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Posted: 6/21/2023 5:40:20 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Brings to mind a space flic I saw where the crew was in trouble and limited oxygen till someone figured out that fewer people meant more oxygen for him. I think it was twilight zone or some other 60s series a number of executives for a company and the military got trapped underground in an office and were running out of air. They drew straws to see who would kill themself first to save oxygen cause they had it figured out. They rigged the drawing. I wish I could remember the name of the show. Looked it up, Kraft Suspense Theater. Leviathan five. Kraft Suspense Theaetre Leviathan Five |
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Posted: 6/21/2023 5:40:54 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Pssshh, they're surrounded by water, they'll be fine Salt water too, very healthy. It's basically organic Gatorade! |
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Posted: 6/21/2023 5:41:02 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: But it will crackle and give you a warning  Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: 7" inch thick of plexiglass rated for 4500 ft pushing in (flexing) 3/4" of an inch at 12,500 ft. I would have said "I'm out!" But it will crackle and give you a warning |
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Posted: 6/21/2023 5:41:23 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I want one to cruise around the lake. |
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Posted: 6/21/2023 5:41:40 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Salt water too, very healthy. It's basically organic Gatorade! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Pssshh, they're surrounded by water, they'll be fine Salt water too, very healthy. It's basically organic Gatorade! Soooooo many electrolytes |
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Posted: 6/21/2023 5:42:57 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Soooooo many electrolytes It's got what dying submariners crave! |
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Posted: 6/21/2023 5:43:12 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I was just looking at those. The Challenger Deep model cost $48 million in 2018 so the Titanic version should be cheaper. If I was a billionaire and wanted to see Titanic why not just find someone who has one and ride down with them, paying for the cost of the surface ship and everything else? No, instead go with the carbon fiber knock off Xbox controller woke new submarine company. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Here is a Triton submersible good for 13,000 feet. Carries two people https://tritonsubs.com/wp-content/uploads/GullWing_Render_High_HQ.jpg Here is one good to 36,000 feet: https://tritonsubs.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/t36000-2-Surface.jpg I was just looking at those. The Challenger Deep model cost $48 million in 2018 so the Titanic version should be cheaper. If I was a billionaire and wanted to see Titanic why not just find someone who has one and ride down with them, paying for the cost of the surface ship and everything else? No, instead go with the carbon fiber knock off Xbox controller woke new submarine company. |
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Posted: 6/21/2023 5:43:26 PM EST
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Part 3
 Regresé al Titanic | Alan x el mundo Parte 3/4 Part 4 The Dive  Baje´ a los restos del Titanic 4K | Parte 4/4 |
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Posted: 6/21/2023 5:44:04 PM EST
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Posted: 6/21/2023 5:46:15 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Are there any reports of what the rest of the subs surface crew was and is doing? Who they are? Were there any experienced ppl on the ship itself? Or was the only one with an ounce of " knowledge" the CEO? Probably posting videos on tic-tok. |
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Posted: 6/21/2023 5:52:45 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How many sonobuoys have been dropped? Are they recoverable? Enough so that a man could walk from Greenland to Iceland to Scotland without getting his feet wet. |
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Posted: 6/21/2023 5:54:18 PM EST
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 Missing Titanic submarine: Five things that may have gone wrong |
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Posted: 6/21/2023 5:54:59 PM EST
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I bet those morons were banging on the carbon fiber and that shit cracked and imploded in a fraction of a second.
Calm begets calm. Someone on that vessel killed everyone. |
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Posted: 6/21/2023 5:55:22 PM EST
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Posted: 6/21/2023 5:56:05 PM EST
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Posted: 6/21/2023 5:59:03 PM EST
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So real question. As far as air supply goes, you can scrub CO2, and you can add O2 from tanks, correct?
How do you avoid internal pressure going up everytime more O2 from tanks is added? I'm guessing there are ZERO hull penetrations, and no way you could vent excess pressure anyway, unless you had a Milwaukee M18 pocket compressor good to 7000 psi. |
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Posted: 6/21/2023 5:59:04 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I bet those morons were banging on the carbon fiber and that shit cracked and imploded in a fraction of a second. Calm begets calm. Someone on that vessel killed everyone. Unless there was an undetected stress fracture in the outer hull that they didn't know about. Or something. |
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Posted: 6/21/2023 5:59:13 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I bet those morons were banging on the carbon fiber and that shit cracked and imploded in a fraction of a second. Calm begets calm. Someone on that vessel killed everyone. The CEO... |
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Posted: 6/21/2023 6:00:14 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It also said the penis was invaginated or shoved back into the body. some people drop mad cash for that procedure. |
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Posted: 6/21/2023 6:03:39 PM EST
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I don't know if I've missed it, but did this mini sub have not have a way to transmit an emergency ping for an extentended period of time? How is this thing "missing"? They didn't install a redundant pinging device of some type for emergencies on this thing?
I know nothing about subs or underwater stuff, but this whole thing appears to be ridiculous. |
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Posted: 6/21/2023 6:04:43 PM EST
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Posted: 6/21/2023 6:05:19 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Unless there was an undetected stress fracture in the outer hull that they didn't know about. Or something. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I bet those morons were banging on the carbon fiber and that shit cracked and imploded in a fraction of a second. Calm begets calm. Someone on that vessel killed everyone. Unless there was an undetected stress fracture in the outer hull that they didn't know about. Or something. @SAE why not just create your own stress points in the carbon fiber wound tube by running some self tapping stainless fasteners in it to hold the Amazon basics RAM mount knock off monitor stand. see attached. I don't think there was an outer hull.  |
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Posted: 6/21/2023 6:05:45 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The CEO... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I bet those morons were banging on the carbon fiber and that shit cracked and imploded in a fraction of a second. Calm begets calm. Someone on that vessel killed everyone. The CEO... While I do agree whatever is left of his estate should pay big time, in his defense I believe the vessel made that trip almost 40 times. |
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Posted: 6/21/2023 6:06:33 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm guessing there are ZERO hull penetrations, and no way you could vent excess pressure anyway, unless you had a Milwaukee M18 pocket compressor good to 7000 psi. There's at least one hull penetration. The CEO described the manual backup for the ballast release was a hydraulic hand pump that could release the ballast. To me, that thing has either imploded, or they had a power failure and didn't release the ballast in time before they hit the bottom and got stuck in the mud. |
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Posted: 6/21/2023 6:07:10 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How many sonobuoys have been dropped? Are they recoverable? Tons. They are never used otherwise. Ever. They stay sealed up and everyone just hopes they work, and that crews will know how to use them in the event war breaks out. |
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Posted: 6/21/2023 6:07:14 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well that had to feel odd. autopsy results are in ma,am your husband fucked himself and has new pronouns |
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Posted: 6/21/2023 6:07:54 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @SAE not just create your own stress points in the carbon fiber wound tube by running some self tapping stainless fastened in it to hold the monitor see attached. I don't think there was an outer hull. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/162868/IMG_7044-2859606.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I bet those morons were banging on the carbon fiber and that shit cracked and imploded in a fraction of a second. Calm begets calm. Someone on that vessel killed everyone. Unless there was an undetected stress fracture in the outer hull that they didn't know about. Or something. @SAE not just create your own stress points in the carbon fiber wound tube by running some self tapping stainless fastened in it to hold the monitor see attached. I don't think there was an outer hull. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/162868/IMG_7044-2859606.jpg I wonder how they secured the shitter to the front end. |
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Posted: 6/21/2023 6:08:12 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I discussed this with my wife. A lot of the USCG/USN assets being used are only out the cost of fuel; they were manned anyway. I'm about as anti-government-spending as they come but I don't mind this particular instance. Same. Even the fuel shouldn't be counted, they'd be flying/sailing anyways. |
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Posted: 6/21/2023 6:08:28 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @SAE not just create your own stress points in the carbon fiber wound tube by running some self tapping stainless fastened in it to hold the monitor see attached. I don't think there was an outer hull. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/162868/IMG_7044-2859606.jpg Holy shit. |
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Posted: 6/21/2023 6:08:43 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I thought touching it was a no no? Attempting to touch down on the wreckage??? WTF I can imagine Darwin watching "I can't believe what I'm seeing!" |
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Posted: 6/21/2023 6:08:43 PM EST
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Posted: 6/21/2023 6:10:48 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't know if I've missed it, but did this mini sub have not have a way to transmit an emergency ping for an extentended period of time? How is this thing "missing"? They didn't install a redundant pinging device of some type for emergencies on this thing? I know nothing about subs or underwater stuff, but this whole thing appears to be ridiculous. Maybe it was good for one ping only. |
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Posted: 6/21/2023 6:10:54 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @SAE why not just create your own stress points in the carbon fiber wound tube by running some self tapping stainless fasteners in it to hold the Amazon basics RAM mount knock off monitor stand. see attached. I don't think there was an outer hull. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/162868/IMG_7044-2859606.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I bet those morons were banging on the carbon fiber and that shit cracked and imploded in a fraction of a second. Calm begets calm. Someone on that vessel killed everyone. Unless there was an undetected stress fracture in the outer hull that they didn't know about. Or something. @SAE why not just create your own stress points in the carbon fiber wound tube by running some self tapping stainless fasteners in it to hold the Amazon basics RAM mount knock off monitor stand. see attached. I don't think there was an outer hull. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/162868/IMG_7044-2859606.jpg I thought they mentioned some kind of inner hull to control condensation. |
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Posted: 6/21/2023 6:12:28 PM EST
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Quote HistoryI doubt they got snagged on the wreck given they need guidance from their Mothership to even find it and they lost communication before they got to that depth. The other scenarios seem reasonable. My money is on catastrophic structural failure. If that's the case, I doubt they'll find it. |
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Posted: 6/21/2023 6:12:33 PM EST
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: @SAE why not just create your own stress points in the carbon fiber wound tube by running some self tapping stainless fasteners in it to hold the Amazon basics RAM mount knock off monitor stand. see attached. I don't think there was an outer hull. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/162868/IMG_7044-2859606.jpg nvmd |
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Posted: 6/21/2023 6:14:05 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I thought they mentioned some kind of inner hull to control condensation. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I bet those morons were banging on the carbon fiber and that shit cracked and imploded in a fraction of a second. Calm begets calm. Someone on that vessel killed everyone. Unless there was an undetected stress fracture in the outer hull that they didn't know about. Or something. @SAE why not just create your own stress points in the carbon fiber wound tube by running some self tapping stainless fasteners in it to hold the Amazon basics RAM mount knock off monitor stand. see attached. I don't think there was an outer hull. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/162868/IMG_7044-2859606.jpg I thought they mentioned some kind of inner hull to control condensation. |
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Posted: 6/21/2023 6:14:06 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @SAE why not just create your own stress points in the carbon fiber wound tube by running some self tapping stainless fasteners in it to hold the Amazon basics RAM mount knock off monitor stand. see attached. I don't think there was an outer hull. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/162868/IMG_7044-2859606.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I bet those morons were banging on the carbon fiber and that shit cracked and imploded in a fraction of a second. Calm begets calm. Someone on that vessel killed everyone. Unless there was an undetected stress fracture in the outer hull that they didn't know about. Or something. @SAE why not just create your own stress points in the carbon fiber wound tube by running some self tapping stainless fasteners in it to hold the Amazon basics RAM mount knock off monitor stand. see attached. I don't think there was an outer hull. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/162868/IMG_7044-2859606.jpg That's attached to a layer of insulation, IIRC. These guys did some hokey shit, there's no way to screwed the fucking monitors into the hull though. |
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Posted: 6/21/2023 6:14:45 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @SAE why not just create your own stress points in the carbon fiber wound tube by running some self tapping stainless fasteners in it to hold the Amazon basics RAM mount knock off monitor stand. see attached. I don't think there was an outer hull. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/162868/IMG_7044-2859606.jpg Wow! Im not an engineer but I would never put screws into a pressure hull. I would think that bonding that mount would have been the right way. |
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Posted: 6/21/2023 6:16:02 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: While I do agree whatever is left of his estate should pay big time, in his defense I believe the vessel made that trip almost 40 times. No way. It dove to the titanic less than 5 times. I may have made a total of 40 fives including shallower one, but no way in hell it made that many dives that far down |
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Posted: 6/21/2023 6:19:39 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Maybe it was good for one ping only. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I don't know if I've missed it, but did this mini sub have not have a way to transmit an emergency ping for an extentended period of time? How is this thing "missing"? They didn't install a redundant pinging device of some type for emergencies on this thing? I know nothing about subs or underwater stuff, but this whole thing appears to be ridiculous. Maybe it was good for one ping only.  "One Ping Only" |
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Posted: 6/21/2023 6:20:12 PM EST
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: @SAE why not just create your own stress points in the carbon fiber wound tube by running some self tapping stainless fasteners in it to hold the Amazon basics RAM mount knock off monitor stand. see attached. I don't think there was an outer hull. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/162868/IMG_7044-2859606.jpg Holy shit! |
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Posted: 6/21/2023 6:20:21 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: How many sonobuoys have been dropped? Are they recoverable? Sonobuoys are not recoverable… they can be pretty incredible to watch. Depending on the variety there are some which unfold like a really cool origami from the deployment tube into a massive array of sensors. Pretty cool ??  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eidMDdMK38sThat’s a good video of the process… I didn’t think there were vids of it out there but apparently there are. |
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Posted: 6/21/2023 6:20:40 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Tons. They are never used otherwise. Ever. They stay sealed up and everyone just hopes they work, and that crews will know how to use them in the event war breaks out. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: How many sonobuoys have been dropped? Are they recoverable? Tons. They are never used otherwise. Ever. They stay sealed up and everyone just hopes they work, and that crews will know how to use them in the event war breaks out. Not receoverable. They sink once they reach end of battery life. Used tons of these chasing russians in the Atlantic and Med years ago. |
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Posted: 6/21/2023 6:21:20 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You are correct. I think I am mistaken. I am shocked they spent the cash on what appears to be another carbon fiber wound cylinder. Also how do you access the wiring and internal structure for inspection? There's a pic that shows an access door in the rear behind the main monitor with a guy in there working on something. The pic was in one of the videos, but this thread is moving too fast and I'm not sure which video showed it. It would seem that would be inadequate to access everything. |
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Posted: 6/21/2023 6:22:10 PM EST
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Quote HistoryWas that nut coal at about the 1:00 mark? |
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Posted: 6/21/2023 6:22:10 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No way. It dove to the titanic less than 5 times. I may have made a total of 40 fives including shallower one, but no way in hell it made that many dives that far down |
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Posted: 6/21/2023 6:23:06 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No way. It dove to the titanic less than 5 times. I may have made a total of 40 fives including shallower one, but no way in hell it made that many dives that far down Yeah I haven't gotten a fixed idea on the number of times either. But this is Expedition 5, iirc. And assuming like 12-15 guests per expedition, that means about 5 dives per expedition minimum. Plus some extras along the way, perhaps. I don't think it's only been down like 5 times, but I could be wrong. |
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Posted: 6/21/2023 6:24:31 PM EST
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Update on pings and progress?
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Posted: 6/21/2023 6:25:09 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There's a pic that shows an access door in the rear behind the main monitor with a guy in there working on something. The pic was in one of the videos, but this thread is moving too fast and I'm not sure which video showed it. It would seem that would be inadequate to access everything. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: You are correct. I think I am mistaken. I am shocked they spent the cash on what appears to be another carbon fiber wound cylinder. Also how do you access the wiring and internal structure for inspection? There's a pic that shows an access door in the rear behind the main monitor with a guy in there working on something. The pic was in one of the videos, but this thread is moving too fast and I'm not sure which video showed it. It would seem that would be inadequate to access everything. I can't find the other one, but you can see the handle to open the door here under his left arm: 
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Posted: 6/21/2023 6:27:43 PM EST
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: @SAE why not just create your own stress points in the carbon fiber wound tube by running some self tapping stainless fasteners in it to hold the Amazon basics RAM mount knock off monitor stand. see attached. I don't think there was an outer hull. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/162868/IMG_7044-2859606.jpg  Attached File |
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