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For you Fairfax County ARFCOMers: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/324743/AC268BD8-0EDE-481C-A209-162CC910DD3A-1211859.jpg Incoming Va. House speaker says Democrats are considering a Capitol gun ban for 2020 session |
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Why? That douche is no friend, under any circumstance. He's the patron of one of these intolerable bills. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Friends in strange places? I kind of want to talk to this guy now.... https://scontent.forf1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/80729907_10151271593609980_8762698341516574720_n.jpg?_nc_cat=102&_nc_eui2=AeEt7jXjQggo4c-xnvFHK4jYHYQrkUJ_Tz2jn3Nu4vJIZY5AfIBCrz8hvid7MwKZx80ai7xS_w_7PhEHK8JAysnXHX37n4C8OYfjVx6KJSv2gw&_nc_oc=AQmOTcayrsJRYeC6Lq64uNK_aVjnjCimjOKl4hbfujxim4TN7ANaUk-naxzAt-Yhkk4&_nc_ht=scontent.forf1-2.fna&oh=63050313442ce51b1f9fa14544fa2659&oe=5E719B0F I like it; sounds... familiar |
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That's fair enough. In short, if they want to help us, they have to set aside all their baggage for the day. Might be tough for them to do. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted: I 100% get that and would agree completely if it weren’t specifically Antifa. My concern and consternation is not that we don’t share ideologies - acceptance and defense of differing viewpoints, opinions, beliefs and outlooks is pretty much a huge part of being an American (also, life would be pretty boring otherwise). it’s all well and good to stand together and fight for the 2A. The problem I have with it is when Antifa starts doing Antifa shit. They undoubtedly will. I don’t think being associated with masked bike lock throwing hooligans that look for and have a documented history of taking any opportunity to start shit would be beneficial to the cause. We’d be painted as fringe right along with them and the message we are trying to send would be tarnished. |
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That's an interesting idea. Clear out all of the ATMs. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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Probably they will paint the patriots out to be fringe regardless of their association with Antifa. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted: it’s all well and good to stand together and fight for the 2A. The problem I have with it is when Antifa starts doing Antifa shit. They undoubtedly will. I don’t think being associated with masked bike lock throwing hooligans that look for and have a documented history of taking any opportunity to start shit would be beneficial to the cause. We’d be painted as fringe right along with them and the message we are trying to send would be tarnished. |
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As a minimum, he needs to fire whatever staff person advised him to advance that bill. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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That cock polisher needs primaried as a lesson and warning to others. |
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That's fair enough. In short, if they want to help us, they have to set aside all their baggage for the day. Might be tough for them to do. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted: I 100% get that and would agree completely if it weren’t specifically Antifa. My concern and consternation is not that we don’t share ideologies - acceptance and defense of differing viewpoints, opinions, beliefs and outlooks is pretty much a huge part of being an American (also, life would be pretty boring otherwise). it’s all well and good to stand together and fight for the 2A. The problem I have with it is when Antifa starts doing Antifa shit. They undoubtedly will. I don’t think being associated with masked bike lock throwing hooligans that look for and have a documented history of taking any opportunity to start shit would be beneficial to the cause. We’d be painted as fringe right along with them and the message we are trying to send would be tarnished. |
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@Undefined Incoming Va. House speaker says Democrats are considering a Capitol gun ban for 2020 session View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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For you Fairfax County ARFCOMers: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/324743/AC268BD8-0EDE-481C-A209-162CC910DD3A-1211859.jpg Incoming Va. House speaker says Democrats are considering a Capitol gun ban for 2020 session |
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Not the greatest OPSEC, for those who value such things...but what the hell, we're all on a 'sedition watch list' already, so fuck it all View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Everyone that comes in from out of town should grab cash while in the city. I think a couple mil in cash leaving the city over the weekend would send a message. |
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How many people does it take to pull that maneuver? Sounds like a minimum of a dozen or more, preferably 20. And it would depend on an open field, no solid lines, yes? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Basically the de-arrest part happens after a few hours of teaching a mass of people to move in unison and under direction, and it essentially involves mobbing people in front of the target as blockers while folks around/behind grab the limbs and trunk and almost crowdsurf the target deeper into the pack; after a bit of training it becomes rather smooth, and as well as obvious to the more discerning that it’s a technique with many different applications. They presented it as a way to protect activists from violent skinheads, but the instructors were very clearly modeling LE snatch teams. Lefties unfortunately rarely have a problem turning out numbers, and that’s because they have built the infrastructure and organization to do it. I don’t think it needs an open field as much as an ability to keep a pack of folks in close proximity. |
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For you Fairfax County ARFCOMers: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/324743/AC268BD8-0EDE-481C-A209-162CC910DD3A-1211859.jpg View Quote I am unfortunately out of state... |
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Well, what the hell is the point of the 20th then? Why not do the rally on the 4th or 5th since those are weekend days? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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How many people does it take to pull that maneuver? Sounds like a minimum of a dozen or more, preferably 20. And it would depend on an open field, no solid lines, yes? View Quote |
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Would someone please go to this? Preferably someone articulate enough to convey the severity of the consequences of their intended actions without coming off as a straight loon? I am unfortunately out of state... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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@ben Guys I don’t remember which thread it came up, but someone mentioned buying pocket constitutions and I volunteered to purchase them. Well 200 arrived today. I can start distributing bundles to folks here in NOVA, then they can distribute to more people at Richmond. I’m open to suggestions. Maybe we send one to each of the commie delegates and highlight sections they don’t get. What do y’all want to do? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/289253/E78A3998-B996-460D-8CA4-B2BD37E9ABF8-1212057.jpg View Quote |
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@ben Guys I don’t remember which thread it came up, but someone mentioned buying pocket constitutions and I volunteered to purchase them. Well 200 arrived today. I can start distributing bundles to folks here in NOVA, then they can distribute to more people at Richmond. I’m open to suggestions. Maybe we send one to each of the commie delegates and highlight sections they don’t get. What do y’all want to do? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/289253/E78A3998-B996-460D-8CA4-B2BD37E9ABF8-1212057.jpg View Quote Would there be interest in small American and Virginia flags as well? Something like 4”x6” versions of these to hand out? Attached File Attached File |
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That is fantastic! Would there be interest in small American and Virginia flags as well? Something like 4”x6” versions of these to hand out? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/503720/FC835016-7A7D-40B6-927A-A6D61236B499_jpeg-1212179.JPGhttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/503720/0D93C6A9-F384-4FF9-937F-779FCF1AA3EE_jpeg-1212185.JPG View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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@ben Guys I don’t remember which thread it came up, but someone mentioned buying pocket constitutions and I volunteered to purchase them. Well 200 arrived today. I can start distributing bundles to folks here in NOVA, then they can distribute to more people at Richmond. I’m open to suggestions. Maybe we send one to each of the commie delegates and highlight sections they don’t get. What do y’all want to do? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/289253/E78A3998-B996-460D-8CA4-B2BD37E9ABF8-1212057.jpg Would there be interest in small American and Virginia flags as well? Something like 4”x6” versions of these to hand out? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/503720/FC835016-7A7D-40B6-927A-A6D61236B499_jpeg-1212179.JPGhttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/503720/0D93C6A9-F384-4FF9-937F-779FCF1AA3EE_jpeg-1212185.JPG VA and Gadsden would be nice. One on each side lol. |
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Not sure if this would work, but how about M/O's, postal M/O's, and/or bank checks made out to yourself, and raid banks and P-O's. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Everyone that comes in from out of town should grab cash while in the city. I think a couple mil in cash leaving the city over the weekend would send a message. I have a funny story about cashing postal MO's; I once bought a ~900$ MO to pay for a gun item using my debit card, minutes later the seller flaked on me while I was still in the parking lot. I found that the USPS was unable to cash the MO they had just sold me, due to only having like 200$ in cash on hand and no way to access electronic funds (not sure why the cashier told me all this, but whatever). A true microcosm of federal fiscal policy Guys, do be careful when considering stuff like this; orchestrating a bank or ATM-run is likely considered terrorism, or at the very least probably violates some FTC felony somewhere. To think that the FBI/etc won't follow up with the participants afterward when the evidence is there, is a poor plan. I will avoid taking my car or cellphone to Virginny for that reason; I have no plans to make trouble or participate in trouble, but I also don't want feds sniffing around my back door simply because I left them a trail of bread crumbs to follow. Orchestrating a mass-outage of Mountain Dew or peanut M&Ms would be a lot less risky, and a lot more tasty |
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That is fantastic! Would there be interest in small American and Virginia flags as well? Something like 4"x6" versions of these to hand out? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/503720/FC835016-7A7D-40B6-927A-A6D61236B499_jpeg-1212179.JPGhttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/503720/0D93C6A9-F384-4FF9-937F-779FCF1AA3EE_jpeg-1212185.JPG View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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@ben Guys I don't remember which thread it came up, but someone mentioned buying pocket constitutions and I volunteered to purchase them. Well 200 arrived today. I can start distributing bundles to folks here in NOVA, then they can distribute to more people at Richmond. I'm open to suggestions. Maybe we send one to each of the commie delegates and highlight sections they don't get. What do y'all want to do? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/289253/E78A3998-B996-460D-8CA4-B2BD37E9ABF8-1212057.jpg Would there be interest in small American and Virginia flags as well? Something like 4"x6" versions of these to hand out? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/503720/FC835016-7A7D-40B6-927A-A6D61236B499_jpeg-1212179.JPGhttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/503720/0D93C6A9-F384-4FF9-937F-779FCF1AA3EE_jpeg-1212185.JPG |
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@ben Guys I don’t remember which thread it came up, but someone mentioned buying pocket constitutions and I volunteered to purchase them. Well 200 arrived today. I can start distributing bundles to folks here in NOVA, then they can distribute to more people at Richmond. I’m open to suggestions. Maybe we send one to each of the commie delegates and highlight sections they don’t get. What do y’all want to do? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/289253/E78A3998-B996-460D-8CA4-B2BD37E9ABF8-1212057.jpg View Quote Business cards (sanitized ones with a protonmail email address, naturally) are also a really good idea for quickly exchanging contact info. |
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Please excuse my dumb question but now I'm a bit confused. If 91% of Virginia counties all telling the capitol to stick it, HTF did Va get a Dem controlled gov't?
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One county can change federal elections but it should not be the case in state gov't. It's not that way in Tenn at least. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Please excuse my dumb question but now I'm a bit confused. If 91% of Virginia counties all telling the capitol to stick it, HTF did Va get a Dem controlled gov't? Our cities are heavily populated and heavily democrat, yet our legislature is roughly 5:1 R:D in the senate and 3:1 R:D in the house. |
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I was wondering about that as well. Our cities are heavily populated and heavily democrat, yet our legislature is roughly 5:1 R:D in the senate and 3:1 R:D in the house. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Please excuse my dumb question but now I'm a bit confused. If 91% of Virginia counties all telling the capitol to stick it, HTF did Va get a Dem controlled gov't? Our cities are heavily populated and heavily democrat, yet our legislature is roughly 5:1 R:D in the senate and 3:1 R:D in the house. I'll stop because I don't want to derail this thread but I'm truly curious if someone knows the answer. Memphis and Nashville would dominate our state but are in fact in the minority in our state legislature. |
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Was reading an article yesterday where a WW2 vet that died in 2014 was just registered to vote in Va. Must be some shenanigans going on in that state. I'll stop because I don't want to derail this thread but I'm truly curious if someone knows the answer. Memphis and Nashville would dominate our state but are in fact in the minority in our state legislature. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Please excuse my dumb question but now I'm a bit confused. If 91% of Virginia counties all telling the capitol to stick it, HTF did Va get a Dem controlled gov't? Our cities are heavily populated and heavily democrat, yet our legislature is roughly 5:1 R:D in the senate and 3:1 R:D in the house. I'll stop because I don't want to derail this thread but I'm truly curious if someone knows the answer. Memphis and Nashville would dominate our state but are in fact in the minority in our state legislature. |
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@ben Guys I don’t remember which thread it came up, but someone mentioned buying pocket constitutions and I volunteered to purchase them. Well 200 arrived today. I can start distributing bundles to folks here in NOVA, then they can distribute to more people at Richmond. I’m open to suggestions. Maybe we send one to each of the commie delegates and highlight sections they don’t get. What do y’all want to do? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/289253/E78A3998-B996-460D-8CA4-B2BD37E9ABF8-1212057.jpg View Quote As it should be. |
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Remember what another Virginian said a long time ago.....
"The strongest reason for people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government" - T. Jefferson |
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Maybe if multiple rallies were to occur on the 20th. One big one at the Capitol, lots of smaller but equally serious ones at certain delegates' and senators' houses. That would lead to some interesting texts/phone calls from wives etc in the middle of everything going on downtown. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted: This. Very much this. Too many people make empty threats. It is not until they did out that they and their loved ones REALLY ARE in grace danger that they smarten up. The real question is not how many people show up but how far Virginians are REALLY willing to go. The truth is that what it will take in the long run is complete and total fear on the part of our elected official to the point where they fear for their very lives and the lives of their loved ones if they even bring the subject up. Actually this really is an interesting idea. 50 or so armed people outside their home while their spouse in in Richmond will at least let them understand that this isn't business. It's personal. |
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Sadly enough, it is most likely going to take more than this to make this bullshit go away for any length of time. The truth is that what it will take in the long run is complete and total fear on the part of our elected official to the point where they fear for their very lives and the lives of their loved ones if they even bring the subject up. Actually this really is an interesting idea. 50 or so armed people outside their home while their spouse in in Richmond will at least let them understand that this isn't business. It's personal. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Was reading an article yesterday where a WW2 vet that died in 2014 was just registered to vote in Va. Must be some shenanigans going on in that state. Sooner or later shit like this will get out and it will get to the point where no matter who wins the people will consider the elections to be illegitimate, period. As for Hillary actually winning the LEGITIMATE popular vote I seriously question that. I wonder how many dead people, illegals and other non citizens were counted. A lot more than you would ever know. Obama himself said in 2016 to illegals and non citizens that nobody would do anything to an illegal, what have you that voted. This was a serving president trying to undermine a legitimate election. He should have been hauled out and beaten by an angry mob for that. The whole system is rotten dirty and needs a complete overhaul. |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrNWiTLYr9E Constitutional audit needs to take place. All unconstitutional laws need to be stricken, and those who put them in place, dealt with harshly. Our courts operate on a case by case basis. A party with 'standing' (can show damages) must bring the case forward. Power always corrupts, & absolute power corrupts absolutely. Over & over again. |
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