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Posted: 3/4/2024 8:34:34 PM EDT
[#1]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Did I claim that? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Has Taylor Swift cheated on her husband and left? Did I claim that? No, but you said you think she's the type that would, even though she hasn't. You are projecting hard. I don't like her music either, but my girls do and I don't think she's going to somehow ruin them as young women just because she writes songs that girls like to dance to. |
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Posted: 3/4/2024 8:35:03 PM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I met my wife when I was 31. Its pretty normal these days outside of the midwest / southern states where you have 2 kids before you graduate high school. Yeah it's weird we don't want to be 55 years old with special needs children still in high school because we got married when we were middle aged and cranked out a couple miracle babies with the last 2 dusty eggs left in the tank. |
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Posted: 3/4/2024 8:35:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think I was trying to point out why that's retarded. I'm pretty sure most pornstars don't have a divorce either. Taylor Swift =/= pornstar. |
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Posted: 3/4/2024 8:37:09 PM EDT
[#4]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Nope. Just pointing out that you are incredibly judgmental, have flaws of your own, and your lack of ability to understand both of those things may be precisely why you’ve been through apparently more than one of those. Self reflection may do you more good than blaming Taylor Swift for the downfall of humanity.  I am judgmental of the same personality type that led to my five year old daughter crying in the corner of her room Thursday night because she didn't want to leave daddy's house. Yes, how terrible of me, and I should just keep quiet and leave poor Taylor alone. I have done more than my share of self-reflection, but your self-congratulatory bullshit is noted. I appreciate your attempts at sophistry, no matter how idiotic. |
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Posted: 3/4/2024 8:37:53 PM EDT
[#5]
OP, you come across as a person with anger and control issues. Taylor Swift is probably the least of your worries concerning raising daughters. It's okay to think that TS is a bad influence. As a father of a grown daughter, I'm telling you with certainty, your daughters will resent you and rebel against you if make a big deal out of a passing fad.
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Posted: 3/4/2024 8:37:58 PM EDT
[#6]
Jesus Tap dancing Christ.
Can we stop talking about that hoe with no ass? Do you discuss Barbie fashion with girls too? Can we post some gun pictures? |
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Posted: 3/4/2024 8:39:51 PM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No, but you said you think she's the type that would, even though she hasn't. You are projecting hard. I don't like her music either, but my girls do and I don't think she's going to somehow ruin them as young women just because she writes songs that girls like to dance to. I'm not projecting anything, and I also didn't say that. I said that the personality type is similar. I didn't say she was going to ruin young women either. This thread is like 90% strawman arguments against things I never said. |
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Posted: 3/4/2024 8:40:54 PM EDT
[#8]
 Della Mae doing John Prine @Wakeupandsniffthecoffee "thats the way that the world goes round" 
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Posted: 3/4/2024 8:40:54 PM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryQuoted: OP, you come across as a person with anger and control issues. Taylor Swift is probably the least of your worries concerning raising daughters. It's okay to think that TS is a bad influence. As a father of a grown daughter, I'm telling you with certainty, your daughters will resent you and rebel against you if make a big deal out of a passing fad. LOL. Pay attention. |
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Posted: 3/4/2024 8:42:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: LOL. Pay attention. I did. You are the one not paying attention. |
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Posted: 3/4/2024 8:42:37 PM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm not projecting anything, and I also didn't say that. I said that the personality type is similar. I didn't say she was going to ruin young women either. This thread is like 90% strawman arguments against things I never said. You getting super defensive only makes the thread spiral harder. There are a few nuggets of good advice in this thread that you could glean, but you keep letting yourself get antagonized instead. |
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Posted: 3/4/2024 8:43:34 PM EDT
[#12]
It could be worse. My 11 year old daughter wants to be Kurt Cobain.
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Posted: 3/4/2024 8:44:13 PM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It could be worse. My 11 year old daughter wants to be Kurt Cobain. Lock up your shotguns. |
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Posted: 3/4/2024 8:44:38 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I am judgmental of the same personality type that led to my five year old daughter crying in the corner of her room Thursday night because she didn't want to leave daddy's house. Yes, how terrible of me, and I should just keep quiet and leave poor Taylor alone. I have done more than my share of self-reflection, but your self-congratulatory bullshit is noted. I appreciate your attempts at sophistry, no matter how idiotic. Says the guy whose thread is going about as well as his marriages….. |
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Posted: 3/4/2024 8:45:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I did. You are the one not paying attention. Try again. I said that I said I did not like her and did not think she was a good role model for young girls. I explained my reasoning to their mother and here in this thread. I did not make a big deal out of it or even bring it up again to my children. I am well aware of the psychology of children and how they react at different ages. It simply makes little sense to caution me against something that I did not do (nor did I say I was going to do). This is why I said pay attention. I did not say that I made a big deal out of it. I did not say I was going to make a big deal out of it. I did not say that she is demonic, or going to ruin the world, or my children, or any of that. What I got was a bunch of inane responses (mostly fallacious) about how because I am not perfect I can't criticize others. I appreciate your more adult responses, but I don't quite understand what you're getting at. |
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Posted: 3/4/2024 8:45:50 PM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah it's weird we don't want to be 55 years old with special needs children still in high school because we got married when we were middle aged and cranked out a couple miracle babies with the last 2 dusty eggs left in the tank. Ya thats perfectly normal too dude. Just dont understand why you think its bad if other people have different life projections than you? These days its 100% becoming more and more of a trend with younger folks to get married n have kids later on. It isnt 1974 anymore. |
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Posted: 3/4/2024 8:45:54 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: She has sold out to Satan. There are some people who think the dances she does on stage are undercover demonic rituals lol |
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Posted: 3/4/2024 8:47:25 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/4/2024 8:48:54 PM EDT
[#19]
She’s not a role model.
Singers, actors, politicians, etc shouldn’t be pushed on kids as role models. Very few of them are good, and the ones that seem to be good always let you down. They’re compromised by fame, power and money. Personally, I’m glad I don’t have to deal with this. None of my kids care a bit about Swift and think Swifties are incredibly dumb. My wife isn’t a fan of Taylor Swift. My kids listened with me to music since they were born. They’re more Zeppelin, Skynyrd, Metallica, old school country, Cake, Rammstein, Flogging Molly. Really eclectic, But they don’t look up to them as role models. We’ve taught them that. |
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Posted: 3/4/2024 8:52:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: She’s not a role model. Singers, actors, politicians, etc shouldn’t be pushed on kids as role models. Very few of them are good, and the ones that seem to be good always let you down. They’re compromised by fame, power and money. Personally, I’m glad I don’t have to deal with this. None of my kids care a bit about Swift and think Swifties are incredibly dumb. My wife isn’t a fan of Taylor Swift. My kids listened with me to music since they were born. They’re more Zeppelin, Skynyrd, Metallica, old school country, Cake, Rammstein, Flogging Molly. Really eclectic, But they don’t look up to them as role models. We’ve taught them that. If it wasn't clear I was asking more as a preventative thing. I agree with everything you've said here. My youngest doesn't have any role models besides her parents, and the oldest is in to gymnastics and probably looks up a bit to some of them. Not necessarily personally, just for what they can do. I think the point of this thread was precisely to teach them *not* to look to celebrities as role models. |
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Posted: 3/4/2024 8:55:58 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah it's weird we don't want to be 55 years old with special needs children still in high school because we got married when we were middle aged and cranked out a couple miracle babies with the last 2 dusty eggs left in the tank. I’m with you man. We had our first when I was 22 and my wife was 21. We had our 5th when she was 32 and I was 33. The difference between having a infant to care for when you’re in your early 20’s versus early 30’s was noticeable. I can’t imagine having an infant/toddler in my 40’s. That would be incredibly tiring and stressful. Lock down a good conservative farm girl right in college, crank the babies out and enjoy your 40’s and beyond. I’m still young enough to do shit with them like race dirt bikes and play hockey. |
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Posted: 3/4/2024 8:57:36 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If it wasn't clear I was asking more as a preventative thing. I agree with everything you've said here. My youngest doesn't have any role models besides her parents, and the oldest is in to gymnastics and probably looks up a bit to some of them. Not necessarily personally, just for what they can do. I think the point of this thread was precisely to teach them *not* to look to celebrities as role models. Next time keep it at just that. If you avoid pointing out things you perceive as downfalls, that both hilariously and ironically are no different than your own, you may not have 90% of the posters here wondering if you’re truly that stupid. |
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Posted: 3/4/2024 8:58:02 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If it wasn't clear I was asking more as a preventative thing. I agree with everything you've said here. My youngest doesn't have any role models besides her parents, and the oldest is in to gymnastics and probably looks up a bit to some of them. Not necessarily personally, just for what they can do. I think the point of this thread was precisely to teach them *not* to look to celebrities as role models. I get it. Way to many dudes here rushing to the defense of ol T Swift. Probably because their wives and kids worship her, and an attack on Taylor seems like an attack on their family. |
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Posted: 3/4/2024 9:03:26 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm not projecting anything, and I also didn't say that. I said that the personality type is similar. I didn't say she was going to ruin young women either. This thread is like 90% strawman arguments against things I never said. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: No, but you said you think she's the type that would, even though she hasn't. You are projecting hard. I don't like her music either, but my girls do and I don't think she's going to somehow ruin them as young women just because she writes songs that girls like to dance to. I'm not projecting anything, and I also didn't say that. I said that the personality type is similar. I didn't say she was going to ruin young women either. This thread is like 90% strawman arguments against things I never said. Are we to address everything you said verbatim, we aren't allowed to use context clues? |
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Posted: 3/4/2024 9:04:30 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Next time keep it at just that. If you avoid pointing out things you perceive as downfalls, that both hilariously and ironically are no different than your own, you may not have 90% of the posters here wondering if you’re truly that stupid. I am an imperfect person, of course. I have not now nor would I ever claim otherwise. Yes, I have been divorced twice. Yes, I have gone through a lot of introspection and reflection. What I am criticizing in the original post is not even remotely close to any personality characteristic I possess nor is it any action I have ever taken. So no, that is not "hilariously and ironically no different than my own." You seem to be saying that anybody who's been in a failed relationship of any kind cannot criticize another who's been in a failed relationship (or dozens) regardless of the circumstances of said relationships. That makes zero sense. The entire point of this is to make sure I am the best father I can be to my daughters, both through being the best I can be regardless of the circumstances and directing them away from bad influences. |
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Posted: 3/4/2024 9:06:03 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I’m with you man. We had our first when I was 22 and my wife was 21. We had our 5th when she was 32 and I was 33. The difference between having a infant to care for when you’re in your early 20’s versus early 30’s was noticeable. I can’t imagine having an infant/toddler in my 40’s. That would be incredibly tiring and stressful. Lock down a good conservative farm girl right in college, crank the babies out and enjoy your 40’s and beyond. I’m still young enough to do shit with them like race dirt bikes and play hockey. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Yeah it's weird we don't want to be 55 years old with special needs children still in high school because we got married when we were middle aged and cranked out a couple miracle babies with the last 2 dusty eggs left in the tank. I’m with you man. We had our first when I was 22 and my wife was 21. We had our 5th when she was 32 and I was 33. The difference between having a infant to care for when you’re in your early 20’s versus early 30’s was noticeable. I can’t imagine having an infant/toddler in my 40’s. That would be incredibly tiring and stressful. Lock down a good conservative farm girl right in college, crank the babies out and enjoy your 40’s and beyond. I’m still young enough to do shit with them like race dirt bikes and play hockey. A friend of mine just had his second at 38 and the whole thing seems exhausting to me. He has a 2 year old also. I called him the other night and he sound absolutely beat. We had our kids before I turned 30. I got snipped at 29. No way in hell would I want to start having them in my 30's, babies are a young person's game. |
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Posted: 3/4/2024 9:08:19 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Says the guy whose thread is going about as well as his marriages….. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I am judgmental of the same personality type that led to my five year old daughter crying in the corner of her room Thursday night because she didn't want to leave daddy's house. Yes, how terrible of me, and I should just keep quiet and leave poor Taylor alone. I have done more than my share of self-reflection, but your self-congratulatory bullshit is noted. I appreciate your attempts at sophistry, no matter how idiotic. Says the guy whose thread is going about as well as his marriages….. 
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Posted: 3/4/2024 9:09:36 PM EDT
[#28]
Taytay is just a wealthy whore .. her 15min will be up soon enough.
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Posted: 3/4/2024 9:13:58 PM EDT
[#29]
Why don’t you all just be honest and say you hate her because of her politics? No talent? Her many awards and 100s of millions of dollars beg to differ.
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Posted: 3/4/2024 9:17:20 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: yikes dude. you are DEFINITELY thinking about it too hard lol. Doesn't everyone go through a dating phase in their 20's / early 30's? Swift may have some issues but she's 99.99999% better than all the other singers out there today in terms of being a role model for younger children. Just be thankful your kids aren't into emo or some shit. Also, I'm pretty sure she writes all her own stuff and gave a big middle finger to big industry, so no idea how you can call her talentless. Taylor swift is geriatric at this point. 34 and unwed? |
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Posted: 3/4/2024 9:19:32 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Taylor swift is geriatric at this point. 34 and unwed? "spinster" would be the correct terminology
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Posted: 3/4/2024 9:20:50 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah it's weird we don't want to be 55 years old with special needs children still in high school because we got married when we were middle aged and cranked out a couple miracle babies with the last 2 dusty eggs left in the tank. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I met my wife when I was 31. Its pretty normal these days outside of the midwest / southern states where you have 2 kids before you graduate high school. Yeah it's weird we don't want to be 55 years old with special needs children still in high school because we got married when we were middle aged and cranked out a couple miracle babies with the last 2 dusty eggs left in the tank. You blew your charade with that post. |
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Posted: 3/4/2024 9:22:03 PM EDT
[#33]
She’s extremely smart and talented but I don’t trust her.
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Posted: 3/4/2024 9:22:53 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Taytay is just a wealthy whore .. her 15min will be up soon enough. Just like Elvis, The Beatles, Led Zep, Pink Floyd, Michael Jackson, etc etc etc etc? Okay, boomer. |
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Posted: 3/4/2024 9:24:09 PM EDT
[#35]
Who is Taylor Swift some actress?
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Posted: 3/4/2024 9:24:23 PM EDT
[#36]
She's rich and desired by high status men. Which is what 90 percent of women want. Pretty simple.
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Posted: 3/4/2024 9:25:43 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Who is Taylor Swift some actress? Ooooohhh..much originality, much creativity! Don’t cut yourself on that edge. |
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Posted: 3/4/2024 9:25:59 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Just like Elvis, The Beatles, Led Zep, Pink Floyd, Michael Jackson, etc etc etc etc? Okay, boomer. Yeah, that’s kind of a funny post, considering she’s been pretty famous for almost 20 years. She’s good at making revenge pop, which is a good seller. |
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Posted: 3/4/2024 9:26:20 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Who is Taylor Swift some actress? Don’t play stupid. |
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Posted: 3/4/2024 9:27:20 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I am an imperfect person, of course. I have not now nor would I ever claim otherwise. Yes, I have been divorced twice. Yes, I have gone through a lot of introspection and reflection. What I am criticizing in the original post is not even remotely close to any personality characteristic I possess nor is it any action I have ever taken. So no, that is not "hilariously and ironically no different than my own." You seem to be saying that anybody who's been in a failed relationship of any kind cannot criticize another who's been in a failed relationship (or dozens) regardless of the circumstances of said relationships. That makes zero sense. The entire point of this is to make sure I am the best father I can be to my daughters, both through being the best I can be regardless of the circumstances and directing them away from bad influences. Yeah. I think we all get that. But…. Next time just don’t be so specific about what you dislike about Taylor, then in the same post point out shit you’ve done that’s just as bad if not worse. “I’m trying to figure out how to keep my young children from idolizing celebrities”. That’s good. Go you! Versus what you did: “I’m trying to teach my kids that serial dating is bad, so I led by example and got a couple divorces”. That's funny as fuck. Don’t put that on the internet. I mean it’s a bit late for that of course… |
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Posted: 3/4/2024 9:27:28 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Who is Taylor Swift some actress? Let's get you to bed grandpa. |
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Posted: 3/4/2024 9:30:52 PM EDT
[#42]
My 6 1/2 year old daughter likes Taylor Swift (and our 3 1/2 year old likes to dance and be silly to her songs).
Dude - there are FAR shittier artists to be concerned about your kids getting into than Taylor Swift. I think you're overreacting. And what do you plan to do? Shield your kids from pop music entirely? Taylor Swift is probably the least shittiest person of all the mainstream artists out there today. Like she's Mary fucking Poppins compared to 95% of the garbage human beings topping the charts right now...Your girls will be fine. So will mine. |
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Posted: 3/4/2024 9:32:37 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: OP, you come across as a person with anger and control issues. Taylor Swift is probably the least of your worries concerning raising daughters. It's okay to think that TS is a bad influence. As a father of a grown daughter, I'm telling you with certainty, your daughters will resent you and rebel against you if make a big deal out of a passing fad. Never give them something to push against. My daughter tried it with anime, but I weirded her our watching Jojo etc  OP needs to hang some Taylor swift poster on the wall and wake her up doing this.  Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson syncs "Shake it Off" by Taylor Swift | Lip Sync Battle |
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Posted: 3/4/2024 9:33:25 PM EDT
[#44]
 Will There Be Any Stars?--Alison Krauss & The Cox Family |
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Posted: 3/4/2024 9:35:04 PM EDT
[#45]
Maybe because what she wears all day doesn't even pass for Victoria's Secret underwear.
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Posted: 3/4/2024 9:35:25 PM EDT
[#46]
Most entertainers in music or movies/TV and such have a large number of people that craft their image in the media and such. Guessing most people know very little about someone that is famous other than what comes from their image people. A lot of them their job is to make you think they are something they aren't. They may be a great person, or they may not be. I don't know, not my problem I don't idolize them. Just someone with a job.
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Posted: 3/4/2024 9:36:06 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This isn't about me. I don't think about Taylor Swift. As mentioned my youngest was carrying around a fucking cutout. I know the fucking GD white knight brigade loves her for some reason but this wasn't me lashing out at Taylor Swift. I didn't bring it up. I don't really care what basement dwellers do. There doesn't seem to be any real attempt by any of the white knighters to defend any of my points (talentless, regardless of whether you agree or disagree, was NOT a point I made in why she's a bad role model). How do you know so much about her personal life? |
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Posted: 3/4/2024 9:37:09 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Why? Because you didn’t honor your vow and provide a stable, loving example for them to follow either. |
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Posted: 3/4/2024 9:38:05 PM EDT
[#49]
@narphenal
Oh wait he’s banned.
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Posted: 3/4/2024 9:40:00 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Because you didn’t honor your vow and provide a stable, loving example for them to follow either. LOL. |
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