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Posted: 11/29/2019 1:54:24 PM EDT
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Zucker got the message. |
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Posted: 11/29/2019 1:57:58 PM EDT
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They shot at the king. They missed.
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Posted: 11/29/2019 2:05:59 PM EDT
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The dims lose control of the narrative if it goes to the Senate, plain and simple. In the senate, the GOP will be able to call actual witnesses. What they have to say will be uncomfortable, at best, for the dims. They also won't be stifled by Schiff if they attempt to ask the wrong question of a witness. |
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Posted: 11/29/2019 2:11:04 PM EDT
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there was never going to be an impeachment....ever..
you have to hand it over to senate Republicans for the trial, that was never going to be a conviction. The dipshits were hoping to make such a strong case that the Republicans would look bad by not convicting...but they drank to much of the special kool-aid and managed to gaslight themselves before having everyone else convinced. they won't even send articles of impeachment to the senate. The best they can do is censure and essentially hold the "inquiry" open forever. they look like feckless idiots either way but the censure route doesn't give senate republicans a mandate to investigate further. that's the political reality, its inevitable and inescapable..they have crossed the event horizon and no matter how they struggle they can't prevent it. |
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Posted: 11/29/2019 2:11:31 PM EDT
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What do you think the next one might be? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:  Senators challenge Trump on military pardons |
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Posted: 11/29/2019 2:17:38 PM EDT
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there was never going to be an impeachment....ever.. you have to hand it over to senate Republicans for the trial, that was never going to be a conviction. The dipshits were hoping to make such a strong case that the Republicans would look bad by not convicting...but they drank to much of the special kool-aid and managed to gaslight themselves before having everyone else convinced. they won't even send articles of impeachment to the senate. The best they can do is censure and essentially hold the "inquiry" open forever. they look like feckless idiots either way but the censure route doesn't give senate republicans a mandate to investigate further. that's the political reality, its inevitable and inescapable..they have crossed the event horizon and no matter how they struggle they can't prevent it. Pelosi knew not to cross it. She’s not stupid. Evil yes. But not stupid. |
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Posted: 11/29/2019 2:19:35 PM EDT
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Lying news media, everyone of them.
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Posted: 11/29/2019 2:22:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Their delusion painted them into a corner they can't escape from. I like your event horizon, they crossed it. No going back now. They are truly inescapably fucked. Pelosi knew not to cross it. She's not stupid. Evil yes. But not stupid. |
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Posted: 11/29/2019 2:32:32 PM EDT
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Honestly I think they all realized that Trump thrives on open hostility from his enemies. It's like he drinks it and it makes him stronger. For countering the rabid Left, he’s Not the hero that some people want, but instead the hero that America needs... |
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Posted: 11/29/2019 2:39:22 PM EDT
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It was a thin and flimsy political limb to start with. They walked out as far as they could and now it's breaking.
Against all odds they were hoping 'something' would stick and they could hang an impeachment on President Trump he'd have to carry into the 2020 reelection. They knew from the outset the chances for getting the Senate to convict would be impossible. As soon as President Trump was sworn in they began planning to 'resist' the changes he was going to bring. They could not accept an 'outsider' disrupting their well oiled graft & corruption machine. Traitors is maybe too strong. Sedition describes their efforts exactly. The Democrats in D.C. have done terrible harm to our republic. What compounds the harm is that none of them will be brought to justice or face the appropriate punishments for their crimes. |
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Posted: 11/29/2019 2:47:00 PM EDT
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I wonder if CNN would have an audience if they weren’t playing on a loop in airports. The Big Lie ...repeat it until it replaces the truth. The lessons of Bernay & Goebbels were incorporated into the MSM editorial boards. |
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Posted: 11/29/2019 2:48:48 PM EDT
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It was a thin and flimsy political limb to start with. They walked out as far as they could and now it's breaking. Against all odds they were hoping 'something' would stick and they could hang an impeachment on President Trump he'd have to carry into the 2020 reelection. They knew from the outset the chances for getting the Senate to convict would be impossible. As soon as President Trump was sworn in they began planning to 'resist' the changes he was going to bring. They could not accept an 'outsider' disrupting their well oiled graft & corruption machine. Traitors is maybe too strong. Sedition describes their efforts exactly. The Democrats in D.C. have done terrible harm to our republic. What compounds the harm is that none of them will be brought to justice or face the appropriate punishments for their crimes. That destroyed their plan, yet they continued to follow their plan. |
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Posted: 11/29/2019 2:52:28 PM EDT
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Probably had a secret strategy meeting with the dims. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Zucker got the message. |
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Posted: 11/29/2019 2:58:24 PM EDT
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Quote History"I am President of the United States. Power of pardon belongs to me while I hold this office. I chose
to use it for these men. It is none of the Department of Justice's concern that I did it. Quite frankly, it isn't Congress's concern either." |
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Posted: 11/29/2019 3:03:44 PM EDT
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"I am President of the United States. Power of pardon belongs to me while I hold this office. I chose to use it for these men. It is none of the Department of Justice's concern that I did it. Quite frankly, it isn't Congress's concern either." Quote HistoryQuoted:
to use it for these men. It is none of the Department of Justice's concern that I did it. Quite frankly, it isn't Congress's concern either." |
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Posted: 11/29/2019 3:10:49 PM EDT
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They know ifhat impeachment is a wasted effort and will be considered a loss so they are trying to turn it into a "victory" and will claim
"Look how kind and benevolent we are, we could have continued to let the country be torn apart by Trump but our actions show we really are the party of (fill in the blank)." |
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Posted: 11/29/2019 3:19:13 PM EDT
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They’ve got to let their zombies down easy or the overspray from their blown ass gaskets may
land on someone important like Madam |
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Posted: 11/29/2019 3:21:55 PM EDT
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"Backing off" is the lefts way of admitting they were wrong and they fucked up without actually admitting that they were wrong.
Thus CNN and the rest of the left agenda will just let the story fade into nothing. |
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Posted: 11/29/2019 3:22:00 PM EDT
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The cabal of the intellectually arrogant. He walks among them. Our betters. Bringing common folk the coup for better Progressive government. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Zucker got the message. |
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Posted: 11/29/2019 3:34:12 PM EDT
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But co-equal branch of government. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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to use it for these men. It is none of the Department of Justice's concern that I did it. Quite frankly, it isn't Congress's concern either." |
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Posted: 11/29/2019 3:41:54 PM EDT
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This impeachment farce in the Intelligence Committee is only a probe. If they had found anything substantial their information would have been sent over to the Judiciary Committee. Since they didn't, they'll hold a censure vote, which will be mostly party line.
If Democrats take a majority in the Senate in the next election, it will come back then. Elsewise, we're on to the next manufactured crisis. False sexual harassment charges failed. Subverting the Electoral College failed. Calling for the 25th Amendment to be invoked failed. Party line vote to stop the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act of 2017 failed. Resistance at all levels of government failed. Riots in the streets failed. Opposing the Kavanaugh nomination failed. Now, impeachment is failing. On to a censure vote, followed by...??? |
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Posted: 11/29/2019 3:46:08 PM EDT
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All I want to know is if Senator Graham will EVER hold a fucking hearing!!?? All he does is talk, talk and...…………….talk. 
He said on 12-11 after this supposed IG report is issued...……..color me skeptical.  |
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Posted: 11/29/2019 3:46:33 PM EDT
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Bang bang bang
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Posted: 11/29/2019 3:46:53 PM EDT
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Out in the sticks. Limited internet.
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Posted: 11/29/2019 3:47:49 PM EDT
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He's busy fixing our judiciary. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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All I want to know is if Senator Graham will EVER hold a fucking hearing!!?? All he does is talk, talk and...…………….talk.
He said on 12-11 after this supposed IG report is issued...……..color me skeptical. |
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Posted: 11/29/2019 3:52:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryCatch this idiocy, from Leahey and Whitehead:
“The President’s pardon powers are virtually absolute. That is precisely why safeguards must be in place to ensure that they are wielded judiciously – institutional safeguards like your office, which exists to ensure that the President’s pardon powers are exercised fairly and in the interests of justice,” Translation: Trump’s Constitutional powers need reigning in... |
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Posted: 11/29/2019 3:56:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They never thought trump would declassify and release the transcript less than 48 hours of “whistleblower” accusation. That destroyed their plan, yet they continued to follow their plan. Their hatred or fear of President Trump has been their undoing. They've forsaken a legislative agenda, sacrificed political capitol and abandoned our nation to pursue an unfounded, irrational campaign to unseat President Trump. Instead of accepting their loss and moving on to build some kind of stable political footings they chose to adopt a 'far left' 'radical' 'socialist' 'communist' confrontational, divisive and authoritarian political face. That face has done irreparable harm to their political party, irreparable harm to our nation. Yet they persist with fools like Nadler and Schiff. Without question, Pelosi lost control and acquiesced to false polling data, allowing a radical wing to foment discord and disrupt political progress. The Democrats are too narcissistic to be ashamed of what they've done. And who among them was on the 'ramparts' demanding impeachment? None other that BSC Maxine Waters ...now, the intellectual leader and firebrand of the Democratic party in America. Jeez, what a mess. |
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Posted: 11/29/2019 3:59:10 PM EDT
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But co-equal branch of government. Congress, consisting of both the House and Senate May be co-equal not not one chamber, and certainly not two Senators acting independently of the Senate or Congress as a whole. |
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Posted: 11/29/2019 4:03:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Catch this idiocy, from Leahey and Whitehead: "The President's pardon powers are virtually absolute. That is precisely why safeguards must be in place to ensure that they are wielded judiciously institutional safeguards like your office, which exists to ensure that the President's pardon powers are exercised fairly and in the interests of justice," Translation: Trump's Constitutional powers need reigning in... conference, point these dirt bags out, point out how Obama pardoned them even though they were dirt bags, point out that the people and media now crying didn't so much as open their mouth, and then call them un-American. |
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Posted: 11/29/2019 4:06:38 PM EDT
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From CNN:
“The evidence is mounting daily that President Donald Trump may have committed an impeachable offense...” Hahaha... In other words, “... we’ve been at this for a couple of months and, despite best efforts to manufacture evidence, we got nothing, and the public knows it...” |
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Posted: 11/29/2019 4:09:22 PM EDT
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Does Congress have powers of pardon? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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to use it for these men. It is none of the Department of Justice's concern that I did it. Quite frankly, it isn't Congress's concern either." |
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Posted: 11/29/2019 4:22:19 PM EDT
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This impeachment stuff is pure dog & pony BS. Personally I would be curious to see what Stormy Daniels thinks about this precedings.
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Posted: 11/29/2019 4:23:48 PM EDT
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So here they are with their pants at their ankles.
Biden on tape admitting to doing what they are saying PDT did and also incriminating FBHO. Fuck democrats. |
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Posted: 11/29/2019 4:53:15 PM EDT
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From CNN: “The evidence is mounting daily that President Donald Trump may have committed an impeachable offense...” Hahaha... In other words, “... we’ve been at this for a couple of months and, despite best efforts to manufacture evidence, we got nothing, and the public knows it...” Impeachment requires "High crimes and misdemeanors" which is a famously vague standard. This entire charade hinges on that vagueness because they can truthfully state that it's up to congress to decide what is a "high crime and misdemeanor". Now it's backfiring, people are sick of the BS and they are desperate to find a way to continue impugning Trump without pissing off that half of the country that isn't a raving leftist. |
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Posted: 11/29/2019 5:07:02 PM EDT
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Schiff unraveling the Russian conspiracy and got all caught up in it himself.
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Posted: 11/29/2019 5:14:18 PM EDT
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Nadler is gonna be the fall guy. Pelosi doesn't want impeachment in an election year, but she can't stifle the rabid left. She tried to tell her people that months ago but they would have nothing of it. |
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Posted: 11/29/2019 5:14:44 PM EDT
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It lets them make a bunch of accusations without letting the accused actually defend himself.
That’s all they wanted in the first place. |
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Posted: 11/29/2019 5:16:21 PM EDT
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It lets them make a bunch of accusations without letting the accused actually defend himself. That's all they wanted in the first place. It IS the court of public opinion, and it is where they are trying to hang him. |
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Posted: 11/29/2019 5:19:37 PM EDT
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They shot at the king. They missed. |
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Posted: 11/29/2019 5:22:09 PM EDT
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Rush already floated how they will do this. Do not doubt him.
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Posted: 11/29/2019 5:26:15 PM EDT
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Meh, they are just "floating" what has really been in the plan all along. Damn near treasonous! |
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Posted: 11/29/2019 5:30:29 PM EDT
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This impeachment farce in the Intelligence Committee is only a probe. If they had found anything substantial their information would have been sent over to the Judiciary Committee. Since they didn't, they'll hold a censure vote, which will be mostly party line. If Democrats take a majority in the Senate in the next election, it will come back then. Elsewise, we're on to the next manufactured crisis. False sexual harassment charges failed. Subverting the Electoral College failed. Calling for the 25th Amendment to be invoked failed. Party line vote to stop the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act of 2017 failed. Resistance at all levels of government failed. Riots in the streets failed. Opposing the Kavanaugh nomination failed. Now, impeachment is failing. On to a censure vote, followed by...??? |
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Posted: 11/29/2019 5:34:30 PM EDT
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The demos are in deep doo doo on this one.
The true believers (ie the lunatics that believe Trump is the anti-christ) will never forgive them for not proceeding and following through with a full house vote. The number of those loonies in the demo party has grown so much and have gained such a stronghold on the party that even obama cautioned against moving so far to the left and they immediately jumped his shit. If you think after all of this that a demo candidate can move to the center after the nomination like Bill and Hillary clinton and obama did, you aren't paying attention. hillary was vilified for doing it and lost tons of what had previously been rock solid support. ( like what's her name from Thelma and Louise) No one else will be able to pull it off if she couldn't. |
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Posted: 11/29/2019 5:48:38 PM EDT
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Constitutionally, I don't think Congress censuring the President is a thing.
Congress can censure its members because, constitutionally, it has the authority to set its own internal rules and procedures. The key word be "internal". |
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Posted: 11/29/2019 5:50:37 PM EDT
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Yea, no. Congress, consisting of both the House and Senate May be co-equal not not one chamber, and certainly not two Senators acting independently of the Senate or Congress as a whole. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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But co-equal branch of government. Congress, consisting of both the House and Senate May be co-equal not not one chamber, and certainly not two Senators acting independently of the Senate or Congress as a whole. |
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Posted: 11/29/2019 5:56:41 PM EDT
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I don't think they even bother trying too hard to keep these meetings secret. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Zucker got the message. |
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Posted: 11/29/2019 6:00:08 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/29/2019 6:08:08 PM EDT
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Anyone here running an alt libtard account should be promoting pro impeachment as often as they can. Spam their comment sections with pro impeachment sentiment and even call those wanting tonbackmofff as weak compromised. No blinking. |
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Posted: 11/29/2019 6:25:12 PM EDT
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The whole point of impeachment is an election strategy to boost voter turnout among the hard left portion of their base by pandering to the hashtag resistance. But with recent polls showing a very negative view of the whole ordeal among pretty much everyone outside the far left, they're now backing off.
Pandering to the far left is essential to win democratic primaries. But after those primaries are over, you still have a general election to win, which requires appealing to centrists, independents, and center-right voters. It's an odd conundrum the democrats are in. Their base is so far and away to the fringes of leftwing thinking that appealing to the democratic base and appealing to centrists and independents are mutually exclusive endeavors. Even the ideology of what passes for the "far right" isn't all that far right and isn't particularly crazy, so for a republican to appeal to the right does not necessarily require alienating centrists or vice versa. But for a democrat to even meekly appeal to centrists does alienate the left, and the left demands appeasements that do alienate centrists. They're in a dilemma that we don't have. And it's a dilemma that we could manipulate. If they were asked during a debate about their position on 7-year-olds getting transgender transitions, it would screw them over because it forces them to either alienate centrists or the left. Any non-psycho who hears them suggest that you're a bigot for not taking your seven year old to have their hormones chemically altered with puberty blockers and their genitals surgically altered if they say they're a boy/girl will immediately not like them. And if they take the non-psycho answer and say that of course you shouldn't transition your seven year old, the left will regard them as a turncoat and disown them. |
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Posted: 11/29/2019 6:41:51 PM EDT
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It lets them make a bunch of accusations without letting the accused actually defend himself. That’s all they wanted in the first place. I can't help but wonder if pelosi and the old guard dems will use the blowback to try to get rid of the radicals in their own party. |
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