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Posted: 7/15/2024 11:13:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BRS1912: Huh, because when you look at Trumps right fingers after he touched his ear, they have blood on them, which is when he realized oh shit and went down. Frauds and traitors, the whole lot of them. I think they're desperate. |
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Posted: 7/15/2024 11:14:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TaskForce: Yeah I think that would be a really good idea. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TaskForce: Originally Posted By nu3gawhat: You dont think a part of planning for an event like this is for friendly forces to be readily identifable? Yeah I think that would be a really good idea. I’m a little surprised we don’t have any ex SS guys on here commenting. But that probably goes into TTP’s. |
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Posted: 7/15/2024 11:14:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bravo_Six: Sadder still, he spent $1400 to talk to some fat disgusting chick on OF. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bravo_Six: Originally Posted By TaskForce: Originally Posted By Bravo_Six: But what did he pay $1400 to that OF hooker for?  That's even sadder. He spent $1400 to talk to someone on OF? Sadder still, he spent $1400 to talk to some fat disgusting chick on OF. You ever notice that skinny incel looking dudes love them some plumpers? |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 7/15/2024 11:14:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FlashMan-7k: I have to stop and ask, was the roof insulated? If not ... HELLO, guy panther-crawling up the roof dragging a rifle? BANG THUD WHUMP DRAG EEEEE sounds inside of the building! LMAO thanks for this it had me laughing for sure. Salient point |
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Posted: 7/15/2024 11:14:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CouncilOfDave: I'm as cynical as I can possibly be, yet still utterly dumbfounded how Reee Tardy Oswald basically Forest Gumped the entire thing. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CouncilOfDave: Originally Posted By RarestRX: Originally Posted By Bigger_Hammer: He had elite NINJA training  Bigger_Hammer  I was firmly on the "This is just .Gov incompetence." side, but now this kid is walking around with a fucking ladder and a rifle case? JFC.  This shit was coordinated at least on one side if not two ...fed/local |
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Posted: 7/15/2024 11:14:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ranging-by-zipcode: That has to be made up Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ranging-by-zipcode: Originally Posted By RSG: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GSk1MVYWsAAVLQ-?format=jpg&name=small That has to be made up It had better be made up. Given how the timeline is shaping up, it could fit. 
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Posted: 7/15/2024 11:15:13 PM EDT
[Last Edit: LordEC911]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RainierV: This is just insane. Are they instructed not to leave their positions or something? Guy whips out a range-finder and all they can do is radio command??? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RainierV: Originally Posted By RSG:
This is just insane. Are they instructed not to leave their positions or something? Guy whips out a range-finder and all they can do is radio command??? Probably. This is the stupidest B-plot movie idea ever. Assassin gets spotted by snipers scoping out the building they are stationed in. Assassin goes around the corner and gets ontop of the building. Assassin takes shots at Presidential candidate as snipers inside are scanning the event area. Cops responding to sniper's building due to man on the roof reports are running around the building. Fucking what? |
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Posted: 7/15/2024 11:15:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mr-Mockingbird: "HISTORIC" Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mr-Mockingbird: Originally Posted By FlashMan-7k: Originally Posted By Torqued: Originally Posted By SkyFive: 20k short of 1,000,000 views!! on a 2.5 day thread. This has to be a Arfcom record. Why isn’t this thread rated EPIC?  Epic just seems wrong. "Landmark" Would be a better classification. "HISTORIC" +1 Better thread category. |
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Posted: 7/15/2024 11:15:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FlashMan-7k: The failure of security has been show to be far worse than we initially knew. Authorities were informed about the shooter some thirty minutes before the shooting. This is the same govt that has/had nearly every mass shooter on some kind of radar too. They aren’t going to anything more than the bare minimum. Unfortunately for us, that means people will die. This entire govt needs to be dissolved. Built again according to the constitution. |
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Posted: 7/15/2024 11:15:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cwm1150: Lol, imagine that. Any new info? I gave up in this thread at page 175. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cwm1150: Originally Posted By WDEagle:
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/174498/Screenshot_2024-07-15_225715_png-3268041.JPG Lol, imagine that. Any new info? I gave up in this thread at page 175. Yeah, the thread moves too fast to keep up with it all. I kinda wish there multiple threads with each dedicated to a specific aspect. Or at least have the OP post daily updates. |
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Posted: 7/15/2024 11:16:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TaskForce: A 20 year old can be a sniper in Ranger Regiment. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TaskForce: Originally Posted By Rheinmetall792: That 20 year old nobody was really hooked up, wasn't he? Infiltration, sniper operations, remote control bombs......most 20 year olds today are lucky to excel at a fastfood job. A 20 year old can be a sniper in Ranger Regiment. The 18-20 year olds represent a huge part of our military workforce. We as a country do a huge disservice to those serving in harms way by looking down on "kids." |
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Posted: 7/15/2024 11:16:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Castrolr1: I'd be hard pressed to believe that... BUT This is either the most incompetent security detail in decades.. OR somebody turned a blind eye to something something.. It's already known that he was noticed and ignored No. It was not an inside job. No one turned a blind eye. I can tell you that with 100% certainty. |
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Posted: 7/15/2024 11:17:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RSG: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GSk1MVYWsAAVLQ-?format=jpg&name=small here's the entire thread https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1813021945958449180.html Stunning new details from @CBSNews on how secret service snipers noticed the shooter before the Trump rally in Butler, PA on Saturday. There were three snipers stationed INSIDE the building the shooter was on, according to a local law enforcement officer with direct knowledge. One of the snipers inside saw Crooks outside looking up at the roof observing the building and then disappeared, according to local law enforcement. Then Crooks came back, sat down and was looking on his phone and at that point one of the snipers took a picture of him. Then Crooks took out a range finder and the sniper radio-ed to the command post. Crooks disappeared again and then came back a third time with a backpack. The snipers called in with information that he had a backpack and said he was walking towards the back of the building. Officers believe that Crooks might have used an air conditioning unit to get on top of the roof. By the time other officers came for backup he had climbed on top of the building and was positioned above and behind the snipers inside the building. Two other officers who heard the sniper’s call came and tried to get onto the roof. State police started rushing to the scene. But that time a secret service sniper had already killed Crooks, according to the law enforcement officer. The officer said also Crooks had an IED in his pocket in addition to the explosive materials in his car. Questions remain about HOW this was possible that several law enforcement officers had eyes on the shooter before and reported his behavior... yet this still happened. |
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Posted: 7/15/2024 11:17:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FlashMan-7k: It had better be made up. Given how the timeline is shaping up, it could fit. Seriously though that just sounds too far out there even for this .. It can't be true |
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Posted: 7/15/2024 11:17:17 PM EDT
[Last Edit: RLR350]
[#15]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Riply21: watch closer at the second half of the video tail end of the detail turns to work the crowd black woman with 72 pounds of hair. I rewatched it. I see who you’re talking about. If she is secret service and not site security, she wasn’t on his detail. Earlier, prior to that clip, when the President walked in the back hallway with his detail, that lady was already on a rope line ahead of them inside the arena. She has no indicator of being armed. The others do. Regardless, the President’s detail was obviously all male tonight. ETA: She was already here taking pictures before Trump walks in the back hall. That’s her holding the red cell phone.  Attached FileAnd then is a few feet behind Trump’s detail as he enters the arena. I suspect she is site security, but I guess it doesn’t really matter. She wasn’t on his detail.  Attached File |
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Posted: 7/15/2024 11:17:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Riply21: watch closer at the second half of the video tail end of the detail turns to work the crowd black woman with 72 pounds of hair. That's where the Uzi is |
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Posted: 7/15/2024 11:17:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 9D1Alpha: This shit was coordinated at least on one side if not two ...fed/local Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 9D1Alpha: Originally Posted By CouncilOfDave: Originally Posted By RarestRX: Originally Posted By Bigger_Hammer: He had elite NINJA training Bigger_Hammer I was firmly on the "This is just .Gov incompetence." side, but now this kid is walking around with a fucking ladder and a rifle case? JFC. This shit was coordinated at least on one side if not two ...fed/local I see that Ree Tardy Oswald has already made the rounds... You've probably already seen this then, but if not, I found it amusing:
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Posted: 7/15/2024 11:18:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TaskForce: I think they're desperate. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TaskForce: Originally Posted By BRS1912: Huh, because when you look at Trumps right fingers after he touched his ear, they have blood on them, which is when he realized oh shit and went down. Frauds and traitors, the whole lot of them. I think they're desperate. I read an interesting book about the assassination of Kennedy. It wasn't about who did it or such, it was more about the left's reaction. How they went from being more old school progressive to being the new left and outright socialist/communist because they utterly lost their minds. We may be living through something like that right now. Pay attention to the details. They may come in handy later. |
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Posted: 7/15/2024 11:18:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By xviperx420: No. It was not an inside job. No one turned a blind eye. I can tell you that with 100% certainty. |
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Posted: 7/15/2024 11:18:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SkyFive: 20k short of 1,000,000 views!! on a 2.5 day thread. This has to be a Arfcom record. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SkyFive: Originally Posted By wormgod: Page 200 1 mil by midnight central. |
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Posted: 7/15/2024 11:18:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By StretchMaK: I just keep asking, would that guy have gotten that close to biden with a gun? I say no freaking way he would have. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By StretchMaK: Originally Posted By Castrolr1: Originally Posted By xviperx420: Originally Posted By BRS1912: Originally Posted By 50cal: All the "inside job" are kind of laughable. For a job with the far reaching implications that this would have had and the powers that be pick a goof ball and have him use a red dot instead of a scope with some magnification. Yeah, top tier talent on that job. Is it though? Inside job can mean many things. How do you explain that horrible SS stuff? Presidents get 100 percent SS attention. Period. To leave that up to chance or babies that couldn't stand the heat...yeah no. Something smells. It was not an inside job. Stop. I'd be hard pressed to believe that... BUT This is either the most incompetent security detail in decades.. OR somebody turned a blind eye to something something.. It's already known that he was noticed and ignored I just keep asking, would that guy have gotten that close to biden with a gun? I say no freaking way he would have. And yet here we are. It. Was. Not. An. Inside. Job. For fucks sake people. |
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Posted: 7/15/2024 11:19:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TaskForce: I don't believe him. Me neither. I'm just providing the info he requested. |
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Posted: 7/15/2024 11:19:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FlashMan-7k: I read an interesting book about the assassination of Kennedy. It wasn't about who did it or such, it was more about the left's reaction. How they went from being more old school progressive to being the new left and outright socialist/communist because they utterly lost their minds. We may be living through something like that right now. Pay attention to the details. They may come in handy later. Oo that's interesting. And probably accurate. |
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Posted: 7/15/2024 11:19:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LordEC911: Probably. This is the stupidest B-plot movie idea ever. Assassin gets spotted by snipers scoping out the building they are stationed in. Assassin goes around the corner and gets ontop of the building. Assassin takes shots at Presidential candidate as snipers inside are scanning the event area. Cops responding to sniper's building due to man on the roof reports are running around the building. what? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LordEC911: Originally Posted By RainierV: Originally Posted By RSG:
This is just insane. Are they instructed not to leave their positions or something? Guy whips out a range-finder and all they can do is radio command??? Probably. This is the stupidest B-plot movie idea ever. Assassin gets spotted by snipers scoping out the building they are stationed in. Assassin goes around the corner and gets ontop of the building. Assassin takes shots at Presidential candidate as snipers inside are scanning the event area. Cops responding to sniper's building due to man on the roof reports are running around the building. what? Brought to you by Didn't Earn It bureaucrats and government functionaries! |
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Posted: 7/15/2024 11:20:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RSG: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GSk1MVYWsAAVLQ-?format=jpg&name=small LOL. Who's to say he wasn't waiting for the ladder to be placed into position and his rifle to be handed to him at this point? JFC - How can you honestly trust ANYONE in |
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CT, USA
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Posted: 7/15/2024 11:20:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chokey: here's the entire thread https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1813021945958449180.html Stunning new details from @CBSNews on how secret service snipers noticed the shooter before the Trump rally in Butler, PA on Saturday. There were three snipers stationed INSIDE the building the shooter was on, according to a local law enforcement officer with direct knowledge. One of the snipers inside saw Crooks outside looking up at the roof observing the building and then disappeared, according to local law enforcement. Then Crooks came back, sat down and was looking on his phone and at that point one of the snipers took a picture of him. Then Crooks took out a range finder and the sniper radio-ed to the command post. Crooks disappeared again and then came back a third time with a backpack. The snipers called in with information that he had a backpack and said he was walking towards the back of the building. Officers believe that Crooks might have used an air conditioning unit to get on top of the roof. By the time other officers came for backup he had climbed on top of the building and was positioned above and behind the snipers inside the building. Two other officers who heard the sniper’s call came and tried to get onto the roof. State police started rushing to the scene. But that time a secret service sniper had already killed Crooks, according to the law enforcement officer. The officer said also Crooks had an IED in his pocket in addition to the explosive materials in his car. Questions remain about HOW this was possible that several law enforcement officers had eyes on the shooter before and reported his behavior... yet this still happened. what the fuck |
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Posted: 7/15/2024 11:21:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ranging-by-zipcode: That has to be made up Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ranging-by-zipcode: Originally Posted By RSG: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GSk1MVYWsAAVLQ-?format=jpg&name=small That has to be made up She’s a CBS News correspondent. Here’s the full thread.  Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 7/15/2024 11:21:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stone-age: Secret service tells the cops it is their responsibility to "secure" the roof for this candidate. Cops have probably done lots and lots of these events with nothing more than some trespassers to deal with. Local cops decide it is too hot on the roof so they will "secure" the building from the inside in the AC instead of getting cooked to death on the roof, no surprise. Conclusion-Inside job. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stone-age: Originally Posted By xviperx420: Originally Posted By BRS1912: Originally Posted By 50cal: All the "inside job" are kind of laughable. For a job with the far reaching implications that this would have had and the powers that be pick a goof ball and have him use a red dot instead of a scope with some magnification. Yeah, top tier talent on that job. Is it though? Inside job can mean many things. How do you explain that horrible SS stuff? Presidents get 100 percent SS attention. Period. To leave that up to chance or babies that couldn't stand the heat...yeah no. Something smells. It was not an inside job. Stop. Secret service tells the cops it is their responsibility to "secure" the roof for this candidate. Cops have probably done lots and lots of these events with nothing more than some trespassers to deal with. Local cops decide it is too hot on the roof so they will "secure" the building from the inside in the AC instead of getting cooked to death on the roof, no surprise. Conclusion-Inside job. Your role has been changed a non speaking one. Stop posting retarded shit. |
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Posted: 7/15/2024 11:21:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RSG: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GSk1MVYWsAAVLQ-?format=jpg&name=small Ok wtf. |
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Posted: 7/15/2024 11:21:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ranging-by-zipcode: Seriously though that just sounds too far out there even for this .. It can't be true Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ranging-by-zipcode: Originally Posted By FlashMan-7k: It had better be made up. Given how the timeline is shaping up, it could fit. Seriously though that just sounds too far out there even for this .. It can't be true The flipside of don't believe it just because it fits the facts is ... Don't disbelieve it because it's so abnormal. File it away and see what comes of it. Who would have thought we'd know the stuff we do right now? Here we are 4+ years into biden clownworld and we STILL have normalcy bias. |
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Posted: 7/15/2024 11:22:23 PM EDT
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Oof.
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Posted: 7/15/2024 11:22:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By xviperx420: No. It was not an inside job. No one turned a blind eye. I can tell you that with 100% certainty. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By xviperx420: Originally Posted By Castrolr1: I'd be hard pressed to believe that... BUT This is either the most incompetent security detail in decades.. OR somebody turned a blind eye to something something.. It's already known that he was noticed and ignored No. It was not an inside job. No one turned a blind eye. I can tell you that with 100% certainty. All the indications I'm seeing are emblematic of a lack of resources and poor execution (which also may be due to lack of resources). My question mark is whether the protection plan itself was deficient, or if the plan had deficiencies and was poorly executed due to manpower issues. The White House and USSS is saying they had sufficient resources. So, they are either lying or the plan was deficient and poorly executed. |
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Posted: 7/15/2024 11:22:49 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Norsk]
[#33]
Brain dump for those catching up - others please correct any old info
-After shooter was on the roof and noticed by civilians a cop gained a foothold on the roof, but lost his balance and fell after the shooter pointed his rifle his way. Confirmed by police. This part is not on video -Logically the rooftop slope kept the shooter out of the LOS of SS counter snipers until he crested the center of the roof, as all these buildings/structures appear to be about the same height. - Snipers were apparently INSIDE the building he climbed onto. -Rifle appears to be an AR, one news outlet reported it as an AR556, a Ruger. Not that it really matters. -Optic appears to be something with an aimpoint micro-sized footprint. In all likelihood a non-magnified red dot. -a doppelganger of the shooter posted content including a video saying "you got the wrong guy" - There's video on a college campus of a lookalike of the shooter screaming "slash republican throats" when in the proximity of something like a campus Republicans table. We don't know if this was him - Still no info on the ladder. Where it came from, video of it being placed, etc. -Shooter was downed by a SS sniper at 488 yards according to Erik Prince -Total elapsed time by my count from first shot report to final suppressed report from the SS was 16 seconds. -Rifle belonged to shooters dad |
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Posted: 7/15/2024 11:23:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TaskForce: Oo that's interesting. And probably accurate. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TaskForce: Originally Posted By FlashMan-7k: I read an interesting book about the assassination of Kennedy. It wasn't about who did it or such, it was more about the left's reaction. How they went from being more old school progressive to being the new left and outright socialist/communist because they utterly lost their minds. We may be living through something like that right now. Pay attention to the details. They may come in handy later. Oo that's interesting. And probably accurate. JFK's wife pretty much made up the myth of camelot right there on the spot because she didn't want his death to be in reality what it was. If I can find the name of the book again I'll post it. It was fascinating. |
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Posted: 7/15/2024 11:24:41 PM EDT
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Part of the Nuremberg level Treason investigation must be explaining why the Left's chosen assassin was featured in a Blackrock commercial not long ago....
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Posted: 7/15/2024 11:24:44 PM EDT
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They need to check the local LE's and USSS voter registration at this point .
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 7/15/2024 11:25:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: LordEC911]
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FlashMan-7k: The flipside of don't believe it just because it fits the facts is ... Don't disbelieve it because it's so abnormal. File it away and see what comes of it. Who would have thought we'd know the stuff we do right now? Here we are 4+ years into biden clownworld and we STILL have normalcy bias. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FlashMan-7k: Originally Posted By ranging-by-zipcode: Originally Posted By FlashMan-7k: It had better be made up. Given how the timeline is shaping up, it could fit. Seriously though that just sounds too far out there even for this .. It can't be true The flipside of don't believe it just because it fits the facts is ... Don't disbelieve it because it's so abnormal. File it away and see what comes of it. Who would have thought we'd know the stuff we do right now? Here we are 4+ years into biden clownworld and we STILL have normalcy bias. May 28, 2016. Harambe Alternate Universe theory. or April 29, 2016. LHC short-circuit causing a shutdown due to a weasel. |
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Posted: 7/15/2024 11:26:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 9D1Alpha: They need to check the local LE's and USSS voter registration at this point . Do they record when they are switched from one party to another? |
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Posted: 7/15/2024 11:27:01 PM EDT
[#39]
I don’t see how SS cleared Trump to go out on the stage with an area that was unprotected.
I’d think Sniper #1 would have known he couldn’t see what was behind the peaks of those buildings. The building behind the shooters building looks even taller than the shooters so even harder to cover from sniper #1’s location. Even if swat was bitching about heat they should have been forced to do their job for the time Trump spoke. |
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Posted: 7/15/2024 11:27:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By xviperx420: And yet here we are. It. Was. Not. An. Inside. Job. For fucks sake people. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By xviperx420: Originally Posted By StretchMaK: Originally Posted By Castrolr1: Originally Posted By xviperx420: Originally Posted By BRS1912: Originally Posted By 50cal: All the "inside job" are kind of laughable. For a job with the far reaching implications that this would have had and the powers that be pick a goof ball and have him use a red dot instead of a scope with some magnification. Yeah, top tier talent on that job. Is it though? Inside job can mean many things. How do you explain that horrible SS stuff? Presidents get 100 percent SS attention. Period. To leave that up to chance or babies that couldn't stand the heat...yeah no. Something smells. It was not an inside job. Stop. I'd be hard pressed to believe that... BUT This is either the most incompetent security detail in decades.. OR somebody turned a blind eye to something something.. It's already known that he was noticed and ignored I just keep asking, would that guy have gotten that close to biden with a gun? I say no freaking way he would have. And yet here we are. It. Was. Not. An. Inside. Job. For fucks sake people. Anyone listening to this plant is an idiot. |
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Posted: 7/15/2024 11:29:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NH556: I assume you were one of the snipers inside the building then? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NH556: Originally Posted By xviperx420: No. It was not an inside job. No one turned a blind eye. I can tell you that with 100% certainty. No. Lets just say I'm more familiar with this shit than I want to be. Once the dust settles, I'll post my piece. |
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Posted: 7/15/2024 11:29:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chokey: here's the entire thread https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1813021945958449180.html Stunning new details from @CBSNews on how secret service snipers noticed the shooter before the Trump rally in Butler, PA on Saturday. There were three snipers stationed INSIDE the building the shooter was on, according to a local law enforcement officer with direct knowledge. One of the snipers inside saw Crooks outside looking up at the roof observing the building and then disappeared, according to local law enforcement. Then Crooks came back, sat down and was looking on his phone and at that point one of the snipers took a picture of him. Then Crooks took out a range finder and the sniper radio-ed to the command post. Crooks disappeared again and then came back a third time with a backpack. The snipers called in with information that he had a backpack and said he was walking towards the back of the building. Officers believe that Crooks might have used an air conditioning unit to get on top of the roof. By the time other officers came for backup he had climbed on top of the building and was positioned above and behind the snipers inside the building. Two other officers who heard the sniper’s call came and tried to get onto the roof. State police started rushing to the scene. But that time a secret service sniper had already killed Crooks, according to the law enforcement officer. The officer said also Crooks had an IED in his pocket in addition to the explosive materials in his car. Questions remain about HOW this was possible that several law enforcement officers had eyes on the shooter before and reported his behavior... yet this still happened. How could it happen? Orders are orders. Trump was supposed to be removed from the ticket. |
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Posted: 7/15/2024 11:29:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By APPARITION: I don't see how SS cleared Trump to go out on the stage with an area that was unprotected. I'd think Sniper #1 would have known he couldn't see what was behind the peaks of those buildings. The building behind the shooters building looks even taller than the shooters so even harder to cover from sniper #1's location. Even if swat was bitching about heat they should have been forced to do their job for the time Trump spoke. |
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Posted: 7/15/2024 11:29:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RSG:
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Posted: 7/15/2024 11:30:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Norsk: Brain dump for those catching up - others please correct any old info -After shooter was on the roof and noticed by civilians a cop gained a foothold on the roof, but lost his balance and fell after the shooter pointed his rifle his way. Confirmed by police. This part is not on video -Logically the rooftop slope kept the shooter out of the LOS of SS counter snipers until he crested the center of the roof, as all these buildings/structures appear to be about the same height. -Rifle appears to be an AR, one news outlet reported it as an AR556, a Ruger. Not that it really matters. -Optic appears to be somewith with an aimpoint micro-sized footprint. In all likelihood a non-magnified red dot. -a doppelganger of the shooter posted content including a video saying "you got the wrong guy" - There's video on a college campus of a lookalike of the shooter screaming "slash republican throats" when in the proximity of something like a campus Republicans table. We don't know if this was him - Still no info on the ladder. Where it came from, video of it being placed, etc. -Shooter was downed by a SS sniper at 488 yards according to Erik Prince -Total elapsed time by my count from first shot report to final suppressed report from the SS was 16 seconds. -Rifle belonged to shooters dad @Norsk DPMS15 is the model I saw in a report. Nothing on the sights or the optic, or if it even had an optic. the doppleganger was at a twitter account called ... operating off of memory here... "jewgazing" or something like that. The screamer at the college campus is as you said, unconfirmed. We do not know if the shooter even used the ladder and we don't even know if he had to to gain access to the roof, there are multiple spots around the building that look like you could have had access to the roof from them. The group of snipers over trump's right shoulder appear to have had sightline blocked by a tree. The group of snipers over trump's left shoulder appear to have had sightline and MAYBE they were the ones that made the shot, one of them was seen pocketing a brass. We think but have not confirmed that I have seen that there may have been snipers on a roof at ~480-500 yards away to trump's left just barely forwards quadrant. Also, there was a watertower that SHOULD have had security assets on it. 
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Posted: 7/15/2024 11:30:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RainierV: All the indications I'm seeing are emblematic of a lack of resources and poor execution (which also may be due to lack of resources). My question mark is whether the protection plan itself was deficient, or if the plan had deficiencies and was poorly executed due to manpower issues. The White House and USSS is saying they had sufficient resources. So, they are either lying or the plan was deficient and poorly executed. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RainierV: Originally Posted By xviperx420: Originally Posted By Castrolr1: I'd be hard pressed to believe that... BUT This is either the most incompetent security detail in decades.. OR somebody turned a blind eye to something something.. It's already known that he was noticed and ignored No. It was not an inside job. No one turned a blind eye. I can tell you that with 100% certainty. All the indications I'm seeing are emblematic of a lack of resources and poor execution (which also may be due to lack of resources). My question mark is whether the protection plan itself was deficient, or if the plan had deficiencies and was poorly executed due to manpower issues. The White House and USSS is saying they had sufficient resources. So, they are either lying or the plan was deficient and poorly executed. Get all three. |
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Posted: 7/15/2024 11:30:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WUPHF: This keeps getting worse. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WUPHF: Originally Posted By RSG:
This keeps getting worse. Uvalde round 2. Police do more harm then good, they ate worthless and should be defunded. |
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Posted: 7/15/2024 11:31:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LordEC911: May 28, 2016. Harambe Alternate Universe theory. or April 29, 2016. LHC short-circuit causing a shutdown due to a weasel. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LordEC911: Originally Posted By FlashMan-7k: Originally Posted By ranging-by-zipcode: Originally Posted By FlashMan-7k: It had better be made up. Given how the timeline is shaping up, it could fit. Seriously though that just sounds too far out there even for this .. It can't be true The flipside of don't believe it just because it fits the facts is ... Don't disbelieve it because it's so abnormal. File it away and see what comes of it. Who would have thought we'd know the stuff we do right now? Here we are 4+ years into biden clownworld and we STILL have normalcy bias. May 28, 2016. Harambe Alternate Universe theory. or April 29, 2016. LHC short-circuit causing a shutdown due to a weasel. Obama's election, IMO. Our first admitted out and out marxist who was not the son of two american parents at the time of his birth. |
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Posted: 7/15/2024 11:31:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Wineraner: I see that Ree Tardy Oswald has already made the rounds... You've probably already seen this then, but if not, I found it amusing:
 I had not.Picked that up in a YouTube comment, and it seemed to fit that walking chromosomal abnormality perfectly, so I'm keeping it. Everything this loser did should have caused an insta-fail... but for whatever reason, it didn't. He certainly didn't roll Luck 10 in life, so I got nothing. |
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Posted: 7/15/2024 11:31:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tree-hugger: Anyone listening to this plant is an idiot. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tree-hugger: Originally Posted By xviperx420: Originally Posted By StretchMaK: Originally Posted By Castrolr1: Originally Posted By xviperx420: Originally Posted By BRS1912: Originally Posted By 50cal: All the "inside job" are kind of laughable. For a job with the far reaching implications that this would have had and the powers that be pick a goof ball and have him use a red dot instead of a scope with some magnification. Yeah, top tier talent on that job. Is it though? Inside job can mean many things. How do you explain that horrible SS stuff? Presidents get 100 percent SS attention. Period. To leave that up to chance or babies that couldn't stand the heat...yeah no. Something smells. It was not an inside job. Stop. I'd be hard pressed to believe that... BUT This is either the most incompetent security detail in decades.. OR somebody turned a blind eye to something something.. It's already known that he was noticed and ignored I just keep asking, would that guy have gotten that close to biden with a gun? I say no freaking way he would have. And yet here we are. It. Was. Not. An. Inside. Job. For fucks sake people. Anyone listening to this plant is an idiot. Explain how I'm a plant please. I'll wait. |
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