Its not an official  catastrophic event till Juan Brown has spoken.

Dr Molé said: 'The pressure hull is the chamber where the occupants reside. It sounds as though they had reached the bottom when the pressure vessel imploded, and usually, when it gives way, it gives way all at once.

'It sounds like it was the carbon fiber cylinder that gave way and resulted in the implosion.'

How the pressure chamber was breached remains unclear. But such an implosion could be due to a leak, power failure, or small fire from an electrical short circuit.

What would have resulted would have been a violent and instantaneous implosion as the high pressure water outside flooded in, wrenching away the rear cover, landing frame, and ripping apart the sub’s hull, crushing those inside.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-12224667/Exactly-happened-Titanic-fives-final-moments-revealed-former-Navy-doctor.html

By Wednesday morning, whatever was left of the crew had already been consumed by the local sea life.

They're dead Jim.

Wow. Those were damning interviews.

While I understand not wanting to divulge the sensor, I don't understand the delay in reporting. It's not like Titan was on a mission to blow up the Nordstream II pipeline. Between the navy and Cameron's revelation that Titan had dropped ballast and was returning to the surface, it's pretty clear on Sunday people knew this was a recovery operation, not a rescue operation. Yet we spun everything up as if it was a rescue. No one wanted to make that call.

There was no SONAR in the 1st WW.

...the teens dad was Pakistani,  what does that have to do with hating America?

No idea who that guy is, but he is speculating about bolts that were threaded into the carbon fiber…which is not at all how it was built.  

The CF hull and titanium domes were basically glued together with some kind of super adhesive.

He's ignorant on this topic

Perhaps they wanted to make 100% sure, or they weren't supposed to say anything but they did.

Wouldn't the domes press against the hull underwater, effectively self sealing making the adhesive only relevant at low pressure near the surface?  I doubt the glue is structurally relevant at the depth at which the beer can failed.

Saw the video on the construction. The vessels were glued on to the outer ring of the carbon tube. Saw nothing about the inner surface. Seems like a titanium inner ring would have strengthened against stretch and compression vs the outer vessel

Given the previous communication failures, if the emergency occurred after comms loss, the mothership could just be expecting their risk-taking CEO to go down on the normal dive, & they'd regain comms a few hours later as normal.

It may be they made a quick call to the US Navy, who then picked up the implosion on SOSUS (or whatever they call it today), as that information has apparently been published.  So everyone at the top of the search has pretty much known since the beginning there was no chance.  

If the Navy knew to listen for it, were the monitoring their comms?

Hmmm....

I suppose it's possible our detection systems "heard " it and it was there when the Navy went back and looked at the data.

That alone would have had me nope'ing right out of there.

"You're marrying two dissimilar materials with glue? And you want me to sit in it two miles under water?"

Stockton Rush, the founder and CEO of OceanGate, is seen in the summer of 2022 talking to CBS News correspondent David Pogue about his Titanic tourist submersible. Rush told Pogue that the sub, Titan, was made in collaboration with Boeing, NASA and the University of Washington

NASA distances itself from OceanGate disaster, claiming it only carried out remote consultations and did NOT manufacture or test Titan sub - after University of Washington and Boeing denied ANY involvement

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12224091/NASA-says-did-NOT-help-manufacture-test-Titan-sub.html

Oh good a conspiracy theory already.

Being artsy fartsy and an imbecile gets you killed doing this stuff.  He and the folks he deals with know what they are doing when it comes to deep diving submersibles.

He's probably going to have PTSD after realizing it could have been him. I wonder if he volunteered to make the trip if CBS footed the bill or if CBS made that his assignment.

Damning is exactly how I'd describe that interview. Criminally negligent CEO and likely others.

Others in the industry wrote letters to Oceangate telling them it was too experimental for passengers and needed to be certified.

"fundamentally flawed design principle"

I guess boring old white guys like James Cameron and Bob Ballard just didn't cut it for Oceangate.

Tragic university student, 19, who was killed in Titanic submarine 'implosion' was 'terrified' about the trip and only joined the crew to please his dad for Father's Day, heartbroken aunt reveals



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The US navy knew it imploded the second it happened and told those people as such.



US Navy heard it

“The US Navy detected an acoustic signature consistent with an implosion on Sunday in the general area where the Titanic-bound submersible was diving when it lost communication with its mother ship, a senior Navy official told CNN.

The Navy then immediately relayed that information to the on-scene commanders leading the search effort, and it was used to narrow down the area of the search, the official said.”

It was an interview with a female relative.

ummm....

That... can't be accurate. Something is getting lost in translation.

It's been known that the mothership only reported a problem several hours after loss of communications. The implosion would have occurred WELL before any SAR efforts.

My old man traded one of those for a Colt MKIV Series 80 Government Model back in the day. Best trade ever!

Bush's baked beans dog?

Are there plans to bring the wreck to the surface and cut it open to drain the people out?

In this case it may be a correct comment but my view of the media is still valid.  Consider them like a broken clock.   They can be correct occasionally.

The ones designed by non inspirational guys like this Attached File

Maybe a team of guys like that
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Its in a lot of pieces. There a debris field.

There is nothing to drain.

Any pics yet?

Heard they only found 5 pieces so far. One is fragment of the pressure vessel. They are still searching.

The implosion was live streamed on Insta. You missed it bro.

This - same as the o-ring; at depth the o-ring is fully compressed and the seal is actually metal on metal at huge PSI.

It has already been cut open.

I'm seeing a lot of people are making this same mistake (not just here).  If it was a true "crush" event, the issue is that there are two things going on at the exact same moment.

1. Yes, it is water and it is under pressure (a genuine triple metric shit ton of pressure).  But, lots of people are forgetting that the water itself has mass.  Imagine if you will, you're in a 6'x6'x6' box, and sitting on top of the box is a 6'x6'x2.5 miles high column of water.  And suddenly, the roof just gives way.  The entire column of water above you is going to instantly slam down on you to fill the void.  You will be completely pulverized, not just crushed or slammed against the other wall, pulverized into paste.  No intact bones, no meat, just a compressed glob of water soluble goo.  Similar to a shipping container being dropped onto a tomato.  Squash, "damn, that don't look like no tomato I ever saw."  There may be chunks of flesh and fragments of bone floating around, but no recognizable corpse or peices that could be identified as part of such.

2. Now the triple metric shit ton of pressure issue.  This is where lots of us are using the term "Dieseled".  The worst case ambient pressure is (more or less) 5550 psi.  Divide that by 14.7 and you get an increase of pressure that is a factor of 377.55 times what is inside the container.  Air follows the "Ideal Gas Law" and volume is a direct inverse of the pressure, double the pressure, the volume is reduced to 1/2, triple the pressure, volume reduced to 1/3.  So, when things went to shit, all of the gasses (air) inside the sub got crushed into a volume 1/377.55th of the original volume. (If you know the actual internal volume of the cylinder, that ratio will tell you the volume of the resulting "combustion chamber").  Normal diesel engines operate at between 300 and 400 psi because that is what it takes to make enough heat for the diesel liquid spray to ignite.  For a brief moment, our cylinder reached an operating pressure of 5550 psi.  At that pressure, the heat was enough that things that don't normally combust, suddenly do, an explosion.  But only for a brief moment, then the volume of water flooded the space and put the fire out.

And, all of this happened in a very small fraction of a second.  They were dead before they could recognize that it was happening.

So, recovering the bodies?  No, there really aren't any to recover.

RIP

The question is, why wouldn’t they put an emergency latch in the inside?

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PSA already got the commemorative lowers out.  Talk about quick!

Diversity hires on mothership:
Dude put down the crack pipe, the Navy's on the line.

50yr old Navy guy:
Mothership, Coast Guard is in route to your location, anything you guy's wanna tell us ?

David Santa Carla:
TFW you should’ve hired 50 year old White ex-military submariners…

TFW you should’ve hired 50 year old White ex-military submariners… pic.twitter.com/sz162W2RfB

— David Santa Carla \uD83E\uDD87 (@TheOnlyDSC) June 21, 2023

I’m glad I’m not the only one scratching my head over this reported timeline.

I’d like to think it just popped on the way down (maybe pipped is the right term for an inward pop)

Can you run a quick ideal gas law calc to see what kind of theoretical temperature it might've gotten to?

Well, obviously they were intact enough to recognize them in the debris field.  It's looking more to me like the CF tube imploded, blasting off the end caps.

Probably not as this thing is probably a small debris field and there’s not much left of the occupants between getting crushed by implosion and then all the sea critters having a snack.

In fairness, the article(s) prey on the idea that he knew what we do- that all indicators point to this being  a sketchy operation. I’d be terrified of going down that far in a vessel that had 1000 successful missions- and I’ll bet most people would be as well.

The sad irony is that they went to visit a gravesite and now they’re a part of it