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Posted: 4/18/2021 9:39:09 PM EST
[#1]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Glock 19... G17>G19 Plus not SAO, so you're wrong twice. |
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Posted: 4/18/2021 9:39:51 PM EST
[#2]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Sig P226 X-five or X-six The X6 I shot was incredible, but I'm not sure about daily carry. |
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Posted: 4/18/2021 9:42:10 PM EST
[#3]
CZ Checkmate Parrot
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Posted: 4/18/2021 9:42:42 PM EST
[#4]
If CZ is out, then go 2011.
Or BHP. Nothing wrong with them either. |
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Posted: 4/18/2021 9:42:46 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I really like my Wilson Combat EDC X9, incredible pistol https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/108967/A2004259-C50D-45A6-894B-92FE5EA3274B_jpe-1910238.JPG Oh yeah, that's nice. |
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Posted: 4/18/2021 9:43:50 PM EST
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If that slide style was a problem, Schweizerische Industrie Gesellschaft wouldn’t have put it on a the Pistole 49. Sig makes them again as the P210, and it should meet your requirements as best single action pistol. However if single stack isn’t your thing then look for a Phoenix Redback SA. The Redback can be had optic ready as well.
  
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Posted: 4/18/2021 9:44:51 PM EST
[#7]
Quote HistoryQuoted: CZ Checkmate Parrot https://armazone.ch/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/https_CZ75_TSCzechmate_Parrot_2.jpg 
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Posted: 4/18/2021 9:46:24 PM EST
[#8]
Quote HistoryHow about a Sig P226 Legion. I just picked up a used P229 Legion RXP have not had a chance to shoot it. But it feels great. Edit to change it to the full sized P226. |
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Posted: 4/18/2021 9:47:42 PM EST
[#9]
Quote HistoryQuoted: How about a Sig P229 Legion. I just picked up a used P229 Legion RXP have not had a chance to shoot it. But it feels great. Quote HistoryQuoted: How about a Sig P229 Legion. I just picked up a used P229 Legion RXP have not had a chance to shoot it. But it feels great. 226 Legion is on my short list. I'll always side with the larger pistol until we get into competition 6" guns. I've shot them and very much like them. |
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Posted: 4/18/2021 9:48:52 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Can you get an RMR on those? I have shot one a couple times with other guys guns, but I'd like to own and shoot my own. Everyone raves about them but I'm not there yet because I don't shoot them often. Basically I really want it all. RMR/double stack/SAO/accurate/daily carry/compete. I'm not rich but I'm not a poor. I'd like to save for it and do it right the first time. I can't buy three 2k-3k guns to see which I like better, but I'm happy to save for one. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I really like my Wilson Combat EDC X9, incredible pistol https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/108967/A2004259-C50D-45A6-894B-92FE5EA3274B_jpe-1910238.JPG Can you get an RMR on those? I have shot one a couple times with other guys guns, but I'd like to own and shoot my own. Everyone raves about them but I'm not there yet because I don't shoot them often. Basically I really want it all. RMR/double stack/SAO/accurate/daily carry/compete. I'm not rich but I'm not a poor. I'd like to save for it and do it right the first time. I can't buy three 2k-3k guns to see which I like better, but I'm happy to save for one. Yes, they’re offering it as an option now. Looks like it runs about an extra $250-300 for the cut/mount depending on options. I just happened to get a crazy deal on mine, it was too good to pass up. https://www.wilsoncombat.com/true-zero-optics/ |
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Posted: 4/18/2021 9:48:55 PM EST
[#11]
The P226 Legion SAO is the tits.
But not as good as the P210A, and I am disappoint that GD has failed you until this moment  As an admitted Hi-Power fan, I can say that either of the SIGs will have a better trigger, unless you have a 'smith do some work, like Don Williams did with this one  A .40 S&W gun that got the full package, including a hand-fitted .357 SIG barrel. It's a laser. Two others that fit the category ( sort of) - the original P210, in this case, a Swiss Army pistol  and the HK Expert (or Elite), which has a delightful single action Match trigger 
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Posted: 4/18/2021 9:49:01 PM EST
[#12]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This, TSO owner checking in. CZ 
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Posted: 4/18/2021 9:49:57 PM EST
[#13]
Quote HistoryQuoted: 226 Legion is on my short list. I'll always side with the larger pistol until we get into competition 6" guns. I've shot them and very much like them. The steel framed Sigs seem harder to find now. Especially during gunpocalypse. I was lucky to find a lightly used one for a good price. |
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Posted: 4/18/2021 9:50:39 PM EST
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: G17>G19 Plus not SAO, so you're wrong twice. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Glock 19... G17>G19 Plus not SAO, so you're wrong twice. Glock 19 is never wrong... |
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Posted: 4/18/2021 9:51:30 PM EST
[#15]
Some form of 2011 is most versatile. Aluminum frame, commander slide, etc.
BHPs carry nicely but need a lot of work to be really usable IMO. The Wilson EDC would probably be ok but a lot of people I’ve talked to never warmed up to them. SIG also makes a SAO P229. Then there’s the 92X Performance. |
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Posted: 4/18/2021 9:53:21 PM EST
[#16]
Get a new production SIG P210 and have it milled for RDS.
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Posted: 4/18/2021 10:05:10 PM EST
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Then there’s the 92X Performance. Still a DA/SA gun |
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Posted: 4/18/2021 10:06:15 PM EST
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I shoot Glocks as well, but it's just a cost/reliability/does the job thing. I really like single action handguns and can shoot them better than my Glocks. A guy at APC let me shoot his X6 from Germany I was hitting steel at 100 no problem first mag. I had not shot pistol at 100yds before that day and could not hit it with a mag from my G17. Of course with training sure it's possible but I'm fine with my G17 for defensive use within real life pistol distances. I guess I want it all and I feel a quality double stack SAO will do that. Yup, the DS SOA's are easier to shoot, no doubt. Personally I go all in on one platform so I went back to Glocks simply for the practicality. Worth noting, although I had a few Staccatos, I was mainly running an Atlas Gunworks 2011. Probably the best pistol I've ever owned, but it was $5800 plus a bunch of mag tuning, which can be a hassle. Staccatos don't really need the mag tuning, the tolerances are more forgiving.  " />
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Posted: 4/18/2021 10:08:12 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Still a DA/SA gun Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Then there’s the 92X Performance. Still a DA/SA gun Ok. You can live the #saolife with it anyway, just like the CZs. |
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Posted: 4/18/2021 10:09:05 PM EST
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: CZ Checkmate Parrot https://armazone.ch/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/https_CZ75_TSCzechmate_Parrot_2.jpg Why do I love the look of this thing so much? |
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Posted: 4/18/2021 10:09:06 PM EST
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Posted: 4/18/2021 10:13:02 PM EST
[#22]
Do the Staccato
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Posted: 4/18/2021 10:13:51 PM EST
[#23]
I'm a 1911 guy, so which ever well built 1911 fits your pocketbook and desire to own.
Although - I could do the Staccato with a little persuasion... |
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Posted: 4/18/2021 10:15:46 PM EST
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Ok. You can live the #saolife with it anyway, just like the CZs. Oh I prefer DA/SA guns, but this isn't my thread |
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Posted: 4/18/2021 10:19:04 PM EST
[#25]
+1 for an HK in single action variant.
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Posted: 4/18/2021 10:23:24 PM EST
[#26]
Staccato formerly STI.
Beats the Sig Legion P226 SAO by a wide margin. |
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Posted: 4/18/2021 10:27:34 PM EST
[#27]
STI = Sexually Transmitted Infection , Sig = shit QC but pretty aesthetics. Browning Hi Power or CZ are the only right answers. The very mention of Glock among these pistols makes me reconsider my stance on abortions.
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Posted: 4/18/2021 10:29:15 PM EST
[#28]
Staccato. P DUO if you don't mind doing some trigger work. XC of you don't wanna mess with it . The XC trigger is what every Staccato should come with but doesn't. I do my own trigger work so, no biggie. The XC is nicer but not nice enough for the premium over the P. Infinity if no fucks are given on price.
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Posted: 4/18/2021 10:31:02 PM EST
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: STI = Sexually Transmitted Infection , Sig = shit QC but pretty aesthetics. Browning Hi Power or CZ are the only right answers. The very mention of Glock among these pistols makes me reconsider my stance on abortions. I have 2 BHPs but they really need a bit of work to make them the “best.” CZ has some very nice options right out of the box, not sure anyone else even comes close in terms of value |
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Posted: 4/18/2021 10:33:41 PM EST
[#30]
I'll give you one that is out of left field. How about an M&P CORE with an Apex flat faced metal trigger added to it? I have one and it truly has the feel of a single action trigger, plus it's already setup for a red dot, and if you get the ported model the dot doesn't even bounce much inside the optic. If you're on a budget it's a lot cheaper than a staccato or legion too, even with the cost of adding the Apex trigger.
I have a lot of different handguns and this one is a ton of fun to shoot. You can mess around with the springs to get a trigger pull more competitive or carry, and you can even get a safety model if you want to carry it like a 1911. Lots of versatility and a great price, what's not to love? |
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Posted: 4/18/2021 10:35:25 PM EST
[#31]
Sig Legion, P226, 220 or 229.
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Posted: 4/18/2021 10:36:23 PM EST
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I have 2 BHPs but they really need a bit of work to make them the “best.” CZ has some very nice options right out of the box, not sure anyone else even comes close in terms of value True , only guns I regret having to get rid of were my Browning Hi Power and Les Baer 1911. The Hi Power just needs a little work to be great in my opinion. |
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Posted: 4/18/2021 10:57:03 PM EST
[#33]
I want one of the Nighthawk Hi Powers something fierce
 it may suck, but I can't see how |
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Posted: 4/18/2021 11:00:36 PM EST
[#34]
Sig p226 legion
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Posted: 4/18/2021 11:05:18 PM EST
[#35]
 Get the P DUO, I think you have to buy the RMR plate seperatly now. But my father has a Wilson EDC X9 that has had to go back to the shop for hammer follow. Wilson Combat QC is shit in my opinion and my P is most definitely a better fit gun IMHO. If you play USPSA Carry Optics I am not sure the Sao guns are "legal" if that matters to you.  The TSO is just freaking awesome but as others have said getting it red dot capable is a pain in the ass and not really a carry gun. |
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Posted: 4/18/2021 11:19:14 PM EST
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted:  
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Posted: 4/18/2021 11:28:09 PM EST
[#37]
Honestly, bro?
Within your constraints, see if you can find a SIG P229 SAO. I think you might be pleasantly surprised. |
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Posted: 4/18/2021 11:36:55 PM EST
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The X6 I shot was incredible, but I'm not sure about daily carry. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Sig P226 X-five or X-six The X6 I shot was incredible, but I'm not sure about daily carry. My X-five tactical feels like cheating at the plate rack... but I've only battle belt carried it. Its a bit much to IWB for my taste. SAO stacatto with rmr looks
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Posted: 4/18/2021 11:37:06 PM EST
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Posted: 4/18/2021 11:40:04 PM EST
[#40]
Quote HistoryAt the original prices before the export ban, sure. |
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Posted: 4/18/2021 11:42:13 PM EST
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: At the original prices before the export ban, sure. Quote HistoryQuoted: At the original prices before the export ban, sure. I was just surprised to find another one identical to mine up for sale. |
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Posted: 4/18/2021 11:43:32 PM EST
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This, TSO owner checking in. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: CZ Fuck OP’s rules This, TSO owner checking in. Yup.. 1.25lb trigger out of the box and it recoils like a .22. 
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Posted: 4/18/2021 11:49:07 PM EST
[#43]
We should have a range day Whiskers. Ill bring the sigs, a few other guns you might like to try. Perhaps we could find an indoor range with some rentals you might like too.
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Posted: 4/18/2021 11:53:43 PM EST
[#44]
45 - 1911
9 - Hi Power |
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Posted: 4/18/2021 11:53:57 PM EST
[#45]
OP
Quote HistoryIt's weird, it's small and feels dainty and I don't care for it. I hate it. You're not going to win me over. I've shot them, they're nice guns. I'm not shitting on them as firearms, I just don't like them. Quote HistoryIt's weird, it's small and feels dainty and I don't care for it. I hate it. You're not going to win me over. I've shot them, they're nice guns. I'm not shitting on them as firearms, I just don't like them. Quoted: 1911 of some type or Browning Hi Power. OWS just sent me a notice they got some hipower clones in... If the OP thinks CZs are small and dainty I imagine the HiPower would be lost in his mitts. My HiPower is my favorite handgun but I had to put aftermarket grips on it before I felt it filled my hand. Slide is a little thin IMO, but that's ok for me. Then there's the trigger to consider. |
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Posted: 4/19/2021 5:36:55 AM EST
[#46]
Quote HistoryAren't the magazines like $200 each or something crazy on top of the gun? |
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Posted: 4/19/2021 5:38:39 AM EST
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: We should have a range day Whiskers. Ill bring the sigs, a few other guns you might like to try. Perhaps we could find an indoor range with some rentals you might like too. Don't threaten me with a good time. 
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Posted: 4/19/2021 5:39:33 AM EST
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: CZ Fuck OP’s rules 4-10 Op sucks. 
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Posted: 4/19/2021 5:45:27 AM EST
[#49]
 Go find one of these. S&W 745. It like a 1911, except it works. 
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Posted: 4/19/2021 6:08:05 AM EST
[#50]
I've lusted after a Witness Elite Limited for quite some time
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