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Link Posted: 5/23/2024 9:57:40 AM EDT
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Silver Bullets.  Canned sunshine.

[LOL.  Beat by 90 seconds]
Link Posted: 5/23/2024 9:59:25 AM EDT
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Sleek bird. The first time I saw a B2 flying in person was awe inspiring. It was the first time it ever did a fly-by at the Dayton air show. Even though I knew what it was, seeing that black Dorito shaped hole in the sky was almost hard for my brain to process.
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I’m around 50 miles due west of Whiteman AFB. Had 2 B-2s fly over my house last week. Never gets old.
Link Posted: 5/23/2024 10:00:55 AM EDT
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Sleek bird. The first time I saw a B2 flying in person was awe inspiring. It was the first time it ever did a fly-by at the Dayton air show. Even though I knew what it was, seeing that black Dorito shaped hole in the sky was almost hard for my brain to process.
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I got to stand under one while it dropped practice bombs on a target at smoky hill bombing range. That was a creepy feeling.
Link Posted: 5/23/2024 10:04:59 AM EDT
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I’m around 50 miles due west of Whiteman AFB. Had 2 B-2s fly over my house last week. Never gets old.
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Sleek bird. The first time I saw a B2 flying in person was awe inspiring. It was the first time it ever did a fly-by at the Dayton air show. Even though I knew what it was, seeing that black Dorito shaped hole in the sky was almost hard for my brain to process.


I’m around 50 miles due west of Whiteman AFB. Had 2 B-2s fly over my house last week. Never gets old.


I must be in a flight path. They come over nearly daily when returning to Whiteman. They have a distinctive sound that you recognize after a while.
Link Posted: 5/23/2024 10:09:34 AM EDT
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If pictures of the B21 give you an erection lasting longer than 4 hours, please call your doctor.
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Why is ED on the landing gear door? Is Viagra a sponsor?
If pictures of the B21 give you an erection lasting longer than 4 hours, please call your doctor.

Nurse. You call a nurse.

Preferably a head nurse
Link Posted: 5/23/2024 10:10:41 AM EDT
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OH NO AMERICAN MILITARY BROS

WE GOT TOO COCKY
Link Posted: 5/23/2024 10:11:41 AM EDT
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The B21 has a red rocket.
Link Posted: 5/23/2024 10:19:32 AM EDT
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It seems impossible with no visible air intake or exhausts.

EV thread?
Link Posted: 5/23/2024 10:21:38 AM EDT
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How dare you
Link Posted: 5/23/2024 10:25:29 AM EDT
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If B-21 is eating 3 Gorges Dam, it is because Xi has already decided to glass our population centers.

We don't need B-21 to eat 3 Gorges.

B-21 has other jobs.
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Link Posted: 5/23/2024 10:31:42 AM EDT
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OR...feed me the Pringles!

Link Posted: 5/23/2024 10:31:56 AM EDT
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You just can't see them well from the pics in this thread but they are there and very visible from the front.

Link Posted: 5/23/2024 10:35:10 AM EDT
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I want one. I'll just extend my existing auto insurance policy to cover a B21, too.

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But they're 65,000 times bettererer than us
Link Posted: 5/23/2024 10:38:30 AM EDT
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The keep getting smarter. Not sure if they've surpassed birds yet or not.
Link Posted: 5/23/2024 10:51:19 AM EDT
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Tested with and cleared to carry these beauties too (:

https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod/images/b-61-bomb-rack-65667002c5963.jpg
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No nuclear stand-off capability yet though
Link Posted: 5/23/2024 10:51:57 AM EDT
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The keep getting smarter. Not sure if they've surpassed birds yet or not.
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The keep getting smarter. Not sure if they've surpassed birds yet or not.
1943 test flight of the Northrop N-9, first flight 1942.  No computers of course.
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A rebuilt N-9 at a 2004 air show
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I must mention that this plane crashed in a fatal accident, but only after it was flown successfully for several decades.
Link Posted: 5/23/2024 10:53:46 AM EDT
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How dare you
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How dare you


Link Posted: 5/23/2024 10:55:46 AM EDT
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Tested with and cleared to carry these beauties too (:

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Link Posted: 5/23/2024 11:03:17 AM EDT
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I doubt they are that successful in real world application.
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Yes they do. Low rumbling, very soothing to Americans. Lotsa power in that jet. I read somewhere on ARFcom that Whiteman is getting B-21s when the time comes.
Link Posted: 5/23/2024 11:11:00 AM EDT
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The first picture looks like an angry dolphin with a toothpick in it's mouth.
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The water belongs to the people of China, we shall liberate it from the evil water hoarding dam and distribute it to the masses
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I do not understand GD's continual jerking off to fantasying about destroying a dam!  3GD is probably on page 2 or 3 of the SIOP.  In a nuclear war, just like a gun fight, you take out the most dangerous opponent first.  For China that means: ICBMs, Nuclear capable aircraft, all their submarines, C&C centers while keeping a reserve in case NK, Russia or Iran get froggy.  Then, you start on counter value targets like population centers and damns.
Link Posted: 5/23/2024 11:13:30 AM EDT
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Stability augmentation software in the fly-by-wire control system.

I've flown RC models of similar shapes, and the lack of vertical surfaces (without stability augmentation) causes a very slight yawing motion at higher speeds, with the yawing increasing as speed is reduced, until the plane does something resembling an intentional stall-spin at low speed.

The slight yawing motion in normal flight was apparently one of the arguments given for cancelling the B-49, as it would supposedly interfere with targeting with the bombs that were used at the time.
Link Posted: 5/23/2024 11:16:52 AM EDT
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Give 2 years before chicom hack Northrop Grumman
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What do you think they gave Hunter the $1.7 billion for?
Link Posted: 5/23/2024 11:21:57 AM EDT
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Constant computer input, far more input than a team of pilots could reasonably produce. It was a major problem with Jack Northrop's Flying Wing.

Jack was shown a model of the B2 shortly before he died; he started to cry and said, "Now I know why God has  kept me alive so long."
Link Posted: 5/23/2024 11:22:56 AM EDT
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Not particularly needed given stealth characteristics and current weapons.
Link Posted: 5/23/2024 11:24:24 AM EDT
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3GD is probably on page 2 or 3 of the SIOP.
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It isn't on any page of the SIOP.
Link Posted: 5/23/2024 11:27:50 AM EDT
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Looks cool.

In a kenetic war with china,  dont expect us to target the 3 gorges.
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Well, not at first anyway...

I've zero faith that fee-fees will remain intact throughout such that strategic escalation doesn't occur.
Link Posted: 5/23/2024 11:29:03 AM EDT
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I like the sky grey color, bet it’s cooler also.
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"Air superiority gray", and I'm not kidding.

It is smaller than a B-2, and the B-2 isn't very big to begin with. I did see one that looked HUGE for a minute or two..I've written about it a couple of times in the past. Another chief and I got lost in the dark on the far side of Nellis' ramp, where they'd parked our MH-53s, and I came very, very close to running a pickup truck into a B-2 taxing into parking. Aircraft never even slowed, I'm fairly certain he never saw us driving with just marker lights. I still have a little ringing in my right ear from Chief S. screaming at me to brake.

Wingspan comparison: B-52 = 185'...B-2 = 172'...B-21 estimated to be 132'
Link Posted: 5/23/2024 11:29:39 AM EDT
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A regular Robin Hood of water, I like it.....
Link Posted: 5/23/2024 11:31:33 AM EDT
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Looks like he has the radar picker upper doo hickey extended too.
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Appears to be the NCS of the F16C.  Pain in the ass to safety wire and seal with stretched copper wire and a lead seal.  Not bad once you learn the technique.
Link Posted: 5/23/2024 11:33:08 AM EDT
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It isn't on any page of the SIOP.
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3GD is probably on page 2 or 3 of the SIOP.

It isn't on any page of the SIOP.


Wow, I would've guessed that tidbit recipe-worthy.  Although, if only counterforce options are available in the SIOP...
Link Posted: 5/23/2024 11:33:34 AM EDT
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It's official Chinese policy that they will nuke anybody who fucks with the dam.  The number of people they'd lose downstream is equivalent to a nuclear war, so that's not unreasonable.
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US policy is anyone attacks an Aircraft Carrier gets canned sunshine and China will damn sure go after our flat tops. Given that, the dam will be fair game.
Link Posted: 5/23/2024 11:36:53 AM EDT
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Tested with and cleared to carry these beauties too (:

https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod/images/b-61-bomb-rack-65667002c5963.jpg


What are they?


Portable microwave ovens. Perfect for cooking hot pockets on the go.
Link Posted: 5/23/2024 11:37:09 AM EDT
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https://www.newsweek.com/china-radar-vanish-plasma-stealth-technology-1872763

More from China.
Link Posted: 5/23/2024 11:38:07 AM EDT
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I must be in a flight path. They come over nearly daily when returning to Whiteman. They have a distinctive sound that you recognize after a while.
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Sleek bird. The first time I saw a B2 flying in person was awe inspiring. It was the first time it ever did a fly-by at the Dayton air show. Even though I knew what it was, seeing that black Dorito shaped hole in the sky was almost hard for my brain to process.


I’m around 50 miles due west of Whiteman AFB. Had 2 B-2s fly over my house last week. Never gets old.


I must be in a flight path. They come over nearly daily when returning to Whiteman. They have a distinctive sound that you recognize after a while.


I remember the first time I saw one flying overhead. Then a few seconds later another, then another and then two more.
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US policy is anyone attacks an Aircraft Carrier gets canned sunshine and China will damn sure go after our flat tops. Given that, the dam will be fair game.
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It's official Chinese policy that they will nuke anybody who fucks with the dam.  The number of people they'd lose downstream is equivalent to a nuclear war, so that's not unreasonable.



US policy is anyone attacks an Aircraft Carrier gets canned sunshine and China will damn sure go after our flat tops. Given that, the dam will be fair game.


It is?  I mean, it's claimed as such by various .MilBros here, but I don't recall reading that in things like the Nuclear Posture Review.  I probably misread the relevant euphemism in it.

It's a capital ship, and killing a few thousand Americans at once---exceeding total GWOT KIA with one Boom!----is really, really bad.  But using nukes because we lost a ship sounds really, really excessive.
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I didn’t even know this thing existed until I saw one in flight and came to GD asking what I’d seen.
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It is?  I mean, it's claimed as such by various .MilBros here, but I don't recall reading that in things like the Nuclear Posture Review.  I probably misread the relevant euphemism in it.

It's a capital ship, and killing a few thousand Americans at once---exceeding total GWOT KIA with one Boom!----is really, really bad.  But using nukes because we lost a ship sounds really, really excessive.
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It's been a 'thing' since the 80's at least that's when I can remember back. Sure it could be bullshit but I doubt anything such as that would be published policy, same goes for the Chinese and the Dam. Seems kind of silly to telegraph what you may/may not do. Fact is China has been trying to figure out a way to kill our carriers for some time, they claim they can. No doubt an all out shooting war with China would be very bad for both countries.
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US policy is anyone attacks an Aircraft Carrier gets canned sunshine and China will damn sure go after our flat tops. Given that, the dam will be fair game.
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It's official Chinese policy that they will nuke anybody who fucks with the dam.  The number of people they'd lose downstream is equivalent to a nuclear war, so that's not unreasonable.



US policy is anyone attacks an Aircraft Carrier gets canned sunshine and China will damn sure go after our flat tops. Given that, the dam will be fair game.

Sorry, you winged when you should have wonged
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I doubt they are that successful in real world application.

https://www.newsweek.com/china-radar-vanish-plasma-stealth-technology-1872763

More from China.

Newsweek article about China tech claims.

Opinion discarded.

Link Posted: 5/23/2024 11:51:41 AM EDT
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Nuke batts for each turbine.


Link Posted: 5/23/2024 11:55:52 AM EDT
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Thats 100% not true.
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Thats 100% not true.
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Ok then, great we have nothing to worry about.....Given the current climate when China sinks our first carrier we'll probably offer them the West coast.
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Ok then, great we have nothing to worry about.....Given the current climate when China sinks our first carrier we'll probably offer them the West coast.
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Thats 100% not true.



Ok then, great we have nothing to worry about.....Given the current climate when China sinks our first carrier we'll probably offer them the West coast.

"Pretend to be gay, when you are based."

- Sun Tzu



https://www.twz.com/news-features/a-10-warthogs-escorting-a-ballistic-missile-submarine-is-certainly-different

When it comes to team-ups we didn't expect, Air Force A-10s and a Navy Ohio class ballistic submarine certainly is one of them. But this is exactly what went down in Washington State when USS Nebraska was escorted by a quartet of A-10 Warthogs. What exactly the A-10's mission included as part of the escort operation and how it came about remains unclear, although it was certainly a very rare sight to behold.
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How long till the ukraine asks for one?
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