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Posted: 8/30/2024 4:59:18 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By heavily_armed: Zerohedge is 1000 times more trustworthy than CNN. 
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Posted: 8/30/2024 5:09:56 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CMiller: Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CMiller: Originally Posted By heavily_armed: Zerohedge is 1000 times more trustworthy than CNN. A trailer park child molester is 1000 times more trustworthy than CNN. |
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Posted: 8/30/2024 5:37:08 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brownbomber: A trailer park child molester is 1000 times more trustworthy than CNN. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brownbomber: Originally Posted By CMiller: Originally Posted By heavily_armed: Zerohedge is 1000 times more trustworthy than CNN. A trailer park child molester is 1000 times more trustworthy than CNN.
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Posted: 8/30/2024 6:04:20 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By heavily_armed: Zerohedge is 1000 times more trustworthy than CNN. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By heavily_armed: Originally Posted By DKUltra: Originally Posted By RSG:
Zerohedge is about as trustworthy as CNN Zerohedge is 1000 times more trustworthy than CNN. And in this case all they did was accurately quote that rat Vidman. |
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Posted: 8/30/2024 6:46:29 PM EST
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Posted: 8/31/2024 12:03:43 PM EST
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Posted: 8/31/2024 12:10:01 PM EST
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On Brazilian Justice de Moreas's order shutting down X: The text of his 51-page decision is far more concerning and sweeping than the headlines suggest. de Moreas’s own words make clear that he is attempting to strike a broader blow against free speech and in favor of authoritarian controls. His opinion does not even try to hide it. He comes right out and points to Brexit and the 2016 election of President Trump as examples, in his telling, of the types of extreme “populist” outcomes that he is attempting to avoid by imposing a new censorship regime in Brazil ahead the country’s elections later this year. But this type of censorship of a political and ideological nature is expressly prohibited by Brazil’s own Constitution. Nonetheless, de Morea argues that free speech on X cannot be allowed to continue because the diversity of political opinions expressed on the site might influence the people of Brazil ahead of their 2024 elections. See op. at 31-32. In other words, de Morea is arguing that free speech is a threat to democracy—a position that is as Orwellian as it is dangerous. The opposite is true. Free speech is democracy’s check on excessive government control. Censorship is the authoritarian’s dream. To dress up his decision, de Morea runs the warmed over playbook of labeling political speech that runs contrary to his own orthodoxy as “misinformation” and “disinformation.” But authoritarians like de Morea are not worried that people will be misled by the political messages they choose to read. He is worried that those messages will be effective. At bottom, this decision is part of a live, ongoing, and global debate between free speech and censorship, between freedom and control. It is imperative that free speech and freedom prevail. Or as the late NY Times editor John Oakes once said, “Diversity of opinion is the lifeblood of democracy. The minute we begin to insist that everyone think the same way we think, our democratic way of life is in danger.” Those are the stakes.
 
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Posted: 8/31/2024 12:10:45 PM EST
[Last Edit: spidey07]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RSG: https://media.patriots.win/post/c2jqqRvVp4xx.jpeg It’s all so tiresome and predictable. Remember the left LOVED Twitter and used it for all their sourcing of information. Then when musk bought it now it’s the most dangerous thing ever and must be stopped. Fucking despots. In this age of information how can any thinking person not see it? |
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Posted: 8/31/2024 12:50:45 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Subnet: Honestly, I feel like you're unintentionally making my point for me. Regular people don't follow this shit. Twitter/X isn't real. |
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Posted: 8/31/2024 5:40:36 PM EST
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Posted: 8/31/2024 5:52:48 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JCoop: Not having a platform to voice my opinions on an equal footing with national politicians, famous actors and the like used to really piss me off. I mean, my thoughts are as, if not more, meaningful than the drivel the so-called elites spew. I feel like X gives me that outlet. Jack Smith can post some made up legal bullshit about Trump and i can post right under him that he's full of shit and here's why. I don't care if the whole world doesn't see my analysis, but I do care that what I say is available on the same basis as those other assholes. Somebody is going to read what I wrote and maybe think, "Yeah, he's right. Jack Smith *is* full of shit". Great post. 
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Posted: 8/31/2024 9:02:29 PM EST
[Last Edit: Chokey]
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Today, we begin shining a light on the abuses of Brazilian law committed by Alexandre de Moraes. We have been forced to share these orders because there is no transparency from the court, and the people who are being censored have no recourse to appeal. Our own appeals have been ignored. And now the people of Brazil are denied access to X. Secret justice is no justice at all. Today, we say that must change.
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Posted: 8/31/2024 9:42:42 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chokey:
Today, we begin shining a light on the abuses of Brazilian law committed by Alexandre de Moraes. We have been forced to share these orders because there is no transparency from the court, and the people who are being censored have no recourse to appeal. Our own appeals have been ignored. And now the people of Brazil are denied access to X. Secret justice is no justice at all. Today, we say that must change.
Today, we launch the daily data dump on the crimes – under *Brazilian* law – that fake “judge” @alexandre has committed! He can block this platform in Brazil, but he can’t stop the whole world from knowing his illegal, shameful & hypocritical deeds. Karma’s a b*tch bro. Elon and Trump tweets are now indistinguishable 
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Posted: 8/31/2024 11:10:05 PM EST
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Posted: 8/31/2024 11:11:48 PM EST
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There is growing evidence that fake judge @Alexandre engaged in serious, repeated & deliberate election interference in Brazil’s last presidential election. Under Brazilian law, that would mean up to 20 years in prison. And, I’m sorry to say that it appears that some former Twitter employees were complicit in helping him do so. Anyone with examples or evidence to this effect, please reply to this post. |
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Posted: 8/31/2024 11:22:28 PM EST
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1 Judge breaks the law and no one is doing anything to stop him other than posting his misdeeds?
 What's really going on in Brazil and why isn't anyone demanding some "Executive Outcomes" |
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Posted: 9/1/2024 2:16:33 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DragoMuseveni: 1 Judge breaks the law and no one is doing anything to stop him other than posting his misdeeds? What's really going on in Brazil and why isn't anyone demanding some "Executive Outcomes" Options for handling things peacefully get pretty limited when the court systems themselves are corrupt. It seems so... familiar... |
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Posted: 9/1/2024 6:01:42 AM EST
[Last Edit: AK-12]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DragoMuseveni: 1 Judge breaks the law and no one is doing anything to stop him other than posting his misdeeds? What's really going on in Brazil and why isn't anyone demanding some "Executive Outcomes" Moraes is a great example of what happens when there is effectively no separation of powers and no other body will use another means to remove him. He basically deposed Bolsonaro and singlehandedly got an actual communist convicted criminal installed in their last "election." Brazil is in a different place than we are. I'm looking forward to reading the minutiae of this. |
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Posted: 9/1/2024 7:28:02 AM EST
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Posted: 9/1/2024 10:00:09 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By David0858: I think the posts with Musk's comments are from a while back but interesting https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/14727/1000033856_png-3310429.JPG Do you have the link to this post? |
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Posted: 9/1/2024 10:24:19 AM EST
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Posted: 9/1/2024 10:28:23 AM EST
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Quote HistoryThis is the guy calling for the arrest of Elon over free speech, and he's not tall enough to be riding this ride. Elon needs to squash him like a bug.   Damn garden gnome. |
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Posted: 9/1/2024 12:05:52 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Subnet: I still have a hunch that this perception of X's influence, is really only shared by those of us who obsessively follow it. I think we're in the minority, and I think we make it out to be a bigger deal than it actually is, in reality. I think our judgement is clouded, by the fact that we all consume it and feel like it reflects reality - mostly because our reality really is shaped by it. I kinda don't think it actually does, though. But hell...I dunno. |
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Posted: 9/2/2024 9:22:56 AM EST
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Posted: 9/2/2024 10:26:08 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RSG:
On Brazilian Justice de Moreas's order shutting down X: The text of his 51-page decision is far more concerning and sweeping than the headlines suggest. de Moreas’s own words make clear that he is attempting to strike a broader blow against free speech and in favor of authoritarian controls. His opinion does not even try to hide it. He comes right out and points to Brexit and the 2016 election of President Trump as examples, in his telling, of the types of extreme “populist” outcomes that he is attempting to avoid by imposing a new censorship regime in Brazil ahead the country’s elections later this year. But this type of censorship of a political and ideological nature is expressly prohibited by Brazil’s own Constitution. Nonetheless, de Morea argues that free speech on X cannot be allowed to continue because the diversity of political opinions expressed on the site might influence the people of Brazil ahead of their 2024 elections. See op. at 31-32. In other words, de Morea is arguing that free speech is a threat to democracy—a position that is as Orwellian as it is dangerous. The opposite is true. Free speech is democracy’s check on excessive government control. Censorship is the authoritarian’s dream. To dress up his decision, de Morea runs the warmed over playbook of labeling political speech that runs contrary to his own orthodoxy as “misinformation” and “disinformation.” But authoritarians like de Morea are not worried that people will be misled by the political messages they choose to read. He is worried that those messages will be effective. At bottom, this decision is part of a live, ongoing, and global debate between free speech and censorship, between freedom and control. It is imperative that free speech and freedom prevail. Or as the late NY Times editor John Oakes once said, “Diversity of opinion is the lifeblood of democracy. The minute we begin to insist that everyone think the same way we think, our democratic way of life is in danger.” Those are the stakes.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GWThPOhWgAMRBom?format=png&name=smallhttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/GWTligGW0AAvvVX?format=png&name=small
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GWTrq6QW0AAsWDm?format=jpg&name=smallhttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/GWTrq6KWoAEikpk?format=jpg&name=small What's happening in Brazil, and has been happening here in the US (and several other countries - e.g. France arresting Telegram's CEO) are just tests to gage how much the groups and organizations pushing authoritarian regimes worldwide can move their goalposts and measure how much the populations will passively accept it. Also note that in Brazil, like here, they blatantly, brazenly ignore local laws and constitutions, which they selectively and even fraudulently apply to reach their goals. |
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Posted: 9/2/2024 10:30:53 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chokey:
Of course they did. It’s all so predictable. If you can’t control the speech, you can’t control the people. |
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Posted: 9/2/2024 1:27:37 PM EST
[Last Edit: Geralt55]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rossi: What's happening in Brazil, and has been happening here in the US (and several other countries - e.g. France arresting Telegram's CEO) are just tests to gage how much the groups and organizations pushing authoritarian regimes worldwide can move their goalposts and measure how much the populations will passively accept it. Also note that in Brazil, like here, they blatantly, brazenly ignore local laws and constitutions, which they selectively and even fraudulently apply to reach their goals. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rossi: Originally Posted By RSG:
On Brazilian Justice de Moreas's order shutting down X: The text of his 51-page decision is far more concerning and sweeping than the headlines suggest. de Moreas’s own words make clear that he is attempting to strike a broader blow against free speech and in favor of authoritarian controls. His opinion does not even try to hide it. He comes right out and points to Brexit and the 2016 election of President Trump as examples, in his telling, of the types of extreme “populist” outcomes that he is attempting to avoid by imposing a new censorship regime in Brazil ahead the country’s elections later this year. But this type of censorship of a political and ideological nature is expressly prohibited by Brazil’s own Constitution. Nonetheless, de Morea argues that free speech on X cannot be allowed to continue because the diversity of political opinions expressed on the site might influence the people of Brazil ahead of their 2024 elections. See op. at 31-32. In other words, de Morea is arguing that free speech is a threat to democracy—a position that is as Orwellian as it is dangerous. The opposite is true. Free speech is democracy’s check on excessive government control. Censorship is the authoritarian’s dream. To dress up his decision, de Morea runs the warmed over playbook of labeling political speech that runs contrary to his own orthodoxy as “misinformation” and “disinformation.” But authoritarians like de Morea are not worried that people will be misled by the political messages they choose to read. He is worried that those messages will be effective. At bottom, this decision is part of a live, ongoing, and global debate between free speech and censorship, between freedom and control. It is imperative that free speech and freedom prevail. Or as the late NY Times editor John Oakes once said, “Diversity of opinion is the lifeblood of democracy. The minute we begin to insist that everyone think the same way we think, our democratic way of life is in danger.” Those are the stakes.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GWThPOhWgAMRBom?format=png&name=smallhttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/GWTligGW0AAvvVX?format=png&name=small
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GWTrq6QW0AAsWDm?format=jpg&name=smallhttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/GWTrq6KWoAEikpk?format=jpg&name=small What's happening in Brazil, and has been happening here in the US (and several other countries - e.g. France arresting Telegram's CEO) are just tests to gage how much the groups and organizations pushing authoritarian regimes worldwide can move their goalposts and measure how much the populations will passively accept it. Also note that in Brazil, like here, they blatantly, brazenly ignore local laws and constitutions, which they selectively and even fraudulently apply to reach their goals.  Attached FileThey want it here. The UK got a leftie .gov and within a few weeks they're racing FULL speed down the "thought-crime" expressway. (Reminder that their "conservatives" were the "same thing, only slower" variety). I'm sure he wasn't asked about it during the campaign. I'm sure he got to run on "Muh free shit, and I love special prefix leftie victim groups more than anyone else", media sitting there and nodding. Now that he gets in: Enjoy your gas stove bans, free speech bans, and endless hordes of migrants. Protest migrant crime or ask out loud, "hey whoa why are they being released so soon for a violent crime? We put citizens away for a long time for crimes like that?" and YOU get in trouble for asking. Your streets deteriorate in the mean time. That's what happens when you have an authoritarian left running the west, with an authoritarian left press covering it. It's bad enough that [checks notes] Nate Silver, yes, THAT Nate Silver, is waking up.  Attached FileIMHO if we lose, we get it here. |
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Posted: 9/2/2024 3:30:43 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Geralt55: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/144599/ComingSoon_jpg-3311632.JPG They want it here. The UK got a leftie .gov and within a few weeks they're racing FULL speed down the "thought-crime" expressway. (Reminder that their "conservatives" were the "same thing, only slower" variety). I'm sure he wasn't asked about it during the campaign. I'm sure he got to run on "Muh free shit, and I love special prefix leftie victim groups more than anyone else", media sitting there and nodding. Now that he gets in: Enjoy your gas stove bans, free speech bans, and endless hordes of migrants. Protest migrant crime or ask out loud, "hey whoa why are they being released so soon for a violent crime? We put citizens away for a long time for crimes like that?" and YOU get in trouble for asking. Your streets deteriorate in the mean time. That's what happens when you have an authoritarian left running the west, with an authoritarian left press covering it. It's bad enough that [checks notes] Nate Silver, yes, THAT Nate Silver, is waking up. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/144599/NateSilverBased_jpg-3311633.JPG IMHO if we lose, we get it here. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Geralt55: Originally Posted By Rossi: Originally Posted By RSG:
On Brazilian Justice de Moreas's order shutting down X: The text of his 51-page decision is far more concerning and sweeping than the headlines suggest. de Moreas’s own words make clear that he is attempting to strike a broader blow against free speech and in favor of authoritarian controls. His opinion does not even try to hide it. He comes right out and points to Brexit and the 2016 election of President Trump as examples, in his telling, of the types of extreme “populist” outcomes that he is attempting to avoid by imposing a new censorship regime in Brazil ahead the country’s elections later this year. But this type of censorship of a political and ideological nature is expressly prohibited by Brazil’s own Constitution. Nonetheless, de Morea argues that free speech on X cannot be allowed to continue because the diversity of political opinions expressed on the site might influence the people of Brazil ahead of their 2024 elections. See op. at 31-32. In other words, de Morea is arguing that free speech is a threat to democracy—a position that is as Orwellian as it is dangerous. The opposite is true. Free speech is democracy’s check on excessive government control. Censorship is the authoritarian’s dream. To dress up his decision, de Morea runs the warmed over playbook of labeling political speech that runs contrary to his own orthodoxy as “misinformation” and “disinformation.” But authoritarians like de Morea are not worried that people will be misled by the political messages they choose to read. He is worried that those messages will be effective. At bottom, this decision is part of a live, ongoing, and global debate between free speech and censorship, between freedom and control. It is imperative that free speech and freedom prevail. Or as the late NY Times editor John Oakes once said, “Diversity of opinion is the lifeblood of democracy. The minute we begin to insist that everyone think the same way we think, our democratic way of life is in danger.” Those are the stakes.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GWThPOhWgAMRBom?format=png&name=smallhttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/GWTligGW0AAvvVX?format=png&name=small
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GWTrq6QW0AAsWDm?format=jpg&name=smallhttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/GWTrq6KWoAEikpk?format=jpg&name=small What's happening in Brazil, and has been happening here in the US (and several other countries - e.g. France arresting Telegram's CEO) are just tests to gage how much the groups and organizations pushing authoritarian regimes worldwide can move their goalposts and measure how much the populations will passively accept it. Also note that in Brazil, like here, they blatantly, brazenly ignore local laws and constitutions, which they selectively and even fraudulently apply to reach their goals. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/144599/ComingSoon_jpg-3311632.JPG They want it here. The UK got a leftie .gov and within a few weeks they're racing FULL speed down the "thought-crime" expressway. (Reminder that their "conservatives" were the "same thing, only slower" variety). I'm sure he wasn't asked about it during the campaign. I'm sure he got to run on "Muh free shit, and I love special prefix leftie victim groups more than anyone else", media sitting there and nodding. Now that he gets in: Enjoy your gas stove bans, free speech bans, and endless hordes of migrants. Protest migrant crime or ask out loud, "hey whoa why are they being released so soon for a violent crime? We put citizens away for a long time for crimes like that?" and YOU get in trouble for asking. Your streets deteriorate in the mean time. That's what happens when you have an authoritarian left running the west, with an authoritarian left press covering it. It's bad enough that [checks notes] Nate Silver, yes, THAT Nate Silver, is waking up. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/144599/NateSilverBased_jpg-3311633.JPG IMHO if we lose, we get it here. What amazes me is they don’t even hide it. “Free speech is criminal and dangerous”. Not even hiding intentions. It’s like history repeating itself. We faught fucking wars over this shit. |
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Posted: 9/2/2024 5:09:43 PM EST
[Last Edit: Geralt55]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By spidey07: What amazes me is they don’t even hide it. “Free speech is criminal and dangerous”. Not even hiding intentions. It’s like history repeating itself. We faught fucking wars over this shit. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By spidey07: Originally Posted By Geralt55: Originally Posted By Rossi: Originally Posted By RSG:
On Brazilian Justice de Moreas's order shutting down X: The text of his 51-page decision is far more concerning and sweeping than the headlines suggest. de Moreas’s own words make clear that he is attempting to strike a broader blow against free speech and in favor of authoritarian controls. His opinion does not even try to hide it. He comes right out and points to Brexit and the 2016 election of President Trump as examples, in his telling, of the types of extreme “populist” outcomes that he is attempting to avoid by imposing a new censorship regime in Brazil ahead the country’s elections later this year. But this type of censorship of a political and ideological nature is expressly prohibited by Brazil’s own Constitution. Nonetheless, de Morea argues that free speech on X cannot be allowed to continue because the diversity of political opinions expressed on the site might influence the people of Brazil ahead of their 2024 elections. See op. at 31-32. In other words, de Morea is arguing that free speech is a threat to democracy—a position that is as Orwellian as it is dangerous. The opposite is true. Free speech is democracy’s check on excessive government control. Censorship is the authoritarian’s dream. To dress up his decision, de Morea runs the warmed over playbook of labeling political speech that runs contrary to his own orthodoxy as “misinformation” and “disinformation.” But authoritarians like de Morea are not worried that people will be misled by the political messages they choose to read. He is worried that those messages will be effective. At bottom, this decision is part of a live, ongoing, and global debate between free speech and censorship, between freedom and control. It is imperative that free speech and freedom prevail. Or as the late NY Times editor John Oakes once said, “Diversity of opinion is the lifeblood of democracy. The minute we begin to insist that everyone think the same way we think, our democratic way of life is in danger.” Those are the stakes.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GWThPOhWgAMRBom?format=png&name=smallhttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/GWTligGW0AAvvVX?format=png&name=small
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GWTrq6QW0AAsWDm?format=jpg&name=smallhttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/GWTrq6KWoAEikpk?format=jpg&name=small What's happening in Brazil, and has been happening here in the US (and several other countries - e.g. France arresting Telegram's CEO) are just tests to gage how much the groups and organizations pushing authoritarian regimes worldwide can move their goalposts and measure how much the populations will passively accept it. Also note that in Brazil, like here, they blatantly, brazenly ignore local laws and constitutions, which they selectively and even fraudulently apply to reach their goals. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/144599/ComingSoon_jpg-3311632.JPG They want it here. The UK got a leftie .gov and within a few weeks they're racing FULL speed down the "thought-crime" expressway. (Reminder that their "conservatives" were the "same thing, only slower" variety). I'm sure he wasn't asked about it during the campaign. I'm sure he got to run on "Muh free shit, and I love special prefix leftie victim groups more than anyone else", media sitting there and nodding. Now that he gets in: Enjoy your gas stove bans, free speech bans, and endless hordes of migrants. Protest migrant crime or ask out loud, "hey whoa why are they being released so soon for a violent crime? We put citizens away for a long time for crimes like that?" and YOU get in trouble for asking. Your streets deteriorate in the mean time. That's what happens when you have an authoritarian left running the west, with an authoritarian left press covering it. It's bad enough that [checks notes] Nate Silver, yes, THAT Nate Silver, is waking up. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/144599/NateSilverBased_jpg-3311633.JPG IMHO if we lose, we get it here. What amazes me is they don’t even hide it. “Free speech is criminal and dangerous”. Not even hiding intentions. It’s like history repeating itself. We faught fucking wars over this shit. Fuckin yup. "First thing they try to do is get rid of your guns. After that they come for free speech" And for decades, gun-banning liberals were hysterically shrieking that they simply wanted _____NEW____ gun-ban and then that's it.  And that nothing else was coming after that because, of course not. And then Australia had COVID camps. The UK is jailing people over tweets while releasing illegal immigrants that committed violent crimes to citizens - including children. Same lifetime. They're playing for keeps. They aren't hiding it. Authoritarian lefties want to ban your Superduty- while they fly private They want to ban your gas stove, they keep theirs. Your Glock19 is a problem, their security team's fleet of giggle-switch MP5SDs? No biggie. |
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Posted: 9/2/2024 5:39:09 PM EST
[Last Edit: spidey07]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Geralt55: Fuckin yup. "First thing they try to do is get rid of your guns. After that they come for free speech" And for decades, gun-banning liberals were hysterically shrieking that they simply wanted _____NEW____ gun-ban and then that's it. And that nothing else was coming after that because, of course not. And then Australia had COVID camps. The UK is jailing people over tweets while releasing illegal immigrants that committed violent crimes to citizens - including children. Same lifetime. They're playing for keeps. They aren't hiding it. Authoritarian lefties want to ban your Superduty- while they fly private They want to ban your gas stove, they keep theirs. Your Glock19 is a problem, their security team's fleet of giggle-switch MP5SDs? No biggie. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Geralt55: Originally Posted By spidey07: Originally Posted By Geralt55: Originally Posted By Rossi: Originally Posted By RSG:
On Brazilian Justice de Moreas's order shutting down X: The text of his 51-page decision is far more concerning and sweeping than the headlines suggest. de Moreas’s own words make clear that he is attempting to strike a broader blow against free speech and in favor of authoritarian controls. His opinion does not even try to hide it. He comes right out and points to Brexit and the 2016 election of President Trump as examples, in his telling, of the types of extreme “populist” outcomes that he is attempting to avoid by imposing a new censorship regime in Brazil ahead the country’s elections later this year. But this type of censorship of a political and ideological nature is expressly prohibited by Brazil’s own Constitution. Nonetheless, de Morea argues that free speech on X cannot be allowed to continue because the diversity of political opinions expressed on the site might influence the people of Brazil ahead of their 2024 elections. See op. at 31-32. In other words, de Morea is arguing that free speech is a threat to democracy—a position that is as Orwellian as it is dangerous. The opposite is true. Free speech is democracy’s check on excessive government control. Censorship is the authoritarian’s dream. To dress up his decision, de Morea runs the warmed over playbook of labeling political speech that runs contrary to his own orthodoxy as “misinformation” and “disinformation.” But authoritarians like de Morea are not worried that people will be misled by the political messages they choose to read. He is worried that those messages will be effective. At bottom, this decision is part of a live, ongoing, and global debate between free speech and censorship, between freedom and control. It is imperative that free speech and freedom prevail. Or as the late NY Times editor John Oakes once said, “Diversity of opinion is the lifeblood of democracy. The minute we begin to insist that everyone think the same way we think, our democratic way of life is in danger.” Those are the stakes.
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GWTrq6QW0AAsWDm?format=jpg&name=smallhttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/GWTrq6KWoAEikpk?format=jpg&name=small What's happening in Brazil, and has been happening here in the US (and several other countries - e.g. France arresting Telegram's CEO) are just tests to gage how much the groups and organizations pushing authoritarian regimes worldwide can move their goalposts and measure how much the populations will passively accept it. Also note that in Brazil, like here, they blatantly, brazenly ignore local laws and constitutions, which they selectively and even fraudulently apply to reach their goals. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/144599/ComingSoon_jpg-3311632.JPG They want it here. The UK got a leftie .gov and within a few weeks they're racing FULL speed down the "thought-crime" expressway. (Reminder that their "conservatives" were the "same thing, only slower" variety). I'm sure he wasn't asked about it during the campaign. I'm sure he got to run on "Muh free shit, and I love special prefix leftie victim groups more than anyone else", media sitting there and nodding. Now that he gets in: Enjoy your gas stove bans, free speech bans, and endless hordes of migrants. Protest migrant crime or ask out loud, "hey whoa why are they being released so soon for a violent crime? We put citizens away for a long time for crimes like that?" and YOU get in trouble for asking. Your streets deteriorate in the mean time. That's what happens when you have an authoritarian left running the west, with an authoritarian left press covering it. It's bad enough that [checks notes] Nate Silver, yes, THAT Nate Silver, is waking up. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/144599/NateSilverBased_jpg-3311633.JPG IMHO if we lose, we get it here. What amazes me is they don’t even hide it. “Free speech is criminal and dangerous”. Not even hiding intentions. It’s like history repeating itself. We faught fucking wars over this shit. Fuckin yup. "First thing they try to do is get rid of your guns. After that they come for free speech" And for decades, gun-banning liberals were hysterically shrieking that they simply wanted _____NEW____ gun-ban and then that's it. And that nothing else was coming after that because, of course not. And then Australia had COVID camps. The UK is jailing people over tweets while releasing illegal immigrants that committed violent crimes to citizens - including children. Same lifetime. They're playing for keeps. They aren't hiding it. Authoritarian lefties want to ban your Superduty- while they fly private They want to ban your gas stove, they keep theirs. Your Glock19 is a problem, their security team's fleet of giggle-switch MP5SDs? No biggie. It’s almost like the war of independence, the history of man that will always move to tyranny. It repeats. This is nature of man That’s why our founders put checks on man. They were brilliant, but not infallible If only there was a book of history…let’s call it a Bible. |
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Posted: 9/2/2024 6:08:48 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By spidey07: It’s almost like the war of independence, the history of man that will always move to tyranny. It repeats. This is nature of man That’s why our founders put checks on man. They were brilliant, but not infallible If only there was a book of history…let’s call it a Bible. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By spidey07: Originally Posted By Geralt55: Originally Posted By spidey07: Originally Posted By Geralt55: Originally Posted By Rossi: Originally Posted By RSG:
On Brazilian Justice de Moreas's order shutting down X: The text of his 51-page decision is far more concerning and sweeping than the headlines suggest. de Moreas’s own words make clear that he is attempting to strike a broader blow against free speech and in favor of authoritarian controls. His opinion does not even try to hide it. He comes right out and points to Brexit and the 2016 election of President Trump as examples, in his telling, of the types of extreme “populist” outcomes that he is attempting to avoid by imposing a new censorship regime in Brazil ahead the country’s elections later this year. But this type of censorship of a political and ideological nature is expressly prohibited by Brazil’s own Constitution. Nonetheless, de Morea argues that free speech on X cannot be allowed to continue because the diversity of political opinions expressed on the site might influence the people of Brazil ahead of their 2024 elections. See op. at 31-32. In other words, de Morea is arguing that free speech is a threat to democracy—a position that is as Orwellian as it is dangerous. The opposite is true. Free speech is democracy’s check on excessive government control. Censorship is the authoritarian’s dream. To dress up his decision, de Morea runs the warmed over playbook of labeling political speech that runs contrary to his own orthodoxy as “misinformation” and “disinformation.” But authoritarians like de Morea are not worried that people will be misled by the political messages they choose to read. He is worried that those messages will be effective. At bottom, this decision is part of a live, ongoing, and global debate between free speech and censorship, between freedom and control. It is imperative that free speech and freedom prevail. Or as the late NY Times editor John Oakes once said, “Diversity of opinion is the lifeblood of democracy. The minute we begin to insist that everyone think the same way we think, our democratic way of life is in danger.” Those are the stakes.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GWThPOhWgAMRBom?format=png&name=smallhttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/GWTligGW0AAvvVX?format=png&name=small
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GWTrq6QW0AAsWDm?format=jpg&name=smallhttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/GWTrq6KWoAEikpk?format=jpg&name=small What's happening in Brazil, and has been happening here in the US (and several other countries - e.g. France arresting Telegram's CEO) are just tests to gage how much the groups and organizations pushing authoritarian regimes worldwide can move their goalposts and measure how much the populations will passively accept it. Also note that in Brazil, like here, they blatantly, brazenly ignore local laws and constitutions, which they selectively and even fraudulently apply to reach their goals. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/144599/ComingSoon_jpg-3311632.JPG They want it here. The UK got a leftie .gov and within a few weeks they're racing FULL speed down the "thought-crime" expressway. (Reminder that their "conservatives" were the "same thing, only slower" variety). I'm sure he wasn't asked about it during the campaign. I'm sure he got to run on "Muh free shit, and I love special prefix leftie victim groups more than anyone else", media sitting there and nodding. Now that he gets in: Enjoy your gas stove bans, free speech bans, and endless hordes of migrants. Protest migrant crime or ask out loud, "hey whoa why are they being released so soon for a violent crime? We put citizens away for a long time for crimes like that?" and YOU get in trouble for asking. Your streets deteriorate in the mean time. That's what happens when you have an authoritarian left running the west, with an authoritarian left press covering it. It's bad enough that [checks notes] Nate Silver, yes, THAT Nate Silver, is waking up. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/144599/NateSilverBased_jpg-3311633.JPG IMHO if we lose, we get it here. What amazes me is they don’t even hide it. “Free speech is criminal and dangerous”. Not even hiding intentions. It’s like history repeating itself. We faught fucking wars over this shit. Fuckin yup. "First thing they try to do is get rid of your guns. After that they come for free speech" And for decades, gun-banning liberals were hysterically shrieking that they simply wanted _____NEW____ gun-ban and then that's it. And that nothing else was coming after that because, of course not. And then Australia had COVID camps. The UK is jailing people over tweets while releasing illegal immigrants that committed violent crimes to citizens - including children. Same lifetime. They're playing for keeps. They aren't hiding it. Authoritarian lefties want to ban your Superduty- while they fly private They want to ban your gas stove, they keep theirs. Your Glock19 is a problem, their security team's fleet of giggle-switch MP5SDs? No biggie. It’s almost like the war of independence, the history of man that will always move to tyranny. It repeats. This is nature of man That’s why our founders put checks on man. They were brilliant, but not infallible If only there was a book of history…let’s call it a Bible.  Hmm. I recall in some old book that ah, people who made buttsex a national issue/priority, it didn't go well for them right? |
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Posted: 9/2/2024 8:53:43 PM EST
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Posted: 9/2/2024 8:59:38 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Geralt55: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/144599/ComingSoon_jpg-3311632.JPG They want it here. The UK got a leftie .gov and within a few weeks they're racing FULL speed down the "thought-crime" expressway. (Reminder that their "conservatives" were the "same thing, only slower" variety). I'm sure he wasn't asked about it during the campaign. I'm sure he got to run on "Muh free shit, and I love special prefix leftie victim groups more than anyone else", media sitting there and nodding. Now that he gets in: Enjoy your gas stove bans, free speech bans, and endless hordes of migrants. Protest migrant crime or ask out loud, "hey whoa why are they being released so soon for a violent crime? We put citizens away for a long time for crimes like that?" and YOU get in trouble for asking. Your streets deteriorate in the mean time. That's what happens when you have an authoritarian left running the west, with an authoritarian left press covering it. It's bad enough that [checks notes] Nate Silver, yes, THAT Nate Silver, is waking up. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/144599/NateSilverBased_jpg-3311633.JPG IMHO if we lose, we get it here.
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Posted: 9/2/2024 9:00:59 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RSG: https://media.patriots.win/post/c2jqqRvVp4xx.jpeg |
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Posted: 9/2/2024 9:07:02 PM EST
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[#35]
Elon got a new plane. Seems appropriate.
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Posted: 9/2/2024 9:37:07 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RSG:
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RSG: Originally Posted By Geralt55: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/144599/ComingSoon_jpg-3311632.JPG They want it here. The UK got a leftie .gov and within a few weeks they're racing FULL speed down the "thought-crime" expressway. (Reminder that their "conservatives" were the "same thing, only slower" variety). I'm sure he wasn't asked about it during the campaign. I'm sure he got to run on "Muh free shit, and I love special prefix leftie victim groups more than anyone else", media sitting there and nodding. Now that he gets in: Enjoy your gas stove bans, free speech bans, and endless hordes of migrants. Protest migrant crime or ask out loud, "hey whoa why are they being released so soon for a violent crime? We put citizens away for a long time for crimes like that?" and YOU get in trouble for asking. Your streets deteriorate in the mean time. That's what happens when you have an authoritarian left running the west, with an authoritarian left press covering it. It's bad enough that [checks notes] Nate Silver, yes, THAT Nate Silver, is waking up. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/144599/NateSilverBased_jpg-3311633.JPG IMHO if we lose, we get it here.
That says it all right there. Pure tyranny. This is a candidate for president. |
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Posted: 9/2/2024 9:44:33 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By spidey07: That says it all right there. Pure tyranny. This is a candidate for president. Frightening. 
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Posted: 9/3/2024 1:44:44 AM EST
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 Elon Musk Could Be SENT TO PRISON With This IMPOSSIBLE DEMAND Requested From Him By BIDEN | #shorts |
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Posted: 9/3/2024 5:27:00 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BM1455: Elon got a new plane. Seems appropriate.
parody account |
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Posted: 9/3/2024 6:31:13 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Geralt55: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/144599/ComingSoon_jpg-3311632.JPG They want it here. The UK got a leftie .gov and within a few weeks they're racing FULL speed down the "thought-crime" expressway. (Reminder that their "conservatives" were the "same thing, only slower" variety). I'm sure he wasn't asked about it during the campaign. I'm sure he got to run on "Muh free shit, and I love special prefix leftie victim groups more than anyone else", media sitting there and nodding. Now that he gets in: Enjoy your gas stove bans, free speech bans, and endless hordes of migrants. Protest migrant crime or ask out loud, "hey whoa why are they being released so soon for a violent crime? We put citizens away for a long time for crimes like that?" and YOU get in trouble for asking. Your streets deteriorate in the mean time. That's what happens when you have an authoritarian left running the west, with an authoritarian left press covering it. It's bad enough that [checks notes] Nate Silver, yes, THAT Nate Silver, is waking up. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/144599/NateSilverBased_jpg-3311633.JPG IMHO if we lose, we get it here. Yup. |
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Posted: 9/3/2024 7:03:39 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By spidey07: That says it all right there. Pure tyranny. This is a candidate for president. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By spidey07: Originally Posted By RSG: Originally Posted By Geralt55: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/144599/ComingSoon_jpg-3311632.JPG They want it here. The UK got a leftie .gov and within a few weeks they're racing FULL speed down the "thought-crime" expressway. (Reminder that their "conservatives" were the "same thing, only slower" variety). I'm sure he wasn't asked about it during the campaign. I'm sure he got to run on "Muh free shit, and I love special prefix leftie victim groups more than anyone else", media sitting there and nodding. Now that he gets in: Enjoy your gas stove bans, free speech bans, and endless hordes of migrants. Protest migrant crime or ask out loud, "hey whoa why are they being released so soon for a violent crime? We put citizens away for a long time for crimes like that?" and YOU get in trouble for asking. Your streets deteriorate in the mean time. That's what happens when you have an authoritarian left running the west, with an authoritarian left press covering it. It's bad enough that [checks notes] Nate Silver, yes, THAT Nate Silver, is waking up. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/144599/NateSilverBased_jpg-3311633.JPG IMHO if we lose, we get it here.
That says it all right there. Pure tyranny. This is a candidate for president. Social media needed no controls when all of it was controlled by leftists marching in lockstep with both the DNC party lines and the IC. But the moment someone who values some level of free speech starts running one of the popular social media outlets, the sky is falling, free speech is dangerous, and thoughtcrime laws are needed. |
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Posted: 9/3/2024 4:15:51 PM EST
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 Elon Musk Was SHUT DOWN By San Francisco Building Owner When He Tried To Help The Homeless | #shorts |
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Posted: 9/3/2024 7:28:55 PM EST
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I think this when Elon switched sides.
 Elon CALLS OUT Biden For Being A Troll | #shorts |
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Posted: 9/4/2024 2:23:15 PM EST
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Posted: 9/4/2024 7:18:14 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chokey:
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You might be a Communist if... You are to the left of the 9th Circuit. Trump should pay Jeff Foxworthy to go back on stage and do "you might be a Communist if..." jokes. "If you believe price controls will help with inflation... You might be a Communist" |
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Posted: 9/4/2024 7:58:03 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chokey:
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Posted: 9/4/2024 10:05:00 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JoseCuervo: I can't believe my lying eyes. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JoseCuervo: Originally Posted By Chokey:
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I can't believe my lying eyes. The CA law is so fucking blatantly unConstitutional that even the 9th circuit can't run interference. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 10:13:28 PM EST
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Posted: 9/6/2024 10:20:38 PM EST
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Posted: 9/6/2024 10:29:51 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By spidey07: That says it all right there. Pure tyranny. This is a candidate for president. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By spidey07: Originally Posted By RSG: Originally Posted By Geralt55: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/144599/ComingSoon_jpg-3311632.JPG They want it here. The UK got a leftie .gov and within a few weeks they're racing FULL speed down the "thought-crime" expressway. (Reminder that their "conservatives" were the "same thing, only slower" variety). I'm sure he wasn't asked about it during the campaign. I'm sure he got to run on "Muh free shit, and I love special prefix leftie victim groups more than anyone else", media sitting there and nodding. Now that he gets in: Enjoy your gas stove bans, free speech bans, and endless hordes of migrants. Protest migrant crime or ask out loud, "hey whoa why are they being released so soon for a violent crime? We put citizens away for a long time for crimes like that?" and YOU get in trouble for asking. Your streets deteriorate in the mean time. That's what happens when you have an authoritarian left running the west, with an authoritarian left press covering it. It's bad enough that [checks notes] Nate Silver, yes, THAT Nate Silver, is waking up. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/144599/NateSilverBased_jpg-3311633.JPG IMHO if we lose, we get it here.
That says it all right there. Pure tyranny. This is a candidate for president. |
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