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Link Posted: 12/31/2023 8:24:15 AM EDT
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This - it is illegal to camp in the left lanes.
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It's also illegal to exceed the posted speed limit. How does one legally pass someone doing the speed limit no matter what lane they are in?
Link Posted: 12/31/2023 8:29:48 AM EDT
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It's been basic knowledge since interstates were invented that you move your slow ass into the right lane and let people pass on the left lane when driving OUTSIDE of the city limits.  There was never a law needed until the mental midgets started getting a license and thinking they own the roadway.  Slower traffic in the right lane allows for people to exit the highway and enter without impeding the flow.  A lot of states have enacted laws about it and it's also for emergency vehicles to get through using the left lane.  Even Tennessee enacted the "Slow Poke Law" to keep them out of the left lane as well as numerous other states.

If you can't understand the basic concepts of driving on an interstate then hang up your keys, Fudd.
Link Posted: 12/31/2023 8:32:04 AM EDT
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What if there are too many cars for just the right lane to accommodate? Obviously, the extra cars have to go in the left lane.

Plus, since the left lane gets used less frequently, it has fewer bumps and ruts in it, and is a smoother ride.
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Simple answer, enjoy you ticket for impeding traffic.
Link Posted: 12/31/2023 9:23:30 AM EDT
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Driver should have not conversed with the cop and responded with "I don't answer questions" especially after the cop threw in this little gem,

"Any weapons in the car?"



Link Posted: 12/31/2023 9:25:33 AM EDT
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Good stop
Link Posted: 12/31/2023 9:26:15 AM EDT
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OP has now started a thread with a video I posted on facebook 3 days ago.
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Facebook? You 70?
Link Posted: 12/31/2023 9:26:42 AM EDT
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Violating the law is criminal. Not violating the law is... suspicious.


... In all honesty, a Texan driving the speed limit is rare enough that something is probably broken on the car.
Link Posted: 12/31/2023 9:32:29 AM EDT
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You sound like a po-po. He's doing the speed limit, and people are going over the speed limit to pass him, yet he gets pulled over. Find someone else to fucking harass. "Going with the flow of traffic" gets thrown out the window when they want to write speeding tickets.
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Link Posted: 12/31/2023 9:32:42 AM EDT
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Good.
Link Posted: 12/31/2023 9:34:40 AM EDT
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Just give him the ticket instead of filling in your promo video. Good Lord.
Link Posted: 12/31/2023 9:37:01 AM EDT
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GOOD!
Link Posted: 12/31/2023 9:40:46 AM EDT
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OUTSTANDING.

So tired of dipshit drivers , stupid should hurt, be expensive or both.
Link Posted: 12/31/2023 9:41:12 AM EDT
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Arizona does not have a “speed limit”.  ARS 28-701.

The signs on the highway can be used to determine a violation, but abiding or not abiding isn’t the delineating factor.  You can get a “speeding” ticket for going 55 in a 75.

The law says reasonable and prudent.  It’s not R&P to go 75 in dense fog even if the sign says that’s the limit.  It could be R&P to go 75 in a posted 65 if you’re passing.

It’s not R&P to camp in the left lane at the posted limit when people are passing you on the right.
Link Posted: 12/31/2023 9:45:27 AM EDT
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There's no conflict. Regardless of speed limits and speed, you move to the right whenever you aren't passing.
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This means that the speed limit law is the issue here that should be revised and not necessarily the left lane / impeding traffic law.

The core of my argument is that the laws conflict and the laws should be looked at being changed.

There's no conflict. Regardless of speed limits and speed, you move to the right whenever you aren't passing.


There is a conflict. No one has any incentive to make it easier for someone else to commit a crime. Are you a criminal? Should someone be forced to get out of your way when you're committing a crime by penalty of law? Do you not see how slippery of a slope that is?
Link Posted: 12/31/2023 9:48:51 AM EDT
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30 years ago I had a Travis County motor deputy get a conviction on a state employee who was impeding traffic on I-35 for 55 in a 55. Her excuse was that she was going the speed limit so everyone else should.
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This is the case for many of the left lane campers. They think they are the traffic police.
YOU WILL DO THE SPEED LIMIT! 55 IS 55!
Stay off the highway, Karen's.
Link Posted: 12/31/2023 9:49:39 AM EDT
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Listen... driving is hard for some people and that JBT was just stomping all over that guy being all mellow in the left lane.
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Troll much?
Link Posted: 12/31/2023 9:50:15 AM EDT
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That's a good cop.  We need more of him.
Link Posted: 12/31/2023 9:51:14 AM EDT
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You are much nicer than me, I say summary roadside execution.
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Sure wish there was a lot more of that nationwide.   Fuck left lane campers!   They should be sent to FEMA re-education camps.   Nobody wants to hear your bullshit about how you're doing the speed limit.  Fuck you.



You are much nicer than me, I say summary roadside execution.


Link Posted: 12/31/2023 9:52:36 AM EDT
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The victim said he was going the speed limit.

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Victim?
The only victims were the people stuck behind the left lane camper who was blocking the flow of traffic as the cops observed and stated.

Link Posted: 12/31/2023 9:53:46 AM EDT
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There is a conflict. No one has any incentive to make it easier for someone else to commit a crime. Are you a criminal? Should someone be forced to get out of your way when you're committing a crime by penalty of law? Do you not see how slippery of a slope that is?
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It's Muhh hwy and I'z gonna enforce the speeds limitzz on every body!  LOL




Link Posted: 12/31/2023 9:53:48 AM EDT
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So does the left lane have a higher speed limit than the right lane?
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No but there is a sign that says stay right except to pass.

Most states that's traffic law
Link Posted: 12/31/2023 9:54:07 AM EDT
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You sound like a po-po. He's doing the speed limit, and people are going over the speed limit to pass him, yet he gets pulled over. Find someone else to fucking harass. "Going with the flow of traffic" gets thrown out the window when they want to write speeding tickets.
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Found one….


Move over fuddly
Link Posted: 12/31/2023 9:54:58 AM EDT
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The law here says “keep right, except to pass.” So, it’s technically illegal to drive in that lane at all, unless you are passing.


Link Posted: 12/31/2023 9:56:03 AM EDT
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You sound like a po-po. He's doing the speed limit, and people are going over the speed limit to pass him, yet he gets pulled over. Find someone else to fucking harass. "Going with the flow of traffic" gets thrown out the window when they want to write speeding tickets.
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Impending traffic
Causing a dangerous situation

Just being a fuckwit is cause enough.

Idgaf if he was going the limit.  He was breaking other laws.
Link Posted: 12/31/2023 9:56:35 AM EDT
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Go the fucking speed limit.

Those 3 minutes you save are meaningless.
Link Posted: 12/31/2023 10:00:11 AM EDT
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Not sure why it’s such a hard concept for people to understand. People like to argue that if they’re driving the speed limit they did nothing wrong. That’s like arguing you weren’t speeding when you failed to yield to traffic when you had a yield sign or driving straight through an intersection when you’re in the left turn only lane.. you weren’t pulled over for speeding…

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It's also illegal to exceed the posted speed limit. How does one legally pass someone doing the speed limit no matter what lane they are in?
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Why would you need to pass someone who is going the maximum speed allowed by law?

If you are that concerned with obeying the posted speed limit, and the other driver is going the speed limit, tgen just follow them.
Link Posted: 12/31/2023 10:10:06 AM EDT
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Listen... driving is hard for some people and that JBT was just stomping all over that guy being all mellow in the left lane.
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Left lane?  Good.
Link Posted: 12/31/2023 10:11:26 AM EDT
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So does the left lane have a higher speed limit than the right lane?
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Left lane is for passing. Slower traffic is supposed to keep right. Those signs mean something too.
Link Posted: 12/31/2023 10:18:05 AM EDT
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Nothing new.  I have known several officers over the years that will pull over people either going the speed limit or under the speed limit in the left lane during rush hour.  

This was done as far back as the 80s


It is considered dangerous driving and impeding the flow of traffic.   Not to mention alot of people are aggravated during rush hour and it could escalate to someone doing something to the person impeding the traffic flow or to drivers doing reckless behavior trying to get around this person.
Link Posted: 12/31/2023 10:18:37 AM EDT
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What is with this fixation on the speed limit? What does the speed limit have to do with it?

You. Don't. Go. In. The. Left. Lane. Unless. You're. Passing.

Where are you people all getting speed limits from?

Are you passing as you're doing the speed limit? No? Then get the fuck out of the left lane. It's quite simple.

The idiot in the video clearly wasn't passing. Good stop and I wouldn't even be mad if the cop P.I.T.ed his ass off the road first.

Learn to drive or take the bus.
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So does the left lane have a higher speed limit than the right lane?


What is with this fixation on the speed limit? What does the speed limit have to do with it?

You. Don't. Go. In. The. Left. Lane. Unless. You're. Passing.

Where are you people all getting speed limits from?

Are you passing as you're doing the speed limit? No? Then get the fuck out of the left lane. It's quite simple.

The idiot in the video clearly wasn't passing. Good stop and I wouldn't even be mad if the cop P.I.T.ed his ass off the road first.

Learn to drive or take the bus.

They seem to think there is only one rule of the road and they can disregard all others.

The sad part is that the rules they disregard are often more important for safety and efficient traffic flow than the speed limit.
Link Posted: 12/31/2023 10:18:52 AM EDT
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There is a conflict. No one has any incentive to make it easier for someone else to commit a crime. Are you a criminal? Should someone be forced to get out of your way when you're committing a crime by penalty of law? Do you not see how slippery of a slope that is?
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Do you know the point of arguing? It is not to be right, but to get it right. Consider other people's points.

Where exactly is the conflict?

Don't drive it the passing lane. Passing lane is for passing only. Don't go above the legal speed limit.

Other person going the speed limit? Then you have no need to pass them if you're going the same speed. Simple enough.

It is not about allowing "criminal" (in my state, it is just a violation) activity. If everyone follows the law exactly, then everyone would just drive in the driving lane. Until they came to a slower vehicle and would pass in the passing lane (not exceeding the speed limit).
Link Posted: 12/31/2023 10:21:11 AM EDT
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Good stop.
Link Posted: 12/31/2023 10:24:54 AM EDT
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I suspect he didn't write a ticket and doubt you can be written a ticket for failing to speed.
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He certainly could

Most states have fail to stay right laws

Link Posted: 12/31/2023 10:25:31 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/31/2023 10:37:11 AM EDT
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Funny/sad fact:  the rando Redditor comments are neary 100% against left lane camping…ARFCOM…not so much.

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This place is all “won’t comply, don’t tread on me, fuck the state” until it’s a speed limit.

Link Posted: 12/31/2023 10:38:44 AM EDT
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Do you know the point of arguing? It is not to be right, but to get it right. Consider other people's points.

Where exactly is the conflict?

Don't drive it the passing lane. Passing lane is for passing only. Don't go above the legal speed limit.

Other person going the speed limit? Then you have no need to pass them if you're going the same speed. Simple enough.

It is not about allowing "criminal" (in my state, it is just a violation) activity. If everyone follows the law exactly, then everyone would just drive in the driving lane. Until they came to a slower vehicle and would pass in the passing lane (not exceeding the speed limit).
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There is a conflict. No one has any incentive to make it easier for someone else to commit a crime. Are you a criminal? Should someone be forced to get out of your way when you're committing a crime by penalty of law? Do you not see how slippery of a slope that is?


Do you know the point of arguing? It is not to be right, but to get it right. Consider other people's points.

Where exactly is the conflict?

Don't drive it the passing lane. Passing lane is for passing only. Don't go above the legal speed limit.

Other person going the speed limit? Then you have no need to pass them if you're going the same speed. Simple enough.

It is not about allowing "criminal" (in my state, it is just a violation) activity. If everyone follows the law exactly, then everyone would just drive in the driving lane. Until they came to a slower vehicle and would pass in the passing lane (not exceeding the speed limit).


Yet there are a whole lot of angry people in this thread indicating that speeding is okay as long as someone calls it passing. Don't twist it into thinking they're saying anything but that. If someone is already going the LIMIT and you want to pass, it requires SPEEDING to do so.

Most of the idiots in here have probably never even been to AZ. We all drive fast here. 80-90mph isn't uncommon. Actually finding people driving the speed limit IS uncommon, in all lanes. But that doesn't make it right either. That isn't "getting it right". That's making up your own damn rules. Again, slippery slope.

I'm advocating that speed limits themselves be re-evaluated since clearly no one follows the law.
Link Posted: 12/31/2023 10:38:55 AM EDT
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Dick cop was taking up a lane pacing that truck.  THATs what caused people to drive all fucky.  Left lane is for fast, right lane is for exits, middle lane is for through traffic.  Go arrest some other guy, fuckstick.
Link Posted: 12/31/2023 10:39:43 AM EDT
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Nope, but if you're not actively passing someone you stay the fuck out of it.  It should be common sense
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So does the left lane have a higher speed limit than the right lane?
Nope, but if you're not actively passing someone you stay the fuck out of it.  It should be common sense

What is the legal speed limit for passing?  Is it 5 over? 10 over?  Are we advocating breaking the law on this site now?
Link Posted: 12/31/2023 10:41:02 AM EDT
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Do you know the point of arguing? It is not to be right, but to get it right. Consider other people's points.

Where exactly is the conflict?

Don't drive it the passing lane. Passing lane is for passing only. Don't go above the legal speed limit.

Other person going the speed limit? Then you have no need to pass them if you're going the same speed. Simple enough.

It is not about allowing "criminal" (in my state, it is just a violation) activity. If everyone follows the law exactly, then everyone would just drive in the driving lane. Until they came to a slower vehicle and would pass in the passing lane (not exceeding the speed limit).
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Holy shit, it isn’t difficult


Go whatever speed you want. If you exceed the posted speed limit you are opening up the possibility of being stoped and cited for that.

If you merge into the left lane, the passing lane, then it should be to pass/overtake a vehicle traveling slower than your vehicle. Once you have completed passing/overtaking the vehicle(s), just back into the center or right lane.
Link Posted: 12/31/2023 10:42:29 AM EDT
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What is the legal speed limit for passing?  Is it 5 over? 10 over?  Are we advocating breaking the law on this site now?
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So does the left lane have a higher speed limit than the right lane?
Nope, but if you're not actively passing someone you stay the fuck out of it.  It should be common sense

What is the legal speed limit for passing?  Is it 5 over? 10 over?  Are we advocating breaking the law on this site now?


One dude is advocating execution for anyone unwilling to allow the breaking of the law
Link Posted: 12/31/2023 10:42:52 AM EDT
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The speed limit is a legal fiction of the state.  

Most people obey the more local law - the law of physics, which says to stay within the flow of traffic, usually 5-15MPH over the speed limit on TN interstates.

Nowadays even the troopers seem to grasp this.
Link Posted: 12/31/2023 10:45:56 AM EDT
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Yes, common sense is not very common.  The left hand lane is NOT a driving lane.  It is a passing lane and if a driver is not passing or preparing for a left hand turn, they have no business driving in the left lane.  TN has TCA that states the left lane should be used for passing or preparing for a left hand turn, otherwise vehicle should be driven in the right  lane.  OP should have started thread with, "AZ Sheriff pulls over Texan for for driving in the left lane." It would have been more honest and far more accurate.  Also, the greatest police power is the power of discretion.  Most police in my area give drivers between 10 and 15 mph over the speed limit before they stop and cite the driver for speeding.  People who drive in the left lane side by side another vehicle in the right lane should have their driver's license revoked.
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