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Posted: 10/13/2023 12:50:52 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/13/2023 12:50:53 PM EDT
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https://t.me/ILtoday/2823
Hamas prisioner being questioned, I = interrogator T = terrorist I: What is your name? T: Muhammad Nahed Ahmad El-Arsha I: How old are you? T: 21 - 22, born in 2002. I: Where are you from? T: From Rafah ... T: Old men, men, and women, and babies, little ones, young, women, teenage girls. I: Teenage girls? What did they do to them? T: Killed them. I: What have they done with the heads? T: Cut them off. I: Who? T: Hamas. After they killed them, they cut off the heads, placed them on the ground. I: What were their plans for the abducted women? T: I'm telling you, to whore them, rape them. Hurt them and... interrogate them, whatever they feel like doing. T: They raped them, attacked them. I: Who? the babies? T: Raped them, abducted them, attacked them. Killed them. |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 12:50:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By APPARITION: Video at link
I'm seeing a pattern here. Queer kids with daddy issues and possibly a gay Islamic snuff fetish |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 12:50:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: CarmelBytheSea]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fike: WTF. You have taken this off a cliff to the absurd. I apologize for making the mistake of talking about pictures of guns shown and wanting to discuss the specifics. Once upon a time we did that on this site dedicated to firearms. Carry on with whatever the fuck it is you are doing. I’ll bow out on the subject to not further disrupt the thread. @fike deleted all of my page 366 and page 367 North Korean reply posts, won’t bug you further about North Korean small arms |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 12:50:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DASJUDEN: 6. We would destroy them conventionally while also taking losses, then the political leaders would fuck it all up with endless mission creep and no clearly defined end states. See: Iraq. That’s on a good day assuming we actually had semi-competent leadership. Instead, we have a potato and his socialist lackeys. |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 12:51:00 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ENGCPT]
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Sorry. Off topic
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Posted: 10/13/2023 12:51:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CarmelBytheSea: Triple the size of Iraq, mountainous with double the population {although many youth oppose the regime} but regardless I think OIF - Iran will happen regardless Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CarmelBytheSea: Originally Posted By Jaehaerys: Iran has plenty of experience (through proxy) with fighting Americans asymmetrically. I think that an occupation would probably be an even bigger nightmare than Iraq was, even at the worst of the sectarian violence. Triple the size of Iraq, mountainous with double the population {although many youth oppose the regime} but regardless I think OIF - Iran will happen regardless The only way actual political change is going to come about in Iran is once demographics shift against the principlists. I'm not against bombing their military infrastructure back to the stone age if need be, but I don't want to get involved in another long term occupation aimed at changing their society and political culture. That's going to have to happen organically within Iranian society. |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 12:52:32 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/13/2023 12:52:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 11boomboom: Yeah. They have a ton of experience fighting us asymmetrically in Iraq, Syria and Afghanistan to name a few places. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 11boomboom: Originally Posted By Jaehaerys: Iran has plenty of experience (through proxy) with fighting Americans asymmetrically. I think that an occupation would probably be an even bigger nightmare than Iraq was, even at the worst of the sectarian violence. Yeah. They have a ton of experience fighting us asymmetrically in Iraq, Syria and Afghanistan to name a few places. Let's see how they do in the open against a mech corps as it's driving to their capitol. |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 12:53:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brokenhorsey: I'm seeing a pattern here. Queer kids with daddy issues and possibly a gay Islamic snuff fetish Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brokenhorsey: Originally Posted By APPARITION: Video at link
I'm seeing a pattern here. Queer kids with daddy issues and possibly a gay Islamic snuff fetish I was thinking more like satan's soldiers, but that works too. |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 12:53:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Ruark]
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Quote HistoryGentlemen, I do believe we are at the brink. I hope not, but it's looking that way. A ground war with Iran would be catastrophic, for many reasons: - Iran is BIG. At least 5 times bigger than Iraq. 3 times bigger than Afghanistan. Full of empty desert and rugged desert mountain ranges. Getting military forces in place, mobile and supplied would be a stupendous task, if possible at all. The only way to get to it is through the Gulf of Oman. - Iran's population dwarves other middle eastern countries: about 90,000,000. - It has a technologically advanced air defense system - mobile and fixed, single and multiple target capable. - It has a big military; over 1 million active and reserve, with tens of millions ready to draft and chanting "death to America!" No, they can't match the U.S. by the numbers, and in general their weaponry is not first-tier, but they certainly wouldn't be pushovers. Iraq and Afghanistan would be a walk in the park compared to Iran. If they decide to roll up their sleeves and jump into this conflict, God help us. |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 12:53:26 PM EDT
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I do not believe that woman with the calf/leg injuries was killed.
Pretty sure that is Al Jazeera Carmen Joukhadar https://www.instagram.com/caghmen/?hl=en ALMA Al-SHAAB, Lebanon (AP) An Israeli shell landed in a gathering of international journalists covering clashes on the border in south Lebanon, killing one and leaving six others injured. An Associated Press photographer at the scene saw the body of the dead journalist and the six who were wounded, some of whom were rushed to hospitals in ambulances. Images from the scene showed a charred car. Qatar's Al-Jazeera TV, said two of its employees, Elie Brakhya and reporter Carmen Joukhadar, were among the wounded. The Associated Press is not naming the other outlets whose journalists were killed or injured until they make public statements on the matter. The shelling occurred during an exchange of fire along the Lebanon-Israel border between Israeli troops and members of Lebanon's militant Hezbollah group. The Lebanon-Israel border has been witnessing sporadic acts of violence since Saturday's attack by the militant Palestinian group Hamas on southern Israel. Journalists from around the world have been coming to Lebanon out of concern that war might break out between Hezbollah and Israel. |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 12:53:49 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Jaehaerys]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 11boomboom: Iraq would probably not allow us to invade Iran from their country without another fight and our troops currently there would be in severe danger. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 11boomboom: Originally Posted By MIR: Did not the US say if Hezbollah joins the fight, the US will come in...... Is there a strike group in the Persian Gulf right now..... I wonder if troops will be sent to Iraq as a staging ground to go into Iran..... One way or another---- IRAN has to be dealt with, if not, this is going to happen again, then we risk the next time it happens they may have nukes....... Non of this is looking good....... we may just be on the brink of WW3....... Iraq would probably not allow us to invade Iran from their country without another fight and our troops currently there would be in severe danger. It would probably happen anyway, but that strikes me as a great way to ensure that the Shia militias in Iraq truly go kinetic. |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 12:53:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ENGCPT: An invasion of Iran is impossible unless Iran let's us in. There are too many bridges that can be destroyed and we don't have enough bridge assets in our inventory. The possibility of paratroopers jumping in and securing some of the bridges is a very remote possibility but again, we don't have the assets to jump two divisions all at once. The build up would be too obvious and they would just blow the bridges before we got there. A ground invasion of Iran will mean a draft. War with Iran would be destroying military and oil infrastructure and then sitting back to see what happens. |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 12:54:22 PM EDT
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There’s no point in occupying countries in the Middle East. They act, we take out their power, water, telecoms, naval assets, military installations and their cultural sites. Sink tankers and transports in their harbors, bomb their manufacturing and raw material processing centers, They act up we do it all over. Outside of forward observers, we never put boots on the ground.
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Posted: 10/13/2023 12:55:12 PM EDT
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Translation: Al-Qassam Brigades fire intense barrages of rockets towards the occupied Palestinian territories
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Posted: 10/13/2023 12:55:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: _DR]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ENGCPT: An invasion of Iran is impossible unless Iran let's us in. There are too many bridges that can be destroyed and we don't have enough bridge assets in our inventory. The possibility of paratroopers jumping in and securing some of the bridges is a very remote possibility but again, we don't have the assets to jump two divisions all at once. The build up would be too obvious and they would just blow the bridges before we got there. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ENGCPT: Originally Posted By CarmelBytheSea: Originally Posted By Jaehaerys: Iran has plenty of experience (through proxy) with fighting Americans asymmetrically. I think that an occupation would probably be an even bigger nightmare than Iraq was, even at the worst of the sectarian violence. Triple the size of Iraq, mountainous with double the population {although many youth oppose the regime} but regardless I think OIF - Iran will happen regardless An invasion of Iran is impossible unless Iran let's us in. There are too many bridges that can be destroyed and we don't have enough bridge assets in our inventory. The possibility of paratroopers jumping in and securing some of the bridges is a very remote possibility but again, we don't have the assets to jump two divisions all at once. The build up would be too obvious and they would just blow the bridges before we got there. It's going to have to happen from within. Sickening that BHO worked to prevent this from happening. ETA Beat by Jaehaerys |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 12:55:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: RayFromJersey]
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Edit: nvm. that's saturday
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Posted: 10/13/2023 12:56:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prae: No kidding. It's not that easy, especially with what they are facing. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prae: Originally Posted By Logcutter: Tell me you've never been in combat without actually telling me you've never been in combat. Look at the takedown of Fallujah for an example. The idea is to shape the battlefield BEFORE you go in. No one with half a brain wants to do Russian-style zerg-rushes at an entrenched and prepared enemy. Remember also that the Israeli leadership is literally sending their own kids into combat in Gaza. "Never send a soldier into a location where you can justifiably send a bomb or artillery round instead." |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 12:57:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By The_Like_Button: There’s no point in occupying countries in the Middle East. They act, we take out their power, water, telecoms, naval assets, military installations and their cultural sites. Sink tankers and transports in their harbors, bomb their manufacturing and raw material processing centers, They act up we do it all over. Outside of forward observers, we never put boots on the ground. This. No one is outside of our reach, use the tech and let the population take control. |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 12:57:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ENGCPT: An invasion of Iran is impossible unless Iran let's us in. There are too many bridges that can be destroyed and we don't have enough bridge assets in our inventory. The possibility of paratroopers jumping in and securing some of the bridges is a very remote possibility but again, we don't have the assets to jump two divisions all at once. The build up would be too obvious and they would just blow the bridges before we got there. Agree and yet it’s still my belief OIF version Iran will still happen |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 12:58:03 PM EDT
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As the guy said on the livestream, some of those guys who are staying haven't missed a meal. |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 12:58:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By realwar: They had a camera mounted on a tall tripod. Probably looked like an ATGM being setup from far away. Not the first time, a Israeli tank smoked a camera crew some years ago for that. |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 12:58:43 PM EDT
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No Pizza for You! Ha!
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Posted: 10/13/2023 12:58:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AROKIE: Gentlemen, I do believe we are at the brink. |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 12:58:53 PM EDT
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'Hezbollah fighters waiting for orders' in Beirut. Another front is about to open up
 Israel-Hamas war: 'Hezbollah fighters waiting for orders' in Beirut |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 12:59:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tortilla-flats: ValleyGunner is right (note screen name) Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tortilla-flats: Originally Posted By Halberdier: Originally Posted By ValleyGunner: Originally Posted By xciapup: Looks a lot like South Texas. Dark skinned military age men walking up thru the desert. The only difference is we don't use tear gas on them. We give them water and a court date in 2035. South Texas is subtropical, not a desert. The border region of Texas is all desert. https://www.justice.gov/archive/ndic/pubs22/22796/images/fig2.jpg If you want to split hairs, it's semi-arid subtropical. Which in most cases equates to land which resembles a desert with some dry land vegetation, mesquite trees, Yuca, etc. Subtropical is a very broad designations with many types under it. I will say this, if you go there, you will call it a desert. I have been quite a few times. |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 1:00:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tejas1836: Thank goodness he got the camera Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tejas1836: Originally Posted By Rebel31: Other part of the video of the Reuters scene
Thank goodness he got the camera If it bleeds, it leads. |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 1:00:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AROKIE: Iran is using Hezbollah to start a war with us, we are being drawn right into there plans. Iran's leaders need to be taken out. Because Irans population does not want war, you take out the leaders the population there will do the rest. Absolutely this |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 1:00:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jaehaerys: The only way actual political change is going to come about in Iran is once demographics shift against the principlists. I'm not against bombing their military infrastructure back to the stone age if need be, but I don't want to get involved in another long term occupation aimed at changing their society and political culture. That's going to have to happen organically within Iranian society. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jaehaerys: Originally Posted By CarmelBytheSea: Originally Posted By Jaehaerys: Iran has plenty of experience (through proxy) with fighting Americans asymmetrically. I think that an occupation would probably be an even bigger nightmare than Iraq was, even at the worst of the sectarian violence. Triple the size of Iraq, mountainous with double the population {although many youth oppose the regime} but regardless I think OIF - Iran will happen regardless The only way actual political change is going to come about in Iran is once demographics shift against the principlists. I'm not against bombing their military infrastructure back to the stone age if need be, but I don't want to get involved in another long term occupation aimed at changing their society and political culture. That's going to have to happen organically within Iranian society. The best way to defeat Iran is to destabilize it from the inside while also surgically striking its key leaders and facilities and etc. pl3nty of thier young people hate the mullahs. |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 1:01:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DCV_117: I think Hezbollah is waiting for the ground ops in Gaza to begin before going full on attack in the north. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DCV_117: Originally Posted By HIPPO: posted >20 mins ago I think Hezbollah is waiting for the ground ops in Gaza to begin before going full on attack in the north. I see pinpoint Air Strikes from the Ford being executed if that occurs. |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 1:01:45 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/13/2023 1:02:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DCV_117: Guess we're going to loose most of the streams? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DCV_117: Originally Posted By HIPPO: posted ~2 mins ago Guess we're going to loose most of the streams? I mean, you can't cut off Starlink and other commercial satellite based systems unless their owners agree. |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 1:02:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By burkeva: The best way to defeat Iran is to destabilize it from the inside while also surgically striking its key leaders and facilities and etc. pl3nty of thier young people hate the mullahs. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By burkeva: Originally Posted By Jaehaerys: Originally Posted By CarmelBytheSea: Originally Posted By Jaehaerys: Iran has plenty of experience (through proxy) with fighting Americans asymmetrically. I think that an occupation would probably be an even bigger nightmare than Iraq was, even at the worst of the sectarian violence. Triple the size of Iraq, mountainous with double the population {although many youth oppose the regime} but regardless I think OIF - Iran will happen regardless The only way actual political change is going to come about in Iran is once demographics shift against the principlists. I'm not against bombing their military infrastructure back to the stone age if need be, but I don't want to get involved in another long term occupation aimed at changing their society and political culture. That's going to have to happen organically within Iranian society. The best way to defeat Iran is to destabilize it from the inside while also surgically striking its key leaders and facilities and etc. pl3nty of thier young people hate the mullahs. Agreed. |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 1:02:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jaehaerys: The only way actual political change is going to come about in Iran is once demographics shift against the principlists. I'm not against bombing their military infrastructure back to the stone age if need be, but I don't want to get involved in another long term occupation aimed at changing their society and political culture. That's going to have to happen organically within Iranian society. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jaehaerys: Originally Posted By CarmelBytheSea: Originally Posted By Jaehaerys: Iran has plenty of experience (through proxy) with fighting Americans asymmetrically. I think that an occupation would probably be an even bigger nightmare than Iraq was, even at the worst of the sectarian violence. Triple the size of Iraq, mountainous with double the population {although many youth oppose the regime} but regardless I think OIF - Iran will happen regardless The only way actual political change is going to come about in Iran is once demographics shift against the principlists. I'm not against bombing their military infrastructure back to the stone age if need be, but I don't want to get involved in another long term occupation aimed at changing their society and political culture. That's going to have to happen organically within Iranian society. |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 1:03:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By nophun: Unless I'm not understanding, he says everything they did is forbidden by their religion. They did it anyway. How many Christians that you know eat lobster, shrimp, scallops, crab, bacon, and/or pork chops? People always rationalize their way around prohibitions. |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 1:03:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rebel31: I don't see anything that says she was killed. The photographer with her was killed. His name is Issam Abdallah. Indirect fire is a bitch, don't hang out where it occurs unless you are ordered to. And even then... |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 1:03:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Nightstalker32: Does anyone know the situation on the ground now regarding the fighting? Is it still a back and forth battle with Insurgents still holding/ taking ground? Are they all in hiding and Israel is operating a punitive bombing campaign? Are civilians still being actively targeted like on day 1? It seems that the IDF has a handle on the Palestinian terrorists who infiltrated and have cleared most if not all of them out. They have had others try to sneak in but with much less success, but yes the Palestinian terrorists have been actively targeting civilian like they did on day one, just with far less success. They have moved on to their global terrorist support network and called for a day of Jihad, or if you are in BLM, a liberal college / university or Antifa, a "Day of Rage" because you are trying not to overtly admit you support terrorism. |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 1:03:57 PM EDT
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Jewish NYC councilwoman Inna Vernikov is arrested for wearing a gun on her waist while opposing pro-Palestine rally at Brooklyn College
  'I'm here at the pro-Hamas rally in Brooklyn college. There is a ton of police and we made sure the Jewish students feel safe today,' she said A New York City councilwoman has been arrested after she wore a gun on her waist while opposing a pro-Palestine rally at CUNY’s Brooklyn College. Republican Brooklyn councilwoman Inna Vernikov, who is Jewish, turned herself in to the NYPD early on Friday after her appearance at the school's Flatbush campus, where hundreds gathered to support Palestine after Hamas' attack left over 1,000 Israelis dead. Officials reportedly contacted her to inform her she was being charged with criminal possession of a weapon, The New York Post reported. Vernikov, 39, was released with a desk appearance ticket and ordered to surrender her gun, a Smith & Wesson 9 millimeter, as well as her concealed carry license, which she just obtained last month. While she had a license, it is a Class E felony to bring a gun to a protest or school grounds, which are deemed 'sensitive locations.' Continued |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 1:04:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By burkeva: Is that bakalakka dakka street? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By burkeva: Originally Posted By DCV_117:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F8VAza1XIAAapUx?format=jpg&name=large Is that bakalakka dakka street? Yes! It runs parallel to Dirka Dirka Ave. |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 1:04:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jaehaerys: It would probably happen anyway, but that strikes me as a great way to ensure that the Shia militias in Iraq truly go kinetic. Iran government met with new Iraqi government last week to press them to demand US forces completely leave Iraq |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 1:05:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By R0N: Your “facts” on ground ordnance is wrong. We have been telling all of you guys that for a while but you guys keep stick your fingers in your ears and accuse us of being Putin supporters and propagandists. Boys, boys. Don't get this thread locked. Maybe both of you could send your resumes to DK_Prof and let him decide who the SME is? |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 1:05:30 PM EDT
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Quote Historywhats that even mean? |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 1:06:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MarkNH: https://t.me/ILtoday/2824 On Monday when I arrived to Kibbutz Be'eri I was met with darkness. We entered a house of a family, two parents one one side of the living room, their two children on the other. The state we found them at.... they went through extreme abuse. In the middle stood their dining table, ruined. Those damned terrorists sat at the table and ate while the children witnessed the abuse of their parents. The images.. I don't want to elaborate on the images I saw. I couldn't believe, absolutely couldn't believe, that such a thing can happen. How can they act?.. The Nazis didn't act this way. The 20 children we saw in Be'eri, it was horrifying, absolutely horrifying, the terrorists... after they band them from behind, after they.. abused them, they piled them on top of each other and burned them. How can you do such a thing? How? It's unfathomable, unfathomable. They will reap their reward. When it is all over, they will encounter 72 demons, not 72 virgins. |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 1:06:46 PM EDT
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More leaflet drops
 Israeli forces drop thousands of flyers in Gaza Strip sky | AFP |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 1:06:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Fantomas:
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Posted: 10/13/2023 1:06:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mooreshawnm: Let's see how they do in the open against a mech corps as it's driving to their capitol. Distances would extend the timelines measure out the port to Tehran or Natanz and compare to distance for Kuwait to Baghdad. Not saying won’t get there but will take longer. Hot season gets stupid hot around mid May until November |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 1:07:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CarmelBytheSea: No carry on, I’ll bow out. I have a bad tendency to want to move on to the big picture. I’ve received that criticism is my past OERs and still haven’t learned my lesson in civilian life. @CarmelBytheSea Please stay and continue to contribute. Many of us greatly appreciate your contributions. The strategic perspective you are sharing is critical to understanding what is playing out before our very eyes. |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 1:07:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BB: whats that even mean? I was wondering also. Picture Michael Scott asking to have something explained to him like he was 5......this is me. |
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Posted: 10/13/2023 1:08:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MikeJGA: How many Christians that you know eat lobster, shrimp, scallops, crab, bacon, and/or pork chops? People always rationalize their way around prohibitions. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MikeJGA: Originally Posted By nophun: Unless I'm not understanding, he says everything they did is forbidden by their religion. They did it anyway. How many Christians that you know eat lobster, shrimp, scallops, crab, bacon, and/or pork chops? People always rationalize their way around prohibitions. Christians are not held to the kosher laws. There’s a plethora of scripture around that fact if needed. |
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