trying to find a mini sub at 10x the depths they normally patrol sounds like playing on hard mode. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I discussed this with my wife. A lot of the USCG/USN assets being used are only out the cost of fuel; they were manned anyway. I'm about as anti-government-spending as they come but I don't mind this particular instance. Exactly. As long as it's not keeping them from an actual national security related mission it's seems like pretty good training. Trying to find a mini sub at 10x the depths they normally patrol sounds like playing on hard mode. I normally bitch about spending but I agree, excellent real world scenario training. Many lessons learned will come from this for those orgs. |
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Posted: 6/21/2023 6:29:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: #2 looks like the surgeon general tranny from PA. 3,4, and 5 look passable. As a PA resident, I agree 
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Posted: 6/21/2023 6:30:34 PM EDT
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This thread is hard to keep up with
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Posted: 6/21/2023 6:31:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOk, this wins the internet today
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Posted: 6/21/2023 6:33:02 PM EDT
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'Your stepdad is lost at sea!' California man whose billionaire stepfather is on missing sub asks OnlyFans model to SIT on him 30 minutes after pleading for prayers, as he triggers war of words with Cardi B over Blink-182 concert.
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Posted: 6/21/2023 6:33:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This thread is hard to keep up with The flight MH370 thread was impossible. |
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Posted: 6/21/2023 6:33:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I watched some of the construction of the hull and end caps and while it's neat engineering I wouldn't get on that thing for $1B. The chances of them not being dead is so small it's not even worth calculating. Having money doesn't make someone smart. It's too bad that guy had to get his son killed too. Your post pretty much sums it all up! |
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Posted: 6/21/2023 6:34:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This thread is hard to keep up with It's all just water bubbler office chat at this point. |
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Posted: 6/21/2023 6:34:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They won't have to wait much beyond tomorrow morning to declare them dead - even if they were floating on the surface, they'd be trapped in the sub and suffocate. If only one was alive that person could last a couple weeks. |
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Posted: 6/21/2023 6:35:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah those Tritons look legit. Would do my homework but I'd probably be willing to get into one of those (NOT the 36k foot one though )Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Here is a Triton submersible good for 13,000 feet. Carries two people https://tritonsubs.com/wp-content/uploads/GullWing_Render_High_HQ.jpg Here is one good to 36,000 feet: https://tritonsubs.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/t36000-2-Surface.jpg I was just looking at those. The Challenger Deep model cost $48 million in 2018 so the Titanic version should be cheaper. If I was a billionaire and wanted to see Titanic why not just find someone who has one and ride down with them, paying for the cost of the surface ship and everything else? No, instead go with the carbon fiber knock off Xbox controller woke new submarine company. Yeah those Tritons look legit. Would do my homework but I'd probably be willing to get into one of those (NOT the 36k foot one though )I want one to cruise around the lake. |
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Posted: 6/21/2023 6:35:07 PM EDT
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Those 5 guys onboard probably paid more into taxes than the guys crying about the search expenses.
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Posted: 6/21/2023 6:36:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Are there any reports of what the rest of the subs surface crew was and is doing? Who they are? Were there any experienced ppl on the ship itself? Or was the only one with an ounce of " knowledge" the CEO? There are five women from that company who are probably in charge of all operations on site. |
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Posted: 6/21/2023 6:36:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Those 5 guys onboard probably paid more into taxes than the guys crying about the search expenses. Step #1 to getting rich is to not pay taxes. Not that it matters |
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Posted: 6/21/2023 6:36:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Your post pretty much sums it all up! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I watched some of the construction of the hull and end caps and while it's neat engineering I wouldn't get on that thing for $1B. The chances of them not being dead is so small it's not even worth calculating. Having money doesn't make someone smart. It's too bad that guy had to get his son killed too. Your post pretty much sums it all up! After watching that video there’s no way anyone make it out alive , unfortunately. |
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Posted: 6/21/2023 6:37:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If only one was alive that person could last a couple weeks. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: They won't have to wait much beyond tomorrow morning to declare them dead - even if they were floating on the surface, they'd be trapped in the sub and suffocate. If only one was alive that person could last a couple weeks. Not without water. |
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Posted: 6/21/2023 6:37:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There's really been zero meaningful developments in the past 48 hours. It's all just water bubbler office chat at this point. But the memes have been solid!! (Unlike the Titan view port. Probably) |
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Posted: 6/21/2023 6:37:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They said tomorrow they run out of oxygen. Brings to mind a space flic I saw where the crew was in trouble and limited oxygen till someone figured out that fewer people meant more oxygen for him. |
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Posted: 6/21/2023 6:37:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Those 5 guys onboard probably paid more into taxes than the guys crying about the search expenses. I wonder how much that search will cost $150M? More or less? |
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Posted: 6/21/2023 6:38:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Postedj By Anastasios: Not without water. Quote HistoryOriginally Postedj By Anastasios: Quoted: Quoted: They won't have to wait much beyond tomorrow morning to declare them dead - even if they were floating on the surface, they'd be trapped in the sub and suffocate. If only one was alive that person could last a couple weeks. Not without water. Or power for the CO2 scrubbers |
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Posted: 6/21/2023 6:39:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not without water. In a video i think they said it had emergency rations. I can't imagine they didn't toss in an extra few bottles of water |
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Posted: 6/21/2023 6:40:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In a video i think they said it had emergency rations. I can't imagine they didn't toss in an extra few bottles of water Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Not without water. In a video i think they said it had emergency rations. I can't imagine they didn't toss in an extra few bottles of water Pssshh, they're surrounded by water, they'll be fine |
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