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Posted: 1/20/2019 12:09:07 PM EST
[#1]
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Ryan and McConnell squandered those years. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Trump squandered the past two years when he had a Republican Senate and House. 
Till Trump showed-up the politicians were fat and happy, votes for the Dems, cheap labor for the GOPe. Hell, my former GOPe House rep worked actively with churches and Obama's state dept. to bring in SA H2B workers to fill the poultry processing plants in his district. |
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Posted: 1/20/2019 12:09:18 PM EST
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Getting pretty pissed off at his pussification
Deportation is a compromise, serial offenders should face worse. I'd be perfectly fine that if caught here illegally more than once, any usable organs are harvested and the remaining carcass used to train medical students. See, I'm compassionate, they get to screw up once and still live to go home. |
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Posted: 1/20/2019 12:09:30 PM EST
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Fixed
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Posted: 1/20/2019 12:09:34 PM EST
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The “Republican” moniker means next to nothing, just because they have that letter next to their name doesn’t mean they can’t be swamp creatures. I swear so many people have a totally childlike view of the world and how it works, taking everything at face value and making no effort to understand how power actually works. |
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Posted: 1/20/2019 12:10:12 PM EST
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It was never going to happen anyway and it won't matter if there's no wall. Fix the leak first, then bail out the boat. no sense in bailing out a boat with a hole in it. |
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Posted: 1/20/2019 12:10:18 PM EST
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I swear so many people have a totally childlike view of the world and how it works, taking everything at face value and making no effort to understand how power actually works. 
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Posted: 1/20/2019 12:11:06 PM EST
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He had neither when it came to immigration......the senate was not filibuster proof and Ryan was for illegal immigration. He should have gone to war with those people from day one. |
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Posted: 1/20/2019 12:11:09 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: “You have to go back.” Campaign promise. Are you saying Trump lied to get elected...?!-?! Lol, rofl. “The best people,” (Tillerson, Bannon, Cohn, Sessions, and Mattis) all say the same exact thing... Don’t trust Trump. Kangaroos? 
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Posted: 1/20/2019 12:11:34 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yep. That is the solution. Criminalize hiring an illegal, and push illegals off welfare. Romney proposed that in 2012, and Obama and Trump both attacked him on his immigration stance as, "mean spirited" to illegals... Link |
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Posted: 1/20/2019 12:12:18 PM EST
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The “Republican” moniker means next to nothing, just because they have that letter next to their name doesn’t mean they can’t be swamp creatures. I swear so many people have a totally childlike view of the world and how it works, taking everything at face value and making no effort to understand how power actually works. |
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Posted: 1/20/2019 12:13:41 PM EST
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one term president.. |
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Posted: 1/20/2019 12:14:01 PM EST
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If only Jeb were President, we'd already have a wall and total deportation.
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Posted: 1/20/2019 12:14:30 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Which "hard working Americans" would those be? The owners of the meat/poultry processing plants? Some "Farmer John", Too Busy Mrs. Housefrau, or "Contractor Carl" that all pay cash under the table? Well fuck those people. They are helping to destroy America to line their own pockets or worse yet for their own convenience, so yeah, they can fucking well rot in jail as far as I am concerned.  |
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Posted: 1/20/2019 12:14:58 PM EST
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Calm the fuck down. What does no real push mean? Do you think this get arrested and get deported is a real push or no real push? You have no idea, that what’s great about the phrase, no real push. Exactly. First stop the border crossings. Then make it very difficult for them to stay. They're not rounding them all up like they did with the Japanese Americans in WWII. |
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Posted: 1/20/2019 12:15:33 PM EST
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Your hero McCain had a little to do with keeping Obamacare. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Your hero McCain had a little to do with keeping Obamacare. Trump promised to over-turn Obamacare, and failed. He also promised to make Mexico fund the border wall, and failed. He also promised to increase gun rights, put Hillary in prison, bring-in the "best people," (that one is funny, as Tillerson, Mattis, Cohn, Bannon, and Sessions all castigate Trump as a untrustworthy person), balance the budget, and eliminate the deficit... Failed. Quoted:
Did you know McCain was a POW? He tried to keep that on the down low. Trump lied. Trump has no morals or integrity. Trump has no plan to, "negotiate," for his campaign promises... Lol, rofl. Trump is a failure. |
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Posted: 1/20/2019 12:16:02 PM EST
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Tightening up the labor laws, making e-verify mandatory for every employer, that's how you start pushing the illegals out. When they can't get jobs they'll leave. You don't have to push hard to get them to leave. Just make it difficult for them to stay. |
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Posted: 1/20/2019 12:16:09 PM EST
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Posted: 1/20/2019 12:16:17 PM EST
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Primaries matter.
Praise kuk. 
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Posted: 1/20/2019 12:16:32 PM EST
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Tightening up the labor laws, making e-verify mandatory for every employer, that's how you start pushing the illegals out. When they can't get jobs they'll leave. You don't have to push hard to get them to leave. Just make it difficult for them to stay. Yup. I legally immigrated here from Canada. All the t's were crossed and i's dotted. Any misstep in my paperwork and I would have been kicked out, and I was told so by immigration. |
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Posted: 1/20/2019 12:17:18 PM EST
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Well, what the fuck is he supposed to do with a D House? |
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Posted: 1/20/2019 12:17:26 PM EST
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Just like I said last night FUCK TRUMP! I have been a supporter from day one but his comments over the last 24 hours shows definitively that he is a man with no principals. Between his DACA BS and now amnesty as part of something larger is a deal killer, and I do not give a crap if it never happens, just floating that is infuriating. Impeach him or make him a one term POTUS like Daddy Bush as I no longer care.
Every time the dems say "comprehensive immigration reform" or "our immigration system is broken" it is nothing but code for they want amnesty for everyone here illegally. We all know if you give 20+ million people amnesty the republican party is done at every level in this nation. We know the border will never be secured and to float this BS will make more illegals come faster. TRUMP what a fucktard. |
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Posted: 1/20/2019 12:18:45 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes that's correct the evil greedy buisness owners are the real "hard working Americans" |
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Posted: 1/20/2019 12:18:49 PM EST
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Turning hard working Americans into felons is never the answer. Buisness owners are being forced to play by the rules set in place by elected officials. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Only when the risk vs the reward of hiring illegals is realized by making the hiring of illegals a felony we will be dealing with this problem forever. Same with the hiring of those with expired visas. But, but, but, the illegal gave me fake documents.....Fuck you, here's your felony. Life is harsh, it should be doubly so for those that hire illegals. |
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Posted: 1/20/2019 12:20:54 PM EST
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No sense deporting them, without a means of keeping them out.
Build the wall, stop the flow, then worry about those who remain. |
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Posted: 1/20/2019 12:21:48 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What is the legal status of immigrants in the U.S.? Link The majority of immigrants settling in the U.S. without authorization are first coming to the country legally Link The vast (and extreme) majority of illegals in this country would not be stopped by a wall. The wall talk is a political distraction... |
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Posted: 1/20/2019 12:22:43 PM EST
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.......that didn't take long. I'm sure the scum who hired Mollie Tibbit's killer in IOWA had no idea or clue he was illegal. Read that link, if you want your mind blown at how the border wall will do jack to fix our immigration problem. Folks knew Mollie Tibbits was killed by an immigrant, still trying to keep Ag jobs open to immigrants... MIND BLOWING. The wall is a distraction, folks. |
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Posted: 1/20/2019 12:23:48 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why do people always post this "round up all of them" shit? Enforce the laws- detain and deport SOME, actively and consistently. Stop enabling them to come here. Let them know that at anytime they could be detained and deported and lose everything they have acquired and built here, that at no point will they ever be allowed to stay. Two things.
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Posted: 1/20/2019 12:27:44 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: McCain is more of an American hero than, "take the guns first," Trump will ever be. Trump promised to over-turn Obamacare, and failed. He also promised to make Mexico fund the border wall, and failed. He also promised to increase gun rights, put Hillary in prison, bring-in the "best people," (that one is funny, as Tillerson, Mattis, Cohn, Bannon, and Sessions all castigate Trump as a untrustworthy person), balance the budget, and eliminate the deficit... Failed. Did you know that Trump repeatedly sold himself as a, "master negotiator." Lol, rofl. Trump lied. Trump has no morals or integrity. Trump has no plan to, "negotiate," for his campaign promises... Lol, rofl. Trump is a failure. |
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Posted: 1/20/2019 12:27:48 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yep, and they were given their marching orders by the US Chamber of Commerce.
Till Trump showed-up the politicians were fat and happy, votes for the Dems, cheap labor for the GOPe. Hell, my former GOPe House rep worked actively with churches and Obama's state dept. to bring in SA H2B workers to fill the poultry processing plants in his district. These country club chamber of commerce republicans are nearly as big a threat to this nation as the Marxist democrats. |
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Posted: 1/20/2019 12:28:47 PM EST
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I'm aware of all that, they bring tyem here on buses for farm work. I'd really like to see the numbers before I'd call it an extreme majority, though. I can count on one hand the amount of people I know who have overstayed their visa, and I can't even count the number who have "ran through the desert" stories. Anecdotal sure but if there are 30 million here illegally then counting the number of overstayed visas against that number should be a pretty easy way to determine it. ~50% of the immigrants on the Tyson Chicken bus won't leave. Last year, same thing. Year before, same thing. Year before that. Same thing... You get the picture. The majority of illegal immigrants enter this country illegally. Depending on the statistic... But I would call 70-90% an "extreme majority." So, 10-30% have, "ran through the desert," stories... The minority. The extreme minority. Talk of a, "wall," is a distraction from the real problem... And, anecdotally… I have read, heard, and seen stories of immigrants who crossed legally, walked across the desert, went back legally, came back legally, crossed illegally, etc, etc. They shut the border down going-south, and they can't come back they just won't leave. The 70-90% goes to 100% overnight... The wall is fake news. The wall is a distraction... And Trump is not actually shutting the border down with a wall. His last offer was for ~300 miles more, a fraction of the border... |
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Posted: 1/20/2019 12:29:20 PM EST
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True, but he could have vetoed the appropriations bills and shut the government down in his first year in order to put pressure on Ryan and McConnell. He should have gone to war with those people from day one. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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He had neither when it came to immigration......the senate was not filibuster proof and Ryan was for illegal immigration. He should have gone to war with those people from day one. |
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Posted: 1/20/2019 12:30:49 PM EST
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This statement from him is not new and is the only logical solution. He offered legalization (not citizenship) to all 20 million (not just DACA kids) if we build the wall, and Dem's turned it down last year(?). I think it's the best solution. |
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Posted: 1/20/2019 12:31:00 PM EST
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one term president.. Trump is buying us time before SHTF big time with the commie movement Stack it deep my friends |
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Posted: 1/20/2019 12:32:40 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: McCain is more of an American hero than, "take the guns first," Trump will ever be. Trump promised to over-turn Obamacare, and failed. He also promised to make Mexico fund the border wall, and failed. He also promised to increase gun rights, put Hillary in prison, bring-in the "best people," (that one is funny, as Tillerson, Mattis, Cohn, Bannon, and Sessions all castigate Trump as a untrustworthy person), balance the budget, and eliminate the deficit... Failed. Did you know that Trump repeatedly sold himself as a, "master negotiator." Lol, rofl. Trump lied. Trump has no morals or integrity. Trump has no plan to, "negotiate," for his campaign promises... Lol, rofl. Trump is a failure. Not to mention McCain Feingold. |
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Posted: 1/20/2019 12:32:43 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Bottom of page two is where I posted links... ~50% of the immigrants on the Tyson Chicken bus won't leave. Last year, same thing. Year before, same thing. Year before that. Same thing... You get the picture. The majority of illegal immigrants enter this country illegally. Depending on the statistic... But I would call 70-90% an "extreme majority." So, 10-30% have, "ran through the desert," stories... The minority. The extreme minority. Talk of a, "wall," is a distraction from the real problem... And, anecdotally… I have read, heard, and seen stories of immigrants who crossed legally, walked across the desert, went back legally, came back legally, crossed illegally, etc, etc. They shut the border down going-south, and they can't come back they just won't leave. The 70-90% goes to 100% overnight... The wall is fake news. The wall is a distraction... And Trump is not actually shutting the border down with a wall. His last offer was for ~300 miles more, a fraction of the border... The pros want it and have wanted it for a long consistent period of time. And they do not want it just to get more money...….they want it because they know it will help a lot in stopping illegal immigration. Current pros want it, retired pros say we need it and it is just common sense that funneling people into fewer areas is easier to patrol and navigate. BUILD THE WALL. |
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Posted: 1/20/2019 12:32:52 PM EST
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If you thought the parasites already here were going to be rounded up and forcibly removed you are more delusional than the liberals who want door to door gun confiscation.
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Posted: 1/20/2019 12:33:10 PM EST
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That master negotiator beat 16 other contenders for POTUS. Your hero McCain was for closing the gun show loophole, was open borders, and was neck deep in the Keating 5. Not to mention McCain Feingold. |
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Posted: 1/20/2019 12:33:38 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: +1 Yup. I legally immigrated here from Canada. All the t's were crossed and i's dotted. Any misstep in my paperwork and I would have been kicked out, and I was told so by immigration. |
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Posted: 1/20/2019 12:34:27 PM EST
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Get the guns but not the illegal aliens
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Posted: 1/20/2019 12:35:02 PM EST
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He had neither when it came to immigration......the senate was not filibuster proof and Ryan was for illegal immigration. Trump campaign slogan for 2020: It is all everyone else's fault I failed! Vote Trump! Four more years of failure! 
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Posted: 1/20/2019 12:35:39 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Mollie Tibbetts' death put a spotlight on undocumented immigrants. But can Iowa's economy thrive without them? Link Read that link, if you want your mind blown at how the border wall will do jack to fix our immigration problem. Folks knew Mollie Tibbits was killed by an immigrant, still trying to keep Ag jobs open to immigrants... MIND BLOWING. The wall is a distraction, folks. Did you ever provide a source for your statement regarding most illegals come here legally? |
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Posted: 1/20/2019 12:35:43 PM EST
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Just like I said last night FUCK TRUMP! I have been a supporter from day one but his comments over the last 24 hours shows definitively that he is a man with no principals. Between his DACA BS and now amnesty as part of something larger is a deal killer, and I do not give a crap if it never happens, just floating that is infuriating. Impeach him or make him a one term POTUS like Daddy Bush as I no longer care. Every time the dems say "comprehensive immigration reform" or "our immigration system is broken" it is nothing but code for they want amnesty for everyone here illegally. We all know if you give 20+ million people amnesty the republican party is done at every level in this nation. We know the border will never be secured and to float this BS will make more illegals come faster. TRUMP what a fucktard.
Where were you during the primary, bud?
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Posted: 1/20/2019 12:36:30 PM EST
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Only when the risk vs the reward of hiring illegals is realized by making the hiring of illegals a felony we will be dealing with this problem forever. Same with the hiring of those with expired visas. But, but, but, the illegal gave me fake documents.....Fuck you, here's your felony. Life is harsh, it should be doubly so for those that hire illegals. Pay an illegal off the books, no taxes collected, they ares till eligible for certain benefits on the tax payers dime, free medical. Business gets cheaper labor and the ta payer eats the rest. The insanity of it all and both sides of the isle to jack about it. |
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Posted: 1/20/2019 12:37:30 PM EST
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And McFuck stopped the repeal of Obamacare. |
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Posted: 1/20/2019 12:37:48 PM EST
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I hate to say it but we bought into his sales pitch , but what where we going to do ? we rolled the dice & we bought some time ...........full commie train headed our way .
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Posted: 1/20/2019 12:37:48 PM EST
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Posted: 1/20/2019 12:39:12 PM EST
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Yes he did. Did you know McCain was a POW? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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And McFuck stopped the repeal of Obamacare. |
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Posted: 1/20/2019 12:40:13 PM EST
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The other poster (pcal) made a good point in that Trump could have played hardball more and vetoed any spending bill not addressing immigration more. Trump could have done more...….I concede that. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: But we were told that Trump was a master at negotiation, and accomplishing his campaign promises! Lol, rofl. Trump campaign slogan for 2020: It is all everyone else's fault I failed! Vote Trump! Four more years of failure! https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-IeK2QIhfCTg/XDK2Z5JumAI/AAAAAAAABAw/-g28PUO97kY-6NqtqxSIBARsCZyYXt-7QCLcBGAs/s400/Rino.png https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-1Gf9uK7RUfc/XDOCp5YPFYI/AAAAAAAABBs/3LmwgdcRqNgxK76Vwvv_BortW1HYWgt8ACLcBGAs/s400/stable%2Bgenius.png https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-wDnfwAtpJrY/XDXnnHfBusI/AAAAAAAABD8/BkqhNdI8TLgjDE4zCPxY7LRZSJ-7pkX9gCLcBGAs/s1600/Trump%2Bcampaign.png https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-QXOk8poqtgQ/XDafVzHZl0I/AAAAAAAABEQ/GzvWUZwl_8Mt0icnYLaWaZzM4eyEKaziwCLcBGAs/s1600/Trump%2B2020.png https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-QnouHuvisWQ/XDdIZCIBeLI/AAAAAAAABE4/BGkLhisFK3wCTuqxALStnSPKTFxEddT2wCLcBGAs/s1600/Failure.png Trump could have done more...….I concede that. |
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Posted: 1/20/2019 12:40:40 PM EST
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Quote HistoryRyan was CLEARLY for that part of abusive illegal immigration that benefitted the Chamber of Commerce...…..there is absolutely NO DOUBT about that.
McConnell did not have a filibuster proof senate. |
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