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Link Posted: 9/26/2019 5:57:49 PM EDT
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He beat the queen . They want to insure that no "outsider" ever tries this again .
Link Posted: 9/26/2019 5:58:16 PM EDT
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"Hello, I'm Donald Trump."

Link Posted: 9/26/2019 5:58:35 PM EDT
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Then there is no such thing as executive privilege and no way for a sitting pres to do his job.......b/c he might run into a situation where he finds corruption on the opposite side of the isle.  Biden got caught abusing his official power.  Simple as that.  Now we have a manufactured crisis meant to harm the office.
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The DOJ is part of the executive branch, which has an explicit bias, which is why how they handled it is a point of inquiry.  As to the relative value such an investigation by Ukraine has, there is little doubt that such an investigation would be quite valuable to Trump, given that he has already used those allegations against Biden.

This is a political question now, and the standards for impeachment are not the same a criminal complaint.
Then there is no such thing as executive privilege and no way for a sitting pres to do his job.......b/c he might run into a situation where he finds corruption on the opposite side of the isle.  Biden got caught abusing his official power.  Simple as that.  Now we have a manufactured crisis meant to harm the office.
If he found evidence or was concerned by corruption from his potential opponent, then he should have directed the appropriate agency to conduct an investigation and recused himself or anyone associated with his campaign.

If Biden has been caught, then why did Trump want an investigation?
Link Posted: 9/26/2019 5:59:38 PM EDT
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So what about the so called whistleblower guy? Did he have any recorded evidence or just his statement?
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He's a CIA polesmoker with no FIRST HAND knowledge.
Link Posted: 9/26/2019 6:03:13 PM EDT
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Trump never asked Ukraine guy to look into biden. That is a media lie. Trump asked about 2016 election.
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True this, and why Trump notes how piss poorly and ineptly Mueller did his job, which wasn’t to investigate Trump but to investigate interference in the 2016 election. Mueller ineptly or corruptly chose to only investigate Trump.
Link Posted: 9/26/2019 6:05:26 PM EDT
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Is that what the law says?
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Yeah except the DoJ has already stated that what he asked for has no value to his campaign.

Stop buying what a low level NJ judge (Napolitano) tells you.  He is always wrong


The DOJ is part of the executive branch, which has an explicit bias, which is why how they handled it is a point of inquiry.  As to the relative value such an investigation by Ukraine has, there is little doubt that such an investigation would be quite valuable to Trump, given that he has already used those allegations against Biden.

This is a political question now, and the standards for impeachment are not the same a criminal complaint.
Any candidate running for president should be able to handle an investigation into their record of accomplishments.

Just so happens, one of Biden's accomplishments was to get a prosecutor fired for investigating his son.
Is that what the law says?
Did Biden break the law?

Let's find out.
Link Posted: 9/26/2019 6:06:57 PM EDT
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According to Dems and anti-trumpers.

Link Posted: 9/26/2019 6:08:04 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/26/2019 6:08:40 PM EDT
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Nothing.
Link Posted: 9/26/2019 6:10:31 PM EDT
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Did Biden break the law?

Let's find out.
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Yeah except the DoJ has already stated that what he asked for has no value to his campaign.

Stop buying what a low level NJ judge (Napolitano) tells you.  He is always wrong


The DOJ is part of the executive branch, which has an explicit bias, which is why how they handled it is a point of inquiry.  As to the relative value such an investigation by Ukraine has, there is little doubt that such an investigation would be quite valuable to Trump, given that he has already used those allegations against Biden.

This is a political question now, and the standards for impeachment are not the same a criminal complaint.
Any candidate running for president should be able to handle an investigation into their record of accomplishments.

Just so happens, one of Biden's accomplishments was to get a prosecutor fired for investigating his son.
Is that what the law says?
Did Biden break the law?

Let's find out.
Exactly, and there is a legally prescribed way to go about that.
Link Posted: 9/26/2019 6:12:30 PM EDT
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Did Biden break the law?

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Most Americans are a fair minded people.
They will want to know this.
Link Posted: 9/26/2019 6:13:10 PM EDT
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So when did he exactly donate for the so called favor?

Did he give him the key to the Trump hotel?
Link Posted: 9/26/2019 6:16:24 PM EDT
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Exactly, and there is a legally prescribed way to go about that.
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Yeah except the DoJ has already stated that what he asked for has no value to his campaign.

Stop buying what a low level NJ judge (Napolitano) tells you.  He is always wrong


The DOJ is part of the executive branch, which has an explicit bias, which is why how they handled it is a point of inquiry.  As to the relative value such an investigation by Ukraine has, there is little doubt that such an investigation would be quite valuable to Trump, given that he has already used those allegations against Biden.

This is a political question now, and the standards for impeachment are not the same a criminal complaint.
Any candidate running for president should be able to handle an investigation into their record of accomplishments.

Just so happens, one of Biden's accomplishments was to get a prosecutor fired for investigating his son.
Is that what the law says?
Did Biden break the law?

Let's find out.
Exactly, and there is a legally prescribed way to go about that.
Who is the most politically protected person to order an investigation of a former VP accused of bribery and extortion?

Is it illegal for a president to do such a thing?
Link Posted: 9/26/2019 6:19:05 PM EDT
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The democrats very clearly stated that they would seek impeachment as early as 5 mins after the results of the election were available. They're just looking for any excuse to go through with it. Trump could put the toilet paper under instead of over and they'd appoint a special prosecutor over it.
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I just can't believe they hitched their impeachment wagon to this, a BS whistle blower that's not even a whistle blower. The story began to unravel almost instantly after it broke. They would have been better off running with the Mueller report when he left the door open with the can't exonerate him/obstruction BS.

I mean it still would be a pretty lame reason for pushing for impeachment but it's a hell of a lot more plausible than this Whistle Blower BS they're running with.
Link Posted: 9/26/2019 6:20:02 PM EDT
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The DOJ is part of the executive branch, which has an explicit bias, which is why how they handled it is a point of inquiry.  As to the relative value such an investigation by Ukraine has, there is little doubt that such an investigation would be quite valuable to Trump, given that he has already used those allegations against Biden.

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I thought the dumbocrats were all about transparency?

Trump asking the Ukraine to investigate a crime that was committed over 3 years ago, has nothing to do with
a future election
Link Posted: 9/26/2019 6:21:40 PM EDT
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Who is the most politically protected person to order an investigation of a former VP accused of bribery and extortion?

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Yeah except the DoJ has already stated that what he asked for has no value to his campaign.

Stop buying what a low level NJ judge (Napolitano) tells you.  He is always wrong


The DOJ is part of the executive branch, which has an explicit bias, which is why how they handled it is a point of inquiry.  As to the relative value such an investigation by Ukraine has, there is little doubt that such an investigation would be quite valuable to Trump, given that he has already used those allegations against Biden.

This is a political question now, and the standards for impeachment are not the same a criminal complaint.
Any candidate running for president should be able to handle an investigation into their record of accomplishments.

Just so happens, one of Biden's accomplishments was to get a prosecutor fired for investigating his son.
Is that what the law says?
Did Biden break the law?

Let's find out.
Exactly, and there is a legally prescribed way to go about that.
Who is the most politically protected person to order an investigation of a former VP accused of bribery and extortion?

Is it illegal for a president to do such a thing?
The Attorney General

It depends.
Link Posted: 9/26/2019 6:22:19 PM EDT
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""TRUMP: Thank you. Thank you very much, everyone.

(APPLAUSE)

Sorry to keep you waiting; complicated business; complicated""

That's all it took...trust me.
Link Posted: 9/26/2019 6:22:31 PM EDT
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That is the law that the last administration and democratic presidential candidate broke, All I heard was Trump ask that the Ukrainian President to provide any info they had in reference of that crime during the 2016 election.
Link Posted: 9/26/2019 6:23:01 PM EDT
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Thanks for the replies, keep em coming
Link Posted: 9/26/2019 6:23:07 PM EDT
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Rosebud. ????
Link Posted: 9/26/2019 6:23:41 PM EDT
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So when did he exactly donate for the so called favor?

Did he give him the key to the Trump hotel?
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So when did he exactly donate for the so called favor?

Did he give him the key to the Trump hotel?
A donation or contribution can be information, and the argument made against Trump was that he was soliciting information on a political opponent which potentially can be a violation of campaign finance law.  Whether or not that would hold up in a court of law is mostly irrelevant now, since impeachment is a political process.
Link Posted: 9/26/2019 6:25:56 PM EDT
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The DOJ is part of the executive branch, which has an explicit bias, which is why how they handled it is a point of inquiry.  As to the relative value such an investigation by Ukraine has, there is little doubt that such an investigation would be quite valuable to Trump, given that he has already used those allegations against Biden.

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Allegations? You mean the allegations Biden bragged about on camera?
Link Posted: 9/26/2019 6:26:43 PM EDT
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Allegations? You mean the allegations Biden bragged about on camera?
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The DOJ is part of the executive branch, which has an explicit bias, which is why how they handled it is a point of inquiry.  As to the relative value such an investigation by Ukraine has, there is little doubt that such an investigation would be quite valuable to Trump, given that he has already used those allegations against Biden.

This is a political question now, and the standards for impeachment are not the same a criminal complaint.
Allegations? You mean the allegations Biden bragged about on camera?
Context doesn't matter?
Link Posted: 9/26/2019 6:29:52 PM EDT
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He said "Good morning"
Link Posted: 9/26/2019 6:30:28 PM EDT
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The Attorney General

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Yeah except the DoJ has already stated that what he asked for has no value to his campaign.

Stop buying what a low level NJ judge (Napolitano) tells you.  He is always wrong


The DOJ is part of the executive branch, which has an explicit bias, which is why how they handled it is a point of inquiry.  As to the relative value such an investigation by Ukraine has, there is little doubt that such an investigation would be quite valuable to Trump, given that he has already used those allegations against Biden.

This is a political question now, and the standards for impeachment are not the same a criminal complaint.
Any candidate running for president should be able to handle an investigation into their record of accomplishments.

Just so happens, one of Biden's accomplishments was to get a prosecutor fired for investigating his son.
Is that what the law says?
Did Biden break the law?

Let's find out.
Exactly, and there is a legally prescribed way to go about that.
Who is the most politically protected person to order an investigation of a former VP accused of bribery and extortion?

Is it illegal for a president to do such a thing?
The Attorney General

It depends.
The attorney general is subjected to hearings and subpoenas from the Senate and house of reps.

If he ordered the hit, he would have to answer to them.

The president can only be impeached or voted out of office.

Looks like democrats want him impeached....and Republicans DGAF.
Link Posted: 9/26/2019 6:30:35 PM EDT
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Please go on...
Link Posted: 9/26/2019 6:33:16 PM EDT
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The attorney general is subjected to hearings and subpoenas from the Senate and house of reps.

If he ordered the hit, he would have to answer to them.

The president can only be impeached or voted out of office.

Looks like democrats want him impeached....and Republicans DGAF.
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Yeah except the DoJ has already stated that what he asked for has no value to his campaign.

Stop buying what a low level NJ judge (Napolitano) tells you.  He is always wrong


The DOJ is part of the executive branch, which has an explicit bias, which is why how they handled it is a point of inquiry.  As to the relative value such an investigation by Ukraine has, there is little doubt that such an investigation would be quite valuable to Trump, given that he has already used those allegations against Biden.

This is a political question now, and the standards for impeachment are not the same a criminal complaint.
Any candidate running for president should be able to handle an investigation into their record of accomplishments.

Just so happens, one of Biden's accomplishments was to get a prosecutor fired for investigating his son.
Is that what the law says?
Did Biden break the law?

Let's find out.
Exactly, and there is a legally prescribed way to go about that.
Who is the most politically protected person to order an investigation of a former VP accused of bribery and extortion?

Is it illegal for a president to do such a thing?
The Attorney General

It depends.
The attorney general is subjected to hearings and subpoenas from the Senate and house of reps.

If he ordered the hit, he would have to answer to them.

The president can only be impeached or voted out of office.

Looks like democrats want him impeached....and Republicans DGAF.
The president doesn't really seem to be that well protected here.
Link Posted: 9/26/2019 6:33:40 PM EDT
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If he found evidence or was concerned by corruption from his potential opponent, then he should have directed the appropriate agency to conduct an investigation and recused himself or anyone associated with his campaign.

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How do you know it's not already being investigated by the appropriate agency here, and they needed help getting info from the Ukraine?

Sorry your guys a criminal, and losing
Link Posted: 9/26/2019 6:34:47 PM EDT
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im not a trump fan...

however, this is what i think is going on (other things too prolly).

ever been nauseated to the point that you want to throw up but it doesnt happen because its just right and the edge, so you suffer and eventually sort of force yourself the throw up, just to get it over with? thats whats going on with the dems, they want to impeach trump so bad they cant stand it (or try to impeach) regardless if they can actually get it done, which they cant. so finally with this last issue, pelosi has given up the ghost and gone all in because there is so much pressure from the left, its impossible to forego, even though is is likely to damage the dems as much or more than trump.

and i think there is also a plan to kill two birds with one stone, as in knock uncle joe off is perch. the problem is who will replace him? warren? the money boys dont want her so who does that leave? there are no decent candidates in the mass of idiots in the dem group.

the 2020 election, if the current usual suspects are the ones that end up running, is gonna be a bloody messy knock-down all out brawl.
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How do you know it's not already being investigated by the appropriate agency here, and they needed help getting info from the Ukraine?

Sorry your guys a criminal, and losing
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If he found evidence or was concerned by corruption from his potential opponent, then he should have directed the appropriate agency to conduct an investigation and recused himself or anyone associated with his campaign.

If Biden has been caught, then why did Trump want an investigation?
How do you know it's not already being investigated by the appropriate agency here, and they needed help getting info from the Ukraine?

Sorry your guys a criminal, and losing
How is that relevant to what was said by Trump?

Where have I shown any support for Biden?
Link Posted: 9/26/2019 6:38:24 PM EDT
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Not a fucking thing.

Link Posted: 9/26/2019 6:38:56 PM EDT
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He got elected, that's why he's being impeached.
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And he is about to expose the criminal acts by the deep state.
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Which he simply asked them to cooperate with the Atty General

and to speak to them about CloudStrike.  (which is really what has the Dems worried. If the Russia hacking narrative falls apart, then things start to look very bad for the Dems...)
Link Posted: 9/26/2019 6:46:10 PM EDT
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The president doesn't really seem to be that well protected here.
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Yeah except the DoJ has already stated that what he asked for has no value to his campaign.

Stop buying what a low level NJ judge (Napolitano) tells you.  He is always wrong


The DOJ is part of the executive branch, which has an explicit bias, which is why how they handled it is a point of inquiry.  As to the relative value such an investigation by Ukraine has, there is little doubt that such an investigation would be quite valuable to Trump, given that he has already used those allegations against Biden.

This is a political question now, and the standards for impeachment are not the same a criminal complaint.
Any candidate running for president should be able to handle an investigation into their record of accomplishments.

Just so happens, one of Biden's accomplishments was to get a prosecutor fired for investigating his son.
Is that what the law says?
Did Biden break the law?

Let's find out.
Exactly, and there is a legally prescribed way to go about that.
Who is the most politically protected person to order an investigation of a former VP accused of bribery and extortion?

Is it illegal for a president to do such a thing?
The Attorney General

It depends.
The attorney general is subjected to hearings and subpoenas from the Senate and house of reps.

If he ordered the hit, he would have to answer to them.

The president can only be impeached or voted out of office.

Looks like democrats want him impeached....and Republicans DGAF.
The president doesn't really seem to be that well protected here.
The president is protected by the people, the ones who elected him.

They all want Biden investigated.
Link Posted: 9/26/2019 6:48:44 PM EDT
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If he found evidence or was concerned by corruption from his potential opponent, then he should have directed the appropriate agency to conduct an investigation and recused himself or anyone associated with his campaign.

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Given that the key criminal behavior by Biden was in a foreign country, it makes sense to go to that country for information. And the investigation was shut down by the power Biden wielded when he was with the Obama administration.

You really need underscores. You think the deep state coup is fine, but you want anything to destroy Trump. Is Matt Drudge your boyfriend?
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Which he simply asked them to cooperate with the Atty General

and to speak to them about CloudStrike.  (which is really what has the Dems worried. If the Russia hacking narrative falls apart, then things start to look very bad for the Dems...)
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Exactly, and there is a legally prescribed way to go about that.
Which he simply asked them to cooperate with the Atty General

and to speak to them about CloudStrike.  (which is really what has the Dems worried. If the Russia hacking narrative falls apart, then things start to look very bad for the Dems...)
Which would have been fine if there was not the questions of a quid pro quo, and if Biden wasn't a potential opponent.
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Given that the key criminal behavior by Biden was in a foreign country, it makes sense to go to that country for information. And the investigation was shut down by the power Biden wielded when he was with the Obama administration.

You really need underscores. You think the deep state coup is fine, but you want anything to destroy Trump. Is Matt Drudge your boyfriend?
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If he found evidence or was concerned by corruption from his potential opponent, then he should have directed the appropriate agency to conduct an investigation and recused himself or anyone associated with his campaign.

If Biden has been caught, then why did Trump want an investigation?
Given that the key criminal behavior by Biden was in a foreign country, it makes sense to go to that country for information. And the investigation was shut down by the power Biden wielded when he was with the Obama administration.

You really need underscores. You think the deep state coup is fine, but you want anything to destroy Trump. Is Matt Drudge your boyfriend?
I fail to see how any of that is relevant to the potential violation.

If you are really bereft of a tangible argument that you have to make a personal attack against me, then maybe you should not engage in debates that are beyond your ability to understand sweatheart.
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Which would have been fine if there was not the questions of a quid pro quo, and if Biden wasn't a potential opponent.
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Exactly, and there is a legally prescribed way to go about that.
Which he simply asked them to cooperate with the Atty General

and to speak to them about CloudStrike.  (which is really what has the Dems worried. If the Russia hacking narrative falls apart, then things start to look very bad for the Dems...)
Which would have been fine if there was not the questions of a quid pro quo, and if Biden wasn't a potential opponent.
Questions of a potential quid pro quo from Trump is just a defense for Biden.

Biden being a potential opponent is irrelevant to the crimes he may have committed.
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Questions of a potential quid pro quo from Trump is just a defense for Biden.

Biden being a potential opponent is irrelevant to the crimes he may have committed.
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Exactly, and there is a legally prescribed way to go about that.
Which he simply asked them to cooperate with the Atty General

and to speak to them about CloudStrike.  (which is really what has the Dems worried. If the Russia hacking narrative falls apart, then things start to look very bad for the Dems...)
Which would have been fine if there was not the questions of a quid pro quo, and if Biden wasn't a potential opponent.
Questions of a potential quid pro quo from Trump is just a defense for Biden.

Biden being a potential opponent is irrelevant to the crimes he may have committed.
No one is arguing that Biden's status as a candidate absolves him of an investigation, the argument is how Trump pursued an investigation.
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The one around here? Good.
Lol....I took that the same way
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I fail to see how any of that is relevant to the potential violation.

If you are really bereft of a tangible argument that you have to make a personal attack against me, then maybe you should not engage in debates that are beyond your ability to understand sweatheart.
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Discussion of such things is via the executive branch. It makes sense for the executive branch to work with foreign powers when it comes to the corruption of US officials.
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Which would have been fine if there was not the questions of a quid pro quo, and if Biden wasn't a potential opponent.
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Exactly, and there is a legally prescribed way to go about that.
Which he simply asked them to cooperate with the Atty General

and to speak to them about CloudStrike.  (which is really what has the Dems worried. If the Russia hacking narrative falls apart, then things start to look very bad for the Dems...)
Which would have been fine if there was not the questions of a quid pro quo, and if Biden wasn't a potential opponent.
There is no question of quid pro quo.

Read the transcript.

The media claiming there is doesn't make it so.
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Just curious.

I read the transcript and if impeachment Is solely on his call to the Ukraine President, what was the specific law broken?
https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=(title:52%20section:30121%20edition:prelim)
How did anything in that conversation violate campaign finance laws?
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I fail to see how any of that is relevant to the potential violation.

If you are really bereft of a tangible argument that you have to make a personal attack against me, then maybe you should not engage in debates that are beyond your ability to understand sweatheart.
Discussion of such things is via the executive branch. It makes sense for the executive branch to work with foreign powers when it comes to the corruption of US officials.
Yes, and that inquiry should have been conducted by someone that does not stand to directly benefit from such a inquiry.
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A donation or contribution can be information, and the argument made against Trump was that he was soliciting information on a political opponent which potentially can be a violation of campaign finance law.  Whether or not that would hold up in a court of law is mostly irrelevant now, since impeachment is a political process.
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You mean like how the Democrats begged ukraine for dirt on trump, or the piss dossier? Oh wait how bout breaking the law when they fucked the FISA shit up to literally spy on his campaign.

Yea this phone call is SO bad.. ffs give it a break.

Fucking clown world.
Link Posted: 9/26/2019 7:12:09 PM EDT
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There is no question of quid pro quo.

Read the transcript.

The media claiming there is doesn't make it so.
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Exactly, and there is a legally prescribed way to go about that.
Which he simply asked them to cooperate with the Atty General

and to speak to them about CloudStrike.  (which is really what has the Dems worried. If the Russia hacking narrative falls apart, then things start to look very bad for the Dems...)
Which would have been fine if there was not the questions of a quid pro quo, and if Biden wasn't a potential opponent.
There is no question of quid pro quo.

Read the transcript.

The media claiming there is doesn't make it so.
Trump didn't put a hold on aid to Ukraine prior to the call?
Link Posted: 9/26/2019 7:13:25 PM EDT
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No one is arguing that Biden's status as a candidate absolves him of an investigation, the argument is how Trump pursued an investigation.
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Exactly, and there is a legally prescribed way to go about that.
Which he simply asked them to cooperate with the Atty General

and to speak to them about CloudStrike.  (which is really what has the Dems worried. If the Russia hacking narrative falls apart, then things start to look very bad for the Dems...)
Which would have been fine if there was not the questions of a quid pro quo, and if Biden wasn't a potential opponent.
Questions of a potential quid pro quo from Trump is just a defense for Biden.

Biden being a potential opponent is irrelevant to the crimes he may have committed.
No one is arguing that Biden's status as a candidate absolves him of an investigation, the argument is how Trump pursued an investigation.
Any accusation that Trump did something nefarious to pursue an investigation is without merit and evidence.

Trump acted properly on real evidence. The same as any other LEO would.
Link Posted: 9/26/2019 7:14:00 PM EDT
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You mean like how the Democrats begged ukraine for dirt on trump, or the piss dossier? Oh wait how bout breaking the law when they fucked the FISA shit up to literally spy on his campaign.

Yea this phone call is SO bad.. ffs give it a break.

Fucking clown world. https://media1.tenor.com/images/bff6c6ff2b530e4ec1230a32b7163183/tenor.gif?itemid=11047567
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A donation or contribution can be information, and the argument made against Trump was that he was soliciting information on a political opponent which potentially can be a violation of campaign finance law.  Whether or not that would hold up in a court of law is mostly irrelevant now, since impeachment is a political process.
You mean like how the Democrats begged ukraine for dirt on trump, or the piss dossier? Oh wait how bout breaking the law when they fucked the FISA shit up to literally spy on his campaign.

Yea this phone call is SO bad.. ffs give it a break.

Fucking clown world. https://media1.tenor.com/images/bff6c6ff2b530e4ec1230a32b7163183/tenor.gif?itemid=11047567
How is that relevant?  The OP was asking what would warrant Trump's impeachment, not whether or not past administrations have violated the law too.
Link Posted: 9/26/2019 7:14:22 PM EDT
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If biden had admitted to murdering someone would trump be accused of tampering with an election for wanting to investigate it?

Are we suppose to say fuck it, hes a criminal, but were not going to investigate because hes running for office?

Really?
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Trump didn't put a hold on aid to Ukraine prior to the call?
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Exactly, and there is a legally prescribed way to go about that.
Which he simply asked them to cooperate with the Atty General

and to speak to them about CloudStrike.  (which is really what has the Dems worried. If the Russia hacking narrative falls apart, then things start to look very bad for the Dems...)
Which would have been fine if there was not the questions of a quid pro quo, and if Biden wasn't a potential opponent.
There is no question of quid pro quo.

Read the transcript.

The media claiming there is doesn't make it so.
Trump didn't put a hold on aid to Ukraine prior to the call?
Are you reaching for straws?
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