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Posted: 11/23/2019 7:09:34 PM EDT
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4 normal sized adults can play twister in the back of one of these. https://barnfinds.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/1973-Ford-LTD-Country-Squire.jpg |
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Posted: 11/23/2019 7:19:58 PM EDT
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Because wagons and hatchbacks are extremely functional vehicles. They're more practical for the majority of people who end up buying SUVs and trucks. That is unless you really do want or need the extra space or an open bed. It's like a sedan with a lot more storage space, but you still maintain a lot of sedan fuel efficiency and driving characteristics. |
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Posted: 11/23/2019 7:21:28 PM EDT
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I think it must be detuned or something because reading online it says it still does +8 second 0-60 times. The new Onyx models are nice looking though. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/394169/4B37F1C5-3868-4D80-B7FC-E4610C6C9A67-1171182.jpg Quoted: The engines are the same. Both make 260hp.  I just love how utilitarian they are and love their AWD system. The Audi cars are much sexier but I know too many people that have had hugely expensive Audi money pits.
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Posted: 11/23/2019 7:23:51 PM EDT
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They can’t buy VW busses anymore?
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Posted: 11/23/2019 7:39:34 PM EDT
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No. They suck compared to a good wagon. Most have less room than a station wagon while having a high center of gravity so they drive like a buggy. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That's why crossovers are so popular. They're pretty much just a better station wagon |
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Posted: 11/23/2019 8:35:14 PM EDT
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No. They have a better seating position and more cargo space given equal wheelbases than a wagon. Two things the average driver cares about more than the near identical handling. The CG isn't nearly as affected as you think. Mini vans are superior in every way to the cuv. More room, better seating position, better ride, better handling and better looking though that's not something I would argue or brag about. |
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Posted: 11/23/2019 8:36:55 PM EDT
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Wagons are handy. I grew up with wagons. The SUV is a wagon with a higher ride height. I would consider a big block Ford powered wagon like I grew up with at the right price.
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Posted: 11/23/2019 8:39:39 PM EDT
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I'm on the hunt for a 1965 Pontiac Catalina Safari 421 tri-power 4-speed station wagon. |
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Posted: 11/23/2019 9:30:47 PM EDT
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The seating position of a crossover is by far the worst part of the vehicle. Followed by horribly sloped A-pillars that block your view. The short wheelbase is part of the stupid buggy ride, not a benefit. And your right, most chicks are more interested in stuffing them full of shit they don't need from wallmart than noticing they drive like the high c.g. buggy monstrosities they are. Mini vans are superior in every way to the cuv. More room, better seating position, better ride, better handling and better looking though that's not something I would argue or brag about. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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No. They have a better seating position and more cargo space given equal wheelbases than a wagon. Two things the average driver cares about more than the near identical handling. The CG isn't nearly as affected as you think. Mini vans are superior in every way to the cuv. More room, better seating position, better ride, better handling and better looking though that's not something I would argue or brag about. |
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Posted: 11/23/2019 9:42:23 PM EDT
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Lot of truth here, especially regarding minivans. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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No. They have a better seating position and more cargo space given equal wheelbases than a wagon. Two things the average driver cares about more than the near identical handling. The CG isn't nearly as affected as you think. Mini vans are superior in every way to the cuv. More room, better seating position, better ride, better handling and better looking though that's not something I would argue or brag about.
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Posted: 11/23/2019 10:42:13 PM EDT
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Lot of truth here, especially regarding minivans. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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No. They have a better seating position and more cargo space given equal wheelbases than a wagon. Two things the average driver cares about more than the near identical handling. The CG isn't nearly as affected as you think. Mini vans are superior in every way to the cuv. More room, better seating position, better ride, better handling and better looking though that's not something I would argue or brag about. CUVs have a seating position that doesn't involve bending/squatting in and out of the vehicle. They have much better visibility than their sedan counterparts. Suspension tuning isn't all that appreciably different, either. It's not like the typical Camry/Malibu/Altima has crisp handling. Minivans are more relevant when you get into the three row jobs, and that's a bigger tangent from this thread. I think the two biggest drivers of market popularity there are the perception of cool/trendy and the availability of AWD. The market demands it, and with few exceptions, the minivan segment fails to deliver it. |
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Posted: 11/23/2019 10:45:13 PM EDT
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What makes sedans, wagons and hatches cool is the guys running 7s, 8s and 9s in the 1/4 mile with them. How is that not cool? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Sedans and wagons are both "nerdy" to me. You simply don't fully comprehend the power of good and constant marketing. The proof? You have men talking about how cool their sedans, wagons and hatchbacks are.  Imagine a marketing campaign so powerful that it gets grown men to brag about their station wagons. 
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Posted: 11/23/2019 10:47:09 PM EDT
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I've almost bought one a couple times but just can't. Then when the new little cargo vans came out they intrigued me too and have more space and less stigma Once when we were late to reach the airport, I extracted every living g out of a minivan to get there through mountain roads. My wife said she never knew a minivan was such a high performance mountain vehicle. |
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Posted: 11/23/2019 10:59:24 PM EDT
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Ok, Boomer. They're called "estates"
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Posted: 11/23/2019 11:05:53 PM EDT
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never cared for them.
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Posted: 11/23/2019 11:14:03 PM EDT
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Ok, Boomer. They're called "estates" |
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Posted: 11/23/2019 11:16:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryWould flog.
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Posted: 11/23/2019 11:25:38 PM EDT
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My parents hauled us around the country in one like this. I also took my drivers test in it and passed on the first visit to DMV. I have a soft spot for them.
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Posted: 11/23/2019 11:25:56 PM EDT
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I had one of these in the early 80s https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/311920/th_35__jpg-1171068.JPG That thing would go anywhere. It got passed on to 3 different family members. Old ladies with COPD rocking walkers would smoke it.Comments were either “lol! What a POS!” or “So how much would you take for it?” No in between. Wish I still had it. |
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Posted: 11/23/2019 11:31:09 PM EDT
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4 normal sized adults can play twister in the back of one of these. https://barnfinds.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/1973-Ford-LTD-Country-Squire.jpg 
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Posted: 11/23/2019 11:34:10 PM EDT
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Wagons have always been cool. I had a Volvo 240 turbo wagon that was great in the mountains with the turbo. And you could sleep in the back. Sleeper
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Posted: 11/23/2019 11:57:25 PM EDT
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Sex in a sedan or coupe can be constraining and uncomfortable.
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Posted: 11/23/2019 11:57:47 PM EDT
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Sedan and wagon on same platform, I take the wagon everytime. More usable space, same size, comparable performance.
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Posted: 11/24/2019 12:12:05 AM EDT
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Ah, so you prefer the shooting brake? https://hips.hearstapps.com/roa.h-cdn.co/assets/16/18/768x384/landscape-1462229831-1992-astonmartin-virageshootingbrake1.jpg?resize=480:* |
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Posted: 11/24/2019 12:17:03 AM EDT
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I’ve carried tons of bulky items in my Forester.
A stand up Kendon motorcycle work stand. 42” sink base 4’ x 3’ welding table with a 1/2” top, that was heavy. |
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Posted: 11/24/2019 12:44:33 AM EDT
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Posted: 11/24/2019 12:57:11 AM EDT
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I love wagons, I still regret selling my 1989 Volvo 740 turbo wagon.
Now if only Mercedes would import the new A45S 
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Posted: 11/24/2019 1:42:43 AM EDT
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4 normal sized adults can play twister in the back of one of these. https://barnfinds.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/1973-Ford-LTD-Country-Squire.jpg Chris |
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Posted: 11/24/2019 1:47:58 AM EDT
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I like old wagons, nothing made in the last 45 years though.
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Posted: 11/24/2019 1:53:59 AM EDT
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4 normal sized adults can play twister in the back of one of these.  
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Posted: 11/24/2019 3:20:49 AM EDT
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What's not to like???
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Posted: 11/24/2019 3:42:36 AM EDT
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Because they HAVE to be different - their whole self-validation involves telling themselves that everyone else are sheep and only they have taste.
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Posted: 11/24/2019 8:59:47 AM EDT
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The seating position of a crossover is by far the worst part of the vehicle. Followed by horribly sloped A-pillars that block your view. The short wheelbase is part of the stupid buggy ride, not a benefit. And your right, most chicks are more interested in stuffing them full of shit they don't need from wallmart than noticing they drive like the high c.g. buggy monstrosities they are. Mini vans are superior in every way to the cuv. More room, better seating position, better ride, better handling and better looking though that's not something I would argue or brag about. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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No. They have a better seating position and more cargo space given equal wheelbases than a wagon. Two things the average driver cares about more than the near identical handling. The CG isn't nearly as affected as you think. Mini vans are superior in every way to the cuv. More room, better seating position, better ride, better handling and better looking though that's not something I would argue or brag about.
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Posted: 11/24/2019 9:16:28 AM EDT
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Because wagons and hatchbacks are extremely functional vehicles. They're more practical for the majority of people who end up buying SUVs and trucks. That is unless you really do want or need the extra space or an open bed. It's like a sedan with a lot more storage space, but you still maintain a lot of sedan fuel efficiency and driving characteristics. I'd have a station wagon in a hot second if I could afford one. Family life
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Posted: 11/24/2019 10:32:34 AM EDT
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I like my S4 Avant and I'm no hipster.
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Posted: 11/24/2019 10:48:32 AM EDT
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so what you are saying is I should not buy one Quote HistoryQuoted:
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always liked the Audi Allroad The old a6 allroad.... Fantastic performance, very useful... But yeah, they are a bit maintenance intensive
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Posted: 11/24/2019 10:51:26 AM EDT
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Why are people concerned with what other people drive?
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Posted: 11/24/2019 10:51:50 AM EDT
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Wagons have always been cool. I had a Volvo 240 turbo wagon that was great in the mountains with the turbo. And you could sleep in the back. Sleeper https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/99195/IMG_4020_JPG-1171562.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/99195/IMG_4021_JPG-1171563.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/99195/IMG_4019_JPG-1171564.JPG  Attached File |
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Posted: 11/24/2019 11:04:55 AM EDT
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Wagons are nostalgia cars for Boomers, Gen-Xers and older Millennials.
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Posted: 11/24/2019 11:06:07 AM EDT
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How many boomer vehicle threads can one guy start in one weekend?
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Posted: 11/24/2019 11:47:27 AM EDT
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Because they can look really good and fit a lot of shit.
Miss my 850 t5 wagon, great road car. 
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Posted: 11/24/2019 11:57:13 AM EDT
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4 normal sized adults can play twister in the back of one of these. https://barnfinds.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/1973-Ford-LTD-Country-Squire.jpg |
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Posted: 11/24/2019 12:37:09 PM EDT
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Wagons are nostalgia cars for Boomers, Gen-Xers and older Millennials. BOOMERS https://cdn.barrett-jackson.com/staging/carlist/items/Fullsize/Cars/22630/22630_Front_3-4_Web.jpg GEN-X https://i.pinimg.com/736x/3b/5b/52/3b5b52777e963236d13b8492dc0db803.jpg MILLENNALS http://www.grandmarq.net/tiggie/Box%20History/1980/Country%20Squire.jpg Millennials grew up in minivans and SUVs. |
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Posted: 11/24/2019 2:38:56 PM EDT
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The overwhelming majority of millennials, even the older ones, didn't have many big wagons like that in their lives. Millennials grew up in minivans and SUVs. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Wagons are nostalgia cars for Boomers, Gen-Xers and older Millennials. BOOMERS https://cdn.barrett-jackson.com/staging/carlist/items/Fullsize/Cars/22630/22630_Front_3-4_Web.jpg GEN-X https://i.pinimg.com/736x/3b/5b/52/3b5b52777e963236d13b8492dc0db803.jpg MILLENNALS http://www.grandmarq.net/tiggie/Box%20History/1980/Country%20Squire.jpg Millennials grew up in minivans and SUVs. |
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Posted: 11/25/2019 5:47:33 AM EDT
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I frequently see multiples of these Dodge Magnum wagons on the road here in Missouri.
Didn't realize they made them up to 2008. https://www.cars.com/for-sale/searchresults.action/?dealerType=all&mdId=21411&mkId=20012&page=1&perPage=50&prMx=30000&rd=500&searchSource=PAGINATION&sort=price-lowest&zc=65761 |
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Posted: 11/25/2019 5:51:36 AM EDT
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You shut your whore mouth.
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Posted: 11/25/2019 6:35:21 AM EDT
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Posted: 11/25/2019 6:38:07 AM EDT
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Why wouldn’t you ? Oh yeah I’ll go be poor somewhere else.
Engine: 5,461cc, twin-turbo V8 Transmission: 7-speed automatic, rear-wheel drive Power (hp): 585@5,500rpm Torque (lb ft): 590@1,750-5,250rpm MPG: 28.3 (NEDC combined)  Attached File |
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Posted: 11/25/2019 6:46:06 AM EDT
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My dad bought a cherry 69 Ford wagon just like this one back in the early 80's. I literally only had like 6K on the odometer. It was garage kept on one of the US Virgin islands since it was new. He kept it about a year and sold it. It was totally stock, but I always thought it would have looked badass with just a change of wheels.
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Posted: 11/25/2019 6:54:29 AM EDT
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THEY'RE NOT WAGONS, THEY'RE SUV'S!!!!!!!!
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