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Posted: 1/9/2018 10:09:48 AM EDT
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Build the wall first. Send the illegals back. Let them apply for legal immigration like millions before them. No tradeoffs. No shortcut deals. |
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Posted: 1/9/2018 10:10:04 AM EDT
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Yes. Let them stay to build the wall. |
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Posted: 1/9/2018 10:10:19 AM EDT
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What would the point of building the wall be if you let a million illegals stay? |
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Posted: 1/9/2018 10:10:38 AM EDT
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No I never heard during the campaign that we had to grant amnesty to a few million people in order to build the wall |
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Posted: 1/9/2018 10:11:57 AM EDT
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Wall must be 100% complete before any DACA discussion. The wall has been funded in the past yet all that money and it was not completed.
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Posted: 1/9/2018 10:12:47 AM EDT
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Yes, but wall first. It is probably the only way yo get the wall built Imagine the left refuses to approve the wall. Trump can tweet that the left does not want DACA to stay in effect. the left would be standing in the spotlight with no where to go but to approve the wall. |
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Posted: 1/9/2018 10:12:59 AM EDT
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I have to agree. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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No I never heard during the campaign that we had to grant amnesty to a few million people in order to build the wall then make more deals later to get the DACA's out |
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Posted: 1/9/2018 10:13:52 AM EDT
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2-3% we can manage The other 97% will sink this nation. They have to go back. Don't get me wrong I'd prefer to push them all into the sea at bayonet point. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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They are of breeding age, they'll have 3-4 kids each and they all will vote democrat and most will end up on social services. The other 97% will sink this nation. They have to go back. Don't get me wrong I'd prefer to push them all into the sea at bayonet point. 
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Posted: 1/9/2018 10:14:54 AM EDT
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You cannot reason with the democrats. Everything they do is bad.
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Posted: 1/9/2018 10:29:38 AM EDT
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Apparently the WH, Republicans, and Dems are meeting today to discuss a deal for DACA to pass a spending bill and get the Wall built. Would granting legal status to 800k illegals be the downfall of Trump? Should republicans be dealing with Dems after voters handed Repubs all the power? The people who thumb their nose at or laws, and want to be anything other than Americans? You have to go back. If that's the deal we make yup get the wall built, that's more than fine by me. |
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Posted: 1/9/2018 10:31:34 AM EDT
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The wall will never happen if DACA happens first.
Required steps, in order: 1. Pop quiz - citizenship test, in English. Fail = deport. Pass =DACA temporary continuation. 2. Verify ID, background checks. That shit was rubber stamped the first time, so it needs to be done for real. Any problems with ID, criminal background, or not being productive =deport. 3. Deport their illegal parents. 4. Build wall. 5. Legal status as permanent non-citizen resident. They can then work on citizenship like any legal immigrant. Anyone who does not get citizenship within 10 years loses resident status and is deported. |
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Posted: 1/9/2018 10:31:35 AM EDT
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If that's what it takes for the wall to actually be funded and built sure.
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Posted: 1/9/2018 10:36:12 AM EDT
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Sure, with a few conditions; - They can never collect public assistance - They can't have a criminal record or gang affiliations - They must be fluent in English - No chain migration, bringing in more family members, or allowing the rest of their families to stay - Their legal permanent residence status can never be turned into citizenship - They don't get their legal permanent resident status until construction of the wall is complete, until then they are fair game for arrest & deportation 
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Posted: 1/9/2018 10:38:13 AM EDT
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Build the damn wall.
No DACA or whatever bullshit barry wanted and install air cannons to launch anchor babies over the wall. I don’t ever want to hear... Press 1 for English again. Fuck you if you don’t want to be an American . |
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Posted: 1/9/2018 10:40:05 AM EDT
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Ann Coulter is all over this. Anchor baby army will stay, and wall will be delayed into oblivion. Sadly, Trump will probably go along with it.
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Posted: 1/9/2018 10:42:05 AM EDT
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Yes, anything to get the wall built.
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Posted: 1/9/2018 10:48:34 AM EDT
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Deport them all build a wall
Reboot Ellis Island You don't get in unless we need your skill set, you are disease free,have a spotless criminal record and have Zero links to any terrorist group or individual |
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Posted: 1/9/2018 10:48:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: People like you still live in NH   |
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Posted: 1/9/2018 10:49:40 AM EDT
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First post does not nail it.
Send them back and build the wall. If you want to come to this country come here legally. |
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Posted: 1/9/2018 10:52:59 AM EDT
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Sure, with a few conditions; - They can never collect public assistance - They can't have a criminal record or gang affiliations - They must be fluent in English - No chain migration, bringing in more family members, or allowing the rest of their families to stay - Their legal permanent residence status can never be turned into citizenship - They don't get their legal permanent resident status until construction of the wall is complete, until then they are fair game for arrest & deportation |
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Posted: 1/9/2018 10:53:17 AM EDT
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Sure, with a few conditions; - They can never collect public assistance - They can't have a criminal record or gang affiliations - They must be fluent in English - No chain migration, bringing in more family members, or allowing the rest of their families to stay - Their legal permanent residence status can never be turned into citizenship - They don't get their legal permanent resident status until construction of the wall is complete, until then they are fair game for arrest & deportation |
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Posted: 1/9/2018 10:53:53 AM EDT
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Build the wall with Mexico’s money. Just like we were told. |
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Posted: 1/9/2018 10:54:35 AM EDT
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They're looking for some sort of compromise. I don't have a prob with that as long as they're not just caving.
In my opinion we should give amnesty to those DACA who are producing - gainfully employed or first responders. If you're a criminal, gtfo. If you're unemployed, gtfo. If you're in college and are in good standing academically and plan to get a job and become an American citizen, you should be on a probationary period. Drop out, gtfo. Graduate but don't get a job, gtfo. If you're a juvenile, you have to gtfo with your criminal parents. Is that so hard??? ETA: DACA reform has to go hand in hand with building the wall or come after the wall. |
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Posted: 1/9/2018 10:58:02 AM EDT
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It would be the Reagan amnesty all over again.
The Democrats and GOPe will double cross every chance they get. No deals. |
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Posted: 1/9/2018 11:01:56 AM EDT
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No. The only thing illegals are good for is voting democrat.
Send them back and keep enforcing the border without the wall. |
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Posted: 1/9/2018 11:05:01 AM EDT
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No. Dream on the other side of the wall.
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Posted: 1/9/2018 11:06:24 AM EDT
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1. Build the wall and secure the border. 2. End chain migration. 3. End the immigration lottery. 4. Consider DACA if strict limits are put in place. 10 year Visa program and if you violate any conditions you have to leave. I'm thinking the same requirements on form 4473, domestic abuse, felony, dishonorable discharge, etc... you have to go home. Parents that brought the kids in move to the end of the line. The family must also demonstrate that it is not dependent on the state, no welfare, no free college. NEVER citizenship for DACA illegals. Parents need to go home, and, since they broke the law, they would be ineligible for future entry, period. By ending chain immigration, I mean NO migration for any relative, though relatives could apply on their own merit. Also would like to see the three year permanent resident period prior to eligibility for application for citizenship extended to 10 years, with the provision that any conviction leads to deportation. I'd like to see birthright citizenship go, but that would require a Constitutional amendment. |
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Posted: 1/9/2018 11:08:19 AM EDT
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The only “deal” on DACA that I could support involves
- Building the Wall - Ending chain migration - Ending visa lottery - Ending anchor babies - Full enforcement of e-verify - Deportation of every other illegal immigrant. - And finally, no citizenship for DACA-qualified people. Ever. You can’t apply for it, you can’t marry into it. Sole exception is military service. Sure you can stick around, but you won’t ever be a citizen. |
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Posted: 1/9/2018 11:08:50 AM EDT
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Here's the deal. Extent DACA temporary legal status until the wall is built, then deportation. The wall keeps them from coming back.
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Posted: 1/9/2018 11:10:00 AM EDT
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The dreamers who build the wall with hard labor can stay. Others must leave.
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Posted: 1/9/2018 11:13:34 AM EDT
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Wall. Send them back, they don't have squatters rights. I don't give a rat's ass that many of them spent time growing up here. Many can't speak English, most don't want to assimilate, and very few are literate or literate in English. The argument that they're valedictorians and doctors/engineers/skilled artisans is laughable. If they actually had any of those skills in any numbers to matter - Mexico and other Hispanic countries would be asking to have them sent back to improve their mother countries. Their mother countries don't want them back - and there's no reason on earth why that means that WE are obligated to take them. And we're damned sure in no way obligated to enable them to bring in anyone/everyone they share a DNA string with to start siphoning welfare and SSI from Americans who paid into the system and into the wallets of incoming retirees and medical basket cases needing to deprive us of the benefits. You make sure American veterans are ALL given access to housing, medical care and able to earn the ability to feed themselves by their own labor, and cared for/about with the dignity they earned, and we can START to discuss letting some of the actually skilled DACA to apply. Until then, lets discuss what they owe us for the social benefits they absorbed from us under false pretenses by breaking our laws and lowering OUR standard of living. |
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Posted: 1/9/2018 11:14:23 AM EDT
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Build the wall first. Send the illegals back. Let them apply for legal immigration like millions before them. No tradeoffs. No shortcut deals. illegal, is illegal these shitheads are making a mockery of all those who have, and will follow the law |
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Posted: 1/9/2018 11:14:52 AM EDT
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As CiC classify all illegals in country as hostile enemy forces. Pull all military assets from overseas to repel invasion. Citizens found giving aid (employment, sanctuary, etc...) to the enemy can be rounded up to be tried for treason.
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Posted: 1/9/2018 11:16:32 AM EDT
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make all these daca folks build the wall, then apply for citizenship, time in on the wall would egual points toward becoming a citizen
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Posted: 1/9/2018 11:17:46 AM EDT
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Worth it sign it
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Posted: 1/9/2018 11:19:06 AM EDT
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I heard a good idea yesterday from someone on I believe on David Webb’s show where you would give them a choice leave or get amnesty but they would have a felony placed on their record so they could not vote
Me personally I would not concede anything to the Democrats as there is nothing they want that is not a detriment to the American people and or the country absolutely nothing. |
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Posted: 1/9/2018 11:19:18 AM EDT
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Fix the leak first, then address the standing useless water.
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Posted: 1/9/2018 11:23:12 AM EDT
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It would be the Reagan amnesty all over again. The Democrats and GOPe will double cross every chance they get. No deals. |
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Posted: 1/9/2018 11:24:57 AM EDT
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No to amnesty for the wall. The Republicans will have bought the Democrats near 3/4 million votes for the next election.
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Posted: 1/9/2018 11:25:17 AM EDT
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Yes. Let them stay to build the wall. |
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Posted: 1/9/2018 11:27:41 AM EDT
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The wall will never happen if DACA happens first. Required steps, in order: 1. Pop quiz - citizenship test, in English. Fail = deport. Pass =DACA temporary continuation. 2. Verify ID, background checks. That shit was rubber stamped the first time, so it needs to be done for real. Any problems with ID, criminal background, or not being productive =deport. 3. Deport their illegal parents. 4. Build wall. 5. Legal status as permanent non-citizen resident. They can then work on citizenship like any legal immigrant. Anyone who does not get citizenship within 10 years loses resident status and is deported. |
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Posted: 1/9/2018 11:28:40 AM EDT
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Sure, with a few conditions; - They can never collect public assistance - They can't have a criminal record or gang affiliations - They must be fluent in English - No chain migration, bringing in more family members, or allowing the rest of their families to stay - Their legal permanent residence status can never be turned into citizenship - They don't get their legal permanent resident status until construction of the wall is complete, until then they are fair game for arrest & deportation |
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Posted: 1/9/2018 11:30:25 AM EDT
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Deportation doesn't work with a porous border.
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Posted: 1/9/2018 11:32:22 AM EDT
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Apparently the WH, Republicans, and Dems are meeting today to discuss a deal for DACA to pass a spending bill and get the Wall built. Would granting legal status to 800k illegals be the downfall of Trump? Should republicans be dealing with Dems after voters handed Repubs all the power? I don't "support" it in any way. We wouldn't have made a deal with invading Soviets to let them stay and breed and become citizens because they were dreamers for the soviet state and "human beings." We would have killed them. An invasion of mexicans should be no different. |
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Posted: 1/9/2018 11:35:14 AM EDT
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No. The wall is more symbolic than effective, and DACA + chain migration is what Dem's are counting on for future voters as more people leave their shitty party.
Better solution is to have actual merit based immigration policy that is rigorously enforced. Alternatively - if you're set on a wall, negotiate DACA amnesty with the condition that chain migration is abolished entirely in exchange for the wall. Make the dems live up to their rhetoric on "dreamers" while you have your cake and eat it too |
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Posted: 1/9/2018 11:37:41 AM EDT
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It would be the Reagan amnesty all over again. The Democrats and GOPe will double cross every chance they get. No deals. |
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Posted: 1/9/2018 11:40:05 AM EDT
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Might as well work a deal.
I actually don’t see the wall being built at all, but you never know. |
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Posted: 1/9/2018 11:40:47 AM EDT
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Just build the wall and have Mexico pay for the majority of it.
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Posted: 1/9/2018 11:41:18 AM EDT
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Nope, I want both
A wall AND they have to go back Rule of law |
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Posted: 1/9/2018 11:42:52 AM EDT
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No, the wall is fucking stupid. Pretty much every other country in the world has control over it's borders, including Mexico- they have a wall on their southern border. The majority of illegal immigrants don't assimilate at all, they stay in their own neighborhoods, and we help them stay a drain on our society by sending state employees out to explain to them how to maximize their welfare benefits. The position is called "Welfare Outreach Specialist" by the way. So hell yes, we need to regain control over our southern border. Wall, ok fine. Hundred yard minefield with machine gun towers, ok fine. Laser beams along the border, step into one and die, fine. But by whatever means, we need to control our border and control our immigrants to control our future. 1911fan |
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