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Posted: 11/2/2021 5:07:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: New Ford Broncos are junk. Ford dealers are also screwing over those that ordered one. Telling those that reserved them that they owe another $10,000 even though customers signed an agreement. Dirtbags. Already problems with torque converters and soon to have rear axle problems. Wait and see. Also the pencil thin IFS tie rods are predictably bending like wet noodles. I've seen a few vids and photos of front tires pointing the opposite directions after encountering mildly tough terrain. |
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Posted: 11/2/2021 5:08:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 200K?! Jesus H Christ.... For 200k I could build something that would be funner and more capable than that. |
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Posted: 11/2/2021 5:10:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: New Ford Broncos are junk. Ford dealers are also screwing over those that ordered one. Telling those that reserved them that they owe another $10,000 even though customers signed an agreement. Dirtbags. Already problems with torque converters and soon to have rear axle problems. Wait and see. Those are the sport models. |
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Posted: 11/2/2021 5:13:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Still looks more like a Scout II....Not as good actually. https://cdn.hiconsumption.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/International-Scout-II-LSII-Three-By-New-Legend-4X4-0-Hero-1087x725.jpg That's a good looking scout, my dad had one in purple imron with side pipes and the original mag wheels when I was small boy. |
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Posted: 11/2/2021 5:14:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you can build a competitive Baja 1000 truck for under $200k you need to start a team. I didn't say Baja 1000 truck...I said funner and more capable.  and you think this thing is competitive? what class? with a trophy truck? lol |
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Posted: 11/2/2021 5:21:29 PM EDT
[#6]
fugly
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Posted: 11/2/2021 5:29:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lol. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Rather spend $19K on a Tacoma. They need to make that with a diesel, manual trans , crank windows, leaf springs, manual lock hubs if they want my attention. Lol. It’s like clockwork. They come out and claim they would buy a vehicle if only the automakers would make it, but they don’t make it because nobody buys it because the people claiming they would are driving 30 year old beaters Abe don’t buy new anything. |
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Posted: 11/2/2021 5:31:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It’ll look great in a mall parking lot. On a trailer because it’s not street legal. |
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Posted: 11/2/2021 5:34:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: New Ford Broncos are junk. Ford dealers are also screwing over those that ordered one. Telling those that reserved them that they owe another $10,000 even though customers signed an agreement. Dirtbags. Already problems with torque converters and soon to have rear axle problems. Wait and see. Go on. |
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Posted: 11/2/2021 5:43:38 PM EDT
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Some of you are so out of touch with reality, it's sad.
These 50 trucks will sell out the day they're up for sale. I'm not in the market, but these are pretty bad ass. The racing world makes the rest of the car world better because the parts trickle down the line. I'd love to see Ford put this engine in the current Bronco, I'd be a buyer today if they did. |
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Posted: 11/2/2021 5:44:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you can build a competitive Baja 1000 truck for under $200k you need to start a team. Exactly this, most teams start out with numbers well into the millions. |
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Posted: 11/2/2021 5:45:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: New Ford Broncos are junk. Ford dealers are also screwing over those that ordered one. Telling those that reserved them that they owe another $10,000 even though customers signed an agreement. Dirtbags. That is when you contact FMCO and complain. |
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Posted: 11/2/2021 5:48:01 PM EDT
[#13]
Can it run in the King of the Hammers from the showroom?
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Posted: 11/2/2021 5:52:08 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Can it run in the King of the Hammers from the showroom? Guys who think the DR is greatest thing ever probably don't even know what KOH is. |
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Posted: 11/2/2021 5:56:51 PM EDT
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I read that is based on the Ford escape? That doesn't excite me.
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Posted: 11/2/2021 5:58:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: On a trailer because it’s not street legal. Its built to race but i see turn signals, throwing a Windshield and maybe a rear view mirror isn't that difficult. Might just need to be wearing eye protection Depending on your state. Maybe some mud flaps in the rear. You could drive that with a pair of sunglasses here and not be pulled over normally. |
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Posted: 11/2/2021 6:04:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I read that is based on the Ford escape? That doesn't excite me.  |
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Posted: 11/2/2021 6:15:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Still looks more like a Scout II....Not as good actually. https://cdn.hiconsumption.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/International-Scout-II-LSII-Three-By-New-Legend-4X4-0-Hero-1087x725.jpg |
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Posted: 11/2/2021 6:18:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Its built to race but i see turn signals, throwing a Windshield and maybe a rear view mirror isn't that difficult. Might just need to be wearing eye protection Depending on your state. Maybe some mud flaps in the rear. You could drive that with a pair of sunglasses here and not be pulled over normally. It may not come with a vin, and then it becomes a pretty grey area. |
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Posted: 11/3/2021 8:37:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Collector vehicle. Less than 5% of the lot will ever see hard use. So no different than any other 4x4 vehicle? |
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Posted: 11/3/2021 9:01:07 AM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Looks small. LOL! |
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Posted: 11/3/2021 9:59:58 AM EDT
[#22]
I got excited when a new Bronco was on our lot here local a month or so back. We pulled over to check it out, looked awesome!
It was in the back lot here at Kendall Ford, and then I discovered why.... Looks like it had a small engine fire of some sort.. Doh! |
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Posted: 11/3/2021 10:13:42 AM EDT
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Ford knows how to hype! All of 50 of them and MSRP of 200 grand! The unwashed masses will go crazy over the regular edition with half the power and bolt on go fasters for about a hundred thousand.
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Posted: 11/3/2021 10:19:08 AM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Ford knows how to hype! All of 50 of them and MSRP of 200 grand! The unwashed masses will go crazy over the regular edition with half the power and bolt on go fasters for about a hundred thousand. Sure was cool back in the 90s when we had an entire country releasing wild crap like this competing with each other, and then the 2000s hit and they all decided to sell slight variations of the Camry. |
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Posted: 11/3/2021 10:21:15 AM EDT
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Meh, they'll just sit on the dealers' lots. Nobody will want one since they aren't street legal. Might be worthwhile to pick one up on end-of-year discount as a cheap alternative to a SxS.
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Posted: 11/3/2021 10:23:42 AM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What does that do better than a Tacoma? Nothing. Lol it will stomp its ass in a race. |
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Posted: 11/3/2021 10:25:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Also the pencil thin IFS tie rods are predictably bending like wet noodles. I've seen a few vids and photos of front tires pointing the opposite directions after encountering mildly tough terrain. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: New Ford Broncos are junk. Ford dealers are also screwing over those that ordered one. Telling those that reserved them that they owe another $10,000 even though customers signed an agreement. Dirtbags. Already problems with torque converters and soon to have rear axle problems. Wait and see. Also the pencil thin IFS tie rods are predictably bending like wet noodles. I've seen a few vids and photos of front tires pointing the opposite directions after encountering mildly tough terrain. You've seen videos of the ONE Bronco that's done it which was also riding on 37s and it was not a mild trail. The torque converter comment is also false as well or at least isolated as I've heard nothing about it. This is the same transmission used in Explorer and nothing new. It just reads like a guy that's bitter because he can't get one. You should have ordered early, boss. |
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Posted: 11/3/2021 10:28:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I didn't say Baja 1000 truck...I said funner and more capable. and you think this thing is competitive? what class? with a trophy truck? lol Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: If you can build a competitive Baja 1000 truck for under $200k you need to start a team. I didn't say Baja 1000 truck...I said funner and more capable. and you think this thing is competitive? what class? with a trophy truck? lol Do you have more details on the Bronco DR than the glamour shots posted in the OP? Based on the pics it certainly appears to be targeting the SCORE/BITD off-road racing audience. I’d love to see the portfolio of comparable desert racing vehicles you have built for under $200k. A Class 9 or 11 isn’t comparable even if you might consider it funnier. Class 3 with the other Broncos would be the natural class but it may exceed the wheelbase limit. In the 2019 Baja 1000 the Bronco R was impressive- it was entertaining watching a team deal with way too many Ford engineers in the pits. Even mentioning TT class with respect to the Bronco DR is delusional. What does Geissler Bros charge for a TT that can be driven out of their shop under its own power? |
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Posted: 11/3/2021 10:29:22 AM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Looks small. 
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Posted: 11/3/2021 10:29:29 AM EDT
[#30]
I was drivn around and saw the sport edition a few days back. I was super disapointed. looks notin like what you posted Op. Looks like a fag mobile. I'll stick with my tacoma, thank you.
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Posted: 11/3/2021 10:32:08 AM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Rather spend $19K on a Tacoma. They need to make that with a diesel, manual trans , crank windows, leaf springs, manual lock hubs if they want my attention. Hand crank steam engine or it’s a no buy for me |
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Posted: 11/3/2021 11:04:13 AM EDT
[#32]
Damn, the Tacoma whores showed up real quick...you guys are quickly becoming the 10mm/Tikka/ Hi Power crowd...
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Posted: 11/3/2021 11:35:40 AM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Do you have more details on the Bronco DR than the glamour shots posted in the OP? Based on the pics it certainly appears to be targeting the SCORE/BITD off-road racing audience. I'd love to see the portfolio of comparable desert racing vehicles you have built for under $200k. A Class 9 or 11 isn't comparable even if you might consider it funnier. Class 3 with the other Broncos would be the natural class but it may exceed the wheelbase limit. In the 2019 Baja 1000 the Bronco R was impressive- it was entertaining watching a team deal with way too many Ford engineers in the pits. Even mentioning TT class with respect to the Bronco DR is delusional. What does Geissler Bros charge for a TT that can be driven out of their shop under its own power? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: If you can build a competitive Baja 1000 truck for under $200k you need to start a team. I didn't say Baja 1000 truck...I said funner and more capable. and you think this thing is competitive? what class? with a trophy truck? lol Do you have more details on the Bronco DR than the glamour shots posted in the OP? Based on the pics it certainly appears to be targeting the SCORE/BITD off-road racing audience. I'd love to see the portfolio of comparable desert racing vehicles you have built for under $200k. A Class 9 or 11 isn't comparable even if you might consider it funnier. Class 3 with the other Broncos would be the natural class but it may exceed the wheelbase limit. In the 2019 Baja 1000 the Bronco R was impressive- it was entertaining watching a team deal with way too many Ford engineers in the pits. Even mentioning TT class with respect to the Bronco DR is delusional. What does Geissler Bros charge for a TT that can be driven out of their shop under its own power? |
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Posted: 11/3/2021 12:08:28 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It's still just an overpriced shit box with a blue oval on it. I like Ford but thats just stupid. Imagine the availability of replacement parts. It's not a fucking commuter. |
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Posted: 11/3/2021 12:13:22 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted:  Nobody's going to market that vehicle. Because it would sell about 5 units new, and be a huge money loss for the MFG. People who want a "simple, basic" truck or SUV usually aren't the ones buying brand-new anyhow. Car makers are making cars for people to buy new. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Rather spend $19K on a Tacoma. They need to make that with a diesel, manual trans , crank windows, leaf springs, manual lock hubs if they want my attention. Nobody's going to market that vehicle. Because it would sell about 5 units new, and be a huge money loss for the MFG. People who want a "simple, basic" truck or SUV usually aren't the ones buying brand-new anyhow. Car makers are making cars for people to buy new. Agreed. Why the hell would you want leafs on that? Diesel is a lot less cool since this DEF shit, but otherwise a TD would be cool. Crank windows suck. Either way, he just described a 45k Tacoma these days. |
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Posted: 11/3/2021 12:19:12 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: New Ford Broncos are junk. Ford dealers are also screwing over those that ordered one. Telling those that reserved them that they owe another $10,000 even though customers signed an agreement. Dirtbags. Already problems with torque converters and soon to have rear axle problems. Wait and see. How does shitty dealerships make a car junk or not? There have been like 3 total powertrain issues that I have seen. And I have been looking. People repeat this shit with zero actual information. Post your sources. I just took delivery of mine last weekend and I love it. |
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Posted: 11/3/2021 12:23:17 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Can it run in the King of the Hammers from the showroom? ARFCOM sponsor? 
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Posted: 11/3/2021 12:27:55 PM EDT
[#38]
Is it electric?
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Posted: 11/3/2021 12:35:11 PM EDT
[#39]
Buy a 1999 Tacoma for $10k.
Get $10k of fabwork done for cage. Install $6k of suspension. $2k for tires and wheels You now have a vehicle more likely to finish the Baja 1000 than that brand new Bronco. Spend the other $170k on hookers and blow in La Paz after you finish. |
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Posted: 11/3/2021 12:37:58 PM EDT
[#40]
Kinda pointless with a total production of 50. No one is going to use those as intended.
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Posted: 11/3/2021 1:00:58 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Buy a 1999 Tacoma for $10k. Get $10k of fabwork done for cage. Install $6k of suspension. $2k for tires and wheels You now have a vehicle more likely to finish the Baja 1000 than that brand new Bronco. Spend the other $170k on hookers and blow in La Paz after you finish. You won’t even need to worry about blowing $170k on hookers & blow in La Paz since you’ll reach the finish line a week after the race was officially over….. How many SCORE races have you entered? How many have you finished? What suspension are you installing for $6k? What tires & wheels are you getting for $2k? How many spare tire/wheels are you getting with that $2k? IIRC we have at least 8 spares spread out across our chase trucks and the race truck carries two spares. And we’re a very low budget operation that does it for fun. |
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Posted: 11/3/2021 1:02:51 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This right there ^^^^^^^ and have those window vents that you could open while going down the road to push air into the cab.....I miss those. Man I miss wing windows. 
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Posted: 11/3/2021 1:03:41 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Do you have more details on the Bronco DR than the glamour shots posted in the OP? Based on the pics it certainly appears to be targeting the SCORE/BITD off-road racing audience. I'd love to see the portfolio of comparable desert racing vehicles you have built for under $200k. A Class 9 or 11 isn't comparable even if you might consider it funnier. Class 3 with the other Broncos would be the natural class but it may exceed the wheelbase limit. In the 2019 Baja 1000 the Bronco R was impressive- it was entertaining watching a team deal with way too many Ford engineers in the pits. Even mentioning TT class with respect to the Bronco DR is delusional. What does Geissler Bros charge for a TT that can be driven out of their shop under its own power? Most intelligent answer in this whole thread. I laugh at these guys that think a Taco with a few bolt ons will finish the 1000. I can't even get my truck ready this year for 60k. (Race prep, chase team etc.). |
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Posted: 11/3/2021 1:13:08 PM EDT
[#44]
Hoe many of those do you think will actually get used "off road"
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Posted: 11/3/2021 1:14:03 PM EDT
[#45]
ARFCOM's dream truck
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Posted: 11/3/2021 1:22:19 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Hoe many of those do you think will actually get used "off road" Probably more than a few. The company building and selling them look like they may be screening potential buyers. |
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Posted: 11/3/2021 1:22:48 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Some of you are so out of touch with reality, it's sad. These 50 trucks will sell out the day they're up for sale. I'm not in the market, but these are pretty bad ass. The racing world makes the rest of the car world better because the parts trickle down the line. I'd love to see Ford put this engine in the current Bronco, I'd be a buyer today if they did. Many here know as much about cars as DU does about guns. Almost comical. lol That is one bad ass rig and I too am excited to see the 5.0 in it. Gives me hope that we might be able to buy one of the lot someday. |
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Posted: 11/3/2021 1:32:06 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Rather spend $19K on a Tacoma. They need to make that with a diesel, manual trans , crank windows, leaf springs, manual lock hubs if they want my attention. Where can you get a Taco for 19? |
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Posted: 11/3/2021 1:33:37 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Where can you get a Taco for 19? Gotta look for the ones with new frames. |
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Posted: 11/3/2021 1:37:25 PM EDT
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