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Posted: 8/25/2024 2:46:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SuperSixOne: Nuts. Doesn't surprise me in the slightest that Germany is out in front leading this bullshit. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SuperSixOne: Originally Posted By Fantomas: Ricarda Lang is a piece of shit and FAT Commie Fuck BND please come and get me Its really sad to see But not a surprise really Next year the current Administration is goi g to get fucked. Look forward to vote in September |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 3:45:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Missilegeek: There's a giant distinction between saying something like "not many normal people are regular active users of X" (what I think you are saying) And "X isn't having much impact on public perception." I think X has changed the game with the media and has a pretty significant impact on what and how information is shared. No matter which source of media or information you consume, it seems pretty likely that it was influenced by X. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Missilegeek: Originally Posted By Subnet: Originally Posted By exDefensorMilitas: And yet, this "not real" thing has been built and used in a very real fashion in the realm of public perception in multiple areas of society by your ideological opponents. It doesn't matter if you "get it" or not, it is(slightly less now) a tool used by the opposition, so one should probably try to limit it's effectiveness or use it for your own benefit. Hell, I'm not even sure that most of the traffic isn't just AI bots at this point. Seriously - I don't think it's all that real, or reflective of American society as a whole. It's an illusion. There's a giant distinction between saying something like "not many normal people are regular active users of X" (what I think you are saying) And "X isn't having much impact on public perception." I think X has changed the game with the media and has a pretty significant impact on what and how information is shared. No matter which source of media or information you consume, it seems pretty likely that it was influenced by X. But hell...I dunno. |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 4:11:56 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Rebel31]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Subnet: I still have a hunch that this perception of X's influence, is really only shared by those of us who obsessively follow it. I think we're in the minority, and I think we make it out to be a bigger deal than it actually is, in reality. I think our judgement is clouded, by the fact that we all consume it and feel like it reflects reality - mostly because our reality really is shaped by it. I kinda don't think it actually does, though. But hell...I dunno. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Subnet: Originally Posted By Missilegeek: Originally Posted By Subnet: Originally Posted By exDefensorMilitas: And yet, this "not real" thing has been built and used in a very real fashion in the realm of public perception in multiple areas of society by your ideological opponents. It doesn't matter if you "get it" or not, it is(slightly less now) a tool used by the opposition, so one should probably try to limit it's effectiveness or use it for your own benefit. Hell, I'm not even sure that most of the traffic isn't just AI bots at this point. Seriously - I don't think it's all that real, or reflective of American society as a whole. It's an illusion. There's a giant distinction between saying something like "not many normal people are regular active users of X" (what I think you are saying) And "X isn't having much impact on public perception." I think X has changed the game with the media and has a pretty significant impact on what and how information is shared. No matter which source of media or information you consume, it seems pretty likely that it was influenced by X. But hell...I dunno. I forgot to post in your other thread but I think you are under-estimating the impact Twitter has on the world. For a little history lesson when Twitter launched they didn't have a mobile app. They had an open API and the first mobile apps were from 3rd party apps. TweetBot became extremely popular and Twitter owes a lot to them for making Twitter popular. Apollo for Reddit is another extremely popular app that made Reddit what it is today. Both of those apps are dead because both companies closed off their API and the internet is worse off for it. That said for all that is just and holy for the love of god please please please fix the external link sharing on this website. Someone clicking share on Twitter and then clicking the Twitter button on a post here should NOT require nuance in how to edit the link and still get a barely usable inbed. You don't have to believe me but honestly I was thinking of creating a thread to post a 1 in chat if you want better Twitter integration. Editing links is tiresome and a barrier to sharing content to this site. |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 4:46:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rebel31: @subnet I forgot to post in your other thread but I think you are under-estimating the impact Twitter has on the world. For a little history lesson when Twitter launched they didn't have a mobile app. They had an open API and the first mobile apps were from 3rd party apps. TweetBot became extremely popular and Twitter owes a lot to them for making Twitter popular. Apollo for Reddit is another extremely popular app that made Reddit what it is today. Both of those apps are dead because both companies closed off their API and the internet is worse off for it. That said for all that is just and holy for the love of god please please please fix the external link sharing on this website. Someone clicking share on Twitter and then clicking the Twitter button on a post here should NOT require nuance in how to edit the link and still get a barely usable inbed. You don't have to believe me but honestly I was thinking of creating a thread to post a 1 in chat if you want better Twitter integration. Editing links is tiresome and a barrier to sharing content to this site. And I'm saying this as a geek to his very core, who was one of the earliest adopters of Twitter. And used their API the minute it became available, as the nerdy programmer that I am. I no longer work for this site, so any complaints you have about the usability of the embeds, need to be taken further up the chain. 
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Posted: 8/25/2024 8:26:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By A_G: Yet we had a guy here a few posts up arguing that Twitter wasn't and isn't anything substantial or consequential. There's no one form of media that's going to reach everybody, but Tucker Carlson for example gets more exposure on X than he did on Fox. If it didn't undermine the international censorship complex so well the EU and that Brazilian bitch wouldn't be working so hard to concoct bullshit justifications of misinformation/harm in order to ban X in their countries. |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 9:13:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Geralt55: "Elon can't fire 80% of the company and have it still run omg what is he doing!" IIRC his response amounted to, "it turns out when you're not doing censorship and shadowbanning you don't need as many people" Wild that all the degenerate shit we saw on the platform happened effectively with the  |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 9:42:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Subnet: Honestly, I feel like you're unintentionally making my point for me. Regular people don't follow this shit. Twitter/X isn't real. You guys need to step outside of yourselves for a minute. None of this is real. You live in it, so you think it matters a lot more than it actually does. It's an illusion. And I'm saying this as a geek to his very core, who was one of the earliest adopters of Twitter. And used their API the minute it became available, as the nerdy programmer that I am. I no longer work for this site, so any complaints you have about the usability of the embeds, need to be taken further up the chain. Actually it surprises me how many people DO follow "this shit". I'm not trying to argue with you but answer me this. If Twitter/X is so unimportant then why are the leftists world wide trying to shut it down? Not just the U.S. or the EU but almost every despotic government world wide. Doesn't that seem like a lot of work and aggravation for something that is not important? |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 10:33:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chokey:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GVySXhvW8AAcbED?format=jpg&name=medium Based AF. |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 10:48:50 AM EDT
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Sub, were you asleep for the years that the media and politicians were all-in using Twitter as a source, touchstone, and tool?
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Posted: 8/25/2024 10:53:09 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/25/2024 12:26:07 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/25/2024 1:21:04 PM EDT
[Last Edit: victorgonzales]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Subnet: Honestly, I feel like you're unintentionally making my point for me. Regular people don't follow this shit. Twitter/X isn't real. You guys need to step outside of yourselves for a minute. None of this is real. You live in it, so you think it matters a lot more than it actually does. It's an illusion. And I'm saying this as a geek to his very core, who was one of the earliest adopters of Twitter. And used their API the minute it became available, as the nerdy programmer that I am. I no longer work for this site, so any complaints you have about the usability of the embeds, need to be taken further up the chain. Twitter is not reality as far as societies political opinions and whatnot. What's important is it's able to spread ideas and information. Before Elon the power that be had near complete control of what narratives could gain traction. Since Elon bought it. There's a large enough information network that they can't stop it. The opinions of Twitter may only affect a small percentage of not Twitter people directly but the information that can now be spread reaches everyone eventually. That information can sway enough people to change elections and drastically change the overall political discussions and narratives that can be used. That is the reason world governments are losing their shit and trying to force Elon to bring Twitter back into the censorship program. They can't effectively control people the way they want if theres a gaping hole in their propaganda machine. |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 5:13:34 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Geralt55]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By OKnativeson: Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By OKnativeson: Originally Posted By Geralt55: "Elon can't fire 80% of the company and have it still run omg what is he doing!" IIRC his response amounted to, "it turns out when you're not doing censorship and shadowbanning you don't need as many people" Wild that all the degenerate shit we saw on the platform happened effectively with the The things we are forced to consider in 2024 is shocking.  Meanwhile, they keep making enemies:  Attached File Attached File Attached FileI'm remembering an episode of the Simpsons, where Homer keeps slapping people with a dueling glove, and then he slaps the wrong guy   They trans'd Elon's kid. Hooooly shit an all time dumb move. Teamblue has been on a beer-muscles powertrip (thanks to twitter and other megaphones artificially holding the pendulum/overton window in place for ~16 years), annnd they have done nothing but make enemies. Once you make enough ideological enemies they might form together. They are experiencing it now. |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 5:14:31 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Geralt55]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By unreformed66: Actually it surprises me how many people DO follow "this shit". I'm not trying to argue with you but answer me this. If Twitter/X is so unimportant then why are the leftists world wide trying to shut it down? Not just the U.S. or the EU but almost every despotic government world wide. Doesn't that seem like a lot of work and aggravation for something that is not important? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By unreformed66: Originally Posted By Subnet: Honestly, I feel like you're unintentionally making my point for me. Regular people don't follow this shit. Twitter/X isn't real. You guys need to step outside of yourselves for a minute. None of this is real. You live in it, so you think it matters a lot more than it actually does. It's an illusion. And I'm saying this as a geek to his very core, who was one of the earliest adopters of Twitter. And used their API the minute it became available, as the nerdy programmer that I am. I no longer work for this site, so any complaints you have about the usability of the embeds, need to be taken further up the chain. Actually it surprises me how many people DO follow "this shit". I'm not trying to argue with you but answer me this. If Twitter/X is so unimportant then why are the leftists world wide trying to shut it down? Not just the U.S. or the EU but almost every despotic government world wide. Doesn't that seem like a lot of work and aggravation for something that is not important? Point can be dismantled a ton of different ways, (including media psyops going after Musk for not playing ball, they arrested another person who ran a social media app but didn't want to censor for them - they wouldn't use this power if it didn't matter), or "~500 million users" and lets assume "Only" half are active, a distinction without a real difference, but we can effectively wipe it away in one image.  We didn't end up with a bunch of cities and businesses totally destroyed by young leftie rioters (many of whom do not have cable), because they organically went out and did it themselves, or their Pastors at church suddenly allll got the idea at once, nationwide. Twitter was a lot of things, it IS a superhighway for information and social consensus, and it was once run by leftists for leftists. It's how they felt so powerful socially. Twitter was the Forward Air Control bird for new leftie causes. Out of the sphincter of San Fran comes ______ dumb issue/cause they like. With 200 tweets it's now "Trending"  Twitter made sure you saw it. NPC Celebrity #459 talks about it. The interns writing the teleprompters at the cable news corporations notice, and put it onto the prompter. Out it goes on TV to the boomers that night. Wikipedia gets edited Googles "Algorithm" changes to omit things they don't like And before you know it, your dumbfuck neighbor/coworker feels powerful. One day you make the mistake of having a stance they had 14 minutes ago. You say the wrong phrase, and they get hysterical, "WHY OF COURSE A 5 YEAR OLD KNOWS IF THEY'RE A WOMAN OR NOT START THE HORMONE BLOCKERS OMG OF COURSE" And this is on issue, after issue, after issue. From leftie social issues, to "safe and tested" 6month old medical products. Politics are downstream of culture. Social consensus drives this ^ or at least usually does. Twitter is the largest town square in a world where people increasingly don't go outside. Right now Faceberg, IG, and YT still censor, but twitter does not. Even if the media decides to wall off discussion of _____ topic people have interest in, it's not going away. At an extreme minimum it's got to be a hard lesson for the old blue checkmarks to engage without opponents being shadowbanned or hashtags disappearing.  They've never boxed without headgear before, and now they're thrown into UFC rules. Like, UFC 1 rules. |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 8:14:15 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Advance]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By unreformed66: Actually it surprises me how many people DO follow "this shit". I'm not trying to argue with you but answer me this. If Twitter/X is so unimportant then why are the leftists world wide trying to shut it down? Not just the U.S. or the EU but almost every despotic government world wide. Doesn't that seem like a lot of work and aggravation for something that is not important? And why people doing things on X for an hour or two get more views that the entire MSM gets for a week? Don't sell X short. It is the World's news/town square. |
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Posted: 8/26/2024 11:21:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Advance: And why do people doing things on X for an hour or two get more views that the entire MSM gets for a week? Don't sell X short. It is the World's news/town square. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Advance: Originally Posted By unreformed66: Actually it surprises me how many people DO follow "this shit". I'm not trying to argue with you but answer me this. If Twitter/X is so unimportant then why are the leftists world wide trying to shut it down? Not just the U.S. or the EU but almost every despotic government world wide. Doesn't that seem like a lot of work and aggravation for something that is not important? And why do people doing things on X for an hour or two get more views that the entire MSM gets for a week? Don't sell X short. It is the World's news/town square. I mean, there's a reason that conservatives and libertarians lost social media. They wanted to be left alone into irrelevance. Outside of here, I'm rarely on any form of "social media", that said, I still want every form of media dominated by conservative and libertarian speech, if only to drown out leftism. The marketplace of ideas is an information war. |
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Posted: 8/26/2024 9:07:08 PM EDT
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 Attached File Attached FileThe Supreme Court dismissed Murthy v Missouri et al in June by a 6-3 majority because the states and social media users couldn't conclusively prove the federal government pressured social media platforms to suppress their free speech, the dissenters called it "one of the most important free speech cases to reach this Court in years." Kharn |
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Posted: 8/26/2024 10:41:38 PM EDT
[Last Edit: DragoMuseveni]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kharn:
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/195/GV8Rlp9XMAAGCgI_jpg-3305703.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/195/GV8Rlp9W8AAtBAN_jpg-3305705.JPG The Supreme Court dismissed Murthy v Missouri et al in June by a 6-3 majority because the states and social media users couldn't conclusively prove the federal government pressured social media platforms to suppress their free speech, the dissenters called it "one of the most important free speech cases to reach this Court in years." Kharn He's hoping MAGA will forgive him by coming clean. Fuck him. He made his bed. |
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Posted: 8/27/2024 4:05:30 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/27/2024 4:07:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: spidey07]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RSG: https://media.patriots.win/post/xp8BZ6VOB6hX.jpeg Of course they did. “Dangerous to our democracy” really means “danger to our control” What’s dangerous to our democracy/republic? Communism. And democrats. One and the same. |
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Posted: 8/27/2024 4:16:37 PM EDT
[#21]
So out of all the AI platforms out there Grok is the ONLY dangerous one. How interesting.
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Posted: 8/27/2024 4:17:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RSG: https://media.patriots.win/post/xp8BZ6VOB6hX.jpeg He needs to release a downloadable freeware version.
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Posted: 8/27/2024 4:35:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By unreformed66: So out of all the AI platforms out there Grok is the ONLY dangerous one. How interesting. Likely because they have gov agents deployed in charge with direct line of communication/ control of the others like they did at Twitter. |
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Posted: 8/27/2024 4:39:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By midmo: He needs to release a downloadable freeware version. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By midmo: Originally Posted By RSG: https://media.patriots.win/post/xp8BZ6VOB6hX.jpeg He needs to release a downloadable freeware version. Did you notice they used 2 msm articles as their source? It’s that recursive loop thing again. The media gets their marching orders from dnc. This is known fact proven by Wikileaks emails. |
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Posted: 8/27/2024 4:42:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By midmo: He needs to release a downloadable freeware version. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By midmo: Originally Posted By RSG: https://media.patriots.win/post/xp8BZ6VOB6hX.jpeg He needs to release a downloadable freeware version. It does use an open source model you can download and use locally. |
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Posted: 8/27/2024 5:47:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By spidey07: Did you notice they used 2 msm articles as their source? It’s that recursive loop thing again. The media gets their marching orders from dnc. This is known fact proven by Wikileaks emails. SPLC and the ADL are agitprop generators for this reason. Feds say "we're concerned about (insert descriptor of chosen political opposition here)" and pay for "research" into said descriptor. Agitprop factories generate agitprop under the guise of legitimate research/journalism. Feds now go after the political opponent they originally identified. |
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Posted: 8/27/2024 8:23:09 PM EDT
[Last Edit: spidey07]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AK-12: SPLC and the ADL are agitprop generators for this reason. Feds say "we're concerned about (insert descriptor of chosen political opposition here)" and pay for "research" into said descriptor. Agitprop factories generate agitprop under the guise of legitimate research/journalism. Feds now go after the political opponent they originally identified. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AK-12: Originally Posted By spidey07: Did you notice they used 2 msm articles as their source? It’s that recursive loop thing again. The media gets their marching orders from dnc. This is known fact proven by Wikileaks emails. SPLC and the ADL are agitprop generators for this reason. Feds say "we're concerned about (insert descriptor of chosen political opposition here)" and pay for "research" into said descriptor. Agitprop factories generate agitprop under the guise of legitimate research/journalism. Feds now go after the political opponent they originally identified. Yep. Heres our source. It used to be Twitter that then fed media, which then fed Twitter. Recursive loop. Why doesn’t msm use Twitter as their source anymore? Hmmmmm |
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Posted: 8/27/2024 10:49:22 PM EDT
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BTW, Goatboy or whoever fixed the embedding of X.com links, so you don't have change it to twitter.com anymore.
Thanks @Goatboy! |
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Posted: 8/27/2024 11:02:24 PM EDT
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Does nobody see fucking Congress using msm media as their fucking source/reference a real serious problem? Fucking recursive loop.
That’s why the left is losing their shit. |
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Posted: 8/27/2024 11:18:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DragoMuseveni: Suckerburg sees the writing on the wall that he'll be lined up against the wall if Trump looses. He's hoping MAGA will forgive him by coming clean. Fuck him. He made his bed. He's covering his ass and hoping to gain immunity(if he hasn't already struck a deal) before 45 also becomes 47. |
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Posted: 8/27/2024 11:32:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By unreformed66: So out of all the AI platforms out there Grok is the ONLY dangerous one. How interesting. |
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Posted: 8/27/2024 11:36:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By spidey07: Likely because they have gov agents deployed in charge with direct line of communication/ control of the others like they did at Twitter. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By spidey07: Originally Posted By unreformed66: So out of all the AI platforms out there Grok is the ONLY dangerous one. How interesting. Likely because they have gov agents deployed in charge with direct line of communication/ control of the others like they did at Twitter. I may be mis-remembering but I thought one of the ex FBI directors had an actual office at FB? Or maybe some other former agency head. |
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Posted: 8/27/2024 11:38:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chokey: BTW, Goatboy or whoever fixed the embedding of X.com links, so you don't have change it to twitter.com anymore. Thanks @Goatboy! About time. Do you still have to edit links to remove the ? portion of the link? |
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Posted: 8/27/2024 11:56:37 PM EDT
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https://x.com/cb_doge/status/1828639959655555128
Using 𝕏 to post on 𝕏 that 𝕏 is not working. The irony! |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 12:02:17 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/28/2024 12:03:18 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Rebel31]
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First was x.com the second was twitter.com
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Posted: 8/28/2024 7:27:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: RSG]
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Posted: 8/28/2024 9:07:14 PM EDT
[Last Edit: RSG]
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Posted: 8/28/2024 10:49:08 PM EDT
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Looks like vpn stocks gonna go up in brazil
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Posted: 8/29/2024 12:40:13 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/29/2024 12:48:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RSG:
You want Hank Scorpio? Cause this is how you get Hank Scorpio... 
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Posted: 8/29/2024 3:54:59 PM EDT
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Looks like a big outage just started up. Website is working for me but the app says 'Posts aren't loading right now. Try again.'
 Attached Filehttps://downdetector.com/status/twitter/ |
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Posted: 8/29/2024 4:01:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rebel31: Looks like a big outage just started up. Website is working for me but the app says 'Posts aren't loading right now. Try again.' https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/381696/download__1__png-3307963.JPG https://downdetector.com/status/twitter/ Zero problems for me. X works fine. |
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Posted: 8/30/2024 11:24:22 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/30/2024 11:28:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RSG:
Zerohedge is about as trustworthy as CNN |
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Posted: 8/30/2024 4:25:43 PM EDT
[Last Edit: RSG]
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Posted: 8/30/2024 4:32:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DKUltra: Zerohedge is about as trustworthy as CNN Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DKUltra: Originally Posted By RSG:
Zerohedge is about as trustworthy as CNN Zerohedge is 1000 times more trustworthy than CNN. |
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Posted: 8/30/2024 4:51:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DKUltra: Zerohedge is about as trustworthy as CNN Name a "trustworthy" news site. They all have an angle. Every last one. |
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Posted: 8/30/2024 5:18:37 PM EDT
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And in addition to the previous 277 pages of posts, I'd like to say
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Posted: 8/30/2024 5:30:30 PM EDT
[Last Edit: spidey07]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RSG:
Despots, tyrants, communists fear free speech and the sharing of that to others more than firearms. Wonder why that is? Hmmm. I’ll go back to 1st amendment “freedom of the press” was the printing press. As the Brit’s would shut down printing presses and arrest the operators. Another reason, a big reason, we fought our war. And here they are, doing it again, in year 2024. But now our own gov is doing it. Man moves to tyranny, it’s the nature of man. History shows this over hundreds if not a thousand years. |
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