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Quoted: Err, arn't eating all those eggs bad for your cholesterol? Sorry, just having some severe skeptism regarding eating only meat. Although, I do want to do it. Just need to work past some of these hang ups. View Quote 1. Dietary cholesterol has very little effect on blood cholesterol; the worst effects are from sugar. 2. Serum cholesterol has nearly no effect on heart disease. Tough to keep up on the new info, but it's out there. Very hard to overcome decades of non-science. |
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Quoted: This is what I had tonight: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/51536/2020-08-11_19_45_58-1542653.jpg Pork tenderloin (God I love sous vide) seared in butter with some rosemary and thyme, along with some shallots, mushroom and Gala apple cooked in the same skillet I seared the pork in, along with some butter and a Pinot Grigio reduction. Lose the rosemary, thyme, shallots, mushroom, apple and the wine if you're going carnivore. And eat the entire tenderloin roast, instead of the 12oz of it you see on my plate. Enjoy. Other ideas: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/51536/2020-07-26_18_43_50-1520627.jpg Smoked brisket, with bacon and baby red potato tossed in apple cider vinegar and a little chopped Italian flat leaf parsley. Lose the potatoes, the apple cider vinegar and the parsley if you're going carnivore. And eat more than the 10oz of brisket I did. Enjoy. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/51536/2020-05-22_18_19_12-1482884.jpg Rosemary and thyme crusted center cut pork chop, on a bed of kale massaged in a homemade Dijon vinaigrette, with some sauted shallot and apple, topped with a homemade roasted red pepper romesco (because I'll put that delicious shit on anything). Just eat the pork chop if you're going carnivore (and nix the herbs). The rest of that will make you fat. Enjoy. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/51536/2020-06-16_21_19_31-1483211.jpg Calf liver and onion, with a buttermilk and red wine sauce, some garlic, and a little too much Italian parsley, in retrospect. Lose the onion, the wine, the parsley, the garlic, the olive oil, the buttermilk, and I think I even used a little cornstarch in a lazy attempt to thicken the sauce on this one. At any rate, organ meats are incredibly nutritious - they're like nature's multivitamin. If you're going carnivore, you should eat them. What you see on that plate (8oz worth) is plenty for the whole week. Enjoy. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/51536/2020-05-17_20_51_58-1465873.jpg Sirloin (topped with more of that bomb-ass romesco of mine), spinach, Kalamata olives, and some red wine vinegar. Just eat the sirloin. The rest of that will give you the beetus. Enjoy. More weeknight meal ideas from Casa de Subnet (don't eat any of the vegetables you see - that's what food eats): https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/51536/fullsizeoutput_307-434641.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/51536/fullsizeoutput_33e-445029.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/51536/2018-01-25_01_45_20-430738.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/51536/58F33C5B-9682-40CA-BE1C-85F5699B6DA4-394902.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/51536/4536F1F1-F0B7-4C25-8865-58658B18CB86-388409.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/51536/IMG_1708-358830.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/51536/bBUMGdiRTvKVIbRcc1Y6uw-358813.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/51536/fullsizeoutput_14c-322666.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/51536/IMG_0327_JPG-292287.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/51536/IMG_1557_JPG-294054.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/51536/fullsizeoutput-f8-264562.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/51536/fullsizeoutput-6e-211033.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/51536/fullsizeoutput-6a-204668.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/51536/fullsizeoutput-50-197547.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/51536/fullsizeoutput-4a-191921.jpg And so on... View Quote Are you suggesting these meals in response to the request for examples of the carnivore diet? B because I'm not sure you understand what that is exactly. |
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Quoted: You do not ingest all of those nasty chemicals that they get sprayed with. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Just curious as to what the benefit to not eating vegetables is. You do not ingest all of those nasty chemicals that they get sprayed with. Nor all the toxins the plants themselves produce to prevent getting eaten. |
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Quoted: I’m late and didn’t read the thread past the OP as usual. I assume you are inquiring about weight loss tactics since you mentioned the keto stuff. We all know Caloric deficit is the only way to lose weight. If eating only meat or anything else for that matter gets you in that deficit then it will work. I prefer eating a large balanced meal once a day. Protein/carbs/fat in about the ratio of 60:20:20. View Quote Actually this thread isn't the only thing you missed. "Caloric deficit" is 1990s non-science. It goes with calories in/calories out, a calorie is a calorie, etc. It has been the guidance since 1980 when we REALLY started getting obese. If you think 300 calories of fatty steak has the same impact on your body as 2 12oz cans of Coke, then you believe a caloric deficit is the ticket. Hormones, particularly insulin, short circuit the laws of thermodynamics. Only Coca Cola Inc. really tries to tout that BS today-- along with the company that makes Metformin. |
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Quoted: Are you suggesting these meals in response to the request for examples of the carnivore diet? B because I'm not sure you understand what that is exactly. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: This is what I had tonight: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/51536/2020-08-11_19_45_58-1542653.jpg Pork tenderloin (God I love sous vide) seared in butter with some rosemary and thyme, along with some shallots, mushroom and Gala apple cooked in the same skillet I seared the pork in, along with some butter and a Pinot Grigio reduction. Lose the rosemary, thyme, shallots, mushroom, apple and the wine if you're going carnivore. And eat the entire tenderloin roast, instead of the 12oz of it you see on my plate. Enjoy. Other ideas: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/51536/2020-07-26_18_43_50-1520627.jpg Smoked brisket, with bacon and baby red potato tossed in apple cider vinegar and a little chopped Italian flat leaf parsley. Lose the potatoes, the apple cider vinegar and the parsley if you're going carnivore. And eat more than the 10oz of brisket I did. Enjoy. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/51536/2020-05-22_18_19_12-1482884.jpg Rosemary and thyme crusted center cut pork chop, on a bed of kale massaged in a homemade Dijon vinaigrette, with some sauted shallot and apple, topped with a homemade roasted red pepper romesco (because I'll put that delicious shit on anything). Just eat the pork chop if you're going carnivore (and nix the herbs). The rest of that will make you fat. Enjoy. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/51536/2020-06-16_21_19_31-1483211.jpg Calf liver and onion, with a buttermilk and red wine sauce, some garlic, and a little too much Italian parsley, in retrospect. Lose the onion, the wine, the parsley, the garlic, the olive oil, the buttermilk, and I think I even used a little cornstarch in a lazy attempt to thicken the sauce on this one. At any rate, organ meats are incredibly nutritious - they're like nature's multivitamin. If you're going carnivore, you should eat them. What you see on that plate (8oz worth) is plenty for the whole week. Enjoy. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/51536/2020-05-17_20_51_58-1465873.jpg Sirloin (topped with more of that bomb-ass romesco of mine), spinach, Kalamata olives, and some red wine vinegar. Just eat the sirloin. The rest of that will give you the beetus. Enjoy. More weeknight meal ideas from Casa de Subnet (don't eat any of the vegetables you see - that's what food eats): https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/51536/fullsizeoutput_307-434641.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/51536/fullsizeoutput_33e-445029.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/51536/2018-01-25_01_45_20-430738.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/51536/58F33C5B-9682-40CA-BE1C-85F5699B6DA4-394902.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/51536/4536F1F1-F0B7-4C25-8865-58658B18CB86-388409.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/51536/IMG_1708-358830.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/51536/bBUMGdiRTvKVIbRcc1Y6uw-358813.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/51536/fullsizeoutput_14c-322666.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/51536/IMG_0327_JPG-292287.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/51536/IMG_1557_JPG-294054.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/51536/fullsizeoutput-f8-264562.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/51536/fullsizeoutput-6e-211033.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/51536/fullsizeoutput-6a-204668.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/51536/fullsizeoutput-50-197547.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/51536/fullsizeoutput-4a-191921.jpg And so on... Are you suggesting these meals in response to the request for examples of the carnivore diet? B because I'm not sure you understand what that is exactly. |
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Quoted: Actually this thread isn't the only thing you missed. "Caloric deficit" is 1990s non-science. It goes with calories in/calories out, a calorie is a calorie, etc. It has been the guidance since 1980 when we REALLY started getting obese. If you think 300 calories of fatty steak has the same impact on your body as 2 12oz cans of Coke, then you believe a caloric deficit is the ticket. Hormones, particularly insulin, short circuit the laws of thermodynamics. Only Coca Cola Inc. really tries to tout that BS today-- along with the company that makes Metformin. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I’m late and didn’t read the thread past the OP as usual. I assume you are inquiring about weight loss tactics since you mentioned the keto stuff. We all know Caloric deficit is the only way to lose weight. If eating only meat or anything else for that matter gets you in that deficit then it will work. I prefer eating a large balanced meal once a day. Protein/carbs/fat in about the ratio of 60:20:20. Actually this thread isn't the only thing you missed. "Caloric deficit" is 1990s non-science. It goes with calories in/calories out, a calorie is a calorie, etc. It has been the guidance since 1980 when we REALLY started getting obese. If you think 300 calories of fatty steak has the same impact on your body as 2 12oz cans of Coke, then you believe a caloric deficit is the ticket. Hormones, particularly insulin, short circuit the laws of thermodynamics. Only Coca Cola Inc. really tries to tout that BS today-- along with the company that makes Metformin. You are correct. Clearly I should have clarified. I did not mean or say you could live off coca cola in a caloric deficit. Carry on, carry on. |
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Quoted: Actually this thread isn't the only thing you missed. "Caloric deficit" is 1990s non-science. It goes with calories in/calories out, a calorie is a calorie, etc. It has been the guidance since 1980 when we REALLY started getting obese. If you think 300 calories of fatty steak has the same impact on your body as 2 12oz cans of Coke, then you believe a caloric deficit is the ticket. Hormones, particularly insulin, short circuit the laws of thermodynamics. Only Coca Cola Inc. really tries to tout that BS today-- along with the company that makes Metformin. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I'm late and didn't read the thread past the OP as usual. I assume you are inquiring about weight loss tactics since you mentioned the keto stuff. We all know Caloric deficit is the only way to lose weight. If eating only meat or anything else for that matter gets you in that deficit then it will work. I prefer eating a large balanced meal once a day. Protein/carbs/fat in about the ratio of 60:20:20. Actually this thread isn't the only thing you missed. "Caloric deficit" is 1990s non-science. It goes with calories in/calories out, a calorie is a calorie, etc. It has been the guidance since 1980 when we REALLY started getting obese. If you think 300 calories of fatty steak has the same impact on your body as 2 12oz cans of Coke, then you believe a caloric deficit is the ticket. Hormones, particularly insulin, short circuit the laws of thermodynamics. Only Coca Cola Inc. really tries to tout that BS today-- along with the company that makes Metformin.
You know you've dialed your diet and lifestyle in, when you eat to satiety when hungry, don't bother eating when you're not, and are either losing weight (if overweight) or maintaining your current weight (if at a healthy bodyfat percentage) - and (critically) you're able to do this by simply listening to your own body. I'm of the opinion that any diet that requires precise calculation of caloric content and precise knowledge of metabolic rate in order to maintain a reasonably lean physique, is broken in some way. If you eat to satiety when hungry and don't eat when you're not, you should be either maintaining a healthy weight without thinking about it, or losing weight if you've got too much fat on you. Without thinking about it. If either of those are not happening, you're metabolically broken in some way, and it's probably because you're eating something you shouldn't...in quantities you shouldn't. You then have to figure out why, and make some adjustments. But if you're losing weight, you are in fact eating at a caloric deficit over time. The shortfall in calories is coming from your stored fat, thus keeping your energy balance...well, balanced. But carnivore or not, you can't eat 5000+ calories a day and expect to lean out. And if your nutrition is dialed in like it should be (opinions vary on what that looks like - I say it's hyper-individualized), you won't feel the need to even try. |
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Quoted: So I have yet another question: So doing research on Carnivore, I noticed a heavy emphasis where you get most of your calories from fat, and then the rest from protein. I would have thought it would be the reverse. Why not lean protein meats, lean cuts of steak, chicken, fish etc? I thought a high protein, mid-low levels fats, zero carbs would be best. I would eat Top Round steak, grilled Chicken breast, fist, crab, shrimp. All of those have fats, but much less than fatty cuts of meat like T-Bone or Rib Eye. Majority fat, rest protein seems contrary to my mind. View Quote That's because you're coming from the Low Fat/High Carb Standard American Diet mindset. If you remove carbohydrates from your diet, your body has to get it's energy from SOMEWHERE. In the case of keto/carnivore, that energy comes from fat, either dietary or body fat. When trying to lose weight, you consume just enough dietary fat to stay full and let your body eat it's OWN fat for energy. And when you get to a maintenance phase, you up the dietary fat and stop burning body fat. When I was 298 lbs, I ate more salmon and pork loin and was able to burn mostly body fat. Now, at 185, I have to eat fattier cuts of meat, or I'm ravenous the next day. ETA: I ran today's meal through CarbManager and it was 66% calories from fat/34% from protein. Overall, 155g of protein, 126g of fat, and 1.7g of carbs (all from eggs). YMMV |
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Quoted: That's because you're coming from the Low Fat/High Carb Standard American Diet mindset. If you remove carbohydrates from your diet, your body has to get it's energy from SOMEWHERE. In the case of keto/carnivore, that energy comes from fat, either dietary or body fat. When trying to lose weight, you consume just enough dietary fat to stay full and let your body eat it's OWN fat for energy. And when you get to a maintenance phase, you up the dietary fat and stop burning body fat. When I was 298 lbs, I ate more salmon and pork loin and was able to burn mostly body fat. Now, at 185, I have to eat fattier cuts of meat, or I'm ravenous the next day. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: So I have yet another question: So doing research on Carnivore, I noticed a heavy emphasis where you get most of your calories from fat, and then the rest from protein. I would have thought it would be the reverse. Why not lean protein meats, lean cuts of steak, chicken, fish etc? I thought a high protein, mid-low levels fats, zero carbs would be best. I would eat Top Round steak, grilled Chicken breast, fist, crab, shrimp. All of those have fats, but much less than fatty cuts of meat like T-Bone or Rib Eye. Majority fat, rest protein seems contrary to my mind. That's because you're coming from the Low Fat/High Carb Standard American Diet mindset. If you remove carbohydrates from your diet, your body has to get it's energy from SOMEWHERE. In the case of keto/carnivore, that energy comes from fat, either dietary or body fat. When trying to lose weight, you consume just enough dietary fat to stay full and let your body eat it's OWN fat for energy. And when you get to a maintenance phase, you up the dietary fat and stop burning body fat. When I was 298 lbs, I ate more salmon and pork loin and was able to burn mostly body fat. Now, at 185, I have to eat fattier cuts of meat, or I'm ravenous the next day. |
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Quoted: And I have the disgusting before pics to prove it View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes I'm at 170 (I'm 5'10"), but I've resisted doing the whole "look what I did!" thing with the after photos. I'm not done leaning out yet (it's still dropping), and I don't think it's all that interesting to share until you've been at a very healthy weight for a year, minimum. I'll do the whole before/after montage after I look damn good without a shirt on. And then I'll put that shirt on for the pic, because nobody wants to see a married douchebag in his 40's showing off his abs. |
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Quoted: Some plants do rely on herbivores eating them for propagation and dispersal. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: https://sciencenordic.com/denmark-food-and-nutrition-videnskabdk/how-plants-use-chemical-weapons-to-protect-themselves/1439939 https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2013/10/01/228221063/when-edible-plants-turn-their-defenses-on-us sciencedaily.com/terms/plant_defense_against_herbivory.htm https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/12/181205142716.htm All life is in a constant state of competition. Some plants do rely on herbivores eating them for propagation and dispersal. @researchanddestroy You probably already know this, but chili peppers produce capsaicin which stimulates heat receptors in the mouths of mammals and discourages them from eating them. It makes sense since mammal teeth will damage seeds. Birds, on the other hand, don't have receptors that respond to capsaicin, and the seeds get dispersed far and wide. |
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Quoted: Plants often produce toxins as their defense against predation, since they can't run. The theory is that less toxins equals less inflammation and immune system issues. I personally think that as long as you're getting enough fat it'll probably work out just fine. View Quote |
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I did. After 4 months I had lost 35lbs. Had to get a physical for work. All of my cholesterol and triglycerides were within normal.
I used to be on medication for extremely high cholesterol and tryglycerides (1200 range). I was holding my breath dreading the worst during the physical. 4 months of bacon eggs sausage pork chops chicken, etc. Carb flu is very real in the beginning. I quit wearing glasses, vision is crystal clear and I blame the glasses on cholesterol or blood sugar. After a year and half with a short break (hunting trip) I’m doing great. I do take vitamins and zinc because of the Covid shit. |
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Quoted: I did. After 4 months I had lost 35lbs. Had to get a physical for work. All of my cholesterol and triglycerides were within normal. I used to be on medication for extremely high cholesterol and tryglycerides (1200 range). I was holding my breath dreading the worst during the physical. 4 months of bacon eggs sausage pork chops chicken, etc. Carb flu is very real in the beginning. I quit wearing glasses, vision is crystal clear and I blame the glasses on cholesterol or blood sugar. After a year and half with a short break (hunting trip) I'm doing great. I do take vitamins and zinc because of the Covid shit. View Quote |
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Quoted: That's because you're coming from the Low Fat/High Carb Standard American Diet mindset. If you remove carbohydrates from your diet, your body has to get it's energy from SOMEWHERE. In the case of keto/carnivore, that energy comes from fat, either dietary or body fat. When trying to lose weight, you consume just enough dietary fat to stay full and let your body eat it's OWN fat for energy. And when you get to a maintenance phase, you up the dietary fat and stop burning body fat. When I was 298 lbs, I ate more salmon and pork loin and was able to burn mostly body fat. Now, at 185, I have to eat fattier cuts of meat, or I'm ravenous the next day. ETA: I ran today's meal through CarbManager and it was 66% calories from fat/34% from protein. Overall, 155g of protein, 126g of fat, and 1.7g of carbs (all from eggs). YMMV View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: So I have yet another question: So doing research on Carnivore, I noticed a heavy emphasis where you get most of your calories from fat, and then the rest from protein. I would have thought it would be the reverse. Why not lean protein meats, lean cuts of steak, chicken, fish etc? I thought a high protein, mid-low levels fats, zero carbs would be best. I would eat Top Round steak, grilled Chicken breast, fist, crab, shrimp. All of those have fats, but much less than fatty cuts of meat like T-Bone or Rib Eye. Majority fat, rest protein seems contrary to my mind. That's because you're coming from the Low Fat/High Carb Standard American Diet mindset. If you remove carbohydrates from your diet, your body has to get it's energy from SOMEWHERE. In the case of keto/carnivore, that energy comes from fat, either dietary or body fat. When trying to lose weight, you consume just enough dietary fat to stay full and let your body eat it's OWN fat for energy. And when you get to a maintenance phase, you up the dietary fat and stop burning body fat. When I was 298 lbs, I ate more salmon and pork loin and was able to burn mostly body fat. Now, at 185, I have to eat fattier cuts of meat, or I'm ravenous the next day. ETA: I ran today's meal through CarbManager and it was 66% calories from fat/34% from protein. Overall, 155g of protein, 126g of fat, and 1.7g of carbs (all from eggs). YMMV This makes sense. I'm still a bit nervous. What if I were to start gradually? Say I ate mostly meat, but had a small bit of vegetables in the early part of the day? And gradually increased my fat content over a course of days/weeks while moderating my vegetable content? So I would start off eating for Breakfast: Free range pasteured Eggs with Bacon, with a veggie blended consisting of blueberries, Kale, and tomato juice. Lunch: Grass fed Ribeye steak with some sauteed onions or bell peppers Dinner: Some Pork Tenderloin with a small side of raw carrots Once or twice a week I would have some grass fed liver, kidney or oysters. It would essentially be a mostly steak/eggs/liver/meat diet, but some low cal vegetables once in a while for some variety. All in all, it would probably be less than 200g of vegetables a day. And I increase my fat intake intake if my body seems sluggish. I could honestly probably easily do without the blended blueberry/kale/tomato smoothie in the morning; it's just a habit due to its purported antioxidants that we've heard for years. |
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Quoted: Since you're straight carnivore, check out the zinc content in oysters when you get a minute. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I did. After 4 months I had lost 35lbs. Had to get a physical for work. All of my cholesterol and triglycerides were within normal. I used to be on medication for extremely high cholesterol and tryglycerides (1200 range). I was holding my breath dreading the worst during the physical. 4 months of bacon eggs sausage pork chops chicken, etc. Carb flu is very real in the beginning. I quit wearing glasses, vision is crystal clear and I blame the glasses on cholesterol or blood sugar. After a year and half with a short break (hunting trip) I'm doing great. I do take vitamins and zinc because of the Covid shit. Will do, thanks! |
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Quoted: You have to quantify "normal" Normal now seems to be massive portions, with carb heavy food, which is fine if you are burning 3000-4000 calories a day, but most people aren't. Even physical labor is way less labor instensive now, we have diesel and hydraulics. Civilization popped up and flourished when farming became popular, we could easily store calorie dense carb based food for long periods of time, so people were able to specialize their labor. Those people did just fine like that, being very fat used to be a sign of wealth, because it meant you could eat more than most people and did far less work. Now being fat is just a sign of lack of self control. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Herbivores: https://cdn.hswstatic.com/gif/hippo-sunscreen.jpg https://www.iucn.org/sites/dev/files/styles/850x500_no_menu_article/public/content/images/2020/south-western_black_rhino_facing_right_c_dave_hamman_photography.jpg?itok=Q7SkAeKV https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e2/d9/94/e2d9947a14c1d2d996fcfb0270186f44.jpg Carnivores: https://lp-cms-production.imgix.net/image_browser/leopard-africa-safari.jpg?format=auto?crop=entropy&fit=crop&h=421&sharp=10&vib=20&w=748 https://assets-jpcust.jwpsrv.com/thumbnails/rytmbwxn-720.jpg https://imgk.timesnownews.com/story/black_panther.jpg?tr=w-1200,h-900 Gorillas and horses are vegetarians and are jacked as fuck, as are omnivorous chimps. I'm all for meat. I love it. I feel best eating lots of meat and lots of veggies. I'm just immensely skeptical of all this talk about how it's impossible to get healthy or lose weight on a "normal" diet. America was a country of non-fatasses for a long time. That changed with the prevalence of processed (calorically dense, non filling) food and huge portions. "Calories in, calories out" isn't everything. But it is a huge thing (probably like 80% plus, according to Israetel). You have to quantify "normal" Normal now seems to be massive portions, with carb heavy food, which is fine if you are burning 3000-4000 calories a day, but most people aren't. Even physical labor is way less labor instensive now, we have diesel and hydraulics. Civilization popped up and flourished when farming became popular, we could easily store calorie dense carb based food for long periods of time, so people were able to specialize their labor. Those people did just fine like that, being very fat used to be a sign of wealth, because it meant you could eat more than most people and did far less work. Now being fat is just a sign of lack of self control. +1 Holy fuck, we eat waaaaay too much food! It's not our fault since our brains are deeply wired for it as we didn't know where our next meal was coming from. |
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Quoted: This makes sense. I'm still a bit nervous. What if I were to start gradually? Say I ate mostly meat, but had a small bit of vegetables in the early part of the day? And gradually increased my fat content over a course of days/weeks while moderating my vegetable content? So I would start off eating for Breakfast: Free range pasteured Eggs with Bacon, with a veggie blended consisting of blueberries, Kale, and tomato juice. Lunch: Grass fed Ribeye steak with some sauteed onions or bell peppers Dinner: Some Pork Tenderloin with a small side of raw carrots Once or twice a week I would have some grass fed liver, kidney or oysters. It would essentially be a mostly steak/eggs/liver/meat diet, but some low cal vegetables once in a while for some variety. All in all, it would probably be less than 200g of vegetables a day. And I increase my fat intake intake if my body seems sluggish. I could honestly probably easily do without the blended blueberry/kale/tomato smoothie in the morning; it's just a habit due to its purported antioxidants that we've heard for years. View Quote |
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Quoted: I never went carnivore, but I did go raw meat for a while. I ate my beef, chicken breast and eggs raw. Beef and chicken are extremely delicious raw. There is a delicate sweetness to both that gets lost when cooked, raw chicken especially. Eggs are kind of gross raw, but it's quick and convenient. Havn't tried many other meats raw, but I've heard of people eating all sorts of raw meats. Not only that, I feel that eating meat raw conveys plenty of health benefits. For one, you don't need to buy uber fatty cuts of beef for tenderness because you're not cooking it. Cooking beef tends to dry it out, so having that extra marbling keeps it full of juice and flavor. When you eat it raw, you can get leaner cuts and have a succulent and tasty meal. Another benefit is that cooking meat tends to add bad stuff to it, afaik. I'm not an expert so take this with a grain of salt, but from what I've heard is that cooking steak adds carcinogens that are obviously avoided when eating raw. Last benefit is prep time. Far easier to prepare when you're not cooking it. I might just add some salt and pepper, and eat! I can't recommend raw meats enough. If you do it, make sure you get your meats are a reputable butcher shop, and let them know what you're planning to do. If you are nervous, freezing meats at or below 32 degrees for 14 days will kill everything. I never did that, so I can't comment on the resulting flavor, but something to think about. View Quote @By Frostburg 1) No way would I recommend raw beef or chicken from commercial sources. Way too much chance of getting some nasty, nasty bacteria. Also, freezing doesn't reliably kill all classes of pathogens, especially spore-forming bacteria. It also won't destroy heat-labile toxins such as Botulinum toxin, and certainly won't do anything to heat-stabile ones like Staphylotoxin. 2) Wild game and fowl are much less likely to harbor any bad bacteria, so I could see eating that (more) safely. As an example, when I cook wild duck, the juices run red, but for commercial ducks, the juices need to run clear. 3) You are correct about grilling meat and carcinogens, specifically Nitrosamines. |
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Quoted: I'm a big fan of "you do you". If that meal plan makes you feel good and helps you accomplish your goal, go for it. You're certainly not eating a bunch of processed garbage, that's for sure. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: This makes sense. I'm still a bit nervous. What if I were to start gradually? Say I ate mostly meat, but had a small bit of vegetables in the early part of the day? And gradually increased my fat content over a course of days/weeks while moderating my vegetable content? So I would start off eating for Breakfast: Free range pasteured Eggs with Bacon, with a veggie blended consisting of blueberries, Kale, and tomato juice. Lunch: Grass fed Ribeye steak with some sauteed onions or bell peppers Dinner: Some Pork Tenderloin with a small side of raw carrots Once or twice a week I would have some grass fed liver, kidney or oysters. It would essentially be a mostly steak/eggs/liver/meat diet, but some low cal vegetables once in a while for some variety. All in all, it would probably be less than 200g of vegetables a day. And I increase my fat intake intake if my body seems sluggish. I could honestly probably easily do without the blended blueberry/kale/tomato smoothie in the morning; it's just a habit due to its purported antioxidants that we've heard for years. Yes, but do you think that my hypothetical "baby-steps plan" would confer many of the same benefits of a true certified Carnivore diet, even if only to a lesser degree? |
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Quoted: Yes, but do you think that my hypothetical "baby-steps plan" would confer many of the same benefits of a true certified Carnivore diet, even if only to a lesser degree? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: This makes sense. I'm still a bit nervous. What if I were to start gradually? Say I ate mostly meat, but had a small bit of vegetables in the early part of the day? And gradually increased my fat content over a course of days/weeks while moderating my vegetable content? So I would start off eating for Breakfast: Free range pasteured Eggs with Bacon, with a veggie blended consisting of blueberries, Kale, and tomato juice. Lunch: Grass fed Ribeye steak with some sauteed onions or bell peppers Dinner: Some Pork Tenderloin with a small side of raw carrots Once or twice a week I would have some grass fed liver, kidney or oysters. It would essentially be a mostly steak/eggs/liver/meat diet, but some low cal vegetables once in a while for some variety. All in all, it would probably be less than 200g of vegetables a day. And I increase my fat intake intake if my body seems sluggish. I could honestly probably easily do without the blended blueberry/kale/tomato smoothie in the morning; it's just a habit due to its purported antioxidants that we've heard for years. Yes, but do you think that my hypothetical "baby-steps plan" would confer many of the same benefits of a true certified Carnivore diet, even if only to a lesser degree? |
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I like mushrooms and po-tat-oes way too much.
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Quoted: I am curious as the benefit of eating vegtebales. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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There is no way a garden full of vegetables grown in compost-rich soil is bad for anyone. Eat all the meat you want, but for God's sake supplement it with a salad once in a while.
Processed carbs are the devil, soda is toxic, and the only way to truly lose weight is to maintain a caloric deficit over time. But fresh grown vegetables are nothing but supplemental nourishment for the body |
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Quoted: This makes sense. I'm still a bit nervous. What if I were to start gradually? Say I ate mostly meat, but had a small bit of vegetables in the early part of the day? And gradually increased my fat content over a course of days/weeks while moderating my vegetable content? So I would start off eating for Breakfast: Free range pasteured Eggs with Bacon, with a veggie blended consisting of blueberries, Kale, and tomato juice. Lunch: Grass fed Ribeye steak with some sauteed onions or bell peppers Dinner: Some Pork Tenderloin with a small side of raw carrots Once or twice a week I would have some grass fed liver, kidney or oysters. It would essentially be a mostly steak/eggs/liver/meat diet, but some low cal vegetables once in a while for some variety. All in all, it would probably be less than 200g of vegetables a day. And I increase my fat intake intake if my body seems sluggish. I could honestly probably easily do without the blended blueberry/kale/tomato smoothie in the morning; it's just a habit due to its purported antioxidants that we've heard for years. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: So I have yet another question: So doing research on Carnivore, I noticed a heavy emphasis where you get most of your calories from fat, and then the rest from protein. I would have thought it would be the reverse. Why not lean protein meats, lean cuts of steak, chicken, fish etc? I thought a high protein, mid-low levels fats, zero carbs would be best. I would eat Top Round steak, grilled Chicken breast, fist, crab, shrimp. All of those have fats, but much less than fatty cuts of meat like T-Bone or Rib Eye. Majority fat, rest protein seems contrary to my mind. That's because you're coming from the Low Fat/High Carb Standard American Diet mindset. If you remove carbohydrates from your diet, your body has to get it's energy from SOMEWHERE. In the case of keto/carnivore, that energy comes from fat, either dietary or body fat. When trying to lose weight, you consume just enough dietary fat to stay full and let your body eat it's OWN fat for energy. And when you get to a maintenance phase, you up the dietary fat and stop burning body fat. When I was 298 lbs, I ate more salmon and pork loin and was able to burn mostly body fat. Now, at 185, I have to eat fattier cuts of meat, or I'm ravenous the next day. ETA: I ran today's meal through CarbManager and it was 66% calories from fat/34% from protein. Overall, 155g of protein, 126g of fat, and 1.7g of carbs (all from eggs). YMMV This makes sense. I'm still a bit nervous. What if I were to start gradually? Say I ate mostly meat, but had a small bit of vegetables in the early part of the day? And gradually increased my fat content over a course of days/weeks while moderating my vegetable content? So I would start off eating for Breakfast: Free range pasteured Eggs with Bacon, with a veggie blended consisting of blueberries, Kale, and tomato juice. Lunch: Grass fed Ribeye steak with some sauteed onions or bell peppers Dinner: Some Pork Tenderloin with a small side of raw carrots Once or twice a week I would have some grass fed liver, kidney or oysters. It would essentially be a mostly steak/eggs/liver/meat diet, but some low cal vegetables once in a while for some variety. All in all, it would probably be less than 200g of vegetables a day. And I increase my fat intake intake if my body seems sluggish. I could honestly probably easily do without the blended blueberry/kale/tomato smoothie in the morning; it's just a habit due to its purported antioxidants that we've heard for years. After you've done that for a good while, you probably won't find it difficult to do an n=1 experiment on yourself, and just lose the vegetables entirely. Do that for 30 days, and see how it goes (it won't hurt - hell I could go vegan for 30 days, without harming my long term health - I'll just bitch about it the whole time ). It's sort of the ultimate elimination diet. Then, if you decide a month later that a day without fruits and vegetables is like a day without sunshine (I'll kill a motherfucker if I can't get some mushrooms and shallots in...), then start adding them back one by one and see how you feel. Or just keep it straight carnivore, if you like it and feel fine. It's all good. Just don't do what everybody else does (or seems to), and go full-retard falling off the wagon inhaling a rail of girl scout cookies washed down with a bottle of Coke, if you discover that what you've been doing (carnivore or otherwise) just ain't working for you. Use your head. Eat real food you've prepared yourself. It's really hard to fuck that up. |
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Quoted: I like mushrooms and po-tat-oes way too much. Eating one thing just sounds boring. I think I would hate meat after a weak of nothing but meat. View Quote It happens. I actually got sick of eating 1 pound ribeyes every night for dinner. Thats when I switched to 1 pound hamburger patties. |
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So I've been checking out various videos, and it seems alot of people choose grass fed beef for health, but they choose ground beef for money savings. I know this sounds like an idiot question, but every time I've purchased ground beef, it's in a small package, and I cook the entire package in one sitting. I'm guessing that you can't do that if you buy in bulk. Embarrassed to ask this, but once you cut open a pack of ground beef, remove the amount you need to cook, how do you replace the ground beef back into the fridge? Do you repack it into a ziplock bag, do you use bag clips to hold the bag closed on the store packaging? Do you keep it all in a jar? If you freeze your ground beef, how do you remove a portion for cooking without thawing it all out, or do you just cut off chunks with a saw/cleaver? I just don't want the unused portion to go bad if I don't store it properly.
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Ive found that a straight diet of meat in the winter will freeze yer ass, for me. For me I need some green shit and citrus and some grain. Cant go all day in cold weather on straight meat, no energy. NOW my wife is a different story, meat and dairy(cream, ice cream, yogurt, sugar and butter etc is just fine for her. O+
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Quoted: So I've been checking out various videos, and it seems alot of people choose grass fed beef for health, but they choose ground beef for money savings. I know this sounds like an idiot question, but every time I've purchased ground beef, it's in a small package, and I cook the entire package in one sitting. I'm guessing that you can't do that if you buy in bulk. Embarrassed to ask this, but once you cut open a pack of ground beef, remove the amount you need to cook, how do you replace the ground beef back into the fridge? Do you repack it into a ziplock bag, do you use bag clips to hold the bag closed on the store packaging? Do you keep it all in a jar? If you freeze your ground beef, how do you remove a portion for cooking without thawing it all out, or do you just cut off chunks with a saw/cleaver? I just don't want the unused portion to go bad if I don't store it properly. View Quote If I bought a shit ton of ground beef (I rarely do - I much prefer to take a few minutes while I'm standing there anyway and grind my own), I divide the the ground beef into 1lb portions, and vacuum seal them. Into the freezer they go (save for anything I may want that day). On the money savings - if the only thing you're buying at the store is fresh beef, lamb, poultry, pork, eggs and seafood (because that's literally all you're eating, right?) - your grocery bill ain't gonna be that high. |
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Quoted: It’s been 4 months. My guess is thyroid is out of whack. Or stress. Lotta stress. Other theory is that I’ve been hitting the booze a bit more than normal. Or all of the above. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I have been carnivore for 3 years. Lost 120lbs. COVID hit and I've gained 20 back. Not going to the gym sucks. I eat meat, eggs, cheese, and butter. I allow myself one cheat day every 3 weeks. So if I go out to a sushi restaurant or want a pizza, I indulge. Occasionally I will do a beef and butter fast. Just cow and cow accessories. Never felt better, my back pain is gone. Starting the diet blows. The keto flu is a motherfucker. Cholesterol has never been better. I'd say the only issue I have is water retention with pork products. I eat a lot of bacon and sausage. It can accumulate water. Anyone have questions for a 3 year carnivore? It’s been 4 months. My guess is thyroid is out of whack. Or stress. Lotta stress. Other theory is that I’ve been hitting the booze a bit more than normal. Or all of the above. All other variables held constant, it’s pretty wild to see what part booze plays in that equation. |
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Quoted: Question: I'm considering the carnivore diet, but it seems a bit extreme to me. Is there like a carnivore "light" version where I can have some basic raw vegetables and fruit, but still get most of my calories from meat, or is it all or nothing? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I have been carnivore for 3 years. Lost 120lbs. COVID hit and I’ve gained 20 back. Not going to the gym sucks. I eat meat, eggs, cheese, and butter. I allow myself one cheat day every 3 weeks. So if I go out to a sushi restaurant or want a pizza, I indulge. Occasionally I will do a beef and butter fast. Just cow and cow accessories. Never felt better, my back pain is gone. Starting the diet blows. The keto flu is a motherfucker. Cholesterol has never been better. I’d say the only issue I have is water retention with pork products. I eat a lot of bacon and sausage. It can accumulate water. Anyone have questions for a 3 year carnivore? Question: I'm considering the carnivore diet, but it seems a bit extreme to me. Is there like a carnivore "light" version where I can have some basic raw vegetables and fruit, but still get most of my calories from meat, or is it all or nothing? I always eat the parsley sprig that comes with the steak and it doesn’t seem to have any negative impact. |
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I pretty much eat 70% meat in my diet, probably 20% carbs, and the rest fat. I am a bit out of shape and looking to improve my health.
So I had a comprehensive blood panel done and reviewed everything with the doctor. He asked if I ate a lot of fruits and vegetables and healthy type foods. I laughed and told him I eat lots of steak, hamburgers, fast food, etc. and pretty much no fruit or vegetables. He was shocked as my immune system and other numbers were exceptional. I do have slightly high BP but also decent cholesterol numbers so? He was perplexed because my diet doesn't jive with conventional wisdom. Basically told me to exercise more and I could probably manage my high BP and cholesterol without changing my diet. I think genetics also determine a lot with what diet works for you. You should try carnivore and go get a blood panel done. I mean like 500 dollars worth checking shit out and looking at your vitamin levels, hormones, cholesterol, everything. If your numbers look good and you feel good ??. If not modify your diet to improve numbers and how you are feeling. One diet is not going be correct for everyone. Some may do better with carb diet, protien diet, or even a high fat diet or any combination in between. Same with exercise. Some probably would do best with lots of xardio vs others who do strength training. |
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Quoted: This makes sense. I'm still a bit nervous. What if I were to start gradually? Say I ate mostly meat, but had a small bit of vegetables in the early part of the day? And gradually increased my fat content over a course of days/weeks while moderating my vegetable content? So I would start off eating for Breakfast: Free range pasteured Eggs with Bacon, with a veggie blended consisting of blueberries, Kale, and tomato juice. Lunch: Grass fed Ribeye steak with some sauteed onions or bell peppers Dinner: Some Pork Tenderloin with a small side of raw carrots Once or twice a week I would have some grass fed liver, kidney or oysters. It would essentially be a mostly steak/eggs/liver/meat diet, but some low cal vegetables once in a while for some variety. All in all, it would probably be less than 200g of vegetables a day. And I increase my fat intake intake if my body seems sluggish. I could honestly probably easily do without the blended blueberry/kale/tomato smoothie in the morning; it's just a habit due to its purported antioxidants that we've heard for years. View Quote Jesus man. What is there to be nervous about. It's meat. You should probably be nervous about all of the processed crap you have been eating. Quit making excuses and compromises and make results instead. |
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Quoted: I like mushrooms and po-tat-oes way too much. Eating one thing just sounds boring. I think I would hate meat after a weak of nothing but meat. View Quote Maybe, but your body is good at adapting and craving what its thriving on. When I did Keto I developed a craving for butter, like I just wanted it on or in everything all the time. My body wanted me to keep consuming a ton of fat. |
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Quoted: I have a vacuum sealer. When my groceries come in (once a week), I spend an hour or so in the kitchen with that pile of meat and produce on the counter doing some minor "prep", before putting everything away. It's what makes my life easier during the week. Vegetables are washed and cut depending on what they are and what they'll be used in, blocks of cheese are run through the food processor to shred or grate them if I need that handy. Roasts, seafood, steaks, etc are portioned then seasoned (or marinated, or...it just depends what it is) and vacuum sealed before going in freezer or refrigerator, etc, etc. The protein gets plopped into the sous vide bath ~1.5 hours before dinner (or 24 hours before dinner if I'm doing something like a chuck roast or anything else with a lot of connective tissue to break down). I even make the various dressings, condiments and sauces I'll be using that week. I've got a whole routine down. If I bought a shit ton of ground beef (I rarely do - I much prefer to take a few minutes while I'm standing there anyway and grind my own), I divide the the ground beef into 1lb portions, and vacuum seal them. Into the freezer they go (save for anything I may want that day). On the money savings - if the only thing you're buying at the store is fresh beef, lamb, poultry, pork, eggs and seafood (because that's literally all you're eating, right?) - your grocery bill ain't gonna be that high. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: So I've been checking out various videos, and it seems alot of people choose grass fed beef for health, but they choose ground beef for money savings. I know this sounds like an idiot question, but every time I've purchased ground beef, it's in a small package, and I cook the entire package in one sitting. I'm guessing that you can't do that if you buy in bulk. Embarrassed to ask this, but once you cut open a pack of ground beef, remove the amount you need to cook, how do you replace the ground beef back into the fridge? Do you repack it into a ziplock bag, do you use bag clips to hold the bag closed on the store packaging? Do you keep it all in a jar? If you freeze your ground beef, how do you remove a portion for cooking without thawing it all out, or do you just cut off chunks with a saw/cleaver? I just don't want the unused portion to go bad if I don't store it properly. If I bought a shit ton of ground beef (I rarely do - I much prefer to take a few minutes while I'm standing there anyway and grind my own), I divide the the ground beef into 1lb portions, and vacuum seal them. Into the freezer they go (save for anything I may want that day). On the money savings - if the only thing you're buying at the store is fresh beef, lamb, poultry, pork, eggs and seafood (because that's literally all you're eating, right?) - your grocery bill ain't gonna be that high. So I put a vacuum sealer on the shopping list. But I'm buying the ground beef today. What should I do in the interem? Should I put the opened container back in the fridge with the opening rolled closed or clipped somehow? |
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Quoted: So I put a vacuum sealer on the shopping list. But I'm buying the ground beef today. What should I do in the interem? Should I put the opened container back in the fridge with the opening rolled closed or clipped somehow? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: So I've been checking out various videos, and it seems alot of people choose grass fed beef for health, but they choose ground beef for money savings. I know this sounds like an idiot question, but every time I've purchased ground beef, it's in a small package, and I cook the entire package in one sitting. I'm guessing that you can't do that if you buy in bulk. Embarrassed to ask this, but once you cut open a pack of ground beef, remove the amount you need to cook, how do you replace the ground beef back into the fridge? Do you repack it into a ziplock bag, do you use bag clips to hold the bag closed on the store packaging? Do you keep it all in a jar? If you freeze your ground beef, how do you remove a portion for cooking without thawing it all out, or do you just cut off chunks with a saw/cleaver? I just don't want the unused portion to go bad if I don't store it properly. If I bought a shit ton of ground beef (I rarely do - I much prefer to take a few minutes while I'm standing there anyway and grind my own), I divide the the ground beef into 1lb portions, and vacuum seal them. Into the freezer they go (save for anything I may want that day). On the money savings - if the only thing you're buying at the store is fresh beef, lamb, poultry, pork, eggs and seafood (because that's literally all you're eating, right?) - your grocery bill ain't gonna be that high. So I put a vacuum sealer on the shopping list. But I'm buying the ground beef today. What should I do in the interem? Should I put the opened container back in the fridge with the opening rolled closed or clipped somehow? Just throw it in a ziplock bag. |
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Quoted: So I put a vacuum sealer on the shopping list. But I'm buying the ground beef today. What should I do in the interem? Should I put the opened container back in the fridge with the opening rolled closed or clipped somehow? View Quote Or hell, just wrap the package up tight in plastic wrap. It'll be fine in the fridge for a few days. What temp do you keep your fridge at? If you don't know the answer to this, you need to fix that. If you don't have a way to accurately measure it, you need to fix that too. |
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Quoted: Put it in a ziplock bag and press the air out. If you want to get super clever with it, immerse the ziplock (with the beef in it...) in a container of water to force all of the air out, before zipping it shut. Kind of a poor man's sous vide trick for people who don't own vacuum sealers. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: So I put a vacuum sealer on the shopping list. But I'm buying the ground beef today. What should I do in the interem? Should I put the opened container back in the fridge with the opening rolled closed or clipped somehow? I gave up using my vacuum sealer for sous vide because that method is so much simpler. |
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Started at keto than went carnivore... now back to mostly carnivore (veg as condoments not a full side) now im choosing to go back full carnivore but go down to only beef and lamb meat.... again. Im even going to drop coffee for a a few months so i can focus on some skin issues.
Best i ever felt was about 5 weeks into eating only beef lamb and salt the first time i tried it. No joint pain and super clear thinking. |
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So I've been watching tons of content by people who specialize in Carnivore online, youtube, etc. especially, Frank Tufano's videos. The guy is a literal genius of Carnivore, diving into all the nitty gritty of Omega3/Omega6 ratios, fat/protein ratios, all the various vitamins and minerals, grass fed vs. grain fed beef, etc. He literally uses a dry erase board to explain and illustrate carnivore nutrition.
So I did some shopping today at the local Wagshals butcher shop. To start off with, I got a single grass fed sirloin steak, 2 lbs of grass fed ground beef 80/20% fat to protein, a dozen free range eggs, a pound of grass fed butter, 5 ounces of Salmon Roe, and a bunch of Calf liver. I also ordered 5 cans of Cod liver from Amazon, and I will be shopping for fresh Mackerel at my nearby fish market later this week. I'll probably get more meat once I run out of this. I just got small amounts because I don't want it to go bad if my appetite drops. We'll see how this transpires. |
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Quoted: There is no way a garden full of vegetables grown in compost-rich soil is bad for anyone. Eat all the meat you want, but for God's sake supplement it with a salad once in a while. Processed carbs are the devil, soda is toxic, and the only way to truly lose weight is to maintain a caloric deficit over time. But fresh grown vegetables are nothing but supplemental nourishment for the body View Quote Can’t argue with you. My 15 year old saw me losing weight and wanted to start keto. I steered her to paleo for the fruit, berry, and vegetable photo/mineral/vitamin content. She’s doing great with it. |
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Quoted: Plants often produce toxins as their defense against predation, since they can’t run. The theory is that less toxins equals less inflammation and immune system issues. I personally think that as long as you’re getting enough fat it’ll probably work out just fine. View Quote Fat and blood. |
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So now I'm kinda concerned that my fat intake is very low on Carnivore. I know lots of people have said that you need 80%/20% fat/protein ratio, but my body would not be used to that since my diet previous to this has been so low fat. So I'm mostly eating grass fed steak, groundbeef, eggs etc. without much added fat. How much of a problem could this cause me? Or should I just bite the bullet and start adding more fat to my meat?
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Quoted: It’s some dumb neckbeard shit to sound cool. Don’t do it. Humans are meant to eat both meat and vegetables. View Quote The plains Indians ate very few fruits and vegetables. Their diet consisted mainly of meat and they were the healthiest Indians according to Lewis/Clark through their journals. Many Crow Indians commonly lived into their 100's. Lewis/Clark and Company also ate the best in the plains. Once they went west of the divide they became very ill from the change of diet and starved a lot. They resorted to eating dogs. As long as you get good blood and fat in your diet a meat only diet is very doable and healthy. |
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Quoted: So now I'm kinda concerned that my fat intake is very low on Carnivore. I know lots of people have said that you need 80%/20% fat/protein ratio, but my body would not be used to that since my diet previous to this has been so low fat. So I'm mostly eating grass fed steak, groundbeef, eggs etc. without much added fat. How much of a problem could this cause me? Or should I just bite the bullet and start adding more fat to my meat? View Quote If you're worried about the amount of fat you're getting, don't start doing wierd-ass "fat-bomb" hacks to it. Eat fattier parts of the animal. You're eating animals. It's not supposed to be complicated. There's honestly not much to it. A "well-balanced diet" in a carnivore context means eating all of the animal in question, and many different types of animals. Cook the shit and eat it. You'll be fine. |
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Today's meal:
4 eggs, 1 lb of homemade breakfast sausage, 1 tin of sardines, 1 tbsp of butter. According to CarbManager: 230g of fat, 116g of protein, and 5g of carbs (eggs and seasonings in the sausage). Higher than normal fat %, but I was really hungry today. I bought 18 lbs of pork butt to grind into sausage this weekend |
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Quoted: How bad was your diet before carnivore that eating meat makes you shit yourself? View Quote I eat some semblance of primal/paleo/keto 95% of the time. Even with that my body was used to sending more water down south than what was needed for a 100% meat diet. Easing into it a few days a week is probably a better plan. |
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