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Link Posted: 10/22/2019 8:18:25 AM EST
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It's gonna be LEGENDARY!!!
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I initially liked the idea of cleaning up GD because I assumed it meant focusing on full time trolls/site disrupters. I thought that would be a good idea especially with the election ramping up.
I can't wait for election season.
It's gonna be LEGENDARY!!!
Truth be told I expect it to less troubling than the last go-round what with no GOP primary.

The Dems are going to do what they do in regard to their primary and then it will be that "winner" against Trump.

The bulk of the under_scores have been purged so what is there to really argue about?
Link Posted: 10/22/2019 8:19:15 AM EST
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That's what the felon supporters did when that guy was forgotten about on Rikers.
Thanks again NYC for screwing up the rest of the state

recidivist criminals need to be locked up. They cause the majority of the crime.
If you're out on bail and are arrested for more criminal activity, you need to have your original bail rescinded and locked up until at least one of your cases is adjudicated.
Not keep committing offenses and then have every charge rolled up into a pela deal where you plea to a single charge in satisfaction of a dozen charges. Which is what's happening now, and it'll only get worse in January when no one will be remanded to jail unless they commit one of a handful of serious felonies
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You still don't get it.

Have you ever taken a step back and looked critically at a law and said "Why is this activity criminalized?"  and realized that we have many, many things in this nation that are a crime for no reason other than because the legislature said so.

The mag law in Colorado is an example of this.

ETA:  I don't really expect you to "get it" TC, just responding and using your post as a foil.
Link Posted: 10/22/2019 8:27:39 AM EST
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Link Posted: 10/22/2019 9:06:10 AM EST
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You guys would never make me a mod....this is me moderating GD.
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If the staff really cares about this site, they need to get new mods...
You volunteering?
Maybe he's a sMert as you. You turned the gig down to 10 seconds flat recently, didn't you?
You guys would never make me a mod....this is me moderating GD.
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Lol, me too
Link Posted: 10/22/2019 9:06:51 AM EST
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I'll give TC the benefit of the doubt.  He didn't address "why is this activity criminalized" because that wasn't the question posed.  So I'm not going to assume what his position is on that.  Having said that, I do agree with you that there are a number of malum prohibitum crimes that should be rethought.

He's probably right about recidivists, the guys who just refuse to stop committing crimes.  Although, I cannot help but think that prison isn't much of a deterrent today unless it's a LONG stretch, and most of them don't think in terms of long-term consequences for their actions.  Jail and short prison stretches do more to establish networks, give street cred, and serve as finishing schools than actually punish, deter, or rehabilitate.

I'm more of the mindset of going back to throwing people in the stocks or giving them lashes in teh public square.  10 lashes for first DUI would probably cut down on that shit dramatically.
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I agree with most of what you said.  I see nothing wrong with corporal punishment, as long as the severity fits the crime and the punishment is done in public.  Not for voyeuristic reasons or to "make an example", but to hold everyone accountable - the criminal, the punisher (government) and the community.

There can be a bit of the chicken and the egg thing with recidivists.  Some dude goes to the county lockup for a short stretch for a malum prohibitum crime and becomes acquainted with real criminals.  That same jail stretch can cause them to lose employment, etc - resulting in a compounding of issues.

Hell, you can probably eliminate 50% of the jail population in my county by reducing inane malum prohibitum laws.

The amount of guys who actually commit serious crimes and are recidivists is actually pretty low, and their ID's are pretty constant.  My Dad was a deputy in the early 80's and then became one again after about 20 years off in the early 2000's.  It blew his mind that he was arresting the same 10 guys in 2004 as he did in 1984.  The only difference is he was arresting their sons and daughters too.
Link Posted: 10/22/2019 9:07:15 AM EST
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Yeah but that's how it should be moderated.
I'd last a week.
Complaint: XXXX told me to suck a dick.

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Now, that is my style of mod.
Link Posted: 10/22/2019 9:08:07 AM EST
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Truth be told I expect it to less troubling than the last go-round what with no GOP primary.

The Dems are going to do what they do in regard to their primary and then it will be that "winner" against Trump.

The bulk of the under_scores have been purged so what is there to really argue about?
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You and I have a gentleman's bet on this one!!!!

The general election will be like no other in Arfcom history...………..

Link Posted: 10/22/2019 9:09:47 AM EST
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I'll give TC the benefit of the doubt.  He didn't address "why is this activity criminalized" because that wasn't the question posed.  So I'm not going to assume what his position is on that.  Having said that, I do agree with you that there are a number of malum prohibitum crimes that should be rethought.

He's probably right about recidivists, the guys who just refuse to stop committing crimes.  Although, I cannot help but think that prison isn't much of a deterrent today unless it's a LONG stretch, and most of them don't think in terms of long-term consequences for their actions.  Jail and short prison stretches do more to establish networks, give street cred, and serve as finishing schools than actually punish, deter, or rehabilitate.

I'm more of the mindset of going back to throwing people in the stocks or giving them lashes in teh public square.  10 lashes for first DUI would probably cut down on that shit dramatically.
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The biggest issues that exist with policing in America would disappear if we stopped expecting police to do so much and let them focus on manum in se issues.
Link Posted: 10/22/2019 9:10:00 AM EST
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Holy shit.  This ought to be a wake up call.  This is a site for gun owners.  Liberals hate gun owners, but they hate cops too.  If you're seeing a cop hater behind every bush you need think about where your head is.  Fuck me could there be any better illustration of what's wrong here?  
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I appreciate your honesty.

Holy shit.  This ought to be a wake up call.  This is a site for gun owners.  Liberals hate gun owners, but they hate cops too.  If you're seeing a cop hater behind every bush you need think about where your head is.  Fuck me could there be any better illustration of what's wrong here?  
[Statefarm]Did we just have a breakthrough moment?[statefarm]
Link Posted: 10/22/2019 9:11:00 AM EST
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OP requested it locked.  No conspiracy on that.
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so I went to participate in the poll a mod or SS said for someone to create about mod suppory and its locked  wtf..
OP requested it locked.  No conspiracy on that.
While id rather it stay open, it was open for 48 hours.
Link Posted: 10/22/2019 9:11:43 AM EST
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You said in your post "Liberals hate cops too", implying that you hate cops.

He is thanking you for your honesty admitting that you hate cops, I am guessing he is a cop.

Only reason I think he is a cop is because only cops care if you hate cops.
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You'll get no argument from me, it speaks for itself.  I tried to see both sides of this but wow.
You said in your post "Liberals hate cops too", implying that you hate cops.

He is thanking you for your honesty admitting that you hate cops, I am guessing he is a cop.

Only reason I think he is a cop is because only cops care if you hate cops.
 i dont think harry stone is a liberal
Link Posted: 10/22/2019 9:14:27 AM EST
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3rd party editorial time:

American conservatives fucked up bigly when they felt the need to go all law and order to protect themselves from drug using minorities. It was an  understandable overreaction but a tragic one. Rather than looking at the roots of many issues,which  would have required introspection and a degree of self-blame,they decided that cops and prisons would scare the people who frightened them into behaving properly. In reality it made the situation worse,cost a huge amount of money and made police into something they should not have been.

They created this idea that cops were the only thing standing between good and chaos and,humans being humans,cops adopted being warriors in blue rather than civil servants performing a job that should not be adversarial. The right wing made American cops into what they are now vs what it formerly wanted them to be. Popular culture is a reflection of a society: they don't want Sheriff Taylor anymore,they want a door kicking badass from pick your movie or TV show.

So,you get overcrowded prisons you are stuck paying for,police who hate their community and people who are scared of both the wolf and the sheepdog. The only way to fix this IME is to admit that liberals were actually right about a few things such as non-violent crime not needing a jackboot on the neck and crime largely being a socioeconomic problem that jackboots don't fix. Yeah,this isn't going to happen.

This whole notion of being "LE friendly" is ridiculous. You should not have to be "LE friendly" any more than garbage man friendly or road repair guy friendly but again,that's not what you wanted so it isn't what you got. It's only scary now that being "tough on crime" means the prospect of  enforcing laws you don't like with means you put at their disposal to combat people you don't like. The shoe being on the other foot just isn't very comfortable now.
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As long as the non violent crime people dont get rent, snap, health  care,  obamaphone, internet asst and all that other crap, fine.
Link Posted: 10/22/2019 9:17:21 AM EST
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ok, found it, WTF...

if that is the standard, then GD in its entirety  is a waste of site resources, shut down everything.
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pretty fucked up
Link Posted: 10/22/2019 9:32:29 AM EST
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I appreciate your honesty.

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Also, if the staff thinks that having mostly law enforcement officers running the site is going to protect it somehow if there's some kind of controversy that ends up on the 24 hour news cycle, they're crazy.  Liberals hate cops too.  
I appreciate your honesty.

This is blatant mischaracterization. He was referring to liberals hating gun owners, and then “they hate cops too.”

You either willfully twisted what he said in order to add to your cop hater list.... or your comprehension skills are poor enough to make me question your ability to function in public.
Link Posted: 10/22/2019 9:38:23 AM EST
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he appears to be deliberately trolling, just to push buttons to make members snap and tell him off -- and get locked.  Just put him on ignore and enjoy life.
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You are right, of course.
Link Posted: 10/22/2019 9:48:27 AM EST
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This is blatant mischaracterization. He was referring to liberals hating gun owners, and then “they hate cops too.”

You either willfully twisted what he said in order to add to your cop hater list.... or your comprehension skills are poor enough to make me question your ability to function in public.
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Also, if the staff thinks that having mostly law enforcement officers running the site is going to protect it somehow if there's some kind of controversy that ends up on the 24 hour news cycle, they're crazy.  Liberals hate cops too.  
I appreciate your honesty.

This is blatant mischaracterization. He was referring to liberals hating gun owners, and then “they hate cops too.”

You either willfully twisted what he said in order to add to your cop hater list.... or your comprehension skills are poor enough to make me question your ability to function in public.
Link Posted: 10/22/2019 10:19:38 AM EST
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I've figured it out. GD needs a villain to hate. The complaining about underscores got replace by complaining about the mods. I see the same people whining about mods that were whining about underscores. Problem is, people tell a lie often enough, and they sucker non instigators in.

I'm also wondering about some of these moderation complaints. If I was shareblue, I'd be piling on right now on the moderation complaining. I would be surprised if 100% of the complainers were right wing gun owners. I'm thinking some left wing trouble makers are here adding to the trouble.
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Beautiful No True Scotsman ya got there.
Link Posted: 10/22/2019 10:42:06 AM EST
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It's gonna be LEGENDARY!!!
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I initially liked the idea of cleaning up GD because I assumed it meant focusing on full time trolls/site disrupters. I thought that would be a good idea especially with the election ramping up.
I can't wait for election season.
It's gonna be LEGENDARY!!!
Link Posted: 10/22/2019 11:16:42 AM EST
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Have you ever dealt with folks in the ghetto?  Multiple generations who have never held a job.  Many on disability for "anger issues".  Anybody who starts to get ahead gets pulled down by their neighbors.  The only way to get ahead is to get out and never go back, cutting all ties - and that's the word from my Tae Kwan Do Master who grew up in the ghetto.  His peers are either in jail or dead, he cut all ties in his teens, because if he hadn't, they would have dragged him back down.  Committing crime is routine - real crime - theft, assault, robbery, etc...  Doing time is normal.

Yeah, there are laws that are stupid, where the only victim is some politician's ego.  But theft, assault, robbery, burglary, rape, etc... are things most people agree should be punished (except the bleeding hearts who have this strange idea that people only steal to avoid starving).
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A government caused problem of epic proportions.
Link Posted: 10/22/2019 11:18:42 AM EST
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I've figured it out. GD needs a villain to hate. The complaining about underscores got replace by complaining about the mods. I see the same people whining about mods that were whining about underscores. Problem is, people tell a lie often enough, and they sucker non instigators in.

I'm also wondering about some of these moderation complaints. If I was shareblue, I'd be piling on right now on the moderation complaining. I would be surprised if 100% of the complainers were right wing gun owners. I'm thinking some left wing trouble makers are here adding to the trouble.
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Maybe we should get the guy that started the "palmetto has lost a customer" thread to come back and mod.

Gd already thinks he's an ass.
Link Posted: 10/22/2019 11:29:15 AM EST
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You still don't get it.

Have you ever taken a step back and looked critically at a law and said "Why is this activity criminalized?"  and realized that we have many, many things in this nation that are a crime for no reason other than because the legislature said so.

The mag law in Colorado is an example of this.

ETA:  I don't really expect you to "get it" TC, just responding and using your post as a foil.
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Its you who don't get it.
Its not my job to pick and choose what laws I agree with or disagree with professionally.
Of course I personally don't agree with some laws, and think that in general NYS is headed in the wrong direction, which is a major reason in my choice to pull the plug at the end of September.
Imagine the outcry if officers, for instance, showed up at a domestic and refused to arrest someone not because there was inadequate grounds to do so but because the officer personally disagreed with domestic violence laws.
Link Posted: 10/22/2019 11:34:00 AM EST
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I'll give TC the benefit of the doubt.  He didn't address "why is this activity criminalized" because that wasn't the question posed.  So I'm not going to assume what his position is on that.  Having said that, I do agree with you that there are a number of malum prohibitum crimes that should be rethought.

He's probably right about recidivists, the guys who just refuse to stop committing crimes.  Although, I cannot help but think that prison isn't much of a deterrent today unless it's a LONG stretch, and most of them don't think in terms of long-term consequences for their actions.  Jail and short prison stretches do more to establish networks, give street cred, and serve as finishing schools than actually punish, deter, or rehabilitate.

I'm more of the mindset of going back to throwing people in the stocks or giving them lashes in teh public square.  10 lashes for first DUI would probably cut down on that shit dramatically.
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These criminals already know each other. In many cases in my experience they've come up through the juvenile justice system together before they're even adults
The ones who aren't local get known long before they ever set foot in the actual jail.
As long as they're locked up, even if its pre-trial in the local jail,  they cannot cause harm to the general population.
I'm all for swift enforcement of the death penalty. I'd love to have a gallows set up in the park across from the county court house. Give the defendant 24 hours from time of conviction to present any appeals, and then carry out the sentence. I'm equally in favor of electrocution, the guillotine, and even crucifixion for particularly heinous crimes. And yes, I understand that that one would never happen because of "unusual punishment".
Link Posted: 10/22/2019 11:34:59 AM EST
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Have you ever dealt with folks in the ghetto?  Multiple generations who have never held a job.  Many on disability for "anger issues".  Anybody who starts to get ahead gets pulled down by their neighbors.  The only way to get ahead is to get out and never go back, cutting all ties - and that's the word from my Tae Kwan Do Master who grew up in the ghetto.  His peers are either in jail or dead, he cut all ties in his teens, because if he hadn't, they would have dragged him back down.  Committing crime is routine - real crime - theft, assault, robbery, etc...  Doing time is normal.

Yeah, there are laws that are stupid, where the only victim is some politician's ego.  But theft, assault, robbery, burglary, rape, etc... are things most people agree should be punished (except the bleeding hearts who have this strange idea that people only steal to avoid starving).
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Ok?

Of course the malum in se crimes you mentioned should be punished.  No one has suggested anything different.

If you look at a few posts above you can follow the conversation that there are plenty of malum prohibitum laws that have no reason to be on the books.

Regardless, the "ghetto people" problem is entirely created by the same government that then punishes (or doesn't) the people who depend on that same government.  It's a generational cycle of dependency perpetuated by the people in control.  Eliminate those social safety nets and punish malum in se laws with appropriate punishment, be it corporal, hard labor or harsh confinement, (i.e. quit overloading the judicial system with all of the dumb malum prohibitum issues) and you'll see the problem correct itself within ten years.
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Ghettos existed long before government benefit programs
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Ghettos existed long before government benefit programs
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But they were not taxpayer funded.
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Its you who don't get it.
Its not my job to pick and choose what laws I agree with or disagree with professionally.
Of course I personally don't agree with some laws, and think that in general NYS is headed in the wrong direction, which is a major reason in my choice to pull the plug at the end of September.
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There you go.

You see, by "pulling the plug" you are indeed choosing to not enforce laws you don't agree with "professionally".  You are quitting the profession.  If more police officers did that and simply quit instead of enforcing dumb laws, I'd wager you'd see a change.

No one HAS to be a police officer.  It's not forced upon anyone, as deciding on a profession is a personal choice.  By choosing to remain in the profession and enforcing bad law a police officer is tacitly endorsing those rule that he finds distasteful.  Just following orders is not a defense.

I'll give you credit for bowing out when you find it personally uncomfortable.
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But nearly all ghettos were government created.  For example, only allowing people of a certain ethnic group to live in a defined area, or creating laws specifically singling them out.  There was no government benefits, but ghettos were enforced by law.
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Holy shit.  This ought to be a wake up call.  This is a site for gun owners.  Liberals hate gun owners, but they hate cops too.  If you're seeing a cop hater behind every bush you need think about where your head is.  Fuck me could there be any better illustration of what's wrong here?
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[I see cop haters]

Holy shit.  This ought to be a wake up call.  This is a site for gun owners.  Liberals hate gun owners, but they hate cops too.  If you're seeing a cop hater behind every bush you need think about where your head is.  Fuck me could there be any better illustration of what's wrong here?

I've been lurking the last few days but this compelled me to log in again.

The "Thin Blue Line" is just another form of identity politics and it is tearing this site apart as much as identity politics are tearing this country apart.
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This is blatant mischaracterization. He was referring to liberals hating gun owners, and then “they hate cops too.”
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More clearly phrased, "liberals hate gun owners, and in addition they hate cops".
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Its you who don't get it.
Its not my job to pick and choose what laws I agree with or disagree with professionally.
Of course I personally don't agree with some laws, and think that in general NYS is headed in the wrong direction, which is a major reason in my choice to pull the plug at the end of September.
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You still don't get it.

Have you ever taken a step back and looked critically at a law and said "Why is this activity criminalized?"  and realized that we have many, many things in this nation that are a crime for no reason other than because the legislature said so.

The mag law in Colorado is an example of this.

ETA:  I don't really expect you to "get it" TC, just responding and using your post as a foil.
Its you who don't get it.
Its not my job to pick and choose what laws I agree with or disagree with professionally.
Of course I personally don't agree with some laws, and think that in general NYS is headed in the wrong direction, which is a major reason in my choice to pull the plug at the end of September.
Imagine the outcry if officers, for instance, showed up at a domestic and refused to arrest someone not because there was inadequate grounds to do so but because the officer personally disagreed with domestic violence laws.
Except when you chose to ignore the SAFE act during the period it applied to you.
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You guys would never make me a mod....this is me moderating GD.
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If the staff really cares about this site, they need to get new mods...
You volunteering?
Maybe he's a sMert as you. You turned the gig down to 10 seconds flat recently, didn't you?
You guys would never make me a mod....this is me moderating GD.
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If y'all vote for me as mod, I'll allow boobs in GD.

No hate, only boobs.
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Except when you chose to ignore the SAFE act during the period it applied to you.
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Its you who don't get it.
Its not my job to pick and choose what laws I agree with or disagree with professionally.
Of course I personally don't agree with some laws, and think that in general NYS is headed in the wrong direction, which is a major reason in my choice to pull the plug at the end of September.
Imagine the outcry if officers, for instance, showed up at a domestic and refused to arrest someone not because there was inadequate grounds to do so but because the officer personally disagreed with domestic violence laws.
Except when you chose to ignore the SAFE act during the period it applied to you.
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Unquestioned submission to authority is not an American value.

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Excellently said.
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Yeah, and besides, I really want to know what kind of trouble DK-Prof was causing, because I have a hard time visualizing him straying from the straight-and-narrow.
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ok, found it, WTF...

if that is the standard, then GD in its entirety  is a waste of site resources, shut down everything.
Yeah, and besides, I really want to know what kind of trouble DK-Prof was causing, because I have a hard time visualizing him straying from the straight-and-narrow.
Maybe he was running from the police in his Porsche
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he appears to be deliberately trolling, just to push buttons to make members snap and tell him off -- and get locked.  Just put him on ignore and enjoy life.
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Yup.  He accused me of being a tax protester and a sovereign citizen in a past thread.

I'm not sure how many comments I've made warning people to pay their taxes and not fuck around on that score.  

At this point, I think your advice is the best course of action:  ignore it and move on.
Link Posted: 10/22/2019 2:30:33 PM EST
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Except when you chose to ignore the SAFE act during the period it applied to you.
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Hey tc.  Is this true?  If so, not only your entire argument is false but your entire world view is as well.

tc, you owe us a straight yes or no to this question.

Did you or did you not adhere to the safe act?
Link Posted: 10/22/2019 2:32:49 PM EST
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Hey tc.  Is this true?  If so, not only your entire argument is false but your entire world view is as well.

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Did you or did you not adhere to the safe act?
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 He doesn't owe you anything.  But yes he did completely ignore the law before it was amended with the LEO cop out.
Link Posted: 10/22/2019 2:35:10 PM EST
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Except when you chose to ignore the SAFE act during the period it applied to you.
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You still don't get it.

Have you ever taken a step back and looked critically at a law and said "Why is this activity criminalized?"  and realized that we have many, many things in this nation that are a crime for no reason other than because the legislature said so.

The mag law in Colorado is an example of this.

ETA:  I don't really expect you to "get it" TC, just responding and using your post as a foil.
Its you who don't get it.
Its not my job to pick and choose what laws I agree with or disagree with professionally.
Of course I personally don't agree with some laws, and think that in general NYS is headed in the wrong direction, which is a major reason in my choice to pull the plug at the end of September.
Imagine the outcry if officers, for instance, showed up at a domestic and refused to arrest someone not because there was inadequate grounds to do so but because the officer personally disagreed with domestic violence laws.
Except when you chose to ignore the SAFE act during the period it applied to you.
Lol. Got heeeeemm.
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Yup.  He accused me of being a tax protester and a sovereign citizen in a past thread.

I'm not sure how many comments I've made warning people to pay their taxes and not fuck around on that score.  

At this point, I think your advice is the best course of action:  ignore it and move on.
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he appears to be deliberately trolling, just to push buttons to make members snap and tell him off -- and get locked.  Just put him on ignore and enjoy life.
Yup.  He accused me of being a tax protester and a sovereign citizen in a past thread.

I'm not sure how many comments I've made warning people to pay their taxes and not fuck around on that score.  

At this point, I think your advice is the best course of action:  ignore it and move on.
Lol, even I think you are too much of a hard ass on that.
Link Posted: 10/22/2019 2:37:55 PM EST
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Hey tc.  Is this true?  If so, not only your entire argument is false but your entire world view is as well.

tc, you owe us a straight yes or no to this question.

Did you or did you not adhere to the safe act?
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Except when you chose to ignore the SAFE act during the period it applied to you.
Hey tc.  Is this true?  If so, not only your entire argument is false but your entire world view is as well.

tc, you owe us a straight yes or no to this question.

Did you or did you not adhere to the safe act?
Of course he didn't. Neither did any other cop in ny, but they were all breaking the law for a few months before they got their exemption and left us plebes behind.

*Click
Link Posted: 10/22/2019 2:39:53 PM EST
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That guy is on ignore for a good reason, and it's not because of his witty sense of humor and intelligence
Link Posted: 10/22/2019 2:41:56 PM EST
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Hey tc.  Is this true?  If so, not only your entire argument is false but your entire world view is as well.

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The state government admitted that they had forgotten to exempt law enforcement in the legislation, stated that it was not their intent to have LEOs restricted under SAFE and passed an amendment in a matter of literally days to correct the issue
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Did you enforce the law or not?
It was the law, correct? Do you get to determine “intent” on all of the laws? Seems like if you did you wouldn’t be saying things like “I don’t get to choose what I enforce.”

Buuuuuuuuut, we know the answer to that already.
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Did you enforce the law or not?
It was the law, correct? Do you get to determine “intent” on all of the laws? Seems like if you did you wouldn’t be saying things like “I don’t get to choose what I enforce.”

Buuuuuuuuut, we know the answer to that already.
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The state government admitted that they had forgotten to exempt law enforcement in the legislation, stated that it was not their intent to have LEOs restricted under SAFE and passed an amendment in a matter of literally days to correct the issue
Did you enforce the law or not?
It was the law, correct? Do you get to determine “intent” on all of the laws? Seems like if you did you wouldn’t be saying things like “I don’t get to choose what I enforce.”

Buuuuuuuuut, we know the answer to that already.
The law is the law.

Unless it affects me personally...
Link Posted: 10/22/2019 3:19:24 PM EST
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LOL no. If the legislature that passed the bill stated that it was not their legislative intent to restrict LEO, and in fact passed amendments to correct their omission, it's him trying to post an irrelevant gotcha.
I think that his complaint is ironic , given that during the federal ban I did not use my police status for years to get a restricted AR at work but instead carried preban mags and s ban compliant rifle. But he wants to make an issue out of a week where it's a huge non-issue
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Umm...shouldn't ALL American's be tax protesters? Taxation is Theft!
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Tell us again how government is supposed to fund it's operations
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