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Posted: 6/22/2022 2:56:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I encourage folks to learns some 18th century cooking techniques and corresponding recipes to suit. Its a fun and tasty hobby. There are plenty of vids on YouTube. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Crockpotting that is pretty easy. Yes it easy unless the power grid fails then you need how to cook them I encourage folks to learns some 18th century cooking techniques and corresponding recipes to suit. Its a fun and tasty hobby. There are plenty of vids on YouTube. Make ya some salt pork! Also, cooking over an open fire isn't that hard, unless you're wanting to be very precise. Mostly, throw it in a pot and let it cook all day. Don't get your coals so hot that you burn up your food. Cast iron is king. 
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Posted: 6/22/2022 3:11:22 PM EDT
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Never in the history of this country did we have a Civil War, until we had one.
Never in the history of this country did we have a Great Depression, until we had one. Never in the history of this country did we participate in a World War, until we had one. Never in the history of this country did we participate in a second World War, until we had one. What's the old adage... "The one thing we learn from history, is that we learn nothing from history, so a wise man will stockpile rice and beans and build bigger ammo forts, but the not so wise, can just sit and wait for FEMA", or something like that. 
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Posted: 6/22/2022 3:13:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ham hocks, baby. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Laughs in Southerner. Ham hocks, baby. Yessir.  I might have a few in the freezer... |
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Posted: 6/22/2022 3:14:18 PM EDT
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I don't think we will see famine in this country, but I do think things will get very expensive and difficult. Also, it doesn't matter if we are actually running out of food. It only matters if people think we are running out of food. Stores will be a horrible place to be if people can't get what they want. Think Black Friday all the time, or whenever delivery day is at the store.
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Posted: 6/22/2022 3:18:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Cost of 1 PSA rifle will set a family up with a good cushion. I'll leave it at that because GD gonna GD when it comes to prep threads.....as I can see by page one. I don't wanna see my wife or kid suffer.. And if it's buy 12$ a gallon gas to get to work or buy 12$ 2 for 1 green beans What ya gonna do. Eat that rice fort...buy gas, make money a survive... As spices. We grow our own herbs, hot chili's etc. Salt is or was cheap...and dried spices last a while. Tony Cs can be purchased in 5 gallon buckets iirc  Well said. I make sure that I have a lot of salt (kosher, canning, and table), pepper (peppercorns store well), if you have a grinder), garlic, chili powder, taco seasoning, Italian seasoning, basil, and oregano. Those are my main spices. The wife has stockpiled a good amount of canning spices and sugar. Lemon juice is pretty important for canning, if you can't find citric acid. We used lemon juice in our tomatoes last year when the CA ran out and we had a hard time finding it. And buy a freezer. Stock it with big, cheap cuts of meat. Pork shoulders (<$2/lb on sale), hams(<$2/lb on sale), beef roasts(<$4/lb on sale, but maybe not now), and whole chickens(~$1/lb on sale). Learn to slow cook and smoke your meats. With the right spices, I can flavor a hell of a lot of rice and beans with a good smoked cut of meat. It doesn't really matter if it's pork, beef, or chicken. Plus, it's excellent protein and minerals. If you do that, plus some canned veggies, your rice and beans will go a long way. Cornbread is calorie dense, and a great side with beans. Hell, it's a good side with lots of things. Cornmeal will store a good amount time with the right containers. Cornmeal, flour, an egg, and little buttermilk (or milk with lemon juice), a little sugar, and some bacon grease or oil. Good eating. |
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Posted: 6/22/2022 3:21:43 PM EDT
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Pork loin is still pretty cheap. with a few hens and a garden you can make some pretty nice fried rice dishes with that stock piled rice. What's happening globally with food, fuel and fertilizer should have everyone preparing at the very least for shortages and expensive products. It's pretty much staring us directly into the eyes. |
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Posted: 6/22/2022 3:21:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Did anyone actually STARVE during the Depression? When, in the history of the US did people have to rely on SURVIVAL caches for their meals? I lived thru the LA fires, the big earthquake, the riots and all the grocery stores and restaurants stayed open. Yes. Are you really asking this? |
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Posted: 6/22/2022 3:24:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A rice and beans "fort" is never *not* important - but how immediately critical is it? IMO not very. This. I'm going to keep enough of it that I'd get sick of eating it a few times over, but I doubt it will come down to having to do that. |
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Posted: 6/22/2022 3:25:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lol. Half the world lives on rice. And I doubt you've eaten beans for very many meals in a row. When combined with beans it makes a complete protein. OP, include wheat berries, barley, oats, peas, several kinds of beans, corn, flour of corn and wheat, yeast, dry milk, salt, pepper, masa, a grain grinder, a means of cooking if you've no power and you'll have a start. Increase canned goods purchases when at the grocery. Learn pantry rotation and cooking. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Rice is very empty of calories. Beans are much better. But, energy is needed to cool them. Lol. Half the world lives on rice. And I doubt you've eaten beans for very many meals in a row. When combined with beans it makes a complete protein. OP, include wheat berries, barley, oats, peas, several kinds of beans, corn, flour of corn and wheat, yeast, dry milk, salt, pepper, masa, a grain grinder, a means of cooking if you've no power and you'll have a start. Increase canned goods purchases when at the grocery. Learn pantry rotation and cooking. Not to mention that when you're really hungry, they're going to taste very good just how they come. |
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Posted: 6/22/2022 3:28:56 PM EDT
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I bought a bunch of both just before the plandemic bs. They've been sitting in my garage and the beans are now still hard after cooking several hours. Does anyone know how to cook them properly after being stored for awhile? Keep beans stored in a cool area,the rice is still fine.
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Posted: 6/22/2022 3:34:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Everyone I knew that lived through the depression could garden or farm and probably did. Lots of folks today wouldn’t even if they could. Completely dependent on the labor of others and supply chain. Yep, we’ve never been so dependent on so few farmers. |
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Posted: 6/22/2022 3:57:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I bought a bunch of both just before the plandemic bs. They've been sitting in my garage and the beans are now still hard after cooking several hours. Does anyone know how to cook them properly after being stored for awhile? Keep beans stored in a cool area,the rice is still fine. Dam, Son! I'm assuming that this is pinto beans or some sort of Great Northern bean: Both of these methods should have the beans in a significant amount of water, like multiple inches above the beans in the bowl. What you do is soak them overnight for best results. You'll actually see the beans get bigger from pulling in the moisture. A fast way to soften them is to put them in water, bring them to a boil for a few minutes, take them off the heat, cover, and let them sit in the hot water for an hour or better. After you do the above, drain them, add fresh water to at least an inch above the beans, salt, some oil, seasoned pork if you have some, and bring them to a boil again. Boil for 20-30 minutes, turn them down to a soft simmer, and let them cook for hours. One last thing: Always check your bulk bags of beans for small stones, dirt, and bad beans before your final cook. I've found many stones in mine over many occasions. That'll break a tooth. |
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Posted: 6/22/2022 4:02:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I bought a bunch of both just before the plandemic bs. They've been sitting in my garage and the beans are now still hard after cooking several hours. Does anyone know how to cook them properly after being stored for awhile? Keep beans stored in a cool area,the rice is still fine. Last year, or maybe the year before, we cooked and ate some beans we'd stored circa 2012. Yeah, they get harder to cook, and taste sort of dry/grainy after a few years. But they were still edible. Just not very tasty. Rotate them out every 2-5 years and I think you'd be fine. Also, if you're hungry, they'll taste fine.
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Posted: 6/22/2022 4:13:12 PM EDT
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When things got a little nutty in the early stages of the Coof pandemic we were shopping in the CDA Costco, along with about 2,000 of our fellow citizens. In the very crowded dry goods section a man was loading two, 20lb bags of rice into his cart.
His wife loudly said, "for God's sake, do you even know how to cook rice?" Him (looking grim, but determined): "We're going to need this, I'm getting it." Her: "Well you go right ahead and buy it, but I'm telling you right now you're going to eat every damn mouthful." The whole aisle busted up laughing, especially my wife. We'd been having the same argument. She shops fresh almost every day...we have this argument a lot. People had been a little testy, what with fighting over toilet paper, it was a welcome relief. I'd love to know how much rice she forced down his gullet. He may still be eating rice puddin'. |
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Posted: 6/22/2022 4:13:24 PM EDT
[#15]
Double tap
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Posted: 6/22/2022 4:14:45 PM EDT
[#16]
Love me some beans… I’ll generate enough methane to power all of Texas.
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Posted: 6/22/2022 4:16:33 PM EDT
[#17]
Rice and beans don't play a part in my survival plan for SHTF.
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Posted: 6/22/2022 4:26:11 PM EDT
[#18]
Great add to rice and beans, soups and stews.
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Posted: 6/22/2022 4:31:58 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Rice is very empty of calories. Beans are much better. But, energy is needed to cool them. not really. turn off the stove, they'll cool off on their own. just give them a little time. |
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Posted: 6/22/2022 4:32:24 PM EDT
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My wife doesn't do beans so I guess it's rice rice rice and rice with a side of rice for me.
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Posted: 6/22/2022 5:06:04 PM EDT
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Regardless of what the hippies tell you the protein isn’t as bioavailable as animal protein.
Beans and rice is not a complete protein. Plants,especially beans, don’t want to be eaten and have phytochemicals in them to inhibit or bind to essential nutritional bits. |
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Posted: 6/22/2022 5:06:23 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: My wife doesn't do beans so I guess it's rice rice rice and rice with a side of rice for me. She will when she’s hungry enough…. |
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Posted: 6/22/2022 5:08:18 PM EDT
[#23]
Not worth anything to me, I prefer beef, chicken, pork, fish..etc.
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Posted: 6/22/2022 5:11:51 PM EDT
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How do you guys store your rice and beans (and other foods, really) in a way that will keep them for long periods but also allow you to rotate through them? I’m loading up on food slowly but surely more to soften the blow of higher food prices later this year than to have a SHTF contingency plan.
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Posted: 6/22/2022 5:24:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Laughs in grandparents that lived through the Grest Depression... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Why? When in the history of the US was anyone NOT be able to get food? And you have 100,000 rounds of SS109? OK, now what? Laughs in grandparents that lived through the Grest Depression... 
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Posted: 6/22/2022 5:35:01 PM EDT
[#26]
The best time to build a fort is when it's not critical.
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Posted: 6/22/2022 5:36:32 PM EDT
[#27]
Idk OP but I went ahead and got one anyways..
rice, beans and seasoning fort built! Right next to my TP fort… just incase SHTF, I can still wipe my butt.
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Posted: 6/22/2022 5:37:28 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Dam, Son! I'm assuming that this is pinto beans or some sort of Great Northern bean: Both of these methods should have the beans in a significant amount of water, like multiple inches above the beans in the bowl. What you do is soak them overnight for best results. You'll actually see the beans get bigger from pulling in the moisture. A fast way to soften them is to put them in water, bring them to a boil for a few minutes, take them off the heat, cover, and let them sit in the hot water for an hour or better. After you do the above, drain them, add fresh water to at least an inch above the beans, salt, some oil, seasoned pork if you have some, and bring them to a boil again. Boil for 20-30 minutes, turn them down to a soft simmer, and let them cook for hours. One last thing: Always check your bulk bags of beans for small stones, dirt, and bad beans before your final cook. I've found many stones in mine over many occasions. That'll break a tooth. If the beans are old enough, they are very difficult to get tender again. Pressure cooking helps. I've read another method, but can't remember the details. Something added to the water, like baking soda, maybe?? May be able to soak in lye water, similar to how they make hominy. Never tried it, so that is purely speculation. |
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Posted: 6/22/2022 5:39:47 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Please give the doomsday scenario where you're loading mags and I'm attacking your house for food? Just jackoff prepper fantasy shit. My FIL talks about having to hold night watch over their garden during the great depression. |
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Posted: 6/22/2022 5:40:06 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: My wife doesn't do beans so I guess it's rice rice rice and rice with a side of rice for me. Gas? Not that it is any of my business. Just speaking from experience. |
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Posted: 6/22/2022 5:41:20 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: My wife doesn't do beans so I guess it's rice rice rice and rice with a side of rice for me. Refried beans for Mexican? Navy beans and ham soup? Midwest style kidney beans in chili? |
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Posted: 6/22/2022 5:41:52 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Regardless of what the hippies tell you the protein isn’t as bioavailable as animal protein. Beans and rice is not a complete protein. Plants,especially beans, don’t want to be eaten and have phytochemicals in them to inhibit or bind to essential nutritional bits. I didn't know plants were sentient. |
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Posted: 6/22/2022 5:49:36 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If the beans are old enough, they are very difficult to get tender again. Pressure cooking helps. I've read another method, but can't remember the details. Something added to the water, like baking soda, maybe?? May be able to soak in lye water, similar to how they make hominy. Never tried it, so that is purely speculation. |
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Posted: 6/22/2022 5:58:29 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes it easy unless the power grid fails then you need how to cook them Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Crockpotting that is pretty easy. Yes it easy unless the power grid fails then you need how to cook them Well, "wife won't cook" and "power grid failure" might be considered the same thing. But sounds kind of sexist to me. in a binary way. Pronoun was presumed 'she'. |
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Posted: 6/22/2022 6:00:45 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: How do you guys store your rice and beans (and other foods, really) in a way that will keep them for long periods but also allow you to rotate through them? I’m loading up on food slowly but surely more to soften the blow of higher food prices later this year than to have a SHTF contingency plan. Buy rice and beans in sealed bags, throw bag in new, clean 5-gallon bucket, add a single dessicant pack (if you must) then snap a sealing lid on the bucket. Use sharpie to mark storage date on lid. This isn't fancy but it works. As mentioned earlier, I've ate beans that were ~8 years old stored this way. Yes, they tasted bad/dry/grainy/tough. But they were still edible. If you're worried about them drying out too much, rotate them every 2-3 years. Storing a 50-pound bag of baking soda (available at feed stores as sodium bicarbonate) allows you to add a bit to the cooking water, as mentioned before by another poster, if you want that option. I've also thought about soaking them in water for a day then soaking them in oil/grease/fat before cooking. Couldn't hurt. |
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Posted: 6/22/2022 6:08:48 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't think the average American knows how to properly cook dried beans. Pressure cooker for the win. |
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Posted: 6/22/2022 6:21:57 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I encourage folks to learns some 18th century cooking techniques and corresponding recipes to suit. Its a fun and tasty hobby. There are plenty of vids on YouTube. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Crockpotting that is pretty easy. Yes it easy unless the power grid fails then you need how to cook them I encourage folks to learns some 18th century cooking techniques and corresponding recipes to suit. Its a fun and tasty hobby. There are plenty of vids on YouTube. I enjoy Townsends |
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Posted: 6/22/2022 6:25:07 PM EDT
[#38]
I need to find things that are low carb to store away.
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Posted: 6/22/2022 6:31:16 PM EDT
[#39]
There is no down side to a well stocked pantry.
Words to live by. |
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Posted: 6/22/2022 6:51:47 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I need to find things that are low carb to store away. Unless it’s specifically for a medical issue when work habits and amounts of available food are drastically shifted the additional carbs for energy are likely to be far easier burned. |
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Posted: 6/22/2022 7:13:33 PM EDT
[#41]
Quoted: We've learned the importance of ammo and tp forts, but is the hype about food shortages a concern to the average American? It seems like a pretty cheap investment, you can buy cheap and stack real deep today. Is tomorrow a concern? Yes, it's a concern, a big one actually. Let's forget Biden's "Operation: Fuck America" for a minute. The odds of another Carrington Event (look it up) are estimated to be about 0.7% a year. That's not a lot, but it is significant and means there is about a 9.2% chance of it happening over the next 20 years. Another Carrington event would... well we don't know exactly. But it would likely take down power in the US for months, maybe years in some areas. That means no fuel flows, no food gets transported, and things get really, really bad in a hurry. Then there is the possibility of all kinds of natural disasters, massive crop failures, really serious pandemics as opposed to Covid level pandemics, etc. All of these could make food scarce. So, get a bunch of beans and rice and store them in Mylar bags with oxygen absorbers, these will supposedly keep for 30 years if you keep them in a relatively cool place. (Just assume the o2 absorbers when I mention Mylar from now on.) Then store some wheat berries if you can as they will keep for 30 years too. But you will need a way to grind them into flour. Rolled oats (Oatmeal) will keep for 10 years in Mylar bags and that has some 1,700 calories a pound. I've seen bulk 10 pound boxes at Sam's for a bit under $12.00 A 5 pound bag of flour can be stored in a one gallon Mylar bag and will supposedly also keep for about 10 years. Flour is about $1.00 a pound, often a lot less depending on what you get. Sugar is fairly cheap and it will never go bad if you keep it dry and insect free. In lean times having a couple ounces of sugar a day (about 200 calories) would go a long way towards keeping you alive and active. Pasta is good and will store for a long time. And you need to make sure you have plenty of cooking oil as well. But this is also pretty cheap. Bottom line is that a good stockpile of food is just good insurance against what might happen. It's more realistic that you will need the food than you will need more than 1,000 round of ammo. |
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Posted: 6/22/2022 7:24:52 PM EDT
[#42]
Salt lots of it for seasoning and preserving doesn’t hurt either
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Posted: 6/22/2022 8:11:51 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The best time to build a fort is when it's not critical. Yep. If you wait till the Indians are shootin' at ya, it makes for a rough go. |
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Posted: 6/22/2022 8:23:35 PM EDT
[#44]
I used to work for the largest rice grower in the U.S. if you wanted rice all you had to do was ask and the owner would give you a 50 lb sack. You better like rice.
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Posted: 6/22/2022 8:23:43 PM EDT
[#45]
Well rice and beans will stretch other foods you have, or do as a meal when the humane society shelter is cleared out and the neighbors are MIA
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Posted: 6/22/2022 8:30:07 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You should really be stacking more of what you normally eat it’s ok to supplement some of that with beans and rice but don’t expect that to be your only plan I post a thread awhile back asking for ideas on food stores diversification. The only thing people suggested was buy beans and rice. I have plenty of beans and rice. I want other things also. |
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Posted: 6/22/2022 8:33:32 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Why? When in the history of the US was anyone NOT be able to get food? And you have 100,000 rounds of SS109? OK, now what? The great depression seen a lot of hungry mouths. |
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Posted: 6/22/2022 8:38:56 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Please give the doomsday scenario where you're loading mags and I'm attacking your house for food? Just jackoff prepper fantasy shit. Ignorant statement considering several in this threat basically state they will use their ammo fort to steal your food fort by force. I certainly am no prepper fucking moon bat but I’m no idiot either. Things aren’t good and are getting worse being as prepared as you can be is just smart. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: And this is who you will be defending your food supply from. Desperate starving neighbors. Please give the doomsday scenario where you're loading mags and I'm attacking your house for food? Just jackoff prepper fantasy shit. Ignorant statement considering several in this threat basically state they will use their ammo fort to steal your food fort by force. I certainly am no prepper fucking moon bat but I’m no idiot either. Things aren’t good and are getting worse being as prepared as you can be is just smart. |
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Posted: 6/22/2022 8:39:58 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Did anyone actually STARVE during the Depression? When, in the history of the US did people have to rely on SURVIVAL caches for their meals? I lived thru the LA fires, the big earthquake, the riots and all the grocery stores and restaurants stayed open. Oh imagine that. California guy knows better and knows more than the rest of us.  |
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Posted: 6/22/2022 8:42:12 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Rice is very empty of calories. Beans are much better. But, energy is needed to cool them. 
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