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Posted: 2/20/2019 10:23:58 PM EDT
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No gas check, no lube, no wad. No coating loss on sizing.
The only place i lose a little coating is if two bullets stuck togetjer during the bake. I do wait 24hrs to size as the coating is still curing. |
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Posted: 2/20/2019 10:33:47 PM EDT
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This is just really capturing my attention. I appreciate the information.
I’m guessing those cases just pretty near last forever with very little attention. |
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Posted: 2/20/2019 10:45:16 PM EDT
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This is just really capturing my attention. I appreciate the information. I’m guessing those cases just pretty near last forever with very little attention. |
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Posted: 2/20/2019 10:57:57 PM EDT
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No gas check, no lube, no wad. No coating loss on sizing. The only place i lose a little coating is if two bullets stuck togetjer during the bake. I do wait 24hrs to size as the coating is still curing. |
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Posted: 2/20/2019 10:58:47 PM EDT
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Actively looking to join the 45-70 master race. Just have to decide on marlin vs henry.
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Posted: 2/20/2019 11:01:37 PM EDT
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At 50c each for once fired brass, they better. 
With smokeless you can probably get nice plinking round that doesn’t eat you with recoil, correct? |
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Posted: 2/20/2019 11:09:06 PM EDT
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True but it’s not like a guy is loading a gross of 30 round mags with them.
With smokeless you can probably get nice plinking round that doesn’t eat you with recoil, correct? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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At 50c each for once fired brass, they better.
With smokeless you can probably get nice plinking round that doesn’t eat you with recoil, correct? |
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Posted: 2/20/2019 11:23:16 PM EDT
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No gas check, no lube, no wad. No coating loss on sizing. The only place i lose a little coating is if two bullets stuck togetjer during the bake. I do wait 24hrs to size as the coating is still curing. |
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Posted: 2/20/2019 11:23:21 PM EDT
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Does anyone have one of these? https://www.cdnnsports.com/1885-trapper-45-70-16-5.html?___SID=U#.XGi67bh7mHs https://www.cdnnsports.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/w/i/win534146142.jpg I've been tempted but it's 6lbs. 
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Posted: 2/20/2019 11:29:48 PM EDT
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Any advice on leaving a bit of uncoated lead at the nose? IA apparently considers fully powdercoated bullets fully jacketed and not expanding. Not allowed for hunting. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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No gas check, no lube, no wad. No coating loss on sizing. The only place i lose a little coating is if two bullets stuck togetjer during the bake. I do wait 24hrs to size as the coating is still curing. |
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Posted: 2/20/2019 11:37:19 PM EDT
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For hunting with 45-70, just buy some bullets. How many are you actually going through? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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No gas check, no lube, no wad. No coating loss on sizing. The only place i lose a little coating is if two bullets stuck togetjer during the bake. I do wait 24hrs to size as the coating is still curing. For powdercoated though, I'm thinking more for .450 Bushmaster than .45-70. Have had no problems with my wheelweight loads for .45-70. |
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Posted: 2/20/2019 11:43:42 PM EDT
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I really really need to start reloading for mine.
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Posted: 2/21/2019 12:09:45 AM EDT
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Any advice on leaving a bit of uncoated lead at the nose? IA apparently considers fully powdercoated bullets fully jacketed and not expanding. Not allowed for hunting. |
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Posted: 2/21/2019 12:16:59 AM EDT
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Actively looking to join the 45-70 master race. Just have to decide on marlin vs henry. Henry .22. 
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Posted: 2/21/2019 3:49:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How well do you suppose the hitek coating would work? |
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Posted: 2/21/2019 3:50:58 AM EDT
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Any advice on leaving a bit of uncoated lead at the nose? IA apparently considers fully powdercoated bullets fully jacketed and not expanding. Not allowed for hunting. |
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Posted: 2/21/2019 10:20:52 AM EDT
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I thought about this. I usually hand place the bullets on the baking tray wearing latex gloves. I guess you could just carefully wipe the powder off the nose before baking.
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Posted: 2/21/2019 11:30:36 AM EDT
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I thought about this. I usually hand place the bullets on the baking tray wearing latex gloves. I guess you could just carefully wipe the powder off the nose before baking.
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Posted: 2/22/2019 7:45:54 PM EDT
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Unsized on left. Sized on right.
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Posted: 2/23/2019 12:27:05 AM EDT
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Simple, yet effective Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I thought about this. I usually hand place the bullets on the baking tray wearing latex gloves. I guess you could just carefully wipe the powder off the nose before baking. |
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Posted: 2/23/2019 12:38:36 AM EDT
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Actively looking to join the 45-70 master race. Just have to decide on marlin vs henry. 
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Posted: 2/23/2019 12:40:06 AM EDT
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I've been so tempted to get that for the past 6 months. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Does anyone have one of these? https://www.cdnnsports.com/1885-trapper-45-70-16-5.html?___SID=U#.XGi67bh7mHs https://www.cdnnsports.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/w/i/win534146142.jpg I've been tempted but it's 6lbs. 
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Posted: 2/23/2019 2:07:12 AM EDT
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If I had a spare $900 I'd buy a Winchester https://www.cdnnsports.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/600x600/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/w/i/win534146142.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Actively looking to join the 45-70 master race. Just have to decide on marlin vs henry. https://www.cdnnsports.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/600x600/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/w/i/win534146142.jpg |
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Posted: 2/23/2019 2:30:23 AM EDT
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Short faced bears could be brought back at any time! https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/109690/13E294CD-3AAE-426D-9199-8643DDC24334_jpeg-841389.JPG Or be "modern" and use a 375 H&H Magnum. If you have to be vintage, a 600 Nitro Express should level it. Of course the ominous Weatherby 460 magnum works too. |
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Posted: 2/23/2019 1:11:46 PM EDT
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Unsized on left. Sized on right. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/10063/20190222_172732-854541.jpg Amazing! |
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Posted: 2/23/2019 1:53:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The lead is so much softer than the powder coat that it compresses to side before the coating even gets a scratch. Amazing! |
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Posted: 2/23/2019 2:09:47 PM EDT
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This is the video that sold me. One and down on a 2000lb Bison. Video is about a minute and a half.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkssHWWJWjkEffective and clean everytime |
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Posted: 2/23/2019 3:35:15 PM EDT
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If i think of it tomorrow , ill snap a pic of my .40 call bullets in black. Sort of looks like a bedliner finish, but man are they accurate out of my Sigs. 
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Posted: 2/23/2019 3:38:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If I had a spare $900 I'd buy a Winchester https://www.cdnnsports.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/600x600/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/w/i/win534146142.jpg |
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Posted: 2/23/2019 6:08:58 PM EDT
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Here is the pc .40 blue box next to 9mm alox red box.
Pistol is my sig 2022 with both 9 and .40 barrels. |
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Posted: 2/23/2019 6:41:06 PM EDT
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Here is the pc .40 blue box next to 9mm alox red box. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/10063/20181014_134927-747x1328-705543.jpg Pistol is my sig 2022 with both 9 and .40 barrels. The 9’s are powdercoated? |
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Posted: 2/23/2019 7:11:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why do you think the color comes out looking like bedliner? The 9’s are powdercoated? |
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Posted: 2/24/2019 12:40:00 AM EDT
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The 9s are not. The black has an orange peel texture. I used to reload quite a bit but never got into casting bullets. I guess it was because I was mostly shooting high velocity rifles at the time. I did try loading cast bullets for a .38/55 1894 rifle that I still have but all I could get was key holes with it. Jacketed it shot just fine. The bullets were sized & lubed when I got them, no idea what the weight even was now. |
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Posted: 2/24/2019 8:47:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: When taking bison out in the field we always used a 45-70 except the one time I used a 30-30 on a smaller heffer. In the butcher facility we used a 460 s&w revolver due to space limitations Effective and clean everytime |
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Posted: 2/24/2019 10:52:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I see that. I guess as long as it doesn’t foul the barrel it doesn’t matter. I used to reload quite a bit but never got into casting bullets. I guess it was because I was mostly shooting high velocity rifles at the time. I did try loading cast bullets for a .38/55 1894 rifle that I still have but all I could get was key holes with it. Jacketed it shot just fine. The bullets were sized & lubed when I got them, no idea what the weight even was now. |
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Posted: 2/24/2019 11:36:09 AM EDT
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These shoot cleaner than jacketed. No residue. One pull off the boresnake and done. How high can velocity be pushed compared to jacketed? Next questions that come to mind; If a person had a bullet trap on a pistol range could the lead be recycled? Would the powder coat float up with the other impurities during melting? |
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Posted: 2/24/2019 11:56:52 AM EDT
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Have you ever shot one of those? I didn’t realize how light they were until I played with one. With that metal buttpad I bet it’s a wild ride. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Actively looking to join the 45-70 master race. Just have to decide on marlin vs henry. https://www.cdnnsports.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/600x600/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/w/i/win534146142.jpg
That is why there are factory 'Trapdoor' level loads. |
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Posted: 2/24/2019 11:59:56 AM EDT
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There are rifles that you can use LeveRevolution rounds in and there are rifles you cannot use LeveRevolution rounds in. Well, you could but your teef would look like.
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Actively looking to join the 45-70 master race. Just have to decide on marlin vs henry. https://www.cdnnsports.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/600x600/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/w/i/win534146142.jpg
That is why there are factory 'Trapdoor' level loads. You want wild, shoot the Leverevolution out of a 12 inch barrel. |
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Posted: 2/24/2019 12:03:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you want to shoot giant bears you will need a ruger #1 in 45-70...so you can really stuff it to big power. Or be "modern" and use a 375 H&H Magnum. If you have to be vintage, a 600 Nitro Express should level it. Of course the ominous Weatherby 460 magnum works too. 
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Posted: 2/24/2019 12:14:01 PM EDT
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The .45-70 I want is the Enfield conversion Gibbs was planning on reintroducing. 5-7 years ago tbey told me it would be a year or two. Guess they changed their minds.
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Posted: 2/24/2019 12:20:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That’s amazing. How high can velocity be pushed compared to jacketed? Next questions that come to mind; If a person had a bullet trap on a pistol range could the lead be recycled? Would the powder coat float up with the other impurities during melting? Yes, the coating burns off in the pot. |
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Posted: 2/24/2019 12:39:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If I had a spare $900 I'd buy a Winchester https://www.cdnnsports.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/600x600/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/w/i/win534146142.jpg
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Posted: 2/24/2019 2:15:43 PM EDT
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There are rifles that you can use LeveRevolution rounds in and there are rifles you cannot use LeveRevolution rounds in. Well, you could but your teef would look like.
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Actively looking to join the 45-70 master race. Just have to decide on marlin vs henry. https://www.cdnnsports.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/600x600/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/w/i/win534146142.jpg
That is why there are factory 'Trapdoor' level loads. |
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Posted: 2/24/2019 4:44:34 PM EDT
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Does anyone have one of these? https://www.cdnnsports.com/1885-trapper-45-70-16-5.html?___SID=U#.XGi67bh7mHs https://www.cdnnsports.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/w/i/win534146142.jpg I've been tempted but it's 6lbs. |
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Posted: 2/24/2019 7:17:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If I had a spare $900 I'd buy a Winchester https://www.cdnnsports.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/600x600/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/w/i/win534146142.jpg I know it'll probably hurt with anything warm, much like the Ruger #3 carbine that I got my introduction to .45-70 with. Hoping to have a lot of fun with plinking loads. If I can put together a decent shooting load with Lyman's Gould hollow point cast bullet design, might even shoot a deer or two with it. When this one arrives, there will be a round dozen .45-70s here (if the T/C Contender barrel counts as one). Of course, boating accidents, etc, etc. |
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Posted: 2/24/2019 7:53:53 PM EDT
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I had every intention of shooting today, but 50mph winds just didnt seem like good load testing weather.
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Posted: 2/24/2019 8:00:38 PM EDT
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I had every intention of shooting today, but 50mph winds just didnt seem like good load testing weather. |
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Posted: 2/24/2019 8:02:06 PM EDT
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That would be cool just for the experience |
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Posted: 2/24/2019 8:06:02 PM EDT
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Especially since safe1 said the steel targets were swinging in the wind. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That would be cool just for the experience |
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Posted: 2/24/2019 10:16:27 PM EDT
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I had every intention of shooting today, but 50mph winds just didnt seem like good load testing weather. |
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