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Posted: 5/6/2020 9:36:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 13starsinax: He did not age well. There are plenty of conspiracies about him. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/303716/250px-KarlHaushofer_RudolfHess_jpg-1403895.JPG 1920 https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/303716/Rudolf_Hess_at_Nuremberg_prison_jpg-1403896.JPG 1945 
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Posted: 5/7/2020 12:09:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wtfboombrb: Can anyone make out what he's reading? Tough to read, but the spine almost looks like it says "ERNEST WEAKS" but not sure in that. The cursive title looks a lot like juggernaut but not quite. If in German it could be something entirely different. |
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Posted: 5/7/2020 7:46:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jblomenberg16: Tough to read, but the spine almost looks like it says "ERNEST WEAKS" but not sure in that. The cursive title looks a lot like juggernaut but not quite. If in German it could be something entirely different. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jblomenberg16: Originally Posted By wtfboombrb: Can anyone make out what he's reading? Tough to read, but the spine almost looks like it says "ERNEST WEAKS" but not sure in that. The cursive title looks a lot like juggernaut but not quite. If in German it could be something entirely different. Defendant Rudolf Hess reads "Jugend" by Ernest Glass in his cell at the Nuremberg prison while on trial before the International Military Tribunal. https://collections.ushmm.org/search/catalog/pa5896 |
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Posted: 5/7/2020 8:21:26 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/7/2020 9:00:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dog1: Originally Posted By jblomenberg16: Originally Posted By wtfboombrb: Can anyone make out what he's reading? Tough to read, but the spine almost looks like it says "ERNEST WEAKS" but not sure in that. The cursive title looks a lot like juggernaut but not quite. If in German it could be something entirely different. Defendant Rudolf Hess reads "Jugend" by Ernest Glass in his cell at the Nuremberg prison while on trial before the International Military Tribunal. https://collections.ushmm.org/search/catalog/pa5896 Thank you, I spent an hour searching. Translator says "Jugend" = "Youth". I can't find a thing on Glass or his book(s). |
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Posted: 5/7/2020 9:08:51 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/7/2020 9:12:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wtfboombrb: Thank you, I spent an hour searching. Translator says "Jugend" = "Youth". I can't find a thing on Glass or his book(s). You are welcome. I can't find anything on the author either |
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Posted: 5/7/2020 9:25:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wtfboombrb: Thank you, I spent an hour searching. Translator says "Jugend" = "Youth". I can't find a thing on Glass or his book(s). Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wtfboombrb: Originally Posted By Dog1: Originally Posted By jblomenberg16: Originally Posted By wtfboombrb: Can anyone make out what he's reading? Tough to read, but the spine almost looks like it says "ERNEST WEAKS" but not sure in that. The cursive title looks a lot like juggernaut but not quite. If in German it could be something entirely different. Defendant Rudolf Hess reads "Jugend" by Ernest Glass in his cell at the Nuremberg prison while on trial before the International Military Tribunal. https://collections.ushmm.org/search/catalog/pa5896 Thank you, I spent an hour searching. Translator says "Jugend" = "Youth". I can't find a thing on Glass or his book(s). You aren't going to find anything because the caption is wrong. It isn't Ernest Glass,it is Ernest Claes and the book is a Flemmish to German translation from the original title of Jeugd. |
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Posted: 5/7/2020 10:10:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By outofbattery: You aren't going to find anything because the caption is wrong. It isn't Ernest Glass,it is Ernest Claes and the book is a Flemmish to German translation from the original title of Jeugd.  Know where I can find a copy? 
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Posted: 5/7/2020 10:10:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By outofbattery: You aren't going to find anything because the caption is wrong. It isn't Ernest Glass,it is Ernest Claes and the book is a Flemmish to German translation from the original title of Jeugd. I do not see an English version. The guys wiki page is a blurt, but he did write a bunch of books. |
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Posted: 5/7/2020 10:23:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By outofbattery: You aren't going to find anything because the caption is wrong. It isn't Ernest Glass,it is Ernest Claes and the book is a Flemmish to German translation from the original title of Jeugd.     |
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Posted: 5/7/2020 10:29:42 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/7/2020 10:31:02 PM EDT
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Learn something new every day...
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Posted: 5/7/2020 10:33:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By elcope: https://images.newscientist.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/22095748/gettyimages-541489031.jpg I gaurded Hess in 85 or 86. Spandau was completely overgrown, with trees growing up thru the buildings. I saw him a couple of times while stationed in the tower on the back wall. The towers were only 8 or 10 ft off the ground as I remember, so got a good view of him shuffling on the path. He would get a couple of goose steps in, then resume shuffling. He wore a large straw hat like an old woman would wear. |
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Posted: 5/7/2020 10:48:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By johosjokers: I gaurded Hess in 85 or 86. Spandau was completely overgrown, with trees growing up thru the buildings. I saw him a couple of times while stationed in the tower on the back wall. The towers were only 8 or 10 ft off the ground as I remember, so got a good view of him shuffling on the path. He would get a couple of goose steps in, then resume shuffling. He wore a large straw hat like an old woman would wear.  That is pretty interesting. How many other prisoners were there? |
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Posted: 5/7/2020 10:57:03 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/7/2020 11:41:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: LoneWolf545]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 13starsinax: That is pretty interesting. How many other prisoners were there? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 13starsinax: Originally Posted By johosjokers: I gaurded Hess in 85 or 86. Spandau was completely overgrown, with trees growing up thru the buildings. I saw him a couple of times while stationed in the tower on the back wall. The towers were only 8 or 10 ft off the ground as I remember, so got a good view of him shuffling on the path. He would get a couple of goose steps in, then resume shuffling. He wore a large straw hat like an old woman would wear. That is pretty interesting. How many other prisoners were there? From 1966 until his death in 1986, Rudolph Hess was the only prisoner in the Spandau prison. ETA: Correction, died in 1987. Seven prisoners were initially imprisoned there, three served their full sentences, three were released early due to ill health, Hess was the only one who died there. |
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Posted: 5/8/2020 6:21:35 AM EDT
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Correct, it was 87 when he died. There was a brit engineer unit next door to the prison, and they razed the place right after.
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Posted: 5/8/2020 9:19:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jarhead13: Ok, not much action, but kinda personal from years separated. Willie Steinmann in a “trench” after being shot down by my uncle’s B24 on 8-1-43, over Ploesti. He was thrown free of his crash, the big smoke column is my uncle’s plane, nobody survived. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/175733/7EEB18AD-E46A-43B3-B848-CE70F42CE4A1_jpe-1401314.JPG I hate to be the letdowner, but that's unlikely Wilhelm Steinmann as he already was Captain/Hauptmann by the time Tidal Wave happened and the guy in the foto looks like a Leutnant/Lt. 2nd class |
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Posted: 5/8/2020 9:24:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jblomenberg16: Seeing some of the tail flashes form the German planes reminded me of this picture I took at the Imperial War Museum in London last year. I beleive it is from a BF-110. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/181534/20190330_132706_jpg-1403223.JPG Also had the nose of a Lancaster named "Old Fred" there. Anyone know of any photos of "him" during the war? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/181534/20190330_132539_jpg-1403229.JPG Iirc that was Schnaufers Bf110G's tail. |
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Posted: 5/8/2020 12:19:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gopher: I remember that aircraft. It didn't end well though.  http://www.aero-news.net/index.cfm?do=main.textpost&id=93788ac9-1b2c-4472-a5ff-1c8dc9b08249 Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gopher: Originally Posted By weaselrunner4: Back in the 90's, the Confederate air force had an he 111. It was the former president of Spain's. Converted back to its former bomber configuration. Paid to go thru it when it was at Byrd airport in Richmond va. If I remember correctly, diamond lil, the b24 was there, along with a wildcat and a ball turret demo you could get in. I remember that aircraft. It didn't end well though. http://www.aero-news.net/index.cfm?do=main.textpost&id=93788ac9-1b2c-4472-a5ff-1c8dc9b08249 So it crashed just a couple years after I saw it. Never knew that it crashed and was destroyed, And I flew along with it in the pattern at Allegheny county airport, along with a couple other warbirds and a BD-5 micro jet that were visiting the airport for the weekend. I was taking flying lessons at the time. I might have even been right behind it on the taxi-way for preflight checks and then takeoff. I know somewhere along the way and several touch and goes, the BD-5 lapped us and got in between us and the warbird bombers. The tower warned us about wake vortices from the BD-5, but never did for any of the medium bombers. I know there was B-29 FiFi there, but I don’t think it flew at that time. I know a B-25, the He-111, maybe a B-17 was up in the pattern along with the micro jet. Could’ve been a single engine or two like an SBD or Texan, and maybe an avenger. I wonder if I or my instructor had taken any pictures? That was a long time ago, and who knows what box they’d be squirreled away in. |
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Posted: 5/8/2020 12:59:18 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/8/2020 1:16:54 PM EDT
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 My grandpa, in Belgium, January 1945 |
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Posted: 5/8/2020 1:18:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 13starsinax: That is pretty interesting. How many other prisoners were there? I thought by that time he was the only one left at Spandau |
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Posted: 5/8/2020 1:42:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dog1: I thought by that time he was the only one left at Spandau Ya Hess was the only one there by then. I never saw any of the regular staff etc. It looked like there was 1 part of one of the buildings they kept up to house him. |
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Posted: 5/8/2020 1:43:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dog1: I thought by that time he was the only one left at Spandau Cool picture of your Grandpa. I remember reading that there were some non related prisoners there in the end, but I do not remember what book. |
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Posted: 5/8/2020 1:46:45 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 13starsinax]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By johosjokers: Ya Hess was the only one there by then. I never saw any of the regular staff etc. It looked like there was 1 part of one of the buildings they kept up to house him.  John Eldred (2015) On Hess/Spandau Prison https://www.abandonedspaces.com/conflict/spandau-prison.html  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/8/2020 1:53:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dog1: I thought by that time he was the only one left at Spandau Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dog1: Originally Posted By 13starsinax: That is pretty interesting. How many other prisoners were there? I thought by that time he was the only one left at Spandau From what little I still remember in Speer's book, there were a few top Nazis like Donitz and maybe Model? Some died inside, some were released. There was a controversy about how Hess died, if he got tired of living and hanged himself, or the Allies just got tired of feeding him and Epsteined him. |
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Posted: 5/8/2020 1:55:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mal_means_bad: The F-82 Twin Mustang was prototyped during WWII and worked well enough that a handful saw action in Korea. https://i2.wp.com/militaryhistorynow.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/1-North-American-F-82-Twin-Mustang.jpg F-82's were stationed at McGhee Tyson airfield for quite some time as aerial protection over Oak Ridge after the war. A local guy was an F-82 pilot then. |
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Posted: 5/8/2020 2:00:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 13starsinax]
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Posted: 5/8/2020 2:22:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wtfboombrb: Judging by his shoulder strap paired with the chevron, I think he might be a Sturmmann in the Schutzstaffel. The photographer picked him out for a reason. Those were rank insignias in the Sturmabteilung as well, though. Honestly, German rank insignias confuse me so...  Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wtfboombrb: Originally Posted By 13starsinax: Isn't the chevron on the right arm reserved only for the old guard? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/303716/1916765_1081800375177118_155815334551436-1389548.JPG Judging by his shoulder strap paired with the chevron, I think he might be a Sturmmann in the Schutzstaffel. The photographer picked him out for a reason. Those were rank insignias in the Sturmabteilung as well, though. Honestly, German rank insignias confuse me so... Most likely the negative was reversed and the photo is backwards. You can't tell by looking at the coat buttons because of the way that the coats are being worn. I don't know of any reason at all that the chevron would have been on his right sleeve. My book on German uniforms doesn't show any right sleeve chevrons. |
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Posted: 5/8/2020 3:34:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bigger_Hammer: What does the article say? That Lancaster looks much too "intact" to have come down in a town or village while flying in combat action? Take off or landing accident perhaps? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bigger_Hammer: What does the article say? That Lancaster looks much too "intact" to have come down in a town or village while flying in combat action? Take off or landing accident perhaps? One engine shot out on bombing mission to dortmund. Overshot runway coming back https://75nzsquadron.wordpress.com/2014/07/09/arthur-george-smith-mid-upper-gunner-crawford-crew-1944-1945/ Inter webs are amazing |
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Posted: 5/8/2020 6:31:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By conductor: Most likely the negative was reversed and the photo is backwards. You can't tell by looking at the coat buttons because of the way that the coats are being worn. I don't know of any reason at all that the chevron would have been on his right sleeve. My book on German uniforms doesn't show any right sleeve chevrons. The old guard were allowed to have a Chevron on that sleeve,look at Hitler's uniform. Himmler too. The old brown shirts. |
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Posted: 5/9/2020 3:02:28 PM EDT
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Banzai charge worked great against unarmed Chinese peasants. Not so well against Western troops.
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Posted: 5/9/2020 4:13:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4v50: Banzai charge worked great against unarmed Chinese peasants. Not so well against Western troops. https://66.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ma7qchJXEz1reg6u1o1_640.jpg Damn! There must have been gallons of adrenaline flowing when those guys were attacking!! |
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Posted: 5/10/2020 5:13:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 22caliberKIDD: 1st here too...Looks great. It’s funny, you can see where they originally wanted to draw the eye and eyebrow(right around the window). My guess is the cap squashed that idea  . The larger window eye would’ve looked better  Home front war pic. Appears to be late 44 based on the movies being advertised https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/321106/9D1CC239-CF92-4069-AA2A-3EF5A82DB6A5_jpe-1394764.JPG What would that block look like today? |
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Posted: 5/10/2020 5:18:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dog1: Yeah that woman was off her proverbial rocker Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dog1: Originally Posted By 13starsinax: Had to be. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goebbels_children I did not know this though. Goebbles made his wife's first husband give up rights to her son. Interesting life he lived postwar. Harald Quandt https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harald_Quandt After his death, his kids inherited a fortune. Yeah that woman was off her proverbial rocker Probably But what do you think the Red Army would’ve done to those little girls, especially if they knew who their parents were? |
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Posted: 5/10/2020 7:48:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JQ66: What would that block look like today? Something like this. The Orpheum was supposedly on the corner of 46 and Broadway. I think the building in the back with "winged victory" is still there in the picture I took from Google Street view jus tnow.  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/10/2020 9:44:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JQ66: Probably But what do you think the Red Army would’ve done to those little girls, especially if they knew who their parents were? That's true... |
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Posted: 5/10/2020 10:05:58 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/10/2020 10:53:39 AM EDT
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Salt Lake City. Pensacola class. Only American heavy cruisers with four main gun turrets. Total ten eight inch guns.
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Posted: 5/10/2020 11:49:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4v50: Salt Lake City. Pensacola class. Only American heavy cruisers with four main gun turrets. Total ten eight inch guns. http://www.usndazzle.com/Cruisers%20Pics/Heavy%20&%20Large/025C.jpg Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4v50: Salt Lake City. Pensacola class. Only American heavy cruisers with four main gun turrets. Total ten eight inch guns. http://www.usndazzle.com/Cruisers%20Pics/Heavy%20&%20Large/025C.jpg I really wish dazzle could be a thing again.  Attached FileMesserschmitt Bf 109E4 2.JG1 Ingeborg Katwijk Holland 1940-01 |
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Posted: 5/10/2020 11:51:08 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/10/2020 12:04:41 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/10/2020 12:08:08 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/10/2020 12:47:49 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/10/2020 12:51:17 PM EDT
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Beaufighter TF-X with Mustang III escort Beaufighter TF-X NE429 P6-S NZ 489 Sqn Pilot P/O E.F.G.Burrowes, Navigator F/S D.A.Young Mustang III FB123 PK-W Polish 315 Sqn(freshly delivered to the Sqn, so the 315 Sqn. checkerboard had not been painted yet) Pilot W/O Ryszard Idrian. (killed on 23.05.46 near Etah, India, while ferrying Spit XIV RN130.) Photo taken on the 30th July 1944 on return from Wing Strike Lister - Stavanger (Norway)  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/10/2020 2:13:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By luv_the_huskers: In your last picture is the man that should have been my grandfather. My grandmother was engaged to him and he went down on that mission. I have a book published years ago with that picture in it and she pointed him out. Sadly, I was young and don't remember which man she pointed to. She never told me his name and she has passed. Small world. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By luv_the_huskers: Originally Posted By jarhead13: Louis the final briefing the night before the mission. It’s the last photo taken of him, he’s circled. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/175733/B37ED39D-DA7B-468F-B89A-00917900EF50_jpe-1401351.JPG In your last picture is the man that should have been my grandfather. My grandmother was engaged to him and he went down on that mission. I have a book published years ago with that picture in it and she pointed him out. Sadly, I was young and don't remember which man she pointed to. She never told me his name and she has passed. Small world. Had that man not died in WWII, you probably never would have been. Unless grandma already had his child (or children). Think of it that way. |
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Posted: 5/10/2020 2:16:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 13starsinax: They all look pretty rough in the box. I found a picture of all of them laughing, and the MP's even got some smirks. I can not get them to load. That MP next to Goering in the picture you posted looks like he should have not trusted that fart. Goering became very close friends with one of his MP guards. Guy ended up with his watch and some other valuable things. |
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Posted: 5/10/2020 2:36:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JQ66: Probably But what do you think the Red Army would’ve done to those little girls, especially if they knew who their parents were? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JQ66: Originally Posted By Dog1: Originally Posted By 13starsinax: Had to be. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goebbels_children I did not know this though. Goebbles made his wife's first husband give up rights to her son. Interesting life he lived postwar. Harald Quandt https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harald_Quandt After his death, his kids inherited a fortune. Yeah that woman was off her proverbial rocker Probably But what do you think the Red Army would’ve done to those little girls, especially if they knew who their parents were? Unlike "Little People", the family of "Important People" tend to be valued for propaganda, hostage, monetary, intelligence or other value Magda Goebbels son, from her first marriage before Goebbels, was a Luftwaffe Pilot who survived the war, and became one of the richest industrialist in W. Germany (Via investments of his father in Varta Batteries & Electronics, and B.M.W.) She was an absolute True Believer in National Socialism and couldn't bear the thought of continuing on after Hitler & Eva Braun Killed themselves and the end of the 3rd Reich being days away... |
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