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Link Posted: 11/9/2019 3:02:41 AM EDT
[#1]
Bail, if she's not ready to move forward, you can't move forward..
Link Posted: 11/9/2019 3:05:53 AM EDT
[#2]
Like anything else, may be a woman that adores you and will do anything to make you happy, or maybe not.  Sometimes you’ve gots to pay your money to take the ride.
Link Posted: 11/9/2019 3:08:11 AM EDT
[#3]
OP, You're lucky you didn't have children with her, you'd eventually find out she was sexually abused as a child and thinks it's ok for her kids to be raped also, because it makes her feel normal. But you'd only find out ~20 years later, after she divorced you with 14.5 years of child support and moved in with some meth head pedophile.
Link Posted: 11/9/2019 3:12:46 AM EDT
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Or worse, you'd watch it happening, try to stop it, get mad cause no one will stop it, and end up getting banned from seeing your own kids, while they spend their formative years getting raped.
Link Posted: 11/9/2019 3:13:39 AM EDT
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I went out with a beautiful woman who was mentally abused by her cop husband. He was always running her plates and his cop buddies kept tabs on her reporting her activities to him.

The event we went to was a fundraiser in as a group. While we were moving through the food line I kept asking her if she wanted some of this or that. She was so beat down she kept saying only if I wanted her to have some.

It was a bad situation for her before she got out. The thing is that she’s a very successful doctor. By the end of the evening I think she had fun. I got a huge hug and a really nice kiss, which I’m sure was very difficult for her.
Link Posted: 11/9/2019 3:14:58 AM EDT
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I live in a small town and I'm bored...

Fishing in a really small pond.
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You should ask yourself why you were attracted to her in the first place.  
I live in a small town and I'm bored...

Fishing in a really small pond.
So you are a cable man in a really small town dating a battered divorcée.  You are almost Arocking yourself.
Link Posted: 11/9/2019 3:17:38 AM EDT
[#7]
If she can't unfuck her shit any better than that on her own, you're not going to do it any better.
Link Posted: 11/9/2019 3:27:56 AM EDT
[#8]
It's a dirty rotten shame what happened to her and she desperately needs help but a relationship? I'd run not walk away until she gets help. Her baggage will destroy any relationship until then.
Link Posted: 11/9/2019 3:33:08 AM EDT
[#9]
Fuck that .you can't fix broken people and it's a pump and dump only
Link Posted: 11/9/2019 3:34:44 AM EDT
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So I've been dating this girl who was married for 10 years to an abusive husband.

She has PTSD and any conversation you have with her about it she flies off the handle and starts bawling and it ends up being a huge fight.

She just wants to sit in her home, drink, and live in the past crying about what happened to her.   I've told her I'm not like that and I'd like to begin a relationship with her and for her to move forward...but she just can't get past what happened to her.

I guess it's time to move on.

You just can't fix broken people.
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correct.

You ever consider she may have been broken the whole time?
Link Posted: 11/9/2019 3:36:32 AM EDT
[#11]
Everyone has their issues. If she's not in a space where she wishes to deal with those issues in a positive way that works with a relationship with you, and she's unwilling to take meaningful steps to work towards that, then you must do what's healthy:
1.SIHPAPP
2.EJECT EJECT EJECT
Link Posted: 11/9/2019 3:44:57 AM EDT
[#12]
You can't fix her, and neither can a therapist or anyone else. She has to decide to fix herself.
Link Posted: 11/9/2019 4:05:34 AM EDT
[#13]
RUN
Link Posted: 11/9/2019 5:59:52 AM EDT
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You should ask yourself why you were attracted to her in the first place.  
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Link Posted: 11/9/2019 6:06:41 AM EDT
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Eh. Guy could be hot as the sun with a magic dick, and he still wouldn't be worth that nonsense.

Maybe I wouldn't get it. I think i'm ok with that.
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Can't find the video, he does a better job explaining it there, but here is a quote that sums it up:

Women say they have sexual thoughts too. They have no idea. It's the difference between shooting a bullet and throwing it. If they knew what we were really thinking, they'd never stop slapping us.
Larry Miller
Link Posted: 11/9/2019 6:11:18 AM EDT
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In all sincerity encourage her to seek help.  Therapy, counseling.  She should not have to go through life like that. But, this is not your job unless she’s your wife.  Gently bail.
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Nice reply. You're one of the good ones.
Link Posted: 11/9/2019 6:28:54 AM EDT
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According to what I see on social media, they all have been abused, but they have persevered, and life is such a struggle, and it is so hard being a woman, and the world is against me, but I am strong because I have a vagina, and men are the devil.
Link Posted: 11/9/2019 7:10:32 AM EDT
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Dated one for awhile that had been raped. Drank beer everyday and wanted to be on top most of the time during sex. The beer won.
Link Posted: 11/9/2019 7:23:47 AM EDT
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This comes from experience.... walk away..
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Link Posted: 11/9/2019 7:29:27 AM EDT
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So I've been dating this girl who was married for 10 years to an abusive husband.

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Link Posted: 11/9/2019 7:44:34 AM EDT
[#21]
Walk away..
Chef.
Link Posted: 11/9/2019 7:49:04 AM EDT
[#22]
Run.

Seriously need to ask?
Link Posted: 11/9/2019 7:52:11 AM EDT
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Run. There are plenty of women out there. Mostly all crazy but find one with a crazy level you can deal with.
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This.
Link Posted: 11/9/2019 8:04:45 AM EDT
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So I've been dating this girl who was married for 10 years to an abusive husband.

She has PTSD and any conversation you have with her about it she flies off the handle and starts bawling and it ends up being a huge fight.

She just wants to sit in her home, drink, and live in the past crying about what happened to her.   I've told her I'm not like that and I'd like to begin a relationship with her and for her to move forward...but she just can't get past what happened to her.

I guess it's time to move on.

You just can't fix broken people.
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@Cableman I was going to marry one of those once upon a time. She had seen a therapist for years and I thought she was fixed and acted like her shit was together again. We dated for a little over two years and i honestly thought she was the one for me. One weekend she went to her parents, while I went ring shopping, and her ex showed up. He gave her the "I've changed" bullshit and she called me saying she was going back to him and thanks for all the good times. When I asked wtf, she said she would "never know what would have happened between them if she didn't try again." (Perhaps one of the age ladies can explain that, because it makes zero sense) After that, I broke all contact with her. About two months later, i heard through the grape vine that she was walking around with a black eye.

Don't waste anymore time with it, brother. Plenty other crazy ones out there
Link Posted: 11/9/2019 8:06:54 AM EDT
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In high school I dated a girl who was beaten by both her father and a boyfriend. She was sweet, smart, and looked like 18 year old Jodie Foster with a better rack.

Once day we were sitting in the car concluding an argument about having to go to a party with people who I really hated.  From the driver's seat I reached with my right arm cross body to grab my seatbelt to put it on. I see Lori wince and throw up arms to block her face. That's how I found out about the damaged goods that were sitting next to me. I thought at the time I could fix her by being nice. That proved to be wrong.

Time to bail OP
Link Posted: 11/9/2019 8:13:38 AM EDT
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"STFU or I'll give you something to cry about."

Just kidding. Run.
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Damn
Link Posted: 11/9/2019 8:28:02 AM EDT
[#27]
I can't imagine going on another  a date after the second time that happened.
Link Posted: 11/9/2019 8:29:45 AM EDT
[#28]
Whatever you decide to do I wish you luck.
Link Posted: 11/9/2019 8:30:58 AM EDT
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Yep, she wants him back. You need to bail now.
Link Posted: 11/9/2019 8:31:03 AM EDT
[#30]
You are correct that you can't fix broken people, but God can.

I went through years of physical abuse as a kid by my step father.  The emotional wounds that leaves are impossible to heal outside of God.
Link Posted: 11/9/2019 8:38:18 AM EDT
[#31]
My understanding is that you can, in most cases, fix these issues by putting a baby in her. It has a calming effect and will improve the situation. Bareback therapy
Link Posted: 11/9/2019 8:41:50 AM EDT
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I guess it's time to move on.

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Link Posted: 11/9/2019 8:50:47 AM EDT
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There is a 99.9% chance you can do absolutely nothing to help OP. She has to want to change, and it appears that is not the case. Until she lets it go, or gets professional help to help her let go, the past will always be there and run her life. As long as you are there, you will be along for the ride, in one way or another. Only you can decide where you will go next. If you walk, be prepared for two types of reaction. One, she's going to break down and tell you she'll do whatever it takes to change. This is either manipulation, or a chance to get her help. If she won't seek help, and seriously pursue it, there is her decision. Two, she's gonna turn on you as if she's throwing you out in order to convince herself that she's a strong, independent woman that's over the past. Make sure you have all your belongings, etc. ready for a quick/clean exit, and don't say or do anything that would warrant her calling law enforcement.
Link Posted: 11/9/2019 8:53:10 AM EDT
[#34]
The problem with saving damsels in distress is that you end up with distressed damsels.

Get out, Get out NOW.
Link Posted: 11/9/2019 9:01:50 AM EDT
[#35]
Life is pretty damn short, who needs that kind of drama mucking it up?
Link Posted: 11/9/2019 9:12:57 AM EDT
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OP, You're lucky you didn't have children with her, you'd eventually find out she was sexually abused as a child and thinks it's ok for her kids to be raped also, because it makes her feel normal.
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Wtf? So you are saying childhood sexual abuse victims want that for their own children??? Your frame of mind is messed up...
Link Posted: 11/9/2019 9:14:14 AM EDT
[#37]
Billions of women in the world, it’s not worth the trouble.
Link Posted: 11/9/2019 9:16:52 AM EDT
[#38]
Don't save her, she don't wanna be saved
Link Posted: 11/9/2019 9:17:22 AM EDT
[#39]
She’s content and comfortable in her rocking chair called the past. You’re temporary but what isn’t is her rocking chair habit. It’s comfortable to sit on but going nowhere.
Link Posted: 11/9/2019 9:18:19 AM EDT
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There's more than a couple that say they were abused but were not by any measurable standard,  they just want the attention that comes with playing victim.   They're ill....
Link Posted: 11/9/2019 9:19:07 AM EDT
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Once the programming is set for her “normal” she’ll work subconsciously to get to that state.

Can get problematic for you.
Link Posted: 11/9/2019 9:22:17 AM EDT
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Sex is a powerful motivator...

She has a rocking body and knows how to use it...
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well...keep sexing and leave it at that
Link Posted: 11/9/2019 9:24:06 AM EDT
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There's more than a couple that say they were abused but were not by any measurable standard,  they just want the attention that comes with playing victim.   They're ill....
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Plenty the wear their self diagnosed PTSD like a badge of honor too.

OP, walk don’t run. You can’t fix her, only she can fix her and it doesn’t sound like she’s interested in it.
Link Posted: 11/9/2019 9:25:14 AM EDT
[#44]
Go now, ask me how I know.
Link Posted: 11/9/2019 9:26:08 AM EDT
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Is it wrong this was playing in my head while reading this thread?

Project Pat - Don’t Save Her
Link Posted: 11/9/2019 9:27:22 AM EDT
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My mother had that happen to her. Ex was some black op in Army during Vietnam. The guy was sent to kill one person and get out alive to repeat it later. He can track anyone anywhere and show up anywhere and disappear just as fast.
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Link Posted: 11/9/2019 9:27:59 AM EDT
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Wtf? So you are saying childhood sexual abuse victims want that for their own children??? Your frame of mind is messed up...
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OP, You're lucky you didn't have children with her, you'd eventually find out she was sexually abused as a child and thinks it's ok for her kids to be raped also, because it makes her feel normal.

Wtf? So you are saying childhood sexual abuse victims want that for their own children??? Your frame of mind is messed up...
Bullfuckingshit his frame of mind is messed up, you obviously haven’t dealt with a cluster b monster, everything thing he said is exactly what i fear happening to my two children, with their mother and her mother being in rape/incest relationships with both their fathers, it’s a fucking sick reality that I’m trying my hardest to prevent, only for the God damn piece of shit judge to threaten to take my kids from me if “I lay one finger on a  single hair “on her proven white supremacist boyfriend. Since then(last year) she has had scum of the earth junkies around my kids left and right, one junkie after another, and nobody will help me do jack shit because I’m a man, I’ve been through two lawyers already, the judge rules against me every time I go to court.
Link Posted: 11/9/2019 9:32:21 AM EDT
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I didn’t read the middle part of the thread, so maybe this has been said already:  in my experience “my past husband was abusive” or “my current husband is abusive” is often used as an excuse to rationalize shitty behavior by women who are themselves abusive, whether it’s true or not true.

I’ve had the chance to meet a lot of people having bad days.  Often abuse isn’t a one way street, it’s a three-dimension traffic circle where a Mexican 18-wheeler loaded with organ-meat piñatas just ran over a chicken-stealing coyote and slid into the ditch and rolled over into your yard. Aka:  a big fucking mess.
Link Posted: 11/9/2019 9:32:37 AM EDT
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So I've been dating this girl who was married for 10 years to an abusive husband.

She has PTSD and any conversation you have with her about it she flies off the handle and starts bawling and it ends up being a huge fight.

She just wants to sit in her home, drink, and live in the past crying about what happened to her.   I've told her I'm not like that and I'd like to begin a relationship with her and for her to move forward...but she just can't get past what happened to her.

I guess it's time to move on.

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Only she can deal with her issues. If she chooses not to, there’s nothing you can do.
Link Posted: 11/9/2019 9:32:37 AM EDT
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Wtf? So you are saying childhood sexual abuse victims want that for their own children??? Your frame of mind is messed up...
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OP, You're lucky you didn't have children with her, you'd eventually find out she was sexually abused as a child and thinks it's ok for her kids to be raped also, because it makes her feel normal.

Wtf? So you are saying childhood sexual abuse victims want that for their own children??? Your frame of mind is messed up...
1.  He's not saying victims "want that" for their own children.  But there is data indicating that those victims believe sexual abuse is "normal" because that was their experience.  We are all prisoners of our own experiences to a great extent, and looking past that is difficult for most people.

2.  You assume childhood sexual abuse victims think like normal people who merely had bad things happen to them as a child.  Nothing could be further from the truth.  Childhood sexual abuse messes a person's mind up for life, and most cannot overcome it.  So they aren't normal-thinking people.
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