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Posted: 4/20/2020 3:49:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Those are cool, and if one wanted a Garand as a survival rifle, that would definitely be a cool option. Some kind of shortened BM-59 would be awesome!  I always wanted to build an 18" M1 with an M1a gas system. That said, I agree that the "Only shoot M2 ball" notion is over blown. I've shot a shitload of 165 and 180 grain .30-06 in several M1 rifles. Had quite a few of the import garands and carbines back in the 90s. The advantages of the AK are the size and weight. That's no doubt. The advantage of a 30rd mag is largely academic for such a scenario, imho. Chuck Taylor reviewed the Springfield Armory M1 tanker in the 80s SWAT magazine. He flatly said, "If the balloon goes up, this rifle is the one I would choose". Now, that's just in a review article, I know. But he made several good points for such a choice. I would consider myself well armed with either rifle. They will both absolutely get the job done so long as I do mine. |
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Posted: 4/20/2020 3:54:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm an AK fan, but don't especially like 7.62x39. The sights on the garand are superb. If I'm in a pack of folks, I'd go ak. If I'm roughing it solo, or just a couple travellers, garand. Try to keep my distance. I’d reverse this. My area is both suburban city and farms. If I knew I could connect with a reasonable local militia or my well-armed friends and keep the peace, I’d go with a Garand. If I were by myself, there’s a lot of suburbia. An AK would be a lot handier. |
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Posted: 4/20/2020 3:55:44 PM EDT
[#3]
Let me be the voice of reason.
An AK is an excellent short to mid range weapon. It fires a decent cartridge and the gun is rugged, reliable and compact. The piece is also reasonably handy. The ammo is not as common as other rounds, but you may have a case or two in your basement. I know that I do. On the other hand, a .308 Garand is also an excellent weapon. A .308 Garand can shoot any standard 150 grain or 165 grain factory round. It is easy to buy a hundred en blocs and to load them up. You can also buy a modern bandolier from Olangapo Outfitters and carry a clinton-load of ammo. My own .308 Garand has a chrome lined barrel and it is very easy to clean. It also has a sweet trigger and great sights.  An AK has a firepower advantage over an M1; however you can reload an M1 faster than you can an AK. It all comes down to mindset and determination and what rifle you have. Hector Cafferata defended the Chosin Reservoir with two Garands and he destroyed a company of enemy infantry. But Cafferara was also a very serious, motivated man. A serious motivated man, can do a lot of damage with either rifle. So whatever rifle you have, learn to use it and focus on your mindset, mental focus and physical fitness.  
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Posted: 4/20/2020 4:39:42 PM EDT
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I don’t think I would be eager to hump a Garand and that heavy ammo over any long distances. That’s the whole point of the “intermediate cartridge”, it’s good-enough for the vast majority of people and situations you are likely to encounter. Advantage AK, especially if you have a large stash of polymer mags for it (since the Comblock metals ones are heavy.)
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Posted: 4/20/2020 4:44:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How many rounds of 5.56 do you have? Anyone who stockpiles 30-06 is absolutely also stockpiling something in a mag fed auto-loader flavor. I had my hunting rifle before my AR. I picked up my 30-06 stash at around $5 a box using specials and sales at Cabela’s about 16 years ago. I set up my rifle for a particular load and bought a lot of it. Outside of a class Fargo007 taught a decade ago, I use less than a box a year. I have maybe less than a 1000 rounds of 5.56. I shoot that a lot more. So, I always have about 250 rounds but rarely more than 1000. |
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Posted: 4/20/2020 4:48:05 PM EDT
[#6]
Fluffy,
Is that Crabby? |
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Posted: 4/20/2020 4:53:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Fluffy, Is that Crabby? No. She's a young lady who cooks Bimba's lunch. |
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Posted: 4/20/2020 4:55:49 PM EDT
[#8]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I had my hunting rifle before my AR. I picked up my 30-06 stash at around $5 a box using specials and sales at Cabela’s about 16 years ago. I set up my rifle for a particular load and bought a lot of it. Outside of a class Fargo007 taught a decade ago, I use less than a box a year. I have maybe less than a 1000 rounds of 5.56. I shoot that a lot more. So, I always have about 250 rounds but rarely more than 1000. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: How many rounds of 5.56 do you have? Anyone who stockpiles 30-06 is absolutely also stockpiling something in a mag fed auto-loader flavor. I had my hunting rifle before my AR. I picked up my 30-06 stash at around $5 a box using specials and sales at Cabela’s about 16 years ago. I set up my rifle for a particular load and bought a lot of it. Outside of a class Fargo007 taught a decade ago, I use less than a box a year. I have maybe less than a 1000 rounds of 5.56. I shoot that a lot more. So, I always have about 250 rounds but rarely more than 1000. I have a decent amount of 5.56 - more than 1000 rounds, I'd say - but I have significantly more .303. |
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Posted: 4/20/2020 5:13:25 PM EDT
[#9]
I chose Garand. I don't own an AK but I have three Garands. One from each manufacturer except Winchester.
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Posted: 4/20/2020 5:30:42 PM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryQuoted: AK I'm not going to pretend I'd be shooting at somebody 600 yards away and I damn sure don't want to be fucking around with that big, low capacity, high recoiling, outdated bastard at anything relatively close where you're FAR more likely to get to bump into some baddy. I think some of you seriously over state the recoil of the M1. |
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Posted: 4/20/2020 5:43:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The Garand is actually an extremely reliable design. Yes, there is an opening in the receiver where debris CAN enter the action, but in practice, it doesn’t seem to be a problem. I’ve used/seen garands in very dirty conditions, and they generally work VERY reliably. Having shot a Garand in my time, the open action is far more annoying in slinging water and dirt on you, than jamming the weapon. |
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Posted: 4/20/2020 5:44:30 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I love that!!  There is a very good argument to made that the BM59 is a strong second place to the AR10 in period 7.62NATO rifles. |
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Posted: 4/20/2020 6:04:38 PM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I think some of you seriously over state the recoil of the M1. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: AK I'm not going to pretend I'd be shooting at somebody 600 yards away and I damn sure don't want to be fucking around with that big, low capacity, high recoiling, outdated bastard at anything relatively close where you're FAR more likely to get to bump into some baddy. I think some of you seriously over state the recoil of the M1. I know. I think most of the people who worry about that have not actually shot one. |
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Posted: 4/20/2020 6:09:34 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I know. I think most of the people who worry about that have not actually shot one. No kidding. The big M1 barely rates on the scale of Milsurp Pain. Most of the .30+ caliber bolt-action carbines go from worse to much worse. The 8x56 Steyr M95 carbines and 8x50R Berthier carbines are especially bad. |
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Posted: 4/20/2020 6:18:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I know. I think most of the people who worry about that have not actually shot one. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: AK I'm not going to pretend I'd be shooting at somebody 600 yards away and I damn sure don't want to be fucking around with that big, low capacity, high recoiling, outdated bastard at anything relatively close where you're FAR more likely to get to bump into some baddy. I think some of you seriously over state the recoil of the M1. I know. I think most of the people who worry about that have not actually shot one. I've never put it on a timer, but think the m1 probably settles back on tgt faster than an ak. |
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Posted: 4/20/2020 6:22:30 PM EDT
[#16]
I like the Garand but for the weight and ammo load out I would go with the Ak if they are the only 2 choices
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Posted: 4/20/2020 6:25:24 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No kidding. The big M1 barely rates on the scale of Milsurp Pain. Most of the .30 caliber bolt-action carbines go from worse to much worse. The 8x56 Steyr M95 carbines and 8x50R Berthier carbines are especially bad. I wonder how many have shot the bolt actions. I don’t have that wide of experience, but a .308 bolt action is stout, but not terrible. A little experience, and it’s not a problem to plink away (though the cost per round isn’t exactly low). Much easier to deal with than a 12 gauge, which is still doable (though my wife won’t touch one, preferring a 20). Semi-autos are also generally easier to deal with, the force is partially absorbed or redirected by the reloading system. Experience with the Garand, absolutely a concern, same with number of rounds in a clip. The latter, and my immediate AO, are exactly why I’d prefer an AK - defending my loved ones would be a lot easier with the shorter and handier AK. But the problem with recoil in the M14 was more an automatic controllability thing from what I’ve read, not shootability in semi-auto. I wouldn’t expect problems with the Garand on that score. And would be happy to have a nice piece of American steel by my side. |
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Posted: 4/20/2020 6:25:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have a decent amount of 5.56 - more than 1000 rounds, I'd say - but I have significantly more .303. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: How many rounds of 5.56 do you have? Anyone who stockpiles 30-06 is absolutely also stockpiling something in a mag fed auto-loader flavor. I had my hunting rifle before my AR. I picked up my 30-06 stash at around $5 a box using specials and sales at Cabela’s about 16 years ago. I set up my rifle for a particular load and bought a lot of it. Outside of a class Fargo007 taught a decade ago, I use less than a box a year. I have maybe less than a 1000 rounds of 5.56. I shoot that a lot more. So, I always have about 250 rounds but rarely more than 1000. I have a decent amount of 5.56 - more than 1000 rounds, I'd say - but I have significantly more .303. If a gun guy ever finds himself scavenging through my stash, he's going to be baffled at why I would have so much .303 Brit and 7.5 Swiss relative to my modest inventory of .223 and 9mm. 
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Posted: 4/20/2020 6:28:17 PM EDT
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The AK was built for simplicity so some peasant from the Steppes that had never seen a horseless carriage could operate and maintain it. If simplicity, ease of use, ease of maintenance, ability to take abuse are the KPIs, I'm an AK guy all day long.
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Posted: 4/20/2020 6:30:12 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I get the feeling I might be the ONLY person to vote for the Garand. Please..... |
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Posted: 4/20/2020 6:32:36 PM EDT
[#21]
I’m going with one of my garand’s over an AK any day, and twice on Sunday. Also, there is an after market gas plug made to control rate of gas escape, which allows the garand to utilize any 30:06 ammo without being damaged...or so I’ve heard.
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Posted: 4/20/2020 6:40:40 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I've never put it on a timer, but think the m1 probably settles back on tgt faster than an ak. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: AK I'm not going to pretend I'd be shooting at somebody 600 yards away and I damn sure don't want to be fucking around with that big, low capacity, high recoiling, outdated bastard at anything relatively close where you're FAR more likely to get to bump into some baddy. I think some of you seriously over state the recoil of the M1. I know. I think most of the people who worry about that have not actually shot one. I've never put it on a timer, but think the m1 probably settles back on tgt faster than an ak. Paul Harrell did a comparison of the m1 and m14/m1a. There is some ak shooting included. https://youtu.be/y0rC-rJ_nIg?t=845 |
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Posted: 4/20/2020 6:46:26 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I’m going with one of my garand’s over an AK any day, and twice on Sunday. Also, there is an after market gas plug made to control rate of gas escape, which allows the garand to utilize any 30:06 ammo without being damaged...or so I’ve heard. Schuster plug, already mentioned. |
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Posted: 4/20/2020 6:51:37 PM EDT
[#24]
I heard theres a gas plug for the M1 that let's you shoot a variety of ammo with it.
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Posted: 4/20/2020 6:52:22 PM EDT
[#25]
 M1 Garand at speed. Hammered pair, speed reloads, plinking  Garand at speed II |
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Posted: 4/20/2020 6:57:31 PM EDT
[#26]
Who was it here that used to shoot a M1 in 3 gun?
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Posted: 4/20/2020 7:03:32 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote History M1 Garand review with Jerry Miculek
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Posted: 4/20/2020 7:05:53 PM EDT
[#28]
AK. That standoff thing won't last for long after the first shot and, at that point, I'd rather have rapid volume if I needed it.
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Posted: 4/20/2020 7:12:45 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The Garand is actually an extremely reliable design. Yes, there is an opening in the receiver where debris CAN enter the action, but in practice, it doesn’t seem to be a problem. I’ve used/seen garands in very dirty conditions, and they generally work VERY reliably. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: From what I understand, the design of the garand was problematic and led to a lot of jams in less than ideal conditions, which is what shtf would be. The Garand is actually an extremely reliable design. Yes, there is an opening in the receiver where debris CAN enter the action, but in practice, it doesn’t seem to be a problem. I’ve used/seen garands in very dirty conditions, and they generally work VERY reliably. I believe you. As a garden variety bipedal hominid, dragging the rifle through dirt or mud and rendering its self-loading feature inoperable is not something I'd be overly concerned about. Furthermore, I'd genuinely like to see some of the AARs that address M1 rifle malfunctions due to the ingestion of dirt, sand, or other debris into the action. If is *was* a problem and identified, I doubt that the U.S. would have manufactured over 6,000,000 of them for use as service rifles from 1936 until the mid-1950s. |
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Posted: 4/20/2020 7:22:37 PM EDT
[#30]
AK all the way. Don’t get me wrong, I love Garands, but I wouldn’t want to have to hump one and a bunch of 30-06 ammo around, and the 8 round clips pretty much suck. Also for my area 7.62x39 will handle any game that I may come in contact with.
There is a reason you hardly ever seen any Garands being used by insurgent groups around the world, and it’s not due to a lack of numbers of them being produced. It always gets me where many on this website think they Garand is God’s own personal rifle, but then go to tell you how the M-14 is a total POS. |
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Posted: 4/20/2020 7:26:14 PM EDT
[#31]
AK. Accurate enough and ballistically adequate for hunting.
Ammo. 30-06 may be more popular for hunting but I guarantee there is more 7.62x39 out there. People don’t shoot 30-06 like they shoot 7.62x39. There’s a crazy amount of that stuff imported every year. Mags. I rather have 30 rounds ready to go than 8. Having the ability to lay down a high volume of fire can make up for small number of shooters. The ability to continuously lay down a slow cadence of fire for a longer period of time. I’m not in the I’ll shoot em at 600 meters because 30-06 camp. I rather wait tell they’re close and ambush them at short range to ensure they die and don’t break contact at 600. Then come back with their buddies. (That’s the plan anyways ) Low recoil because why have more if you don’t need to. |
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Posted: 4/20/2020 7:27:57 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: AK all the way. Don’t get me wrong, I love Garands, but I wouldn’t want to have to hump one and a bunch of 30-06 ammo around, and the 8 round clips pretty much suck. Also for my area 7.62x39 will handle any game that I may come in contact with. There is a reason you hardly ever seen any Garands being used by insurgent groups around the world, and it’s not due to a lack of numbers of them being produced. It always gets me where many on this website think they Garand is God’s own personal rifle, but then go to tell you how the M-14 is a total POS. There were some M1s captured in Iraq and Afghanistan, not many but some. Ak mags and ammo are exponentially more common in that part of the world than en bloc 06. There was many GIs that turned M1s in to be issued the M-14 that weren't fond of the replacement rifle either. I wouldn't call it a POS, but for the time in which it was adopted, it was very nearly a lateral movement in terms of modernization and it's ability to use technology already showing up in the armed forces. |
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Posted: 4/20/2020 7:33:46 PM EDT
[#33]
Go 1950's old school. A M1 modded to take BAR magazines
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Posted: 4/20/2020 7:36:30 PM EDT
[#34]
If you think a Garand kicks hard, you need to change out your tampon.
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Posted: 4/20/2020 7:41:41 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Who was it here that used to shoot a M1 in 3 gun? The guys at InRange have videos of them doing it. I know one year at IDARM we had an entire Squad of M1 Garand Shooters.  IDARM 2017 - M1 Garand Style - Stage 1  IDARM 2017 - M1 Garand Style - Stage 2 - Banzai Charge!  IDARM 2017 - M1 Garand Style - Stage 3 - Bunkers  IDARM 2017 - M1 Garand Style - Stage 4 - Steel Balls & M1s |
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Posted: 4/20/2020 7:47:33 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It won't, but the clips might. Weakest link. If so - has anybody ever offered some sort of DBM modification ? |
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Posted: 4/20/2020 7:49:50 PM EDT
[#37]
Winchester M-1 Garand
Underwood M-1 carbine Colt SP-1 carbine Remington 870 Wingmaster I think I’m good, hell I found two ammo cans full of M-2 Ball on Garand clips that I forgot I had. |
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Posted: 4/20/2020 7:54:48 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Go 1950's old school. A M1 modded to take BAR magazines That was attempted by Ordnance designers, but the spring in the unmodified BAR magazines wasn't powerful enough to push the cartridges to the top of the magazine before the bolt was returning into battery. |
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Posted: 4/20/2020 7:59:44 PM EDT
[#39]
I would only choose a Garand if I lived in a very open environment with little concealment.
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Posted: 4/20/2020 8:00:53 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If so - has anybody ever offered some sort of DBM modification ? Shuff's |
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Posted: 4/20/2020 8:03:00 PM EDT
[#41]
The “people” that fight from and live in caves use the AK. I’d say living in a cave is darn close to being in a SHTF scenario
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Posted: 4/20/2020 8:07:27 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The “people” that fight from and live in caves use the AK. I’d say living in a cave is darn close to being in a SHTF scenario I'm sure that has nothing to do with years of both Soviet bloc and western nations dumping free AKs on them like it was toys for tots. |
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Posted: 4/20/2020 8:08:10 PM EDT
[#43]
Pick either one, then use it to get an AR in 5.56.
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Posted: 4/20/2020 8:11:23 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Pick either one, then use it to get an AR in 5.56. Dats my dawg |
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Posted: 4/20/2020 8:26:36 PM EDT
[#45]
garand
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Posted: 4/20/2020 8:32:41 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It won't, but the clips might. Weakest link. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: But, unlike an AK, the Garand will probably never break!  When was the last (or first) time you saw a Garand clip break? Those things are tough. |
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Posted: 4/20/2020 9:36:00 PM EDT
[#47]
East of the Mississippi, the AK will be handy in the heavy woods and short range engagements
West of the Mississippi, the Garand will stretch its legs and let you schwack a bad guy before he gets into your zip code. So, it depends. |
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Posted: 4/20/2020 9:37:28 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The assumption in this scenario is that we start with TONS of ammo, so hopefully we would never even have to scrounge for any additional. Still, it's a valid point, and certainly the AK would be able to easily handle pretty much ANY ammo. ... but there's also a lot of myth and dis-information about bent-oprods and stuff like that. My impression (after reading a lot about it) is that most commercial hunting ammo will shoot fine in a Garand. You will probably get some excess wear and tear over time, possibly erosion of the gas port, but it would be VERY ODD for a commercial 150gr. load to damage a Garand, especially to "blow it apart"  . Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: It's an interesting question. Obviously, there are tons of AK variants in the US, so 7.62x39 would be pretty common. But, .30-06 is a very popular hunting cartridge, so it probably wouldn't be impossible to find. You can't just shoot whatever 30.06 ammo you want in a Garand. Many hunting rounds have way more pressure than M2 ball ammo, which is what the Garand was designed for. Watched a guy refuse to listen to advice and shot some of the 150gr PNC ammo in his rifle. Blew it apart before he could get through a single enbloc. For that reason, AK for me. And I LOVE Garands. The assumption in this scenario is that we start with TONS of ammo, so hopefully we would never even have to scrounge for any additional. Still, it's a valid point, and certainly the AK would be able to easily handle pretty much ANY ammo. ... but there's also a lot of myth and dis-information about bent-oprods and stuff like that. My impression (after reading a lot about it) is that most commercial hunting ammo will shoot fine in a Garand. You will probably get some excess wear and tear over time, possibly erosion of the gas port, but it would be VERY ODD for a commercial 150gr. load to damage a Garand, especially to "blow it apart" . schuster plug FTW |
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Posted: 4/20/2020 9:50:08 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: schuster plug FTW Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: It's an interesting question. Obviously, there are tons of AK variants in the US, so 7.62x39 would be pretty common. But, .30-06 is a very popular hunting cartridge, so it probably wouldn't be impossible to find. You can't just shoot whatever 30.06 ammo you want in a Garand. Many hunting rounds have way more pressure than M2 ball ammo, which is what the Garand was designed for. Watched a guy refuse to listen to advice and shot some of the 150gr PNC ammo in his rifle. Blew it apart before he could get through a single enbloc. For that reason, AK for me. And I LOVE Garands. The assumption in this scenario is that we start with TONS of ammo, so hopefully we would never even have to scrounge for any additional. Still, it's a valid point, and certainly the AK would be able to easily handle pretty much ANY ammo. ... but there's also a lot of myth and dis-information about bent-oprods and stuff like that. My impression (after reading a lot about it) is that most commercial hunting ammo will shoot fine in a Garand. You will probably get some excess wear and tear over time, possibly erosion of the gas port, but it would be VERY ODD for a commercial 150gr. load to damage a Garand, especially to "blow it apart" . schuster plug FTW Yeah, but the scenario specifies a basic “factory” rifle. |
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Posted: 4/20/2020 9:58:08 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, but the scenario specifies a basic “factory” rifle. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: It's an interesting question. Obviously, there are tons of AK variants in the US, so 7.62x39 would be pretty common. But, .30-06 is a very popular hunting cartridge, so it probably wouldn't be impossible to find. You can't just shoot whatever 30.06 ammo you want in a Garand. Many hunting rounds have way more pressure than M2 ball ammo, which is what the Garand was designed for. Watched a guy refuse to listen to advice and shot some of the 150gr PNC ammo in his rifle. Blew it apart before he could get through a single enbloc. For that reason, AK for me. And I LOVE Garands. The assumption in this scenario is that we start with TONS of ammo, so hopefully we would never even have to scrounge for any additional. Still, it's a valid point, and certainly the AK would be able to easily handle pretty much ANY ammo. ... but there's also a lot of myth and dis-information about bent-oprods and stuff like that. My impression (after reading a lot about it) is that most commercial hunting ammo will shoot fine in a Garand. You will probably get some excess wear and tear over time, possibly erosion of the gas port, but it would be VERY ODD for a commercial 150gr. load to damage a Garand, especially to "blow it apart" . schuster plug FTW Yeah, but the scenario specifies a basic “factory” rifle. Fuck your scenario. I'm getting my old Yugo M53 in 7.62 back. I'll be lord humongous of the TP wastelands. |
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