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Posted: 12/13/2020 1:28:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By enigma1: My newest.............I think she's pure sex................ https://i.imgur.com/AKrAAyN.jpg It does look good, gonna need some details |
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Posted: 12/13/2020 1:28:28 PM EDT
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Turkey bacon is disgusting.
The very thought. 
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Posted: 12/13/2020 1:31:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By evilyoda: Time to contribute: I ordered this guy off of Amazon: $42. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/32554/6869A363-0745-46AD-A256-505A6B36DC3A-1729063.jpg Civivi Praxis. 3.75” blade. Pretty light. Its an EDC “throw away” if I lose it it wont be that bad. And its bright orange Civivi Praxis Folding Pocket Knife, Flipper Liner Lock Tactical Knife 3.75" Satin Blade with G-10 Handles, Reversible Clip for Everyday Carry, Hunting and Outdoor Use C803 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B087CQ5ZBK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glc_i_L6K1FbZ6DFSJ6 I have never liked orange handled items. Strike me as too garish. But just this year during fall yard cleaning, after throwing my knife down multiple times and wasting a fair amount of time searching for it each time so it didn't get thrown out with yard debris, I started thinking maybe orange wasn't such a bad idea. |
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Posted: 12/13/2020 1:59:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sywagon: I do agree I wish they had that sheepdog FS with micarta. The little one just looks stubby, blade is out proportion to the handle or something. I actually bought an Appalachian yesterday but then got a message today it wasn't available. I see there is a bunch on ebay too but I might have moved on. I'd like the bearings and micarta. I really don't get why micarta is only on special editions for most makers that even try it. Where did you buy an Appalachian that had the wrong stock quantity? Yeah, the mini strikes me as too stubby, especially with that handle shape. The factory micarta thing is complicated with Emerson. Only limited runs, dealer exclusives or customs. Mostly dealer exclusives it looks like. So you have to find a dealer that does the micarta version you are looking for. Ye Olde Cutlery Shoppe doesn't repeat special runs. Each run is a different knife. But they have done the micarta a number of times on different knives. Tactical Elements has done a few different runs with micarta IIRC. Some commanders, mostly 7s. Action Concepts on ebay is the only one I know of that has done micarta and bearings for a couple runs, in the Sheepdog. If I had to guess, they will do another run this next fall. There are a few other companies that have done limited runs. But it is a crapshoot what will be offered and what spec. Usually one of the more popular models. As much as I like the Appalachian visually, I don't think their Bowie style blades are among the best selling, so less likely to be done as a special run unless someone like Ye Olde Cutlery picks it up as they do special runs of knives that were more limited (they are hoping to do the Conjurer next). Another consideration, as Op noted, the factory micarta scales are less shaped than the custom made counterparts. So unless there is something else about a special run you really want, like the S35VN that comes on some of them, you may be just as well or better served getting a regular production run knife and having micarta scales made to your tastes. You can get a good Sheepdog on the secondary typically $180-200, they are one of the more popular models, so more out there. Only the Emerson flippers have bearings. Sheepdog was the first. I don't have any flippers but have handled them. They are smooth. But honestly, once I swapped washers in my other Emersons, they are also very smooth. I have to be careful that my Hattin doesn't chop my finger off when I close it. If I know what you are looking for I can keep an eye out. |
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Posted: 12/13/2020 2:07:41 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/13/2020 2:08:22 PM EDT
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@WICOUNSEL
I did edit my post to Para 2. ( was thinking of the 3 that I initially wanted) It was last year when you helped me on the decision to get the 2 Hint: I always gave you crap on drinking milk  Anyways, always loved knives yet spent most of my monies on handguns. Well, 2020 being what it is, has brought me back to my roots. (I. E. Ain’t no real inventory out there for firearms ) All my money Is now going towards cutlery . items  Speaking of which, anyone here familiar with Ravencrest OTF Still leaning towards a Microtech utx 85 Thanks in advance. |
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Posted: 12/13/2020 2:28:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Justabulletaway: I've been waiting for a super slicy shipment from the North but alas, the USPS sucks donkey dicks right now so... I guess I'll have to use this "slicer grind" Hinderer to get the job done. Is it up to the task? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/436951/20201213_104358_01-1728956.jpg Holy shit, it worked! https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/436951/20201213_104529_01-1728958.jpg Some olives and sharp cheddar make it complete. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/436951/20201213_105222_01-1728959.jpg BTW, Kroger's Private Selection store brand is really top notch. This summer sausage is my favorite as far as store bought goes. Damn. That takes me back. One of my favorite grammar school lunches was Hickory Farms Beefstick sausage, chunks of Swiss cheese and Wheat Thins. I was not the only one that loved it. I could trade it for just about anything. Was like weed in prison. Lol |
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Posted: 12/13/2020 2:34:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WICOUNSEL: I was letting that slide, but I love to see how you constantly work to raise the standards in the thread.  It's all the rage these days. Cooking a lot makes a lot of dishes already and running the dishwasher constantly is annoying |
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Posted: 12/13/2020 2:35:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By USMC_Dad: LionSteel TRE It’s also in my avatar Made in Italy. M390 steel. Which is pretty cool. I should put a knife in my av |
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Posted: 12/13/2020 2:50:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Star_Scream: Which is pretty cool. I should put a knife in my av Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Star_Scream: Originally Posted By USMC_Dad: LionSteel TRE It’s also in my avatar Made in Italy. M390 steel. Which is pretty cool. I should put a knife in my av  Attached File |
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Posted: 12/13/2020 2:57:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By USMC_Dad: @WICOUNSEL I did edit my post to Para 2. ( was thinking of the 3 that I initially wanted) It was last year when you helped me on the decision to get the 2 Hint: I always gave you crap on drinking milk Anyways, always loved knives yet spent most of my monies on handguns. Well, 2020 being what it is, has brought me back to my roots. (I. E. Ain’t no real inventory out there for firearms ) All my money Is now going towards cutlery . items Speaking of which, anyone here familiar with Ravencrest OTF Still leaning towards a Microtech utx 85 Thanks in advance. Go with the fullsize. I was toying with getting the 85 when I got mine and others had recommended going fullsize because they still aren't that large of a knife, to begin with. |
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Posted: 12/13/2020 3:12:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SecretSquirell: Go with the fullsize. I was toying with getting the 85 when I got mine and others had recommended going fullsize because they still aren't that large of a knife, to begin with. You, like myself love copper everything.  Will indeed consider the the full size. Still thinking 85 for edc. The 70 is cool, yet way to small |
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Posted: 12/13/2020 3:37:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By enigma1: My newest.............I think she's pure sex................ https://i.imgur.com/AKrAAyN.jpg Looks cool! |
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Posted: 12/13/2020 3:49:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By USMC_Dad: You, like myself love copper everything. Will indeed consider the the full size. Still thinking 85 for edc. The 70 is cool, yet way to small Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By USMC_Dad: Originally Posted By SecretSquirell: Go with the fullsize. I was toying with getting the 85 when I got mine and others had recommended going fullsize because they still aren't that large of a knife, to begin with. You, like myself love copper everything. Will indeed consider the the full size. Still thinking 85 for edc. The 70 is cool, yet way to small I saw those copper ones somewhere (can't remember right now) and really wanted to get one. I was being a cheap ass and didn't. |
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Posted: 12/13/2020 3:50:55 PM EDT
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Had a bit of a spastic moment and went overboard on the syrup this morning. Haven't had bacon in a while, really hit the spot.
Plain Jane PM2 from the seconds sale for $53. The only thing I can find is that the action is a little stiff (or had a touch of side to side play if you loosen it to drop shut). I have it just tight enough for no play right now, I'm thinking about loosening it up by like 1/10th of a turn and using it for a while to see if it will break in. Might also do a super light polish on the washers. 
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Posted: 12/13/2020 4:04:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By USMC_Dad: You, like myself love copper everything. Will indeed consider the the full size. Still thinking 85 for edc. The 70 is cool, yet way to small The full size Ultratech is super slim. It carries very small. |
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Posted: 12/13/2020 4:09:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WICOUNSEL: Damn it, they are spreading the drops out to buy themselves shipping time and let more people potentially get one. Had I known there was micarta coming I would have waited! https://i.imgur.com/nMCvtqm.jpg I think yours looks better |
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Posted: 12/13/2020 4:10:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By USMC_Dad: @WICOUNSEL Better??? And a cameo of the Para 2 you helped me decide on. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/50175/E8E275F7-D2E9-431A-9B7A-E26846D8AA88_jpe-1729060.JPG Blurple |
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Posted: 12/13/2020 4:13:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By evilyoda: Time to contribute: I ordered this guy off of Amazon: $42. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/32554/6869A363-0745-46AD-A256-505A6B36DC3A-1729063.jpg Civivi Praxis. 3.75” blade. Pretty light. Its an EDC “throw away” if I lose it it wont be that bad. And its bright orange Civivi Praxis Folding Pocket Knife, Flipper Liner Lock Tactical Knife 3.75" Satin Blade with G-10 Handles, Reversible Clip for Everyday Carry, Hunting and Outdoor Use C803 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B087CQ5ZBK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glc_i_L6K1FbZ6DFSJ6 It's always time to contribute! |
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Posted: 12/13/2020 4:15:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WICOUNSEL: Turkey bacon is disgusting. The very thought. There are very few good ones. Last year when I had to cut out fats I gave a few a try and then just gave up and switched to Canuckistani bacon |
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Posted: 12/13/2020 4:18:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rbb2: Had a bit of a spastic moment and went overboard on the syrup this morning. Haven't had bacon in a while, really hit the spot. Plain Jane PM2 from the seconds sale for $53. The only thing I can find is that the action is a little stiff (or had a touch of side to side play if you loosen it to drop shut). I have it just tight enough for no play right now, I'm thinking about loosening it up by like 1/10th of a turn and using it for a while to see if it will break in. Might also do a super light polish on the washers. https://i.imgur.com/SAlO6RD.jpg Texas State Surplus Store in Austin ( where they take confiscated stuff) has a good amount of Spydercos. I always look through them for a matriarch or civilian type knife but there’s always some good ones for like $30. They have so many different models it’s hard to tell what’s a diamond in the rough. |
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Posted: 12/13/2020 4:38:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Justabulletaway: The full size Ultratech is super slim. It carries very small. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Justabulletaway: Originally Posted By USMC_Dad: You, like myself love copper everything. Will indeed consider the the full size. Still thinking 85 for edc. The 70 is cool, yet way to small The full size Ultratech is super slim. It carries very small. This. Easy to forget you're carrying it until you put your hand in your pocket or lean up against something. |
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Posted: 12/13/2020 4:48:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Star_Scream: I think yours looks better But micarta... |
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Posted: 12/13/2020 4:49:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rbb2: Had a bit of a spastic moment and went overboard on the syrup this morning. Haven't had bacon in a while, really hit the spot. Plain Jane PM2 from the seconds sale for $53. The only thing I can find is that the action is a little stiff (or had a touch of side to side play if you loosen it to drop shut). I have it just tight enough for no play right now, I'm thinking about loosening it up by like 1/10th of a turn and using it for a while to see if it will break in. Might also do a super light polish on the washers. https://i.imgur.com/SAlO6RD.jpg Food looks good. #fucks30v |
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Posted: 12/13/2020 4:51:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By USMC_Dad: You, like myself love copper everything. Will indeed consider the the full size. Still thinking 85 for edc. The 70 is cool, yet way to small 70 is tiny, it really serves no practical purpose unless you live in a restrictive jurisdiction. 85 is OK. Full size isn't really that big, it's a good EDC size. |
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Posted: 12/13/2020 4:52:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Star_Scream: It's all the rage these days. Cooking a lot makes a lot of dishes already and running the dishwasher constantly is annoying I shouldn't expect you to have any class... |
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Posted: 12/13/2020 5:00:18 PM EDT
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Got a couple new ones from the Spyderco seconds sale.
 And I ordered a ZT0562CF today that was price well on Amazon. |
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Posted: 12/13/2020 5:06:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Goosemaster: Got a couple new ones from the Spyderco seconds sale. https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50706679553_c459fdf7c3_k.jpg And I ordered a ZT0562CF today that was price well on Amazon. ZT has MAP pricing. If it was priced too well then it could be a fake. That knife is counterfeited a lot. |
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Posted: 12/13/2020 5:06:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By USMC_Dad: @WICOUNSEL I did edit my post to Para 2. ( was thinking of the 3 that I initially wanted) It was last year when you helped me on the decision to get the 2 Hint: I always gave you crap on drinking milk Anyways, always loved knives yet spent most of my monies on handguns. Well, 2020 being what it is, has brought me back to my roots. (I. E. Ain’t no real inventory out there for firearms ) All my money Is now going towards cutlery . items Speaking of which, anyone here familiar with Ravencrest OTF Still leaning towards a Microtech utx 85 Thanks in advance. I remember all that, just couldn't remember if you had decided on the 2 or 3. I thought 2, but thought the TRE was small, so your reference to the 3 threw me. Was it that long ago though? I thought it was earlier this year, maybe 6 months ago? I am getting old... Skip the Ravencrest, overpriced Chinese junk. If you want a Chinese OTF, Lightning. But try to get the Taiwan version, I think they still do both. Microtech is still where it is at for OTFs. Solid product for the money. You remind me...need to talk to my FFL... |
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Posted: 12/13/2020 5:09:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Justabulletaway: ZT has MAP pricing. If it was priced too well then it could be a fake. That knife is counterfeited a lot. I plan on checking it over well when I get it. price was $213. |
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Posted: 12/13/2020 5:12:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 3xpert: https://i.imgur.com/6tQDMyX.jpg Nice. Seems a little aggressive for left overs |
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Posted: 12/13/2020 5:12:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Goosemaster: I plan on checking it over well when I get it. price was $213. That's probably legit then. |
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Posted: 12/13/2020 5:19:54 PM EDT
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Sometimes Amazon has really good deals on knives. Saw someone explain it once. Something to do with their software, items out of stock, then coming back in, pricing goes wonky until someone steps in to manually re enter the MAP pricing from ZT.
JABA is also correct that there are a fair few fakes out there, pretty good ones on that knife. Amazon polices them when reported, but things still pop up anew. |
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Posted: 12/13/2020 5:22:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rbb2: Had a bit of a spastic moment and went overboard on the syrup this morning. Haven't had bacon in a while, really hit the spot. Plain Jane PM2 from the seconds sale for $53. The only thing I can find is that the action is a little stiff (or had a touch of side to side play if you loosen it to drop shut). I have it just tight enough for no play right now, I'm thinking about loosening it up by like 1/10th of a turn and using it for a while to see if it will break in. Might also do a super light polish on the washers. https://i.imgur.com/SAlO6RD.jpg Ahh Sunday.. We did brunch earlier but my pic turned out poorly 
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Posted: 12/13/2020 5:30:51 PM EDT
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  The cheese situation is dire. |
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Posted: 12/13/2020 5:58:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WICOUNSEL: oooohhh, that's why they look so angry each time they have to come talk to me. Yeah....It gets kinda old telling people the same thing, multiple times a week. |
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Posted: 12/13/2020 5:58:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SecretSquirell: The one we had on post at Ft Riley was great. Always clean, served fast. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SecretSquirell: Originally Posted By WICOUNSEL: Originally Posted By SecretSquirell: I'd still eat Popeye's whenever I could. The only one near us takes about an hour round trip and the service is horrible. We've never been there and had our food in less than 20 minutes. I've had to go in multiple times because they jacked something up and the place was always filled with smoke from the fryer. Then biscuits though.  #smh #illnoise #nostandards The one we had on post at Ft Riley was great. Always clean, served fast. But did it have a dungeon? What went on in the dungeon? |
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Posted: 12/13/2020 6:00:42 PM EDT
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@WICOUNSEL
Weren't you looking for one of these? https://www.reddit.com/r/Knife_Swap/comments/kcj8w9/ad20_custom_sheepsfoot/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share 
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Posted: 12/13/2020 6:02:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WICOUNSEL: https://i.imgur.com/wptxxNul.jpg Been waiting on this for a couple weeks Wasn't sure if it would be my thing, but reading up on it, they said they were only doing one run because the difficulties to execute the design were just too much, it was seven years in the making. Figured, should be easy to get my money back if it didn't pan out and there were a lot of design features I liked. They usually have their stuff made in the US, but for this one, I heard after purchasing that they said they had to "off shore" it to make it happen. nice presentation. embroidered. https://i.imgur.com/g5lg27tl.jpg My initial thought when I heard off shore was WE or Reate. Someone else mentioned Maniago. PDW is staying tight lipped. https://i.imgur.com/Afpo3Mwl.jpg This is not WE or Reate. Or I would be very surprised to learn it was. I've handled enough of those. https://i.imgur.com/OjORzxrl.jpg It is very nicely done, but there are a few very very minor imperfections that I don't think WE or Reate would let slide. Well, maybe WE would, but this doesn't feel like a WE in other ways. There is a small scratch in the finish of the bolster lock and there are a couple tiny tiny voids in the G10 where they don't touch the liners on the edge. My finger nail just barely catches in a few places where the G10 meets the Ti on the face of the scales. Not trying to nitpick, just doesn't feel like this is WE or Reate production. Gonna go with Maniago, but not Viper. I believe someone was suggesting Lionsteel. I have not handled a Lionsteel, but from what I have seen and heard, that would not surprise me. That aside, this is a neat design, lot of thought went into details, which is to be expected, PDW is a design company. Feels great in the hand, much better than expected. It is light, but not so light that it feels cheap or flimsy. Solid, but not in a heavy clumsy way, more reassuring. Action is great, lockup is great, centering is great, size better than expected. The only design aspect that is a little bothersome given how much thought they clearly gave everything else, is that the pivot heads sit proud of the scales as the scales taper to the finger choils. End of the world, no, but it is inconsistent with everything else they were trying to do by design. Other than the items noted, everything else is perfectly flush. https://i.imgur.com/y0Y3hBVl.jpg https://i.imgur.com/TejmB8vl.jpg Really well executed. I like it more than I thought I would. https://i.imgur.com/y5DUGKSl.jpg Kinda funky lock bar too. Stays straight with the liner and then cuts in at the last stretch. https://i.imgur.com/ReARH5yl.jpg Frankly, with it's size and how it feels in hand, it reminds me in a lot of ways of the A-100. Which I also really like. Interesting. What steel? I've never heard of these guys, but that's not really surprising. With the relief at the spine side of the blade it almost looks like a flipper? |
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Posted: 12/13/2020 6:03:30 PM EDT
[Last Edit: rbb2]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Justabulletaway: ZT has MAP pricing. If it was priced too well then it could be a fake. That knife is counterfeited a lot. User pinechaos on reddit is a dealer that routinely sells below MAP on r/knife_swap I know he does spyderco and ZT. I've bought several knives from him without issue, as have many, many others on that sub. Edit autocorrect got me. |
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Posted: 12/13/2020 6:05:39 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Star_Scream: I think I'll wear a Bolo tie in Missouri MBGA - Make Bolo's Great Again Originally Posted By Star_Scream: I like Rosie, very cute and loves dogs. Yes. |
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Posted: 12/13/2020 6:07:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rbb2: @WICOUNSEL Weren't you looking for one of these? https://www.reddit.com/r/Knife_Swap/comments/kcj8w9/ad20_custom_sheepsfoot/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share https://i.imgur.com/7kzt6Xb.jpg No, but thanks for thinking of me. I like the looks of it, and the yellow. |
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Posted: 12/13/2020 6:08:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MaxxII: Interesting. What steel? I've never heard of these guys, but that's not really surprising. With the relief at the spine side of the blade it almost looks like a flipper? M390 They are a trendy design company for upscale "outdoorsmen". No flipping. |
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Posted: 12/13/2020 6:08:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mygreenkaw: It's in the wild now...  Sorry I don't control the shit lighting here.... Whatcha drinkin? Almost looks like a port. |
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Posted: 12/13/2020 6:09:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rbb2: User pinechaos on reddit is a dealer that routinely sells below MAP on r/knife_swap I know he does spyderco and ZT. I've bought several knives from him without issue, as have many, many others on that sub. Edit autocorrect got me. He used to be on BF all the time too. BF was maybe too obvious? |
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Posted: 12/13/2020 6:10:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Justabulletaway: I just like that nice sized It will make a great steak knife. Are the studs tritium or regular GITD? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Justabulletaway: Originally Posted By WICOUNSEL: M390 The design though is from PDW here in the US. They have done a number of knives with variations of this design. Oh, and it has GITD thumb stud inserts  now I can be one of the cool kids ETA: It's their Invictus design. I had been looking at them a while back and was pulled in actually by their use of dendritic cobalt blade steel. Interesting stuff. I think there have been some Protech versions too. And if I find it, someone had a picture of how similar this design is to the A100 and a Gerber from way back, maybe the Applesomethingsomething? I just like that nice sized It will make a great steak knife. Are the studs tritium or regular GITD? What are GITD studs? ETA - Glow In The Dark....duh! |
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Posted: 12/13/2020 6:10:24 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/13/2020 6:14:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sywagon:  Thanks. I watched a video just now on cutting in butter - who knew? I've never gotten into baking at all so I'm going to have to give it a go. Nice photograph! |
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Posted: 12/13/2020 6:17:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kuraki: I would volunteer to do it for you but I am horrible at modeling anything that isn't mechanical/parametric. @stimpsonjcat what software do you use for modeling? Blender. Or if it is really simple the Flashprint SW that came with the printer is sometimes enough. |
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Posted: 12/13/2020 6:21:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WICOUNSEL: breakfast this morning   pretty tasty Looks good in the pan...... Aaaaaaaannnnnnnd then.... We see the easy cheese and turkey bacon. I wonder about you sometimes.... |
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