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Another angle that many here have missed is the volume of SUVs and CUVs have taken much of that small truck market. How many people actually use the bed of a pickup for loads of dirt and similar? Many of the people that used to drive small pickups drive SUV/CUV. Now instead of an open bed where shit gets stolen, hot, or cold, it is covered. You can pull a 4 x 8 trailer with a SUV for the handful of times the average person needs to vertical clearance. Plain and simple, most people don't need them.
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Quoted: https://i.ytimg.com/vi/E464XZTSxWM/maxresdefault.jpg Ford Maverick is what you're looking for. It's the one on the far left. View Quote Maverick is a cool little vehicle but it is not a truck |
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Hmmm....
That Ford Maverick looks as close to an old small 80's /90's truck as you can get. |
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Quoted: Toyota doesn’t make single cab tacomas anymore View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Single cab 2wd base model Tacoma is about as small of a truck as you can get now Toyota doesn’t make single cab tacomas anymore Okay, “access cab” Attached File |
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We need big trucks to haul our big fat asses!
Big cushy seats, heated steering wheels, oversized Big Gulp holders, automatic everything, mega plush and super comfy - a "real man's truck!" PS. Don't forget the 4-foot-high monster chrome grill with an angry, overbearing look about it....so the weanies on the road know who's boss! |
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Quoted: You can not buy a single cab Tacoma New. It doesn't exist. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Single cab 2wd base model Tacoma is about as small of a truck as you can get now You can not buy a single cab Tacoma New. It doesn't exist. Attached File |
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If you want a Urbanized, manbun truck, your options are the Santa Cruz or Ridgeline.
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Quoted: This is a small truck. I wish they'd build similar trucks again. I dont need 4doors. Ive seen a mavrick up close. They're still big. https://media.carsandbids.com/cdn-cgi/image/width=2080,quality=70/bdcd60931d1cb87bf7a5afbdc337d4d15bf5377c/photos/rGO618nj.yvIVzMmZ2-(edit).jpg?t=162698300367 View Quote The Maverick is 6 inches longer, 7 inches wider, and about 7 inches taller. It's bigger but not by much. Then considering the crew cab and you've got a truck about as small as you can get built from current year designs. But yes I too want something like this to make a come back. |
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Small trucks are nice. One of mine is a 98 Nissan Frontier. It has almost 300k miles and a 5 speed manual transmission. I inherited from my father when he died.
Maintaining it is cheap. It gets a respectable 23-24ish MPG for me. |
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I'd pay $45K in a heart beat for a "new" 1965 straight six Chevy pickup with A/C. Shit I'd buy more than one.
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Because 87% of pickup buyers are buying a personal luxury vehicle to commute to work and rarely use the bed.
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Quoted: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/51546/ebay242526_jpg-2763242.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/51546/c6c507c195b2ce03467b40c217956790_jpg-2763241.JPG View Quote |
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Quoted: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/128204/F06C9E33-0D11-4C96-A5E6-FCA206784F10_png-2763072.JPG View Quote Okay? Still not a single cab truck |
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I agree.
Decided that I did indeed want what “there is no market for”. After a year of daily searching, I picked up this ‘97 bare bones 4cyl 5 speed last year with 58k miles on it. I’ve put 21k issue free miles on it as my daily. Should be good to go for another 200k/10 years. Attached File Attached File |
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for all those out there in fantasy land saying that mfgs know what the market wants how come Fords maverick is such a huge sales hit that they didn't know to build it years ago?
Mfgs use sales to determine what to build. Its confirmation basis. trouble with small trucks is mfgs want to bloat them up with larger cabs, luxury interiors and basically try to make them mini f150's. by the time they are done stuffing it all in they are just about as big as a f150 and they cost almost the same. small simple utilitarian small pickups have a market. The market for used ones prove it. |
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Quoted: And I guess by small I mean primarily shorter. There are millions of people that use trucks primarily in towns and cities for painting, small landscaping/gardening, and a hundred other businesses that don't need a truck THAT CAN TOW 18,000 LBS, DRIVE THROUGH 3 FEET OF MUD, ILUMINATE YOUR SECOND STORY BEDROOMS DURING POWER OUTAGES, HAS AN AUTO DEPLOY STEPLADDER FOR EASY ACCESS, SPATTER GUARD FOR UNSEEN PEDESTRIANS, AND LIMITED TO THREE ON THE SAME SIDE OF GUAM AT ANY GIVEN TIME. I just think that there has to be a market for something smaller. Even trucks like the Ranger are now monstrosities. View Quote |
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Quoted: I think the Frontier Crew Cab 4x4 will be my next truck Reason #1 There are no more 1/2 ton V8's available. The Nissan claims 6500lbs towing so it should handle 4500lbs OK on short trips. I would rather have V8 but since that is no longer an option, I'll get a smaller truck... Reason #2 I am disgusted with my current Tundra. less than 80k and all the electronic CRAP is out i.e. the adaptive cruise, the lane warning shit, all the stuff I didn't want to begin with. Every time it rains, it all starts blinking on the dash Reason #3 Normally I would have went with Tacoma, but fuck Toyota for selling me this POS Tundra My 08 Tundra is still going strong. My son drives it to Bama. This 2018 Tundra I am driving is crap View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Nissan has been making the Frontier for about 100 years now. I think the Frontier Crew Cab 4x4 will be my next truck Reason #1 There are no more 1/2 ton V8's available. The Nissan claims 6500lbs towing so it should handle 4500lbs OK on short trips. I would rather have V8 but since that is no longer an option, I'll get a smaller truck... Reason #2 I am disgusted with my current Tundra. less than 80k and all the electronic CRAP is out i.e. the adaptive cruise, the lane warning shit, all the stuff I didn't want to begin with. Every time it rains, it all starts blinking on the dash Reason #3 Normally I would have went with Tacoma, but fuck Toyota for selling me this POS Tundra My 08 Tundra is still going strong. My son drives it to Bama. This 2018 Tundra I am driving is crap I've got a 19 Frontier crew cab sl and love it. While definately not as small as the older 90s rangers or Tacomas it's still much smaller than the giant trucks that are the norm now. Plenty of room in the cab, short bed but still enough space, decent power. It is, I believe, smaller than the new model that came out in 21. |
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I have a 1989 Toyota pickup. It’s what a mini truck should be.
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