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Originally Posted By MaxxII: Rek tool just arrived for the Shiro's. Took apart the Neon Ultra Light, and found a couple of bearing missing, and three different serial numbers between the blade, the lock side scale, and the COA. https://i.imgur.com/bxGDJBB.jpeg I bought it second hand off reddit, but I bought it because of the COA. If the COA has a different SN than the blade, and a 3rd completely different SN on the scale How doI know I have an actual Shiro? There is no actual authenticity to the knife? Thoughts? ETA - Seller states he had no idea and I'm inclined to believe him. States he never took the knife apart, and did not know where the serial numbers were located. He has a good "karma" score over on reddit and has sold other good knives in the past. However what he sold was a knife with COA that is worthless, whether or not he knew that at the time and the COA is a big part of the brand. View Quote Purchased new, so no funny business involved. |
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Originally Posted By WIC: This is why people should only buy from me. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By WIC: Originally Posted By MaxxII: Rek tool just arrived for the Shiro’s. Took apart the Neon Ultra Light, and found a couple of bearing missing, and three different serial numbers between the blade, the lock side scale, and the COA. https://i.imgur.com/bxGDJBB.jpeg I bought it second hand off reddit, but I bought it because of the COA. If the COA has a different SN than the blade, and a 3rd completely different SN on the scale… How doI know I have an actual Shiro? There is no actual authenticity to the knife? Thoughts? ETA - Seller states he had no idea and I'm inclined to believe him. States he never took the knife apart, and did not know where the serial numbers were located. He has a good "karma" score over on reddit and has sold other good knives in the past. However what he sold was a knife with COA that is worthless, whether or not he knew that at the time and the COA is a big part of the brand. This is why people should only buy from me. Buying from you (and other Arfcommer’s), has definitely spoiled me. So what are you selling your Neon Light for? |
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Originally Posted By secretwheelman: I can tell you my Stellar has matching numbers on the scales but the blade number is not the same. https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53658474052_cb1611f20e_o.jpg Purchased new, so no funny business involved. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By secretwheelman: Originally Posted By MaxxII: Rek tool just arrived for the Shiro's. Took apart the Neon Ultra Light, and found a couple of bearing missing, and three different serial numbers between the blade, the lock side scale, and the COA. https://i.imgur.com/bxGDJBB.jpeg I bought it second hand off reddit, but I bought it because of the COA. If the COA has a different SN than the blade, and a 3rd completely different SN on the scale How doI know I have an actual Shiro? There is no actual authenticity to the knife? Thoughts? ETA - Seller states he had no idea and I'm inclined to believe him. States he never took the knife apart, and did not know where the serial numbers were located. He has a good "karma" score over on reddit and has sold other good knives in the past. However what he sold was a knife with COA that is worthless, whether or not he knew that at the time and the COA is a big part of the brand. https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53658474052_cb1611f20e_o.jpg Purchased new, so no funny business involved. I’ve got an email out to Shiro to see if there is a way to obtain a certificate of authenticity for this one. |
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Originally Posted By 3xpert: I should dig thru my freezer more often, Bough a couple months back and forgot about them. And first tomato. https://i.imgur.com/3HHvXlp.jpg View Quote I've never seen irish bangers there, will have to remember that. |
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Originally Posted By WIC: I've never seen irish bangers there, will have to remember that. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By WIC: Originally Posted By 3xpert: I should dig thru my freezer more often, Bough a couple months back and forgot about them. And first tomato. https://i.imgur.com/3HHvXlp.jpg I've never seen irish bangers there, will have to remember that. First for me to, Freezer to the left when you walk in. Next to the meat loaves. Edit: Thinking they might be good for a breakfast sausage, find out this weekend. |
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Originally Posted By WIC: Originally Posted By MaxxII: I’ve got an email out to Shiro to see if there is a way to obtain a certificate of authenticity for this one. you speak russian? Nyet. But I am told they have people on staff who speak English quite well. Also, they have this thing with the internet called "Google Translate". It's wild. It takes your written text and can translate into any other language! You should try it! If you go to Shirogorov's website, it's all in Russian. And if you look to the top right corner, there's a little tab that asks if you'd like the website translated to English. If you hit yes, suddenly all the text is in English instead of Cyrillic! |
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Originally Posted By MaxxII: Rek tool just arrived for the Shiro’s. Took apart the Neon Ultra Light, and found a couple of bearing missing, and three different serial numbers between the blade, the lock side scale, and the COA. https://i.imgur.com/bxGDJBB.jpeg I bought it second hand off reddit, but I bought it because of the COA. If the COA has a different SN than the blade, and a 3rd completely different SN on the scale… How doI know I have an actual Shiro? There is no actual authenticity to the knife? Thoughts? ETA - Seller states he had no idea and I'm inclined to believe him. States he never took the knife apart, and did not know where the serial numbers were located. He has a good "karma" score over on reddit and has sold other good knives in the past. However what he sold was a knife with COA that is worthless, whether or not he knew that at the time and the COA is a big part of the brand. View Quote Geez. That’s pretty bad. I would not be happy in that situation. |
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Originally Posted By MaxxII: Thank you both for that. I've also been texting with WIC about this. Seller was unaware of this and we agreed to a partial refund of the knife. He was not happy at the beginning, but then put himself in my shoes and understood that it was not appropriate to leave as is. Rather than a full refund, we agreed to a partial refund that suited us both. View Quote If you’re both happy then that’s ok. Assuming what you have is an authentic shiro then you now have a beater shiro. Cool. I would probably call R1 and explain what you have to see if they’ve seen anything like that before come up. I would hesitate to send the knife to them because they could consider it counterfeit and confiscate it for destruction. |
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Originally Posted By secretwheelman: I can tell you my Stellar has matching numbers on the scales but the blade number is not the same. https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53658474052_cb1611f20e_o.jpg Purchased new, so no funny business involved. View Quote Now I wonder if they do that intentionally to guarantee confirmation of authenticity by having a database of the unique serial numbers associated with a single knife. |
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Originally Posted By 80085: Now I wonder if they do that intentionally to guarantee confirmation of authenticity by having a database of the unique serial numbers associated with a single knife. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By 80085: Originally Posted By secretwheelman: I can tell you my Stellar has matching numbers on the scales but the blade number is not the same. https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53658474052_cb1611f20e_o.jpg Purchased new, so no funny business involved. Now I wonder if they do that intentionally to guarantee confirmation of authenticity by having a database of the unique serial numbers associated with a single knife. |
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Originally Posted By 80085: Now I wonder if they do that intentionally to guarantee confirmation of authenticity by having a database of the unique serial numbers associated with a single knife. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By 80085: Originally Posted By secretwheelman: I can tell you my Stellar has matching numbers on the scales but the blade number is not the same. https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53658474052_cb1611f20e_o.jpg Purchased new, so no funny business involved. Now I wonder if they do that intentionally to guarantee confirmation of authenticity by having a database of the unique serial numbers associated with a single knife. I'm wondering that as well. If they do, and this knife is authenticated (IE - Matching the COA that came with it), I'm going to be apologizing to the seller and sending him the partial refund back, (plus some for his trouble). |
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Originally Posted By DFARM: This grill business is getting out of hand https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/78442/KIMG7278_JPG-3276151.JPG View Quote brownies? |
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Originally Posted By 80085: I have an endless lifetime supply of pão de queijo at home. Unfortunately if I’m not fast enough they disappear and I don’t get any. During the school year this and juice is my kids’ breakfast. It gets made everyday but not a single one makes it my way… greedy little humans. I swear they eat them all intentionally… My wife called me and told me two were waiting for me at home. Score! https://i.imgur.com/kSpRFxj.jpeg View Quote love that stuff I thought you said she didn't cook? knife sucks |
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Originally Posted By WIC: brownies? View Quote Chocolate cake. My middle kid made it. The pan was too small for the batch so it ended up turning into a volcano shape but it was good besides that. |
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Keeping the F3 in the pocket. Cheating on the diet today. Sad excuse for a whoopie pie! Store bought in packages wife picked up somewhere.
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Originally Posted By MaxxII: Update - Tom from Shirogorov responded to my email and reviewed the picture I sent...he verified the knife's authenticity. According to Tom, the numbers on the blade and scale are production numbers and not serial numbers, so they will not match. I had originally purchased the knife for $450, seller refunded me $200. I immediately refunded him the $200 and added $50 to the "refunded-refund" for his time and trouble. Then I contacted him and explained what had happened. He seems much happier now, and I am as well. View Quote If it's possible for the card to not match anything, then what's the fucking point? |
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Originally Posted By MaxxII: Update - Tom from Shirogorov responded to my email and reviewed the picture I sent...he verified the knife's authenticity. According to Tom, the numbers on the blade and scale are production numbers and not serial numbers, so they will not match. I had originally purchased the knife for $450, seller refunded me $200. I immediately refunded him the $200 and added $50 to the "refunded-refund" for his time and trouble. Then I contacted him and explained what had happened. He seems much happier now, and I am as well. View Quote You, sir, are a class act. |
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Originally Posted By rbb2: If it's possible for the card to not match anything, then what's the fucking point? View Quote That confused me as well. But the way I understand it, the card is the written record of the serial number assigned to the production code parts used to assemble the knife. The production numbers are recorded to a master, and the serial number is issued to that collection of parts which are then assembled into a knife. That seems confusing as all hell to me. But it does guarantee that faux COA cards are not a thing? I think? Originally Posted By ParityError: You, sir, are a class act. View Quote Thank you, but it was the least I could do. He was being a stand up guy and refunded money he did not really want to. When I learned the knife was exactly as advertised I was obligated to give him his money back. I honestly figured I ruined his day yesterday since we both thought he'd been taken advantage of by someone else...$50 seemed a fair price to pay for unintentionally instigating that on his end. |
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Originally Posted By MrSig239: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/56211/IMG_8855_jpg-3275677.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/56211/IMG_8857-EDIT_jpg-3275678.JPG Off and on rain today. Did some weeding in the garden. Screwing off the rest of the day till we go out at 5 for a meeting. View Quote Love the purple |
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Originally Posted By MaxxII: Rek tool just arrived for the Shiro’s. Took apart the Neon Ultra Light, and found a couple of bearing missing, and three different serial numbers between the blade, the lock side scale, and the COA. https://i.imgur.com/bxGDJBB.jpeg I bought it second hand off reddit, but I bought it because of the COA. If the COA has a different SN than the blade, and a 3rd completely different SN on the scale… How doI know I have an actual Shiro? There is no actual authenticity to the knife? Thoughts? ETA - Seller states he had no idea and I'm inclined to believe him. States he never took the knife apart, and did not know where the serial numbers were located. He has a good "karma" score over on reddit and has sold other good knives in the past. However what he sold was a knife with COA that is worthless, whether or not he knew that at the time and the COA is a big part of the brand. View Quote Interesting I wonder if each piece is serialized. |
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Originally Posted By 3xpert: I should dig thru my freezer more often, Bough a couple months back and forgot about them. And first tomato. https://i.imgur.com/3HHvXlp.jpg View Quote OooOooo. Bangers and mash with onion gravy.... |
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Originally Posted By Star_Scream: Interesting I wonder if each piece is serialized. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Star_Scream: Originally Posted By MaxxII: Rek tool just arrived for the Shiro’s. Took apart the Neon Ultra Light, and found a couple of bearing missing, and three different serial numbers between the blade, the lock side scale, and the COA. https://i.imgur.com/bxGDJBB.jpeg I bought it second hand off reddit, but I bought it because of the COA. If the COA has a different SN than the blade, and a 3rd completely different SN on the scale… How doI know I have an actual Shiro? There is no actual authenticity to the knife? Thoughts? ETA - Seller states he had no idea and I'm inclined to believe him. States he never took the knife apart, and did not know where the serial numbers were located. He has a good "karma" score over on reddit and has sold other good knives in the past. However what he sold was a knife with COA that is worthless, whether or not he knew that at the time and the COA is a big part of the brand. Interesting I wonder if each piece is serialized. Keep reading. Spoiler alert - those are production codes, not SN’s. |
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Originally Posted By rbb2: If it's possible for the card to not match anything, then what's the fucking point? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By rbb2: Originally Posted By MaxxII: Update - Tom from Shirogorov responded to my email and reviewed the picture I sent...he verified the knife's authenticity. According to Tom, the numbers on the blade and scale are production numbers and not serial numbers, so they will not match. I had originally purchased the knife for $450, seller refunded me $200. I immediately refunded him the $200 and added $50 to the "refunded-refund" for his time and trouble. Then I contacted him and explained what had happened. He seems much happier now, and I am as well. If it's possible for the card to not match anything, then what's the fucking point? |
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Originally Posted By MaxxII: That confused me as well. But the way I understand it, the card is the written record of the serial number assigned to the production code parts used to assemble the knife. The production numbers are recorded to a master, and the serial number is issued to that collection of parts which are then assembled into a knife. That seems confusing as all hell to me. But it does guarantee that faux COA cards are not a thing? I think? Thank you, but it was the least I could do. He was being a stand up guy and refunded money he did not really want to. When I learned the knife was exactly as advertised I was obligated to give him his money back. I honestly figured I ruined his day yesterday since we both thought he'd been taken advantage of by someone else...$50 seemed a fair price to pay for unintentionally instigating that on his end. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By MaxxII: Originally Posted By rbb2: If it's possible for the card to not match anything, then what's the fucking point? That confused me as well. But the way I understand it, the card is the written record of the serial number assigned to the production code parts used to assemble the knife. The production numbers are recorded to a master, and the serial number is issued to that collection of parts which are then assembled into a knife. That seems confusing as all hell to me. But it does guarantee that faux COA cards are not a thing? I think? Originally Posted By ParityError: You, sir, are a class act. Thank you, but it was the least I could do. He was being a stand up guy and refunded money he did not really want to. When I learned the knife was exactly as advertised I was obligated to give him his money back. I honestly figured I ruined his day yesterday since we both thought he'd been taken advantage of by someone else...$50 seemed a fair price to pay for unintentionally instigating that on his end. |
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My neon was absolutely filthy so I decided to check it out for numbers and clean it too. Guess what? It has no numbers inside what's so ever!
COA card means nothing except for matching the box! Attached File Attached File |
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