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They are making stuff up now. How accurate are they about 1200 year ago droughts ?
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Let them shrivel up, it's karma for the climate commies. Oh no, there is no water here, Imsuppose we should totally build here and worry about the water later!
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I imagine it is related to the extra water required for bees to start swimming lessons.
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Quoted: Desalinated water is about 200x more expensive than surface water. This is the equivalent of asking why Arizonans don't power their air conditioners by having day laborers ride bicycle generators. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: If only they had a giant body of water next to them and maeans for abundant clean energy by splitting atoms to desalinate it. That might relive their water and power issues all at once. At some point we are going to have to cut California off the Colorado river and force the to do this since inland states don't have that option. Desalinated water is about 200x more expensive than surface water. This is the equivalent of asking why Arizonans don't power their air conditioners by having day laborers ride bicycle generators. If people in Arizona are being told to stop using their air conditioners because there’s not enough power, then the day laborer on bicycle generators is a fair question. Same with CA and desalination plants. Yes, it’s more expensive, but would you rather pay more or be forced to go without? |
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Quoted: If people in Arizona are being told to stop using their air conditioners because there’s not enough power, then the day laborer on bicycle generators is a fair question. Same with CA and desalination plants. Yes, it’s more expensive, but would you rather pay more or be forced to go without? View Quote It's a false binary, before that comes conservation, reuse, etc. Just like Arizonans don't keep their houses at 55°. |
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If only the technology existed to pull water from the ocean and clean it and push it out to people. If only the technology existed to turn poo water into potable drinking water. Maybe one day...
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10 years too late. Those in charge of the water have known for over a decade that SoCal uses more water than they could save/find
It's a known fact that white man settled and built California up during a rare and short wet period. This has been predicted probably for 50+ years. The lakes, the aqua ducts, the purchased water rights in CO are just bandaids on an arterial bleed. |
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Quoted: 10 years ago i was part of a team that was proposing to build 25 combined cycles and piggyback desal plants to each of them up the coast of california. Idiot environmental groups through a fit about a 60' diameter hot brine discharge that sealife always.... swims around. They mothballed that and continued to run out of date power systems and pull from the snowpack up north for water. View Quote 60 foot diameter? ![]() |
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Quoted: Desalinated water is about 200x more expensive than surface water. This is the equivalent of asking why Arizonans don't power their air conditioners by having day laborers ride bicycle generators. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: If only they had a giant body of water next to them and maeans for abundant clean energy by splitting atoms to desalinate it. That might relive their water and power issues all at once. At some point we are going to have to cut California off the Colorado river and force the to do this since inland states don't have that option. Desalinated water is about 200x more expensive than surface water. This is the equivalent of asking why Arizonans don't power their air conditioners by having day laborers ride bicycle generators. It may be possible to live without A/C in AZ's "dry heat" It's definitely not possible to live without water. |
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Quoted: Parlance of our time, I guess I refer to the local highways here as "the" The 51. The 17. The fucking 10. ![]() View Quote Never. Thats for Southern CA and and city folk. North of the Grapevine and East of the Coastal Range, you're lucky to hear Interstate, HWY, etc. We just use the number and everyone knows what you're talking about. 5, 99, 80, 50, 120, 580, 680, 1, 101. No "THE", ever when talking about roads. |
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View Quote First thing that came to mind. |
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Quoted: 200x [zero surface water] is still zero. It may be possible to live without A/C in AZ's "dry heat" It's definitely not possible to live without water. View Quote Surface water has a cost. It's not easy to live in AZ without AC, and no one is suggesting anyone live without water, just lawns. |
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I guess now they will want 49 other states to fix their self inflicted water problem. Cali can drink their own piss. |
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these fucking morons have billions to spend on a train to nowhere but cant budget 3 desalination plants along hundreds of miles of coastline.
and the open border bullshit taking on a huge population that puts undue stress on an already incapable infrastructure with finite resources doesnt help. idiots. |
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Quoted: Desalinated water is about 200x more expensive than surface water. This is the equivalent of asking why Arizonans don't power their air conditioners by having day laborers ride bicycle generators. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: If only they had a giant body of water next to them and maeans for abundant clean energy by splitting atoms to desalinate it. That might relive their water and power issues all at once. At some point we are going to have to cut California off the Colorado river and force the to do this since inland states don't have that option. Desalinated water is about 200x more expensive than surface water. This is the equivalent of asking why Arizonans don't power their air conditioners by having day laborers ride bicycle generators. You have a cite for that? My county gets a chunk of it's water from a desal plant and when it went online there wasn't really any noticeable increase in our water bills. It costs < 0.7 cents to produce a gallon of fresh water at the Carlsbad desal plant according to info at the link. https://www.carlsbaddesal.com/desal-101.html |
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“1200 year drought” is code for “we built all our water infrastructure during an abnormally wet 100 years and now there are a shitload of people and farms here, but we aren’t going to build any dams or desal plants to deal with it so eat shit”
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Quoted: You have a cite for that? My county gets a chunk of it's water from a desal plant and when it went online there wasn't really any noticeable increase in our water bills. It costs < 0.7 cents to produce a gallon of fresh water at the Carlsbad desal plant according to info at the link. https://www.carlsbaddesal.com/desal-101.html View Quote I'll try to look in the morning. ETA: Look here. ![]() |
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Maybe they should have thought about that before they drained Lake Mead a few years back so the Colorado River could reach the Gulf of California.
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Quoted: Quoted: A $2,000 fine per 326,000 gallons of water. ![]() That's not going to stop golf courses from keeping the fairway green. ![]() Holy shit what a joke of a fine. ![]() I'm sure big customers that use that level get a better price than I do as well. |
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At first glance, I read the thread title as China, and thought, "figures". Then I saw "California and had a moment of, Oops" before finishing with, "well, it makes no difference."
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Quoted: Climate change excuse and not gross mismanagement possibly coupled with bad luck? You decide! It must be so easy to have that scape goat in your back pocket at all times. Powerful hurricane? Fossil fuels bad Cold in the south? Fossil fuels bad! Warm in the north? Fossil fuels bad!! Fires? Fossil fuels bad!!! Water shortage? FOSSIL FUELS BAD!!!! View Quote That's why they came up with "climate change". Hard to blame global cooling when it's hot, or global warming when it's cold. They had 40+ years where all of their predictions were extremely wrong. Now no matter what happens, CLIMATE CHANGE! Even heart attacks. |
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This is due to the State's abject failure to provide for water storage. It has nothing to do with use or over use.
When we last went thru this crap, grey water recovery and use was actually illegal and still is. That is, you could not use your laundry rinse water or shower drain water for your lawn. |
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What should we have built? A six billion dollar train to nowhere or a desalination plant?
Mmm. Tough decision. |
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Kicking out all the illegals would fix a shitload of problems basically over night,
Californias drought, mostly fixed by removing millions instantly Energy costs / rolling blackouts, dropped / fixed by removing millions of users. Gas prices, dropped by removing millions of users. Housing, 10 million homes, and apartments suddenly empty State / federal budgets saving billions instantly from removing millions off benefits Food costs, drop, millions of eaters gone. Medical costs, cut biggly / waiting times shorter, as millions who don’t pay med bills gone / not wasting resources Crime / identity theft / violent crime / drunk driving, drop about 25% instantly, less prisoners to feed / care for saving billions. List goes on and on. |
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Droughts are caused by nature, water shortages are caused by politicians.
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Quoted: Kicking out all the illegals would fix a shitload of problems basically over night, Californias drought, mostly fixed by removing millions instantly Energy costs / rolling blackouts, dropped / fixed by removing millions of users. Gas prices, dropped by removing millions of users. Housing, 10 million homes, and apartments suddenly empty State / federal budgets saving billions instantly from removing millions off benefits Food costs, drop, millions of eaters gone. Medical costs, cut biggly / waiting times shorter, as millions who don’t pay med bills gone / not wasting resources Crime / identity theft / violent crime / drunk driving, drop about 25% instantly, less prisoners to feed / care for saving billions. List goes on and on. View Quote But but but who would cut the lawns clean the hotels do all those jobs Americans won't do...... You know come to think of it I don't hear that phrase much anymore. ![]() |
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Let's build massive cities in areas that don't naturally support human life (or even grass, without constant watering)
What could go wrong. |
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Quoted: these fucking morons have billions to spend on a train to nowhere but cant budget 3 desalination plants along hundreds of miles of coastline. and the open border bullshit taking on a huge population that puts undue stress on an already incapable infrastructure with finite resources doesnt help. idiots. View Quote ![]() |
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