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I wish I had the foresight to watch the last couple episodes to jog my memory.I thought it was an awesome episode nevertheless.
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I hope they don't kill ragnar off this season but if they do it could be interesting if his son takes over
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If the series follow historical guidelines, after Ragnar dies, Bjorn and Ivar (the boneless) will begin their rise to power. While Ivar was weak physically, he was supposed to be a very capable military leader, both tactically and strategically.
Floki is fooked. The seer implied that a woman will rule Kattigat after Ragnar. Lagertha? Or Princess Aslaug? I think the 20 episodes are to be split into two segments, with several weeks between them, giving Bjorn and Ivar enough years to mature into competent leaders. It's going to be an interesting season. |
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i was disappointed, but it makes sense. at a personal level, he wants to break with his past completely and establish himself as his own man. at a political level, this proves something to his new people. and at a strategic level, he had no way of predicting what his camp would do when ragnar showed back up. wiping out the camp controls that variable. so from a purely instrumental point of view, the decision had a lot going for it. and remember, this is a guy who tried to kill his own brother several times, so self-interest runs pretty strong in the guy. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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*******SPOILER ALERT******* Why did Rollo have the whole camp killed? If half were on his side, why not have them declare sides and just kill half? I guess he thought the half loyal to him would not remain loyal after seeing their brothers killed? i was disappointed, but it makes sense. at a personal level, he wants to break with his past completely and establish himself as his own man. at a political level, this proves something to his new people. and at a strategic level, he had no way of predicting what his camp would do when ragnar showed back up. wiping out the camp controls that variable. so from a purely instrumental point of view, the decision had a lot going for it. and remember, this is a guy who tried to kill his own brother several times, so self-interest runs pretty strong in the guy. Heres my take on it... Perhaps ( Im hoping this is the case) Rolo decided that since half we willing to betray Ragnar, it would only be a matter of time before the whole lot decided too.. By killing them off he assured that none of them will fight against Ragnar, thus weakening paris even more |
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I rewatched it tonight. I found it interesting that Bjorn was contemplating a map showing the Mediterranean, and saying it was his destiny. Bjorn was known for sailing into the Med.
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I rewatched it tonight. I found it interesting that Bjorn was contemplating a map showing the Mediterranean, and saying it was his destiny. Bjorn was known for sailing into the Med. View Quote Whats with the slave girl? Is she Asian or American Indian? Did not look like the rest of the French that were kidnapped. |
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I did not know that. I seems that if you buy the blueray they are uncensored. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Wish we got the European versions. :( I did not know that. I seems that if you buy the blueray they are uncensored. Yes...the blu rays show all the nudity. Even showed the full bush of Floki's wife. Ragnar is definitely interested in the slave girl. Previews seem to show that he makes her another one of his wives. |
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Yes...the blu rays show all the nudity. Even showed the full bush of Floki's wife. Ragnar is definitely interested in the slave girl. Previews seem to show that he makes her another one of his wives. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Wish we got the European versions. :( I did not know that. I seems that if you buy the blueray they are uncensored. Yes...the blu rays show all the nudity. Even showed the full bush of Floki's wife. Ragnar is definitely interested in the slave girl. Previews seem to show that he makes her another one of his wives. Mmmmn...tilted vertical! |
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View Quote Such a dame. |
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Floki is paying big time for killing Athelstan, but Ragnar is showing compassion for Floki's wife and kid. There seemed to be some bonding going on. Could get interesting, as Ragnar is getting kind of pissed at Aslaug. He's developing a darker side, too. Looks like they're prepping the viewers so they won't be so pissed off when he winds up in King Aelle's snake pit.
Things are getting froggy in Mercia. The Nympho queen fights almost as viciously as Lagertha. It would seem King Eckbert is setting up his son to get knocked off in battle. He's sure taking a liking to his daughter-in-law. It'll be interesting to see what happens the next time Ragnar tries to invade Paris. Rollo isn't as dumb as he looks |
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Last night's episode was pretty lame. Every show can't be great, even Breaking Bad had the fly episode. Hopefully this was a setup for better stuff in the next episodes.
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Yeah, I think this is going to be a good season.
Click To View Spoiler I think Eckbert is wanting a new male heir, maybe he is beginning to see his son as a threat. Didn't he make a comment last episode about no King having been able to peaceably pass on their rule to their son? Also, a nice little comment about saving princess crazy and her son, but just the boy if it came down to it. Rollo knows a lot about Ragnar and they way he fights and thinks, but not everything. I think Ragnar will learn and adapt tactics as needed. Ragnar wasn't happy about Rollo left behind at Pairs - "I know better". Not happy at all with Bjorn. It will be interesting to see how Bjorn handles the winter alone, and how his future exploration/ raiding goes. |
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I liked last nights episode, I think that this will be a great season, I claim Flokies wife,,
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I thought the best part of the last episode was the fight between Eckbert's son and the dude with the key at the base of the tour. No typical TV BS, Kung Fu kicks or anything. Just a brutal fists, knees, and elbows brawl. And Queen Crazy was having a pretty good one herself upstairs.
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I thought the best part of the last episode was the fight between Eckbert's son and the dude with the key at the base of the tour. No typical TV BS, Kung Fu kicks or anything. Just a brutal fists, knees, and elbows brawl. And Queen Crazy was having a pretty good one herself upstairs. View Quote yeah, i've never cared much for kwinthrift (sp?), but she redeemed herself a little by throwing down in impressive fashion. |
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Enjoyed the reference to Loki and Sygin with Helga holding the bowel over Floki.
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Tonight's episode had a whole lot of WTF. Almost turning into another SOA type soap opera for men kind of show. There better be some violence soon.
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The bear scene with Bjorn was cool as fuck, but give me a gun for that shit. Ragnar's new love interest is the hottest chick to appear on the show.
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Like the previous episode, this one is establishing the groundwork for many things to come
Given that Bjorn was still half-drunk from the keg of mead he found, his attacking the bear definitely falls into the it-seemed-like-a-good-idea-at-the-time category. He's lucky he didn't wind up in a pile of bear poop instead of the other way around. He's getting tougher and smarter. The Beserker that has been sent to kill him is not going to have things go the way he thinks they will. It should be one Hell of a fight. As predicted, Athelstan will make cameo appearances from time to time. Nice plot twist that he is the one responsible for Ragnar freeing Floki. Things are getting interesting in Wessex. King Eckbert is banging his daughter-in-law while his son humps the nympho Queen. Al bets are off since Eckbert and DIL now know that Athelstan is dead. Rollo has the desire to rule, but lacks the patience and cunning. Strong in tactics but weak in strategy, he has a long way to go if he's to acquire the position history dictates. |
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Didn't he say that in last week's episode and it was shown as a flashback at the intro to this week's program? My impression was that he was going to let Floki die, then look after Helga himself, but Athelstan's appearance repeating "mercy" convinced him to free Floki.
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To me, it sounded he said "He's suffered enough" after Helga asked him what he was going to do. Based on her facial expressions, I'm sure she thought Ragnar brought the axe to kill Floki.
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Lagertha humps the younger man who wants her to have his children all the while plotting to assassinate her son.
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To me, it sounded he said "He's suffered enough" after Helga asked him what he was going to do. Based on her facial expressions, I'm sure she thought Ragnar brought the axe to kill Floki. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
To me, it sounded he said "He's suffered enough" after Helga asked him what he was going to do. Based on her facial expressions, I'm sure she thought Ragnar brought the axe to kill Floki. I went back and watched it with the closed caption turned on. Ragnar said, "You've suffered enough, Helga". Floki may still be on his shit list. With CC on, some background conversations that are barely audible are brought out. When Ragnar was telling his kids about Thor and the "the boatman", there was a background conversation with some of the Vikings arguing whether or not the ship's sails would have to be replace for the spring raids. It brings out a lot of the dialog that is partially covered by background noise, too. Quoted:
Lagertha humps the younger man who wants her to have his children all the while plotting to assassinate her son. Lagertha can no longer have children. The child she miscarried in Season 1 fixed that. I don't know what was in that keg Bjorn found, but it had to be good stuff to have him howling at the Aurora. Nice Auroral display, too. Wished they'd have shown more of it. The scene of Athelstan washing Ragnar's feet could have some interesting implications for future episodes. |
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I went back and watched it with the closed caption turned on. Ragnar said, "You've suffered enough, Helga". Floki may still be on his shit list. With CC on, some background conversations that are barely audible are brought out. When Ragnar was telling his kids about Thor and the "the boatman", there was a background conversation with some of the Vikings arguing whether or not the ship's sails would have to be replace for the spring raids. It brings out a lot of the dialog that is partially covered by background noise, too. Lagertha can no longer have children. The child she aborted in Season 1 fixed that. I don't know what was in that keg Bjorn found, but it had to be good stuff to have him howling at the Aurora. Nice Auroral display, too. Wished they'd have shown more of it. The scene of Athelstan washing Ragnar's feet could have some interesting implications for future episodes. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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To me, it sounded he said "He's suffered enough" after Helga asked him what he was going to do. Based on her facial expressions, I'm sure she thought Ragnar brought the axe to kill Floki. I went back and watched it with the closed caption turned on. Ragnar said, "You've suffered enough, Helga". Floki may still be on his shit list. With CC on, some background conversations that are barely audible are brought out. When Ragnar was telling his kids about Thor and the "the boatman", there was a background conversation with some of the Vikings arguing whether or not the ship's sails would have to be replace for the spring raids. It brings out a lot of the dialog that is partially covered by background noise, too. Quoted:
Lagertha humps the younger man who wants her to have his children all the while plotting to assassinate her son. Lagertha can no longer have children. The child she aborted in Season 1 fixed that. I don't know what was in that keg Bjorn found, but it had to be good stuff to have him howling at the Aurora. Nice Auroral display, too. Wished they'd have shown more of it. The scene of Athelstan washing Ragnar's feet could have some interesting implications for future episodes. Ragnar didn't want to punish Floki that much, because he scolded Bjorn for arresting Floki and basically said that it put him in a position to where he had to do something to Floki. Yes, he has been pissed off at Floki, but I don't think that he wanted to take things that far. And I also took the foot washing scene as something profound. It goes back to the part in the Gospels where Jesus washed his Desciples' feet, so the act holds significance in Christianity. It also shows that Athelstan and his faith still has an influence on Ragnar. |
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True. Last season, after Ragnar had buried Athelstan, he asked forgiveness not for what he had done, but for what he was about to do -- I'm assuming to pose as a Christian in order to get into Paris.
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More likely the other way around. He's not that dumb. Gonna be bad ass when he returns http://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?&id=OIP.M337594d75bb415f41aa34cb87b8d9577o0&w=300&h=168&c=0&pid=1.9&rs=0&p=0 View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Lagertha humps the younger man who wants her to have his children all the while plotting to assassinate her son. More likely the other way around. He's not that dumb. Gonna be bad ass when he returns http://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?&id=OIP.M337594d75bb415f41aa34cb87b8d9577o0&w=300&h=168&c=0&pid=1.9&rs=0&p=0 I'm curious to see this as well. I did enjoy the scenes of him fucking around in nature and whooping that bear back to Bear-Valhalla. |
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I hope the Ragnar/Floki thing gets resolved soon. Kinda over that distraction.
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Rollo has the desire to rule, but lacks the patience and cunning. Strong in tactics but weak in strategy, he has a long way to go if he's to acquire the position history dictates. View Quote i don't know that he wants to rule, so much as he wants to be a rock star. i don't see a drive for political power in the guy--just a desire to be considered ragnar's equal. |
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I hope the Ragnar/Floki thing gets resolved soon. Kinda over that distraction. View Quote I don't see how it could be really over..... they were as brothers... Floki was offered a great deal to betray Ragnar by horik & yet stood by Ragnar anyway.... Even if he is free now, I can't see Floki ever going back to that now.... good friends who now are at best strangers.... |
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That berserker that was sent after Bjorn looked like one formidable mofo.
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Rollo has the desire to rule, but lacks the patience and cunning. Strong in tactics but weak in strategy, he has a long way to go if he's to acquire the position history dictates. View Quote i don't know that he wants to rule, so much as he wants to be a rock star. i don't see a drive for political power in the guy--just a desire to be considered ragnar's equal. View Quote Rollo's role is based on Rollo, who eventually became ruler of Normandy. The series is following actual history fairly closely, so it's going to be interesting to see how they play this. Rollo has shown the Francia king a way to upend the Viking ships, so he's definitely got something up his sleeve. |
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Rollo's role is based on Rollo, who eventually became ruler of Normandy. The series is following actual history fairly closely, so it's going to be interesting to see how they play this. Rollo has shown the Francia king a way to upend the Viking ships, so he's definitely got something up his sleeve. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Rollo has the desire to rule, but lacks the patience and cunning. Strong in tactics but weak in strategy, he has a long way to go if he's to acquire the position history dictates. i don't know that he wants to rule, so much as he wants to be a rock star. i don't see a drive for political power in the guy--just a desire to be considered ragnar's equal. Rollo's role is based on Rollo, who eventually became ruler of Normandy. The series is following actual history fairly closely, so it's going to be interesting to see how they play this. Rollo has shown the Francia king a way to upend the Viking ships, so he's definitely got something up his sleeve. i understand that, but i'm looking at the motivation. some aristocrats climb because they have a lust for power over other men, like earl haraldson (gabriel byrne), or kwinthrift. others climb because they want to accomplish something, and they need authority in order to do it (ragnar). still others want to have the biggest house in the neighborhood (ecbert). i don't see these motivations in standen's rollo. instead, i see an insecure guy who wants to win renown. to this point, he has shown no real interest in actually ruling people--almost a disdain for it. instead, he just wants to be recognized as a great warrior, and get the perks of that. given the choice between being caesar and being the greatest gladiator ever, IMO he would choose the latter. |
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Ragnars a Christian now that's why Valhalla is closed to him. He was baptized to be with Athelstan in death but he still used the baptismal to gain entrance into Paris - Ragnar is clearly playing chess and not checkers.
Like Christ washed the Apostles feet first as he had to, Athelstan gave Ragnar a true blessing that would allow him to bless others. Ecbert was shown the sign of the cross but not because his actions were being blessed. Ragnar showed Mercy to Helga, Floki simply benefited from the mercy. The fight to get into the castle last week was a great sequence. |
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