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Link Posted: 2/7/2020 5:18:02 PM EDT
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https://www.reddit.com/r/VAGuns/comments/f0d7ad/list_and_contact_info_of_potential_swing_votes_in/

Delegate Steve Heretick ([email protected] | (804) 698-1079) - He's broken ranks with his party before, and he's fairly moderate overall. He has received no funding from Everytown/Brady, but has been backed by Bob's Gun Shop (major local firearm retailer in Norfolk) in both 2007 and 2018.

Delegate Roslyn Tyler ([email protected] | (804) 698-1075) - To everyone's shock, she voted against all gun control bills that were up for vote in the House last week. She has received no funding from Everytown/Brady, but was backed by the Commonwealth Sportsmen's Alliance in 2019. She narrowly won the election last year by only two percentage points, so she likely recognizes her vulnerability in the 2021 election.

Delegate Lashrecse Aird ([email protected] | (804) 698-1063) - Has received no funding from Everytown/Brady, but was backed by the Commonwealth Sportsmen's Alliance. She only won by a margin of about ten percentage points in 2019, which isn't much considering her opponent was a Independent, and she outspent him 10:1. She could be vulnerable to a strong Republican challenger in 2021.

Delegate Lee Carter ([email protected] | (804) 698-1050) - Previously voted against H.B. 421 (repeals all preemption), H.B. 674 (red flag), and H.B. 812 (one handgun per month) earlier this session. Has also received no funding from Everytown/Brady. He's in a competitive district, and only won by six percentage points in 2019. He may be a strong ally for us.

Delegate Mike Mullin ([email protected] | (804) 698-1093) - Has received no funding from Everytown/Brady, but was backed by the Commonwealth Sportsmen's Alliance in 2017.
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Delegate Mark Sickles ([email protected] | (804) 698-1043) - He received funding from the Brady Campaign way back in 2003, then he was backed by the NSSF in 2014. This is an unlikely one, but it's worth trying.

Delegate Luke Torian ([email protected] | (804) 698-1052) - He has received no funding from Everytown/Brady, but was backed by the NSSF in 2011. The recent redistricting significantly increased the Democrat voters in his district, as it previously leaned Republican. So he might feel safe voting for an AWB, but it's still worth contacting him.

Delegate David Bulova ([email protected] | (804) 698-1037) - He has received no funding from Everytown/Brady, but was backed by the NSSF in 2012 and the Commonwealth Sportsmen's Alliance in 2016. He voted against H.B. 421 earlier this session, so he seems to at least recognize radical bills and not blindly vote for anything his Democrat collegues put in front of him. He could probably be convinced to vote against H.B. 961 if he hasn't decided to do so already.
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I find my distrust, and dislike for cops is coming full circle.

In my late teens and early 20s I pretty much hated them. By the time I was 32 or so that had flipped. Now that I'm 45, the circle is turning again, snd frankly after seeing some things as of late, especially today, I think I'm hitting that fulcrum point again.

I mean I just can't trust or like that. Would they have been so pushy if we were armed? I certainly didn't see any pushing around on the 20th.

I get that there are "some" on our side. But frankly, the more I see, the less I think those numbers are.
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It is because you are beyond the "wild youth" years where "the man" was trying to keep you down.

In your 30's, you were too busy with kids and "life" to get into trouble.
The issue now is that "trouble" is looking for you because of something you legally own.

The guy that owns nothing but "hunting shotguns" still thinks the cops are on his side.   At least until his semi-auto turkey gun because a deadly kid killing machine.
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OWNERS AND MODS NEED TO NUKE/SANITIZE THIS SITE OF ALL VA THREADS.
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Respectfully, I vehemently disagree.

We are not there yet.  We do not need to hide in the shadows.  There is nothing being planned here.  There are no illegal or immoral activities being discussed. The mods are keeping the COC well under control (God bless you, that really does have to be migraine & carpal tunnel inducing).

Let EVERYONE know what is happening here.  We are petitioning our government for the redress of grievances.

There is also no better place than here for the sharing of information, real time news, on the ground live intel and discussions among some incredibly astute folks.

This is also a phenomenal relief valve.  People are fucking pissed.  Personally, I'd rather have people vent here, then lose their shit out in the real world.

All that said, let them see the discord!

If they're watching, and they surely are - let them see it.  Coupled with the BoS's, 2A Sactuaries, Lobby Day, the various hearings and meetings. We are NOT going away and we are NOT being quiet about it. No one is doing anything wrong or underhanded.  In fact, just the opposite.

They cannot undermine our Civil Rights, which are unalienable and divinely bestowed.  Our legislators are mortal, our rights cannot be taken by man.  We simply will not allow it.

We are not a small minority.  Now is not the time to be silent.

Sic Semper Tyrannis
Link Posted: 2/7/2020 5:27:05 PM EDT
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Quoted: Each and every year since 1995, VCDL has been preventing bad bills from passing into law and expanding the scope of liberty, like being able to carry in a restaurant, library, driving onto school property to drop off or pick up your kid, being able to get out of your car on school property(leaving the gun in the car), being able to walk through a park, being able to get an instant temporary carry permit if your local clerk tries to dick with you and delay your approval/renewal, and probably other stuff I'm not thinking of at the moment. I've witnessed this. We have consistently gained ground because of VCDL, sometimes in small steps, other times big steps. Yeah, we may be stuck with this for time being but on the other hand they are stuck with US for the time being. This isn't going away. WE are not going away. Some may throw up their hands and go back to the TV but shit like this only motivates me to do more.
See you guys at the Bloomberg party.
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Well written.
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Out of curiosity, how would the VSP have handled this situation had the crowd been comprised of Sheriff’s deputies?
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There needs to be more than "15 people talking about this"
Link Posted: 2/7/2020 5:38:51 PM EDT
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Depends if they were armed.
Link Posted: 2/7/2020 5:39:05 PM EDT
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Respectfully, I vehemently disagree.

We are not there yet.  We do not need to hide in the shadows.  There is nothing being planned here.  There are no illegal or immoral activities being discussed. The mods are keeping the COC well under control (God bless you, that really does have to be migraine & carpal tunnel inducing).

Let EVERYONE know what is happening here.  We are petitioning our government for the redress of grievances.

There is also no better place than here for the sharing of information, real time news, on the ground live intel and discussions among some incredibly astute folks.

This is also a phenomenal relief valve.  People are fucking pissed.  Personally, I'd rather have people vent here, then lose their shit out in the real world.

All that said, let them see the discord!

If they're watching, and they surely are - let them see it.  Coupled with the BoS's, 2A Sactuaries, Lobby Day, the various hearings and meetings. We are NOT going away and we are NOT being quiet about it. No one is doing anything wrong or underhanded.  In fact, just the opposite.

They cannot undermine our Civil Rights, which are unalienable and divinely bestowed.  Our legislators are mortal, our rights cannot be taken by man.  We simply will not allow it.

We are not a small minority.  Now is not the time to be silent.

Sic Semper Tyrannis
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It's your right to disagree. But I wonder how much you'll disagree when the knock on the door comes at 3am as you get red flagged...and you come to discover your posts here on arfcom (which you think are basically innocuous) are framed by the "authorities" as seditious and dangerous, and used as "proof" against you as these red flag laws become weaponized. Which they surely will.
Link Posted: 2/7/2020 5:39:13 PM EDT
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@Mrgunsngear just posted my video. Good to spread it

Virginia Police Force Residents Out Of Committee Hearing
Link Posted: 2/7/2020 5:39:18 PM EDT
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So is this the last time they cross the line, or are we going to redraw it for the 100th “last time” ?
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I see the edgy shitlords are getting an early start this morning.
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I have a good idea. Why don't you guys have another rally where you willingly disarm yourselves on the illegal order of a tyrant? And then voluntarily walk into a cage being over-watched by government snipers. I'm sure they'll change their mind this time.
I see the edgy shitlords are getting an early start this morning.
Indeed...

I have a better idea 4 him...
and his words were angering

If you're not part of the solution,
you r part of the problem.

Men r talking.
Let them.

Post less,read more.
Indeed,never post again in a VA thread.

He doesn't comprehend what actually happened on Lobby Day.

Yes,some went in the Cage.
But many MANY more stood watch over their brothers and sisters outside.

Ideally he will never return and the rest is COC non-compliant.
Link Posted: 2/7/2020 5:40:39 PM EDT
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What's your plan?  Gonna lead from the front?
Link Posted: 2/7/2020 5:46:08 PM EDT
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That's a leftist response. Name call somebody because you can't handle the truth. All the rally did was show the democrats that gun owners will comply with any ridiculous law they conjure up. Evidence them continuing to pass unconstitutional gun laws.
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Oh my god boy,
how old r you?

You don't pay attention well.

you have no clue

AND "Click"
Link Posted: 2/7/2020 5:48:18 PM EDT
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Can the state tell you that mags over 12 rounds are no longer legal and must leave the state?  If you brought it legally I can't see how they can do it.  I know theres been court cases on this but I cant seem to find them
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Looks like Commies trust them

ETA: commies aren’t people, so I guess you’re correct
Link Posted: 2/7/2020 5:52:00 PM EDT
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OWNERS AND MODS NEED TO NUKE/SANITIZE THIS SITE OF ALL VA THREADS.
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Lol, that's not how the internet works, friend
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If the gun is manufactured after that date they can find out via serial number.
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Magazines over 12 rounds banned.  Floorplate issue removed.  Silencers can be kept, but you need your threaded barrel weapons purchased before July1.  No registration requirement.  Grandfather banned weapons.

Still total horseshit and unacceptable.

ETA banned mags over 12 rounds must leave the state, for those that would comply.
How does that shit work?
I mean you can buy a threaded glock or M&P barrel in fucking NC or TN or WVa, how the fuck can they prove you didn't have it before July 1st, 2020?
Fucking assholes.
If the gun is manufactured after that date they can find out via serial number.
Better yet, the VSP could do sting operations like they do in CA.  Plain clothes troopers or paid informants could watch at gun stores just over the border and call in the car description, license plate, and description of the drivers and passengers and uniform troopers could pull them over just after they cross the line back into VA.

I wish you people in VA the best of luck with this mess.  I think we will see this on the national level the next time the socialists are in the majority in both houses of Congress and in the White House.
Link Posted: 2/7/2020 5:55:19 PM EDT
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RBG needs to go and then run this shit to the supreme court.
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I absolutely love how gun owners shit on other gun owners.
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There are gun owners, and then there are “gun owners”.
Link Posted: 2/7/2020 6:06:46 PM EDT
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Can the state tell you that mags over 12 rounds are no longer legal and must leave the state?  If you brought it legally I can't see how they can do it.  I know theres been court cases on this but I cant seem to find them
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The federal government did that to bump stocks.

Destroy them or become a felon.

The courts have sided with the government on that.
Link Posted: 2/7/2020 6:09:30 PM EDT
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So is this the last time they cross the line, or are we going to redraw it for the 100th “last time” ?
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Post something helpful.
Link Posted: 2/7/2020 6:13:10 PM EDT
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It's your right to disagree. But I wonder how much you'll disagree when the knock on the door comes at 3am as you get red flagged...and you come to discover your posts here on arfcom (which you think are basically innocuous) are framed by the "authorities" as seditious and dangerous, and used as "proof" against you as these red flag laws become weaponized. Which they surely will.
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Respectfully, I vehemently disagree.

We are not there yet.  We do not need to hide in the shadows.  There is nothing being planned here.  There are no illegal or immoral activities being discussed. The mods are keeping the COC well under control (God bless you, that really does have to be migraine & carpal tunnel inducing).

Let EVERYONE know what is happening here.  We are petitioning our government for the redress of grievances.

There is also no better place than here for the sharing of information, real time news, on the ground live intel and discussions among some incredibly astute folks.

This is also a phenomenal relief valve.  People are fucking pissed.  Personally, I'd rather have people vent here, then lose their shit out in the real world.

All that said, let them see the discord!

If they're watching, and they surely are - let them see it.  Coupled with the BoS's, 2A Sactuaries, Lobby Day, the various hearings and meetings. We are NOT going away and we are NOT being quiet about it. No one is doing anything wrong or underhanded.  In fact, just the opposite.

They cannot undermine our Civil Rights, which are unalienable and divinely bestowed.  Our legislators are mortal, our rights cannot be taken by man.  We simply will not allow it.

We are not a small minority.  Now is not the time to be silent.

Sic Semper Tyrannis
It's your right to disagree. But I wonder how much you'll disagree when the knock on the door comes at 3am as you get red flagged...and you come to discover your posts here on arfcom (which you think are basically innocuous) are framed by the "authorities" as seditious and dangerous, and used as "proof" against you as these red flag laws become weaponized. Which they surely will.
Bullshit.

Some of you guys act like the happenings in VA are a new phenomenon.  Millions of us have been dealing with this shit for decades.

You don't need to hide in fear.  Name one person that has ever been "red flagged" for something they said on here.  If anything, there needs to be more open discussion not less.  Civil disobedience is how you win these battles.
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Can the state tell you that mags over 12 rounds are no longer legal and must leave the state?  If you brought it legally I can't see how they can do it.  I know theres been court cases on this but I cant seem to find them
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New York, New Jersey, and Hawaii did it.
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The Supreme Court of Virginia has a conservative majority, and they are the final word on any claims made under the state constitutional guarantee.
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Aside from magazine capacity does this affect new sales of semi-automatic handguns? Say a new glock 17 after July 1st?

Assuming it passes as it is written.
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I thought so.  Did they have to be removed?  I thought a court said they could stay but can only be loaded to 10 rds
Link Posted: 2/7/2020 6:39:11 PM EDT
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Yep, https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/503720/Capture3_JPG-1267260.JPGLiterally
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/503720/Capture4_JPG-1267262.JPG

(screenshots from vid courtesy of @Riflenoob, who was there in person representing us all)
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There is a LINE  betwitx that is not very nice

looks like johnny means business and wants to boog.

This hole horsecrap shebangy is intollerable and CoC
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I love how everyone still think the police are your friends ,30 seconds or be arrested doesn't sound like a friend?
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Well said Sir
Aye,
Amen
Si vis Pacem
Link Posted: 2/7/2020 6:51:56 PM EDT
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I am sure trump can help the gun owners of VA.
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So they pass anti guns laws, then immediately hide behind men with guns? Did I get that right?
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Yep. And they also send those same men with guns to take yours. If you resist, you will be shot and killed by those men with guns because you didn't give up yours in the name of reducing gun violence.
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So whose line was “they had better not pass one bill out of committee!!!”...?
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Yep. And they also send those same men with guns to take yours. If you resist, you will be shot and killed by those men with guns because you didn't give up yours in the name of reducing gun violence.
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Logic.
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Well, that answers that question.
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What good would that have done?
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Wow! So the VSP jumped straight to Brown Shirt status, kicking people out of the peoples house watching the peoples business being done by the peoples "representatives".

Good luck VA!
And not a single person stood up and said, "I will not comply"
What good would that have done?
If there were 100-200 people in that room, perhaps enough to show up on CBS Evening News.

We'll never know now.
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Reality isn't helpful? It should be.
Link Posted: 2/7/2020 7:15:46 PM EDT
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Seems Familiar..
Hughe's Ammendment Fraud (Machine Gun Ban)
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I thought so.  Did they have to be removed?  I thought a court said they could stay but can only be loaded to 10 rds
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I thought so.  Did they have to be removed?  I thought a court said they could stay but can only be loaded to 10 rds
No you might be thinking of the 7rd thing when NY tried to go down to 7rds but allowed possession of 10 if you only loaded 7rd.

It is illegal to possess a 10+ mag in NY, NJ, and 10+ pistol mags in Hawaii. Period. No grandfathering.
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Interesting.
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Nothing good will come of this. Stand strong, VA brothers and sisters.
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Amen.
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Can the state tell you that mags over 12 rounds are no longer legal and must leave the state?  If you brought it legally I can't see how they can do it.  I know theres been court cases on this but I cant seem to find them
New York, New Jersey, and Hawaii did it.
FWIW, there are a variety of ways a state can ban items previously legally purchased.  But it's usually done in a way that it doesn't run afoul of the "takings" aspects of the law.  And not sure about other states but it's been fought in court in California.  California grandfathered them, allowing people to keep the ones they had but banning new acquisitions, etc.  The pols then tried by bill and initiative to lift the grandfathering.  The  case for/against the grandfathering, Duncan v. Becerra, was heard by The Honorable Roger Thomas Benitez, a Senior United States District Judge of the United States District Court for the Southern District of California.  He not only found for the grandfathering but essentially held that any restriction on magazines was unconstitutional.  In about a week, essentially every available magazine over 10 rounds in capacity arrived in California.  His ruling is on hold now as it continues through the federal court system.  His ruling masterfully attacked not only magazine laws but set up major constitutional issues that could positively (or negatively depending on your side) impact a wide range of firearms laws.  It's pushing it's way through the 9th Circuit, being watched closely by a wide range of interested parties.
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When these bills pass the best thing possible would be for Virginia members to go radio silent and Goatboy to nuke all of the current and archived Virginia threads from orbit.
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Did you really think that would have any impact on the outcome? Seriously.
A month ago I was pointing out in other VA  threads that NYS counties were passing anti SAFE resolutions and it had absolutely no impact on the outcome. I was basically told that VA would be different. In the end there is no difference. Your rural low population counties are having state law dictated to you by a handful of high population urban counties whose residents probably think of their country cousins as embarrassing hicks. Same as NYS
I figure that you would have enjoyed being with the VSP on the "riot line". That's the way you usually roll.....But enough of you.

To my fellow Virginians:

I think that Virginians (if the hammer falls and the Bill is signed into law) need to keep their own council and not communicate any 2A goings-on (legal or extralegal) with those who you do not trust....Much less here on this site as many members here are not our friends and will dime us out in a heartbeat.  
Too late. My mistake in actually trying to argue or win people to our side. My wife's family is strongly anti gun and democrat Catholics through and through. I'm just curious to which one will nark on me first.
I see reading comprehension is not your strong suit.  

We are at the talking/persuading stage now.....That's over if/when the bill is signed into law and Virginians have to move forward with other efforts both legal and perhaps extralegal. I'm just saying to choose your confidants wisely going forward.

To that end some random chest-beater trying to egg you on here on this site might not be the best person to confide in nor divulge any of your plans to. As far as those types go they can eat static as I won't be baited.
When these bills pass the best thing possible would be for Virginia members to go radio silent and Goatboy to nuke all of the current and archived Virginia threads from orbit.
I've made it abundantly clear not just here but everywhere the topic gets raised in my "real life" that not only will I not comply but I will continue to use my newly banned weapons at the range, in my holster, wherever and whatever I so choose because it is my God given right. They don't like it? Too damn bad. I intend to be very, very public about my non-compliance and hope others join me. And, I don't give a hoot in hell who reads me saying so.
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FWIW, there are a variety of ways a state can ban items previously legally purchased.  But it's usually done in a way that it doesn't run afoul of the "takings" aspects of the law.  And not sure about other states but it's been fought in court in California.  California grandfathered them, allowing people to keep the ones they had but banning new acquisitions, etc.  The pols then tried by bill and initiative to lift the grandfathering.  The  case for/against the grandfathering, Duncan v. Becerra, was heard by The Honorable Roger Thomas Benitez, a Senior United States District Judge of the United States District Court for the Southern District of California.  He not only found for the grandfathering but essentially held that any restriction on magazines was unconstitutional.  In about a week, essentially every available magazine over 10 rounds in capacity arrived in California.  His ruling is on hold now as it continues through the federal court system.  His ruling masterfully attacked not only magazine laws but set up major constitutional issues that could positively (or negatively depending on your side) impact a wide range of firearms laws.  It's pushing it's way through the 9th Circuit, being watched closely by a wide range of interested parties.
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This is what I was thinking of  thank you
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Bullshit.

Some of you guys act like the happenings in VA are a new phenomenon.  Millions of us have been dealing with this shit for decades.

You don't need to hide in fear.  Name one person that has ever been "red flagged" for something they said on here.  If anything, there needs to be more open discussion not less.  Civil disobedience is how you win these battles.
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Seriously? FFS...prove that online forum activity HASN'T ever been used against a person in court.
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FWIW, there are a variety of ways a state can ban items previously legally purchased.  But it's usually done in a way that it doesn't run afoul of the "takings" aspects of the law.  And not sure about other states but it's been fought in court in California.  California grandfathered them, allowing people to keep the ones they had but banning new acquisitions, etc.  The pols then tried by bill and initiative to lift the grandfathering.  The  case for/against the grandfathering, Duncan v. Becerra, was heard by The Honorable Roger Thomas Benitez, a Senior United States District Judge of the United States District Court for the Southern District of California.  He not only found for the grandfathering but essentially held that any restriction on magazines was unconstitutional.  In about a week, essentially every available magazine over 10 rounds in capacity arrived in California.  His ruling is on hold now as it continues through the federal court system.  His ruling masterfully attacked not only magazine laws but set up major constitutional issues that could positively (or negatively depending on your side) impact a wide range of firearms laws.  It's pushing it's way through the 9th Circuit, being watched closely by a wide range of interested parties.
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Can the state tell you that mags over 12 rounds are no longer legal and must leave the state?  If you brought it legally I can't see how they can do it.  I know theres been court cases on this but I cant seem to find them
New York, New Jersey, and Hawaii did it.
FWIW, there are a variety of ways a state can ban items previously legally purchased.  But it's usually done in a way that it doesn't run afoul of the "takings" aspects of the law.  And not sure about other states but it's been fought in court in California.  California grandfathered them, allowing people to keep the ones they had but banning new acquisitions, etc.  The pols then tried by bill and initiative to lift the grandfathering.  The  case for/against the grandfathering, Duncan v. Becerra, was heard by The Honorable Roger Thomas Benitez, a Senior United States District Judge of the United States District Court for the Southern District of California.  He not only found for the grandfathering but essentially held that any restriction on magazines was unconstitutional.  In about a week, essentially every available magazine over 10 rounds in capacity arrived in California.  His ruling is on hold now as it continues through the federal court system.  His ruling masterfully attacked not only magazine laws but set up major constitutional issues that could positively (or negatively depending on your side) impact a wide range of firearms laws.  It's pushing it's way through the 9th Circuit, being watched closely by a wide range of interested parties.
I am familiar with all that which is why I did not list CA with NY,NJ, and HI.

But the mags are banned in those states a felony to possess in NJ, and HI and a misdemeanor in NY if pre 94 mags and a felony if post 94 I believe.
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Virginia isn’t going to actively enforce it.  They will put it on the books and call it a win, just like CA, CT, NY, NJ, MD.  They will ignore the 4-5% compliance rate.  A few incidental arrests will occur.  Then the next shooting will have them pushing registration.

Then they will send letters demanding surrender of firearms or successively larger fines after the next big shooting after that.

There will NEVER be mass enforcement.  Confiscation by cop won’t happen.

They will bleed you dry with fines, liens against your house, and garnishing wages.  Registration is the death knell.
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I could give a shit about fines. But what happens when I use a G19 out on the street? I'm screwed, right?
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