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He beat the queen . They want to insure that no "outsider" ever tries this again .
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Then there is no such thing as executive privilege and no way for a sitting pres to do his job.......b/c he might run into a situation where he finds corruption on the opposite side of the isle. Biden got caught abusing his official power. Simple as that. Now we have a manufactured crisis meant to harm the office. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted: The DOJ is part of the executive branch, which has an explicit bias, which is why how they handled it is a point of inquiry. As to the relative value such an investigation by Ukraine has, there is little doubt that such an investigation would be quite valuable to Trump, given that he has already used those allegations against Biden. This is a political question now, and the standards for impeachment are not the same a criminal complaint. If Biden has been caught, then why did Trump want an investigation? |
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Trump never asked Ukraine guy to look into biden. That is a media lie. Trump asked about 2016 election. View Quote |
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Yeah except the DoJ has already stated that what he asked for has no value to his campaign. Stop buying what a low level NJ judge (Napolitano) tells you. He is always wrong The DOJ is part of the executive branch, which has an explicit bias, which is why how they handled it is a point of inquiry. As to the relative value such an investigation by Ukraine has, there is little doubt that such an investigation would be quite valuable to Trump, given that he has already used those allegations against Biden. This is a political question now, and the standards for impeachment are not the same a criminal complaint. Just so happens, one of Biden's accomplishments was to get a prosecutor fired for investigating his son. Let's find out. |
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Exactly, and there is a legally prescribed way to go about that. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Yeah except the DoJ has already stated that what he asked for has no value to his campaign. Stop buying what a low level NJ judge (Napolitano) tells you. He is always wrong The DOJ is part of the executive branch, which has an explicit bias, which is why how they handled it is a point of inquiry. As to the relative value such an investigation by Ukraine has, there is little doubt that such an investigation would be quite valuable to Trump, given that he has already used those allegations against Biden. This is a political question now, and the standards for impeachment are not the same a criminal complaint. Just so happens, one of Biden's accomplishments was to get a prosecutor fired for investigating his son. Let's find out. Is it illegal for a president to do such a thing? |
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The democrats very clearly stated that they would seek impeachment as early as 5 mins after the results of the election were available. They're just looking for any excuse to go through with it. Trump could put the toilet paper under instead of over and they'd appoint a special prosecutor over it. View Quote I mean it still would be a pretty lame reason for pushing for impeachment but it's a hell of a lot more plausible than this Whistle Blower BS they're running with. |
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Who is the most politically protected person to order an investigation of a former VP accused of bribery and extortion? Is it illegal for a president to do such a thing? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Yeah except the DoJ has already stated that what he asked for has no value to his campaign. Stop buying what a low level NJ judge (Napolitano) tells you. He is always wrong The DOJ is part of the executive branch, which has an explicit bias, which is why how they handled it is a point of inquiry. As to the relative value such an investigation by Ukraine has, there is little doubt that such an investigation would be quite valuable to Trump, given that he has already used those allegations against Biden. This is a political question now, and the standards for impeachment are not the same a criminal complaint. Just so happens, one of Biden's accomplishments was to get a prosecutor fired for investigating his son. Let's find out. Is it illegal for a president to do such a thing? It depends. |
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""TRUMP: Thank you. Thank you very much, everyone.
(APPLAUSE) Sorry to keep you waiting; complicated business; complicated"" That's all it took...trust me. |
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That is the law that the last administration and democratic presidential candidate broke, All I heard was Trump ask that the Ukrainian President to provide any info they had in reference of that crime during the 2016 election.
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So when did he exactly donate for the so called favor? Did he give him the key to the Trump hotel? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
So when did he exactly donate for the so called favor? Did he give him the key to the Trump hotel? |
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Allegations? You mean the allegations Biden bragged about on camera? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The attorney general is subjected to hearings and subpoenas from the Senate and house of reps. If he ordered the hit, he would have to answer to them. The president can only be impeached or voted out of office. Looks like democrats want him impeached....and Republicans DGAF. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Quoted: If he found evidence or was concerned by corruption from his potential opponent, then he should have directed the appropriate agency to conduct an investigation and recused himself or anyone associated with his campaign. If Biden has been caught, then why did Trump want an investigation? View Quote Sorry your guys a criminal, and losing |
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im not a trump fan...
however, this is what i think is going on (other things too prolly). ever been nauseated to the point that you want to throw up but it doesnt happen because its just right and the edge, so you suffer and eventually sort of force yourself the throw up, just to get it over with? thats whats going on with the dems, they want to impeach trump so bad they cant stand it (or try to impeach) regardless if they can actually get it done, which they cant. so finally with this last issue, pelosi has given up the ghost and gone all in because there is so much pressure from the left, its impossible to forego, even though is is likely to damage the dems as much or more than trump. and i think there is also a plan to kill two birds with one stone, as in knock uncle joe off is perch. the problem is who will replace him? warren? the money boys dont want her so who does that leave? there are no decent candidates in the mass of idiots in the dem group. the 2020 election, if the current usual suspects are the ones that end up running, is gonna be a bloody messy knock-down all out brawl. |
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How do you know it's not already being investigated by the appropriate agency here, and they needed help getting info from the Ukraine? Sorry your guys a criminal, and losing View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The president doesn't really seem to be that well protected here. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Quoted: If he found evidence or was concerned by corruption from his potential opponent, then he should have directed the appropriate agency to conduct an investigation and recused himself or anyone associated with his campaign. If Biden has been caught, then why did Trump want an investigation? View Quote You really need underscores. You think the deep state coup is fine, but you want anything to destroy Trump. Is Matt Drudge your boyfriend? |
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Which he simply asked them to cooperate with the Atty General and to speak to them about CloudStrike. (which is really what has the Dems worried. If the Russia hacking narrative falls apart, then things start to look very bad for the Dems...) View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Given that the key criminal behavior by Biden was in a foreign country, it makes sense to go to that country for information. And the investigation was shut down by the power Biden wielded when he was with the Obama administration. You really need underscores. You think the deep state coup is fine, but you want anything to destroy Trump. Is Matt Drudge your boyfriend? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted: If he found evidence or was concerned by corruption from his potential opponent, then he should have directed the appropriate agency to conduct an investigation and recused himself or anyone associated with his campaign. If Biden has been caught, then why did Trump want an investigation? You really need underscores. You think the deep state coup is fine, but you want anything to destroy Trump. Is Matt Drudge your boyfriend? If you are really bereft of a tangible argument that you have to make a personal attack against me, then maybe you should not engage in debates that are beyond your ability to understand sweatheart. |
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Which would have been fine if there was not the questions of a quid pro quo, and if Biden wasn't a potential opponent. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Questions of a potential quid pro quo from Trump is just a defense for Biden. Biden being a potential opponent is irrelevant to the crimes he may have committed. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Which would have been fine if there was not the questions of a quid pro quo, and if Biden wasn't a potential opponent. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Just curious. I read the transcript and if impeachment Is solely on his call to the Ukraine President, what was the specific law broken? |
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Discussion of such things is via the executive branch. It makes sense for the executive branch to work with foreign powers when it comes to the corruption of US officials. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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No one is arguing that Biden's status as a candidate absolves him of an investigation, the argument is how Trump pursued an investigation. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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You mean like how the Democrats begged ukraine for dirt on trump, or the piss dossier? Oh wait how bout breaking the law when they fucked the FISA shit up to literally spy on his campaign. Yea this phone call is SO bad.. ffs give it a break. Fucking clown world. https://media1.tenor.com/images/bff6c6ff2b530e4ec1230a32b7163183/tenor.gif?itemid=11047567 View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted: A donation or contribution can be information, and the argument made against Trump was that he was soliciting information on a political opponent which potentially can be a violation of campaign finance law. Whether or not that would hold up in a court of law is mostly irrelevant now, since impeachment is a political process. Yea this phone call is SO bad.. ffs give it a break. Fucking clown world. https://media1.tenor.com/images/bff6c6ff2b530e4ec1230a32b7163183/tenor.gif?itemid=11047567 |
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